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12TB? Daaaayum
But this is an enterprise hard drive. While I can see its merits in a consumer desktop, this makes for a much more expensive drive than necessary.
Then again, Seagate's prosumer-level 12TB BarraCuda Pro drive is still $500.
If I'm not mistaken, 4 TB is still going to give you the best cost per GB. Unless you need more storage density, higher-capacity drives aren't worth it and you'd probably want to add extra drives to the system.
Would SAS even work with a normal desktop motherboard?
The He12 is available in SATA.
Only the 6GB model though.
00:42
12 TB, SATA 6 Gbps.
Oh... I read the article wrong
The thing about these new helium hard drives is not merely the fact that they have high storage density. They also consume less power and generate less noise, thanks to lower air resistance in rotation. This allows up to a whopping 8 platters spinning at 7200 RPM.
Helium hard drive technology is datacenter-proven and less expensive 8 TB models are becoming common at retail.
Wait... why is the He10 almost $10k?
@MichaelFrank That's a pack of 20.
12 TB... is still very expensive and not worth it unless you need maximum storage density.
oooh, that's not some weird buffer type... D:
00:46
4 TB hard drives are pretty cheap these days.
@BenN So... I just binged all of Check Please! today at work...
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@MichaelFrank I'm not far behind- s'awesome!
01:24
@MichaelFrank whazzat?
@JourneymanGeek See the star wall
ahh webcomic ;p
02:06
@MichaelFrank is that USD???
@TamalesRancheros Not sure, but it turns out it was actually for a pack of 20 drives.
which makes more sense
woah i was scared for a moment
but it really sounds great
lol
that is a fair bit of storage...
200tb?
02:31
well samsung offers 16Tb on SSD
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10533/samsung-expands-its-pm1633a-lineup-as-1536-tb-ssd-hits-retail-for-10k
@TamalesRancheros for quite a lot of money ;p
Yeah sadly
:(
02:48
Quick question:
i have this mobo: ipisb-cu https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02980014
want to change the cpu from i3-2100 to i7-2600
but i have this psu 240W
is it possible to change it witouth having any major problem or should i change PSU or the whole PC instead!
????
03:32
errrr
Point I'd like to make
Prebuilt PCs are a bit... odd.
Lowest bidder and all that
but shouldn't really be that much of an issue?
but if its a standard ATX setup, eh, sure why not? and swapping the PSU should be cheapish, and probably worth doing later anyway.
I probably shouldn't find this funny but...
(hiding that away cause... er. It actually is a little annoying?
roar
so, I have a pair of headphones and the audio jack gives a slight shock if I touch it, I accidentally put it in a USB port then windows gave me a message saying this device has exceeded its power limits and has been disconnected or something
> this device has exceeded its power limits
Looks like you shorted the USB port, VBUS to ground.
yeah
04:28
oh.
oh. my. god.
pugetsystems.com/labs/support-software/… I THINK THIS ANSWERS THAT QUESTION
if I could just find it
> the audio jack gives a slight shock if I touch it
.... Its already in an answer
oops
Make sure the system's properly grounded. If you're not sure, many surge suppressors have an indicator light that tells you if there's a problem with your building's wiring.
hmm the surge light is off on my surge protector
04:33
@CoderCat Replace it.
right
I replaced one recently when I realized that I was risking a brand-new, almost $4,000 custom desktop with inadequate protection.
MEOW!!!
hah
errr...
My socket's PROBABLY overloaded lol
(curious? type Astaroth in the chat search box.)
04:44
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A: Screen stuck in black and white

user802539I just had the same problem and it took me awhile to figure it out. To fix it, turn on the color filter under "color and high contract", or push Windows + Ctrl + C.

Apparently there's other settings too
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@bwDraco most "surge protectors" ... don't do much
@Bob Well, I replaced a generic with an APC SurgeArrest.
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05:08
@bwDraco I'll assume that's a decent one :P
still favour a full UPS though
especially because surge protectors do nothing for brownouts
 
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> C:\Users\mfra1>cd e:
E:\

C:\Users\mfra1>cd d:
D:\

C:\Users\mfra1>
Umm...
CMD y u no change drive??
Oh... right... just tell it the drive letter.
hurr
@bwDraco ehh. Economics works all three ways.
