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12:33 AM
Is there an AMD equivalent of Intel's ARK? I'm trying to find some info on the virtualization capabilities of the A12-9720P
(cc @bwDraco?)
 
"Nothing here matches your search" when looking up "A12-9720P" :(
 
Bob
@BenN That's because AMD's product list absolutely stinks.
You'd have better luck with Wikipedia's list.
 
Yeah.
 
Bob
They've gotten a bit better with the Zen generation but it still feels very incomplete :\
 
12:38 AM
OK, I found something called 9800P APU?
It says "AMD virtualization | Yes"; is there a difference between AMD virtualization and normal virtualization?
 
IIRC Bristol Ridge supports AMD-V; not sure about nested paging.
@BenN Hardware-assisted virtualization. Compare Intel VT-x.
 
I'm trying to help someone who apparently has this CPU/part/thingy but an emulator says the CPU doesn't support virtualization
 
Might be disabled in the BIOS.
 
IIRC AMD-V is ~ VT-X IOMMU ~ VT-D
 
They enabled it; Task Manager says virtualization is Enabled
 
12:40 AM
could it be the emulator?
 
I'm pretty sure it's not conflicting with something else; I got a different message when I tried to use the emulator with Hyper-V enabled
 
Bob
@BenN Which emulator?
 
The Android Studio one
 
Bob
And do they have Hyper-V enabled?
 
They do not AFAIK
(since I wanted to use this emulator and keep Hyper-V available, I had to make Android Studio work with Microsoft's Android emulator, which was a real ride)
 
12:41 AM
Nested paging (second-level address translation) is needed for some virtualization software. This is called RVI on AMD systems and EPT on Intel.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I/O MMU is more in line with AMD-Vi/VT-d. Not really AMD-V/VT-x
 
If it works with Hyper-V, then you have nested paging support, because Hyper-V needs it. IOMMU (AMD-Vi or VT-d) is not required.
 
@Bob that's what I said.
tho I didn't know it was called AMD-Vi
 
Bob
@bwDraco I think SLAT is the generic name now
Or at least that's what Hyper-V likes to call it :\
 
OK, how do I look up what exact virtualization capabilities an AMD CPU has?
 
Bob
12:44 AM
@BenN CPU-Z would tell you which are enabled
Or hwinfo
or ...
 
Ah, the exact error message from the emulator is "Your CPU does not support required features (VT-x or SVM)"
 
I'll have a look at CPU-Z :)
 
@BenN SVM is another name for AMD-V.
 
Bob
@BenN I think (in theory) AMD CPUs tend to not segment themselves like that, so every CPU under one microarch should have the same support
In your case, an Excavator v2
 
12:50 AM
@BenN its worth remembering error messages often lie can be somewhat economical with the truth.
 
@Bob Microsoft calls it second-level address translation. Intel calls it Extended Page Tables. AMD calls it Rapid Virtualization Indexing. VirtualBox calls it nested paging. In all cases, page tables in the processor are extended so that a VM can effectively nest its page table inside the host OS's page table.
 
@JourneymanGeek Ah, I think I may have found the problem:
> The accelerated emulator requires one of the following on Windows or Linux:
> - Windows or Linux: Intel processor with support for Intel VT-x, Intel EM64T (Intel 64), and Execute Disable (XD) Bit functionality
 
Solution: Intel
 
Odd. No AMD-V support.
 
12:52 AM
That seems like an oversight but... does the android emulator only work on intel ?
 
I thought they used an established open-source emulator platform which supports AMD-V?
 
Apparently it works with AMD on Linux
> Linux: AMD processor with support for AMD Virtualization (AMD-V) and Supplemental Streaming SIMD Extensions 3 (SSSE3)
 
well, android runs on intel's flavour of x86...
@BenN probably cause they run it on QEMU or something ;p
 
I may have to guide this person through the suffering that is connecting Android Studio to the Visual Studio Emulator for Android
Which is really easy in theory but turns out to involve Registry editing and general sadness
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek QEMU runs on Windows though
 
12:55 AM
@Bob it does
 
Welp, thanks for the research and rubberducking everyone :)
This page also seems to say that AMD-V is only gonna fly on Linux: "AMD Virtualization (AMD-V, SVM) extensions (Linux only)"
 
It looks like a QEMU limitation.
Can't seem to find good documentation on this, though.
 
