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Michael Frank

00:18

I have a Seasonic. It's alright, does what it says on the box. :)

Journeyman Geek

ditto

Journeyman Geek

01:04

ok, I'm having a super strange problem 0_0

Journeyman Geek

01:18

ah I think the download box ran out of space.

Easy fix

Michael Frank

Ha, I do that all the time... Oh the download drive is full? rm -rf /mnt/Data/downloads/completed/*

If it hadn't been imported yet, it'll get picked back up again.

Journeyman Geek

I need to fix this first ;p

arrow turning up on top of the console 0_0

so clean up, see if I can get X working again, backup....

probably dosen't help I've not watched any TV in a few weeks ;p

Michael Frank

Yea, my Plex box is currently off as we shuffled the rooms around and I haven't had a chance to set it up again.

Journeyman Geek

01:40

oh well

at least if I need to rebuild, its the same fedora version and I can just copy over /home

allquixotic

03:03

@JourneymanGeek KMS or at least some kind of non-textual framebuffer is working

find the name of the service for your desktop manager and journalctl -xe it

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic managed to fix it, though there's another strange underlying issue I'll need to fix later

Ran out of hard disk space - cleaned it out a bit, rebooted and its good.

for some reason qbitorrent has issues with my external drive, and the symlink I was using broke...

allquixotic

03:24

26 C inside temp, running a game for several hours, PC has been on all weekend, case is pumping out hot air, and buttoned up, and with those extra fans I added the RAID card is stable at 78 C, which is cool enough for stable operation

don't even need that laptop impeller, though once I get the Corsair cable I will still install it

Journeyman Geek

0_0

@allquixotic that's pretty much "video card at full gaming load" temperatures ;p

Bob

03:56

my video card is at a constant 86 in overwatch :S

~80fps though at the automatic 82% render scaling

at 100% scale it's more like ~60 with some drops to ~30 when things get messy :(

that said, render scaling is much better than running at 1080p :P

bwDraco

04:16

My card hits peak VRM temperatures of about 75-80 C under the most difficult gaming loads (FFXV comes to mind). On many other games, temperatures are a bit lower even with 100% load.

(EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Elite)

rahuldottech

04:45

WHY WAS MY DECLARATION OF VIRGINITY STARRED!? STOP RUBBING IT IN MY FACE!

Journeyman Geek

05:00

Cause its something that was declared.

allquixotic

05:19

Casually Explained: Is She Into You?

►

quick answer, for all intents and purposes: No

allquixotic

05:44

Casually Explained: Critical Thinking

►

"I can't stop worrying about what other people think of me." "Don't worry, man. Nobody thinks of you." LOLOLOLOLOL

Journeyman Geek

protip. If you don't want something starred, you shouldn't say it ;)

allquixotic

!! s/p/m/g

oh okay, Cavil died again

!! s/o/ah/g

!!info

weird.

Journeyman Geek

\o/

(Bought the HAD patch - the SE patch was from the latest swag shipment.)

got a second SE T shirt, a notebook, a retractable sharpie, and a pen oh and a bunch of stickers ;)

Journeyman Geek

06:21

also, retractable sharpies are trippy

bwDraco

06:33

...and I'm at the airport. I'll be going offline in about an hour.

rahuldottech

07:20

I just bought a 20,000 mAh powerbank :)

djsmiley2k

07:44

come into work.... and everything is broken \o/

bwDraco

Onboard BR870, HKG to TPE. See you guys in about two hours.

djsmiley2k

o/

Have a good flight.

and I can't remember wtf I was going to do, just 2 minutes ago

djsmiley2k

08:03

Sooooooooo as well as Chilli Eye. I've also got Paprika hands... one of my hands has some lovely orange/red stains on it

Burgi

morning

@djsmiley2k that's your excuse and you're sticking with it? ;)

djsmiley2k

:D

I think you missed out Chilli eye yesterday

> A sum of money has been found near the canteen upstairs; if you think it belongs to you, please collect from HR.

How, can people, keep, loosing, sums, of money, in this, place.

Burgi

my dad has discovered emoji

Bob

@Burgi 😃

Burgi

08:18

@Bob that is actually a restrained usage...

djsmiley2k

🐜

:O

🌯

⛹ 🧀

Burgi

@djsmiley2k is that a crab?

djsmiley2k

An ant.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k a green cigar?

or a fajitia?

djsmiley2k

Burrito. ;D

djsmiley2k

08:47

urgh, I feel like I'm dealing with a very dumb developer here, but alas maybe there really is something

Anyone know of a linux 'remote desktop tool' that uses port 3389 instead of 5900 (vnc) which 90% of them do?

ah he might be using xrdp

[IETF Submissions - The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch)[tools.ietf.org/html/draft-camelot-holy-grenade-00)

user226528

Hi :)

user226528

Wow! Two starred posts about Rahul's ... er ... private matter. You guys defintely haven't been talking about computers.

djsmiley2k

09:02

lol

That's just @rahuldottech, the rest of us definitely talkin about computers.