What people are willing to pay, what companies are willing to spend (and pay) to make these, and what companies think is the right price to charge
Revised wording a bit:
"If we want developers and publishers to not engage in predatory monetization practices, we need to be ready to accept a higher entry price for premium gaming experiences." http://bwdraco.blogspot.com/2017/12/60-is-not-enough-problem-with-video.html #gaming #lootboxes #microtransactions
> I don't like loot boxes. I don't like microtransactions. But something has to give when $100m+ budgets are the norm. When you look at all the facts, it becomes evident that a $60 base price is just not enough to cover the costs of making a modern AAA video game. If we want developers and publishers to not engage in predatory monetization practices, we need to be ready to accept a higher entry price for premium gaming experiences.
@bwDraco Its worth looking at the studios that do this the most cough EA cough
A lot of studios also take a longer term view - while they do franchises, they tend to release games over a longer period, (like EA) or after an initial full price sale, they do discounts so they make back money over a longer period.
07:23
It's a really, really hard problem.
Oct 17 at 1:27, by bwDraco
In a world where consumer spending power is limited and AAA video games are costing more than ever to make, how do you make enough money to break even, let alone turn a profit? Video game monetization is a Hard Problem™.
@bwDraco ehh. You're quoting yourself.
That's... kinda the point.
@bwDraco its worth remembering a lot of costs are lower. And even good 3d artists get paid less than you think.
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@MichaelFrank cause you need to use cd /d
I already mentioned this before, and I'm trying not to turn this into a monologue.
Most of them wander around from company to company working on projects.
I mentioned EA specifically for a reason - their model's basically "Buy up popular franchises, and release games on a steady stream" - and they're kinda super big on these
@JourneymanGeek kotaku.com/… (referenced in my blog post)
> because most game developers work on salaries, it’s almost always unpaid
see, that's wrong. So, where's the money going?
And ... haven't we had this conversation before? ;p
@JourneymanGeek The answer may surprise you:
> Precisely because video games are more expensive than ever to make, the risk of losing massive amounts of money due to a game commercially failing has never been greater.
ehh
that's true of any business.
cry me a river, cause I've worked VFX. I know exactly how the dynamic works.
07:38
> Patrick Walker, VP of insight and analytics at the video game industry research firm EEDAR, estimates that a AAA game in 2016 costs anywhere between $50 to $200 million. He said the biggest hits in this space can make up to a billion dollars per game, but that overall AAA game revenues haven't kept pace with the cost of development. The margins are getting smaller, which is why Walker thinks that investment in AAA games will eventually crash or flatline.
No matter how you look at it, I don't see much of a way out of this economic dilemma.
Smart marketing and consumer education can help consumers accept a higher base price. That's the most I can suggest.
Morning all
Advertising
@djsmiley2k Companies run the math to determine how best to advertise a game. Skimping on marketing generally isn't the best idea.
then they best get outta gaming quick
The fact is, in any business, you have to spend money to make money.
07:57
(yesterday morning. + new camera lol)
nice view of the docks
its going to be the new waterfront in a few years ;)
I should take a sunset but the conditions haven't been that great.
(obligatory dog photo)
also, amusingly it runs a android fork ;p
I see no dog.
@JourneymanGeek Is that one of those 'few years' which it's been that way for the last 20?
@djsmiley2k oh like housing and rich people
@JourneymanGeek ah so no more view?
@JourneymanGeek cutie
08:03
@djsmiley2k different view, if they don't decide to redevelop
mine's an old, oddly low density neighbourhood
> While the Meteor-M launched last month from the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Far East, it was reportedly programmed with take-off coordinates for the Baikonur cosmodrome, which is located in southern Kazakhstan. "The rocket was really programmed as if it was taking off from Baikonur," Rogozin said. "They didn't get the coordinates right."
that's a rather huge whoops?
ooh, I remember this ;p
much like mixing imperial US customary and metric, or install a piece upside down or...
its rocket science!
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@JourneymanGeek I got a few nice sunset photos yesterday evening ... sadly, didn't bring the good camera :P
;p
I actually have no idea where my old P&S is
I've been using my phone mostly recently
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08:15
@JourneymanGeek yea, those were phone photos
one sec, I'll upload some
ooo new kernels
ooh
that's pretty nice ;p
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really wished I brought a proper camera along :P
still some nice shots.
08:22
;p
I need to learn to use mine properly lol
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chucked the lot up here => onedrive.live.com/…
played around a bit with exposure settings but a phone sensor, even the better ones, really can't get enough range :\
@JourneymanGeek start with auto, and just tweak things slowly :P
@JourneymanGeek also, probably the most important thing is focus
Lol that is what I'm doing
That I can do.