1:48 AM
So... got some new camera gear earlier today.
Picked up a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000 enthusiast compact camera and a Peak Design Everyday Messenger 15" bag.
(the latter was funded on Kickstarter FWIW, going on to become the highest funded bag ever on the crowdfunding site)
The FZ1000, despite having been released almost four years ago and nominally succeeded by the FZ2000/FZ2500, is still around, positioned as a step down from the new model.
It's a fantastic deal at this point, and Panasonic is even offering it in the US with a free extended warranty (three years) if you buy it by March 31.
This camera rivals my DSLR in complexity and feature set so I'll need quite some time learning it. It's noticeably worse in low light than my Pentax K-3 II, but far better than my old Nikon S9900. The trade-off is a much larger, DSLR-like form factor. Heck, it has a hot shoe which takes (Micro) Four Thirds flash units!
Anyone with tips?
 
go take photos ;p
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2:06 AM
:p
 
Bob
This is clearly off-topic for Movies & TV. Voting to close regardless of the baffling upvotes. — WakeDemons3 11 hours ago
@Deepak I have an explanation for that (though it's speculation, I have no evidence). It's because 'evolution' is a translation of the word used in the original Japanese games which was shinka - meaning evolution. The reason the Japanese game used the word 'shinka' is because the word for metamorphosis is hentai, which has a double meaning of 'pervert' and loans its name to a variety of sexual manga often classified as pornography, so it's clear why they'd want to avoid that word. — Pharap 5 hours ago
that's... pretty interesting
 
@GeoffreyHuntley @ToseNikolov @__apf__ "If you stare too long into the abyss the peer gets nervous and drops your route."
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2:51 AM
So... I've been on Super User for seven years.
 
:)
 
3:20 AM
...and got the camera's Wi-Fi working with the Panasonic Image App on my phone.
Also spent a lot of time customizing the buttons. This camera is clearly designed for the serious enthusiast.
 
 
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Bob
6:44 AM
"BranchScope" bleh another one
at least the Spectre software mitigations should take care of it
...for the few programs that implement them
@JourneymanGeek how's the battery?
 
Worked on testing. suddenly died. Need to reopen to fix. Not arsed yet
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...that sounds ... dangerous
 
Not on fire so not too bad
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek but will it fire later?
 
I hope so
 
Bob
6:57 AM
@JourneymanGeek wait, you hope it will catch fire? :P
is that the inner pyromaniac speaking? :P
 
Maybe?
 
Morning and Evening
 
7:18 AM
@slhck Oh, just to let you know - I undeleted the comment, but there was always a copy of it in the generated chat room.
I moved it to archive it more than anything else
 
7:47 AM
Soooooooo last night someone dumped a car in the middle of the road in the village
today into work someone has gone directly over a round about.... removing their front wheels in the process (looks like it was a police chase)
 
was it on fire?
 
it wasn't at the time @JourneymanGeek but anything is possible?
 
@JourneymanGeek Cool, thanks!
Man, I haven't been here in forever.
 
@JourneymanGeek lol
 
7:48 AM
Nope ;p
I even had to superping you
 
@JourneymanGeek Nope.
 
(commenting felt like the opposite of what I was trying to do so ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeh that would've been ironic
 
anyway, if there's anything useful ever I try to keep it in chat
 
Gotcha – seems like a good solution for the lack of a better archiving system.
 
7:50 AM
yup
and 99% of the time when I migrate to chat, that happens
Can't speak for the other mods, but I suspect its similar ;)
 
What I used to do is always keep comments that are somewhat on-topic and informative, and delete/archive the rest. But it's quite a bit of manual work.
 
How is it that some people in tech, simply don't get tech?
 
morning
 
cause they don't really love tech
@slhck deleting and recovering is easier
deleting some/close-movetochat/restore is probably the best ;p
 
8:06 AM
@JourneymanGeek lol they seem too,
Just.... they don't do things... sanely
using notepad.exe instead of notepad++
 
hm?
ah!
Cause you know its there
 
shortcuts on their desktop, to files an then they manage to save them in a different place, and mess it up
 
Never underestimate force of habit.
 