IETF Submissions - The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

user226528

Wanna hear something crazy? "Trump promised me to introduce me to Miss California!"
(Of course, bear in mind that "something crazy" is not necessarily true.)

user226528

Of course, I am starting to think it might have been more fun saying "Intel is about to buy AMD" as my something-crazy-and-not-true.

djsmiley2k

10:08

HGum de dum

Andy K

10:18

morning

bertieb

o/

bwDraco

roar

This flight took off a bit later than expected - got a brief moment before we head to the long flight from TPE to JFK.

Roaming with T-Mobile ONE Plus. Texting and data are free, albeit with the latter at 256 Kbps.

djsmiley2k

wow that's really quite slow

but I guess it works for apps getting statuses etc in the background?

bwDraco

Yeah. At least I can still reach chat without it being excessively slow.

Still on the plane, taxiing into the gate.

(you can turn off airplane mode once the plane has landed and cleared the runway)

djsmiley2k

nod

ok that's weird, this store's DSL is getting hammered

bwDraco

10:32

You're lucky to not even have to pay for international roaming. It used to be extremely expensive to get data abroad, making foreign prepaid SIMs the only real option.

djsmiley2k

but no corresponding traffic on the lan

yup

bwDraco

It still costs money to make calls, though.

djsmiley2k

used to just turn my phone off when going abroad, turn it back on once we arrived back in the UK

Oh, they're connected at 56kbps

Hahhaha

Oh wait no that's the dialer interface, wtf is going on

bwDraco

While in Hong Kong, I was using a prepaid SIM from SmarTone for calls and data. Having the benefit of a dual-SIM phone, I was able to continue to use voice, SMS, and data on T-Mobile (through roaming partner Three), letting people use my usual number to reach me if needed.

...and we're getting off the plane.

djsmiley2k

Bye

Andy K

10:39

@bwDraco enjoy

djsmiley2k

Hey @AndyK

bwDraco

11:04

...and there is practically no layover due to the late first flight. Onboard BR29 from TPE to JFK. See you in about 15 hours.

djsmiley2k

23

A: How do you solder something big?

How to solder something real big:

I lol'd

user226528

11:38

I smiled

user226528

@bwDraco Hi. I was wondering if I could ask you a private question. Have you ever played Dragon Age 2?

djsmiley2k

/me wonders

Andy K

12:02

@djsmiley2k sup man?

djsmiley2k

not much, work is pretty quiet today and i'm kinda wondering what to do with myself :/

user226528

Er... what to do with yourself? Does that mean what I think it means?

rahuldottech

0

A: How can I preemptively load a website or a webpage?

This can be achieved with the help of the prefetch attribute for <link> . When these are used, the browser downloads designated documents (pages, images, etc.) the user will likely visit after the current page preemptively into the cache. The prefetch attribute This directive tells the brows...

Can anyone see anything wrong with this self-answered question?

I'm asking because in the past (as a kid) I've asked low-quality questions and I don't want to get blocked from asking any

user226528

@rahuldottech I'd remove "website or" if I were you. Your solution does not load an entire website.

rahuldottech

@FleetCommand prefetch works for websites too

As in

Yeah, okay got it

Edited

@FleetCommand added "resource" instead

user226528

12:19

Other than that, it is "web page", not "webpage"; and "web app", not "webapp".

rahuldottech

@FleetCommand seriously? okay then

FML Cat

@rahuldottech no. Not seriously.

user226528

As for your answer, linking to Can I use web page about "prefetch" wouldn't be bad.

user226528

Here:
https://caniuse.com/#feat=link-rel-prefetch

user226528

And for "preload", which is less popular at the moment:
https://caniuse.com/#feat=link-rel-preload

user226528

12:27

@rahuldottech Now, for a serious edit, change this sentence:
> "Is there any way for me to preemptively load the web page for the second stage (or the resources used by that web page) in the background the moment the user visits the first web page?"
Into this:
> Is there any way to preemptively load the second stage in the background the moment the user visits the first web page?

user226528

The "or the resources" might trip up the reader as you certainly want to do both.