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@JourneymanGeek if you're using AF, look at the metering modes. matrix, spot, centre-weighted
then you can pick focus (and exposure) by half-pressing the shutter with, say, spot metering at your preferred focus point and and then full-press on what you actually want to photograph :P
but I suppose that's more useful for close-up photos :P
@JourneymanGeek also we need more photos of Ash :D
08:38
@Bob this also let's me tap to focus.
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oh, nice
Lol. Been posting those in the pets chatroom cause people nag me otherwise
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...there's a pets chatroom?
Yup
The litter box
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@JourneymanGeek even tap focus follows the metering settings usually
08:52
ya, but it feels less natural than half pressing
 
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beautiful
tho, i feel like it needs some speaker fabric to hide the buttons.
10:49
lol
an echo case?
well less the buttons than... well the thing
hmmm yeah.
I just see the buttons as really jarring
whereas seeing a black 'box' behind the speaker grill doesn't bother me
and I'm not exactly an expert but the grills look a bit...
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hm
I need to flag 6 more posts :P
0_0
why?
badge? ;p
Could do the comment flagging trick some folks do
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11:15
@JourneymanGeek ... o.O
@Bob apparently some folk use sede or something to find comments like "thank you"
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I'd much rather do it properly :P
and not just spam the mods
;p
in theory you could also catch spam off smokey
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but that would lessen the sense of pride and accomplishment :P
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11:22
@JourneymanGeek that sounds like a disease :P
11:46
@Bob mate mate mate mate
@jokerdino Mike!
12:01
Dave. Dave? DAVE!
12:15
Enna Mike!
12:39
Miiiiiiiiikeeeee!
@djsmiley2k Dave elllai. Only mike
12:50
(mental note. If we gave anything like many memes of meta, to purposely not include mike there to confuse people)
13:15
We got snow \o/
Cue confusion as people go "what is this white stuff falling from the sky?!"
(we rarely see snow, stuff that lies is rarer still)
@bertieb never trust talking snow
@JourneymanGeek You mean like
?
:-P
@bertieb Send it south!
that was fast :P
where r u again @bertieb
@djsmiley2k North of the wall :P
(Glasgow)
13:26
We got floodin
@djsmiley2k Eep :-/ That's decidedly less fun than snow
lol
doesn't come near me tho
that's a town near here
Ah right, fair enough
Never really had to deal with flooding here, in the sense of how badly it can affect some places
imgur broked for anyone else?
i wanna upload mah house.
@djsmiley2k I had to try twice to get the snow photo to upload
Wasn't sure if it exceeded size limits initially though shrug
13:33
i've tried 3 times already
failed 2 create post.
On Imgur itself or the channel uploader dealie here?
on imgur itself
i'll try the thing here
I'm the red lego brick
Nice area?
(closest I've been is the M42 (?) I think :P)
@JourneymanGeek Happy New Years, I won’t be back until after the new year, had it with this community until 2018. Being told to take a hike yet again is extremely frustrating!
@Ramhound err again?
I might have missed that
13:45
@bertieb the village? yup, tho crime is rising and nothing seems to get done about it :/
@djsmiley2k :(
@JourneymanGeek
nod
@djsmiley2k Ah, that sucks :-/ Bored teens? The villages south of the river here had problems with such things escalating to gang violence a while back, but I'm not sure if they still do
nah
I think it's people driving over from brum, easy get away
Also council is housing 'People with issues' in the hotels in the village
which is stupid for so many reasons, but alas.
Oh right
13:51
ah brummies
14:04
@JourneymanGeek lol
yes them
(then again, as far as the UK goes, bristol's "my" city, and Its primarily famous for having two crappy football teams, and being very strange)
Bristol is pretty awesome
been a few times
Like wut.
^^ banksy
I don't think that big ball was around when I was there
Banksy!
^^ in Bristol Zoo
And last one...
photos.app.goo.gl/QOZDkew7snOAk9FT2 if you wanna see the album.
@bertieb looking out my window, it's 5C and all the snow has finally gone
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14:35
o.O
Xiaomi makes ... shoes?
smart shoes?
@djsmiley2k Still snow here :D
@JourneymanGeek have you UVed the hat list yet?
@David 0_0
whyyy?
Its a CW ;p
@JourneymanGeek Yes its a CW, thus begging for votes is OK. "Its for the hat"
my last hat.
14:48
ah ok
done
thanks. only 16 more to go (an impossible number)
Ah done
arn't going to have much luck asking people one by one.