@JourneymanGeek on their OWN desktop
 
Dosen't matter
 
8:07 AM
which they have admin access to
 
I seem to be one of a small amount who looks at my own workflow and optimises
 
@djsmiley2k I do that at some jobs and not others
 
I guess this explains why the general public hate computers so much
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k I use Notepad instead of Notepad++ all the time.
 
8:07 AM
if techies can't 'get it'
 
Bob
It's nice and simple.
 
@Bob fair enough
 
Bob
Notepad++ is ... quirky.
 
do you get confused because you've got 50 open?
 
Bob
If I want something complex, VSCode does the job better.
@djsmiley2k I rarely have more then 2-3 Notepads open. Most of the time 0.
 
8:08 AM
@Bob I'm just editing switch configs, they littereally are just a text file.
@Bob then makes sense
 
Bob
It's a quick workpad, not a long-term thing.
 
I regularly have 2-3 side by side.
I also have 4-5 'scratch pads' where I just paste stuff
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k Also I hate how Notepad++ handles elevation.
 
can you imagine trying to click betwene 8-10 notepad.exe's ?
 
Bob
With Notepad I can elevate single instances.
With ++ if I elevate the whole thing gets elevated. That's nasty.
 
8:09 AM
@Bob Oh, I think that's a setting, but it's never been a problem for me
 
Bob
And also breaks future open-in-++ unless I close the elevated one.
 
as I don't need to elevate it, unless upgrading
and then I close, and reopen it
 
Bob
VSCode handles it much nicer: it elevates a background worker to do the save, and keeps the main instance unelevated.
Also, IIRC, it's a pain to open a new window in ++.
 
@Bob sounds fun
@Bob Yeah, that IS odd
tho the eaisest is right click the tab -> open in new instance
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k Alt+tab
 
8:10 AM
I just run sublime ;p
autosaves too
 
@Bob Please note, I'm not talkin about writing code in notepad++
just editing some text
@Bob but he doesn't alt tab
this is what I mean :/
 
Bob
@djsmiley2k I use VSCode all the time for "just editing some text"
usually subgit configs these days, but often xml-based configs too
 
only ever clicks the task bar icons on the farrest left one.... although they are all the same.
Also having 2 monitors (or 3)
@Bob fair enough
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek meh, vscode is like... a better sublime :P
 
What's 'VS' stand for?
 
Bob
8:12 AM
Notepad still wins in pure simplicity
 
visual studio code
 
which is MS's flavour of electron powered text editor?
 
Eitherway, we've both looked at our workflows it seems
 
its a neat little editor
a bit slow on windows but runs nicely on osx
 
Bob
8:14 AM
@djsmiley2k I used to use ++
then dropped back to pure notepad for a while cause ++ started annoying me
vscode replaced it later, kept notepad for smaller things
@JourneymanGeek kiiiiinda. but it's grown a lot bigger than atom itself, funnily enough
I think I tried brackets and atom back when they were pretty buggy
they've gotten better
 
Like now.....
 
brackets is terrible
 
a excel worksheet not working correctly ( i wrote it)
he asks me how it works
I explain 'It uses a vb script'
Just had to google for them how to enable the developer tab, to get to the vb editor
/ me wibbles
how hard is it to google 'excel not running vb'
 
8:35 AM
users, tsk!
 
8:59 AM
Sigh
he was filling it in wrong -_-;;;;
 
9:55 AM
what???
how is that even possible?
 
superuser.com/questions/1308978/… Three spam answers within an answer obviously spam setup question
 
it doesn't say bargin booze is going bust, just the owners
 
it might still be a viable business and spun off into its own entity
 
we can hope
 
10:25 AM
ugh.... GDPR.... ugh....
we cache geocoded postcodes that end users enter, would that have to be deleted too?
 
10:45 AM
@Burgi Dunno
but some people on the village facebook page, were like 'you can't put a discription of someone commiting a crime, because gdpr!!!!'
I'm like... errr that's not quite how it works
 
local groups on facebook are mental
 
yeah
but gdpr couldn't care less.
 
GDPR worries me because the fines for not complying are quite large
 
@djsmiley2k a lot of people don't get european privacy laws
 
also there is significant work needed to implement the required changes. who picks up this bill? us as the developers or our clients?
 
10:58 AM
@Burgi heheheheh everyone!
Tho, it's not my concern
I'm yet to see a good summerised version of what's involved :/
Pretty sure we're gonna be breaching in various ways for awhile
simply because employee names are on all sorts of things, even after they left.
 