FML Cat

@rahuldottech don't. He's talking rubbish as usual.

It's perfectly fine as is.

If he seriously thinks it's that bad he can edit it or suggest an edit himself.

@MichaelFrank The last time I tried to fix something in the oven it may or may not have resulted in three fire engines turning up. And/or an insurance claim for coughaccidental damagecough

Burgi

12:48

look who gets top billing in this article: arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/…

djsmiley2k

13:20

Just wait til someone here proves it using a SU answer tho

bertieb

Wasn't there a thing ([electoral] fraud case?) somewhere (my brain says Pakistan, but I could be mistake) a while back where inclusion of a font gave away the fact that the document had been retrospectively created, because the font wasn't available when it was allegedly written?

Naha

bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40571708

Journeyman Geek

yup

bertieb

or Verge: theverge.com/2017/7/12/15961354/…

Journeyman Geek

Maryam Shariff? Was even a SU question on it

bertieb

Ah, really?

Aha!

Journeyman Geek

13:23

pretty sure - but I'll need to dig

... chat logs? ;p

bertieb

> When the question was placed in front of tech experts at a question and answer website Super User, a moderator David Postill responded saying it is easy to prove that one had access to certain font before the official release date.

Journeyman Geek

ah hah!

bertieb

> "The answer to which is clearly yes, they could have had access. That is easy to prove, however, the opposite isn t … To prove a forgery you would have to prove that the forger could not have access to the font. That is well nigh impossible to prove (beyond all reasonable doubt).”

superuser.com/questions/1228731/…

(10k, I'm guessing)

Surely that one was HNQ

Journeyman Geek

i.sstatic.net/rJcmm.jpg deoneboxed cause bloody huge

bertieb

Ah, off-topic

Interesting

'ta!

DavidPostill; aka witness for the defence...

:P

djsmiley2k

13:33

@bertieb Yes and it's @DavidPostill's fault iirc

Well that's neat

shellcheck.net

Journeyman Geek

1

Q: Windows detects two monitors, but no display

I recently decided that I would connect a second monitor to my PC. I realised that my graphics card had a VGA and a DVI input and given the fact that both my monitors are equipped with VGA cables, I got myself a VGA to DVI adapter (VGA to DVI-I (Dual Link) to be more specific), however, while the...

._. zat self answer is both the saddest and most brilliant thing I have heard of

bertieb

Hah!

Fair play for following through and figuring it out

Journeyman Geek

that's a REALLY precise job of cutting those holes

but utterly pointless

bertieb

13:49

But without the holes the connector wouldn't fit!~

:P

XKCD

I understand modern autogyros are much more stable, so I've probably angered the autogyro people by impugning their safety. Once they finish building the autogyros they've been working on in their garages for 10 years, they'll come after me.

djsmiley2k

hmmmmmmm

@JourneymanGeek I'm scared of wondering how much force you'd need to excert, to get the thing to fit just by pushing it in

Journeyman Geek

actually pretty sure that would bend the pins

djsmiley2k

o_O

Uber is loosing $4 billion/yr

:O

Journeyman Geek

Very agressive expansion, funded by VCs?

they've basically gutted the taxi industry here (cry me a river)

djsmiley2k

14:08

Yeah, i'm not sure of the world wide term, but it's the 'Tesco's business model' over here

Tesco came in, and made sure by making a loss, they undercut a lot of local supermarket chains

once that was done and they collapsed, they now going after really small corner shop type stores

they want a store in every postcode.

Uber's got a problem tho. Google.

Journeyman Geek

google basically has them built into google apps

and google isn't really into the ridesharing/private hire industry

they want the tech as another product most likely

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek They want to automate everything

And I kind of agre

tho part of that is them wanting to make mone yfrom it.

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k more or less

and there's Elon

who wants to retire on mars

djsmiley2k

He wants to save us all.

Journeyman Geek

(And he might)

djsmiley2k

14:13

I hope he manages it

no one has tried to do exciting things like this for a long time relaly

(since... what, the 20's, with flying over the atlantic?)

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k and he's doing it

question is really how long's he going to have the money to do it

djsmiley2k

Nod.

Journeyman Geek

Tesla's kinda shaky IMO

djsmiley2k

it's cool

Just sell more flamethrowers

Journeyman Geek

SpaceX's kinda .... flashy, but has a fair bit of competition.

djsmiley2k

14:14

Boring Company?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k the boring company is his most.... down to earth venture.

djsmiley2k

if you can 'prove' tunnels to be ....

oh god you did.