;p
@JourneymanGeek no, but you have a better idea?
only 15 left :P
14:52
lol
nothing on the wrong side of ethical ;p
Might mention on TL? ;p
@JourneymanGeek I could.
I mean, if you were a regular here, I'd pin it lol
@JourneymanGeek but this is the problem with going around as asking for votes, it just got DVed
ah lol
that is a problem!
15:12
what are the microsoft feature requests that are pinned?
(I dont have win 10)
errr
Not sure whether to point this one @FMLCat or close it superuser.com/questions/1276544/…
Thank you !!!
have a nice day! well heres is like 9:20am hahaha
15:41
I'm following a course where the mentor downloads from the Windows Evaluations the Windows 8.1 Enterprise. However, I don't find it anymore (he did the videos two years ago). I found Microsoft Enterprise 10 though. Do you think the version could affect following along him in the course if I take 10 instead of 8.1? Or do you know how I could find this version?
is this what you are looking for?
https://technet.microsoft.com/es-es/windows/windows-8.aspx
i saw you are from venezuela so i think spanish its not a problem! ;)
@PichiWuana depends what the course is on
@TamalesRancheros Yep. But when I press to download it sends me to a main site
@djsmiley2k CEH lol
16:01
not sure what that is
16:38
Maybe this one
https://www.itechtics.com/download-windows-8-1-enterprise-offline-installers/
tried the x86 English download and its working fine
16:53
@bertieb @MichaelFrank Hehe, I powered through all of it on Wednesday when one of my IRL friends recommended it to me
At that time the currently-last episode wasn't up so cliffhanger!
And now it's even more suspenseful D:
Alas, I'm pretty sure it only updates on alternate months (albeit with multiple episodes in each updateful month), so we have a long wait :/
17:09
@JourneymanGeek Don’t worry about it. Going through some stuff best I stay away.
17:27
@TamalesRancheros thanks!
@PichiWuana Your welcome! :D
Every 4 years, except for years that divide by 400
Or is it 100?
Nevermind
There is a leap year every year whose number is perfectly divisible by four - except for years which are both divisible by 100 and not divisible by 400
17:46
o_O
that hurts my brain
So 2100 will not be a leap year
But 2096 and 2104 will be, as will 2400
any more leap seconds coming up?
I just only want the apocalipse to happen soon...
or more parties so i can eat more!
@djsmiley2k Leap seconds every year!
!!wiki leap seconds
A leap second is a one-second adjustment that is occasionally applied to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) in order to keep its time of day close to the mean solar time, or UT1. Without such a correction, time reckoned by Earth's rotation drifts away from atomic time because of irregularities in the Earth's rate of rotation. Since this system of correction was implemented in 1972, 27 leap seconds have been inserted, the most recent on December 31, 2016 at 23:59:60 UTC. The UTC time standard, which is widely used for international timekeeping and as the reference for civil time in most countries...
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for everyone!
18:03
sysadmins hate it
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18:43
hi
Hi!
Hello!!! :D
> tl;dr Dispute of $1/$2 bet between CoD leads to death of another person due to 'swatting'
18:52
:/
police and their guns...
CoD?
Yes Call of Duty...
:/
how are swat teams in the US not clued up to this yet
i think they dont know or dont care...
ill go for the 2nd one
nod
because, in any situation, you can simply cut the power then go 'show yourself at the window with your arms up'
if they don't.... then rush in all guns blazing
@djsmiley2k I guess they felt they had to treat it as a real situation- had been reported as hostage situation with on person dead already
18:54
#
@bertieb well then they succeeded in increasing the dead count by 100%!
@djsmiley2k Yeah
It was one person who had an itchy trigger finger
I mean I get that
yup
it's been tried in the UK i believe
but no ones ever been shot
hell, we don't even shoot people waving knives about.
Also lets say I'm a terrorist
i call up the police
that house over the road?
yeah, there's a shooting going on there
There was another case in DC metro area (or Virginia?) I think, an orthodontist was lured by an undercover cop into making increasing bets of sports teams until there was enough to make an arrest
swat team turn up, surround house etc
1. i blow the house up
2. i come out and shoot any survivors
(out of the house opposite)
Cops surround house, ask orthodonist to come out, he does, someone's trigger finger goes, he dies
@djsmiley2k Careful now, GCHQ might be listening :P
18:57
that feels far different, sadly samr outcome
now imagine 4-5 of those at once....
(It was apparently 2006, felt more recent than that)
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