Nod
but for example, in our firewall
some users are named
instead of going by the machine name
because... they do things that cause the rules only to apply to them, not the machine they are using.
Do we have to delete that?
It's not information about them, it's simply using their name.
Why is there no legal/law SE :(
(I know why, but it makes questions like this hard to ask, as SF doesn't want them).
 
11:36 AM
woah! our hosting provider just went offline
can't even call them
 
hmmm
Vodat dropped a load of stores earlier
 
Looks like I've only scratched the surface on this camera's Wi-Fi capabilities. It's actually possible to have it connect to your home Wi-Fi network and your computer can access it as a network share.
 
an hour ago their twitter account tweeted that they had just delivered easter eggs to the data centre....
 
@Burgi hahaha
 
Apologies - we are currently experiencing some network issues. Our team is investigating and we will update you as soon as we can.
 
11:50 AM
Hmmmm
Doesn't see O/T to me
 
its borderline VTC
 
'Will X work with Y?'
too localised maybe :D
 
if he rewords it to ask if the GPU can support the resolution i'll retract my vote
its too shopping focused
 
Was it you :O
 
Hmm... it looks like this operates by connecting to an SMB share and writing files to it. Very interesting.
This means it needs a computer name (yes, Astaroth worked), username and password to connect
 
11:59 AM
@djsmiley2k there's a law SE
 
Yeah I found it :O
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Q: How will GPDR effect the use of peoples names as unique identifiers?

djsmiley2kI'm a network admin at work, and in some circumstances peoples names as used as identifiers for rules, maybe for DHCP, or firewall rules to explain why a rule exists. 'Bob McBobberson needs access to X,Y,Z' Everything I've seen on GPDR says that Bob may have the right to request to have informa...

... huh
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Q: Log in local user over RDP

BowiI have a kiosk system which shows information. When I want to change its configuration, I log into it via RDP, which of course logs off the user that is shown on the kiosk monitor. When I am done editing, I usually reboot the system so that it can log in with the kiosk user automatically, but r...

I swear autologon at a old job, used to log back in aftyer you logged out
you had to hold control or something to make it 'not' autologin
 
Hell yeah. The camera's reading my network shares.
The Wi-Fi capabilities on Panasonic's cameras include sending pictures to SMB shares. How cool is that?
 
Bob
uhh
I mean
is that supposed to be new? :S
 
12:15 PM
A bit tricky due to the need to enter computer name and credentials on the camera as well as for a shared folder on your system which the camera can access.
But it actually works.
 
My camera can upload directly to google photos with some additional software ;p
 
At least you can save the setup to a favorites list so you don't need to reenter the info in the future.
 
>167
questions
Close Votes
 
This has got to be the coolest Wi-Fi feature I've seen on a camera. Write pictures straight to a network share? Wow.
 
Nice
 
12:20 PM
(it writes to the memory card first and uploads them in the background)
 
THat's the kinda feature i wish more things had
 
For security reasons...
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Q: Creating a windows account only for share access

void.pointerI'm running Windows Server 2008 R2 in a workgroup, not a domain, and I want to create a local account that is only used for allowing other computers in the same workgroup to access file shares on that server. When clients connect they will be prompted for a username/password (hopefully) and this...

So I created a new local account called "camshare" with its own password which is not allowed to log in to the desktop.
It'll be granted read/write access to the network share, but that's about it.
 
1:04 PM
...well, that took a while to sort out. The camera doesn't like it if I rename the shared folder.
Fantastic. It works.
It's actually connected via the dedicated account.
(and my system's audit logs confirm it)
Hell yeah. It's uploading images as I shoot them.
 
:)
now imagine using a laptop
being en situ
and doing that
 
> We are in touch with our dark fibre team who are assisting with both faults on each side of the country.
wtf is dark fibre?
 
Actually, you can get the camera to serve as an ad-hoc AP.
But the camera doesn't seem to want to connect this way.
 