Journeyman Geek

Its well understood technology

;)

Right under your nose ;)

While the trains he wants to run in those tunnels arn't

someone else is taking the risk on the hyperloops

djsmiley2k

Nod

but tunnels...... with robo cars

still make sense

Entirely autonomous cars, in a tunnel, is very little fire risk.

Journeyman Geek

that's what many modern metros are

vacuum maglev? Slightly exotic

djsmiley2k

14:17

too small

Journeyman Geek

but guess where there's low athmosphere pressure?

djsmiley2k

move ALL THE THINGS under the ground.

don' just move people

Journeyman Geek

heh

not a bad idea

Bore down? ;p

djsmiley2k

Next up..... Elon Musk announces the RailGunning Company.

Burgi

it sounds like the start of an asimov book

beneath the steel sky or something

Journeyman Geek

14:18

naw

he'll steal a name from sci fi

he's a great big sci fi geek.

also, he is basically getting a SSTO off the ground

Nasa's failed since the 70s to do that.

djsmiley2k

using magnets and static charges, he will 'charge up. parcels which 'FLY' down perspex tunnels below the city, allow deliveries in mere minutes!.

Journeyman Geek

lol

djsmiley2k

SSTO?

Burgi

It was in the newspaper this morning that his dad has married his step-daughter or something

Journeyman Geek

If I was rediculously rich, or had the right friends, I'd have a pnumatic mail system in my future appartment

Burgi

14:19

@djsmiley2k single stage to orbit

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k single stage to orbit

which is what the BFR is

also, sub orbital/orbital people transports

which amusingly no government could do.

because everyone's scared they'll weaponise it

djsmiley2k

I wonder if we're any closer than we were in the 90's, to actually doing a space elevator

Burgi

virgin galactic were the leaders in that until the accident with the wing deployment

djsmiley2k

@Burgi Was that the one in the desert?

Burgi

yes

rahuldottech

14:21

The SO posts didn't get a single upvote. Argh.

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi Virgin galactic was basically doing the airlaunch no?

also, isn't stratolaunch doing basically the same thing?

and er...

Orbital ATK

djsmiley2k

@rahuldottech hmmm people don't upvote stuff just because it's written well...

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech stop worrying about votes ;)

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k Well, I won't lie, a small part of me was really hoping for HNQ

Journeyman Geek

just keep at it, keep consistant. and...

(well works for me on SU and MSE)

Burgi

14:23

@rahuldottech i was waiting for the Jon Skeet answer and it was going to upvote that

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I have to, on SO. My previous posts were not well received because I was a noob back then who knew nothing, and I'm at a risk of a question ban.

Journeyman Geek

eh. You can still ask questions every 30 days anyway?

djsmiley2k

Can't you just delete them?

Journeyman Geek

deleted posts count for q and a bans

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I can? Didn't know. Which is why I waited so long before asking something

Burgi

14:25

SO has a high churn

give it a couple of days

Journeyman Geek

> If you're unable to improve your existing questions, you'll get the chance to ask one new one 6 months after your last question. If that question is positively received, you may be able to continue asking questions; if not, then the ban will be reinstated.

rahuldottech

@Burgi SU > SO/SF

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech well, our scope's simpler than SF, and we're lower traffic than SO

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Well, this better be well-received

@JourneymanGeek But the folks here are way better. Way.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech chat?

;p

Smaller community, and we actually managed to avoid a lot of the issues bigger ones have

rahuldottech

14:28

@JourneymanGeek Whatever the case. I love this site. And community.

Ben N

♥

djsmiley2k

💗

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech .... dude, just whut?

Ben N

:/

rahuldottech

Sorry, I didn't realise there was something else on the clipboard

That was the punchline of the joke, but whatever

Ruined now

Journeyman Geek

14:36

lol

People have done worse.

As long as you get why that was... ill considered.

jokerdino

14:49

yes

djsmiley2k

Wow, talk about mod activation

I didn't even see the message, must of been good

RogUE

15:11

What does this error mean: critical medium error, dev sr0, sector 16368

and this too: Buffer I/O error on dev sr0, logical block 2046, async page read

I have got a bunch of these errors when booting a Debian installation, but not very regular.

djsmiley2k

bad cd/dvd

RogUE

Then it's a relief, I thought it was the HDD.

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k self deleted, and solved with applied disappointment.

We have moderation, and sad puppy eyes, down to a science,

djsmiley2k

lol

jokerdino

@RogUE did you put in a cd/dvd?