@Burgi unused/unconnected fibre
so if someones gone through something
they'll fire up the 'spare'
which hopefully goes a diff route
 
1:19 PM
they have two breakages
 
@Burgi fibre is so cheap that they just lay it whenever they can whether or not it's in usr
 
At the same time?
 
yes
 
:O
liews
 
@iomart, United Kingdom
Delivering secure cloud services from our data centres to help businesses grow. Expert technical support for any cloud, from consultancy to full implementation.
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1:40 PM
sigh
 
Just got a @panasonic @LumixUSA FZ1000. This camera can send photos to *network shares* over Wi-Fi. I can specify a computer name and logon credentials on the camera, and it'll send pictures to a shared folder of my choice on my PC as I shoot. Wow. Just wow. #MindBlown
 
1:51 PM
i don't get how they have two breaks in the fibre at the same time...
also why they don't have a connection between manchester and nottingham?
 
2:09 PM
sigh
 
2:50 PM
@Burgi because bollocks.
or they messed up
imagine all your stuff is hosted at X
X has two links coming out of it
 
apparently its my job to monitor the cabling between the data centres...
 
they should be physically redundant, at different ends of the building etc.
According to who?
 
our MD
 
lol
you're a dev tho
 
yeah
 
2:51 PM
I don't think they understand what a dev does :D
As they seem to think you're networking, sysadmin, general IT, all rolled into one
 
not sure what she expects me to do
 
Interesting, those breaks, one around leeds?
when we lost soem stores earlier, included leeds, and around there...
 
looks like newcastle and chester to me
 
We also lost aberdeen
leciester
infact we lost loads, most re-routed right away tho
 
i think they've had a break but it hasn't registered for whatever reason and when the 2nd break occurred everything collapsed
 
2:58 PM
@Burgi very possible
or someone broke something, trying to fail it over.
 
what i am now finding interesting is i can RDP/SSH on to our boxes but web traffic is not loading
 
dns issue then?
or are you sshing to the fqdn?
 
good point
let me try that
 
well what did you ssh/rdp to? :P
 
the IPs
 
3:01 PM
if the dns is giving the same IP but it's not working then somethjign is odd
 
Update: Customers who've been affected by our outage should see their services start to resume shortly.
@djsmiley2k FQDN access is working BTW
everyone on twitter is reporting similar issues
RDP, SSH and VoIP has been restored but HTTP is still off
but only to some sites
oooh
our monitoring tool just went back to green
 
 
1 hour later…
4:16 PM
Triple camera system; main camera internally uses a 40 MP "Quad Bayer" sensor with Nokia 808 PureView-style pixel-binning.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:17 PM
@Burgi weird
 
HeLLo mY FrIeNdSsSsS!!!!!
 
good morning
TGIGF
 
Thank God it's... a GIF?
 
Good Friday :D
 
In contrast to all the other, bad Fridays?
 
5:28 PM
o.O
 
it's thursday you insenstive clod :P
 
5:56 PM
Update your Apple devices - new OS version is out w/ security updates and features.
(And then, in response to this message, only @allquixotic does anything because nobody else has an Apple device)
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I'll tell my coworker that an internet cat is telling him to update.
On second thpught, maybe not. They might think that I'm crazy.
Or they might already think that and I'd be just confirming their suspicions...
 
6:21 PM
welp that's it then @FMLCat, we'll never know ^^
But amusingly, a GM self driving car, got a ticket, while self driving
However it's a fun case of 'Human fleshmon estimates distance to be X, computer can prove it was X+y, will they go to court?'
;;
 
 
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Ave
7:55 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy cute
 
8:25 PM
sup @Ave
 
Ave
hey
sorry for not dropping by as often as before
polycule everything and school issues and elixi.re etc
 
8:44 PM
elixi.re?
 
9:28 PM
From Greek (xerion) via Arabic (al-iksr) :)
Which I'm sure answers your query... :-P
 
 
1 hour later…
Ave
10:38 PM
@djsmiley2k our image host thing
 
user226528
"Free and open-source file host"? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.
 
Ave
wdym
 
user226528
We have open-source web apps and open standards, but services cannot be open or closed.
 
user226528
NVM
 
Ave
the source code for the web app is FOSS
gl/elixire
 
user226528
10:41 PM
It is my Wikipedia background again. I see these mistakes and I want to correct them to reach pro level. I guess ten years of habit is hard to break.
 
user226528
That place changed my life.
 
user226528
I hate it.
 
user226528
I just have to get to used to the fact that chat rooms have don't have to have written-prose-quality text.
 
@allquixotic yup
 
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