RogUE

15:18

I just did. And it works.

jokerdino

make sure to wash your socks

djsmiley2k

@RogUE pretty sure a hdd shouldn't be coming up as /dev/sr0

if it is, that's both odd.... and worrying (maybe)

lets be sure eh?

dmesg | grep sr0 and see

And then maybe you can thank me, ask this question on SU and I can answer it, because hell yes.

RogUE

@djsmiley2k What am I looking for? There's a bunch for errors.

djsmiley2k

prior to that, it should of identified the device

RogUE

I think this is relevant : Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0

djsmiley2k

15:31

that explains why it's given it that ID

I'm wondering if a HDD ever identified itself as a cdrom accidently...

RogUE

I don't have anything name sr0 in /dev.

@djsmiley2k How to make sure it didn't?

Journeyman Geek

never seen it happen

hmm wouldn't it turn up in lsblk?

RogUE

NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk
├─sda1 8:1 0 476M 0 part /boot
├─sda2 8:2 0 150G 0 part /media/hddmount2
├─sda3 8:3 0 265.7G 0 part /media/hddmount1
├─sda4 8:4 0 1K 0 part
├─sda5 8:5 0 3.7G 0 part [SWAP]
└─sda6 8:6 0 45.9G 0 part /
sr1 11:1 1 3.1G 0 rom

djsmiley2k

you got 1 hdd, right?

RogUE

^^ output of lsblk

@djsmiley2k Yep.

djsmiley2k

15:34

then we're fine :)

it's just a dirty cd/dvd

Journeyman Geek

ah but ... its SR1 not SR0 0_0

djsmiley2k

defek

You can get partitioned cd's /dvds

tho... wierd :

ABANDON ALL HELP.

RogUE

Where did my sr0 go?????

djsmiley2k

hmmm, good question?

dmesg show anything useful in the last few lines?

RogUE

@djsmiley2k Which one? dmesg | grep sr0 ?

djsmiley2k

15:38

nah, just dmesg

Though tbh I have no idea why it'd seemingly 'change' to sr1

unless it litterally distconnected the bus and reconnected - without crashing the machine

It's not a usb cd rom is it?

RogUE

@djsmiley2k no, it is not.

Shall I include the screen-grab of dmesg?

djsmiley2k

sure

RogUE

^^ that's the last few lines.

djsmiley2k

Is the cd/dvd a non-english CD?

it looks like it's all about it needing utf8 mounting options

but nothing to wrry about as far as I can tell.

RogUE

It was a Windows 7 installation media.

But the errors are when the pc is booting, with no CD/DVD inserted.

djsmiley2k

15:51

then it's a dumb drive that thinks there's a disk when there isn't? ;/

RogUE

Whatever, as long as it is about the CD/DVD drive and not about my HDD, I consider everything fine.

djsmiley2k

yup

That Brazilian Guy

So, looks like there's no way to revert a vote whithout doing an edit!

I made a wrong vote on SO and I want to revert it, but I can't.

And they have no mod chat rooms where I can talk to a mod :(

There's meta, but... Well...

Canadian Luke

16:11

Morning all

@ThatBrazilianGuy That's expected behaviour

Don't worry about it, unless you down voted and want to upvote... Make a small edit, then upvote

That Brazilian Guy

→ 1 message moved to trash

That's really cumbersome. Besides, I don't have the reputation om the site (SO) to make an edit.

So I should
- make a pointless edit,
- have it approved,
- revert my vote,
- make a new edit to revert the edit,
- have this new edit approved.

That's the "official stack overflow sanctioned way"

Am I being a mindless ranter here?

No, that can't be it

That Brazilian Guy

16:29

Anyone here has 2K+ rep on SO?

I need to revert a downvote on a question.

jokerdino

just downvote it twice

djsmiley2k

lol

Canadian Luke

16:48

Wow, I love the star wall this morning...

3

Canadian Luke

17:00

Somewhat-SFW - youtu.be/cFAGUAl8lxE

djsmiley2k

18:58

yey

between the gypsies setting up in amazon's car park

and the undesirables housed in the village hotel

there's a mini crimewave going on

I'm just waiting for some vigilante action to happen

Canadian Luke

19:27

Anyone able to get Legacy Network Boot working on Hyper-V, on the latest Windows 10 1709? People are saying it worked on 1703 and earlier

Mahesh

I have a crazy issue I've been pulling my hairs about. In a docker entrypoint, echo $PATH shows the right path, running bash and executing the script works, but it magically can't find things in PATH when just running the container

Canadian Luke

19:40

Yep, that's above my knowledge...

Mahesh

Found the issue. Some bind mount shadowing the folders with binaries. Great. Just great.

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