Root Access

Bob

00:02

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

I thought its usually a double header at least

and a good many PCs I've owned have had 6-8

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it supports two ports, but it's a single header

fairly typical

one 2.0 header, one 3.0 header, one 3.1 header

@JourneymanGeek ...6? 6 headers? I'm not talking the ports on the back, I'm talking the pins on the mobo

bwDraco

One USB 2.0 header, two USB 3.0 headers, one proprietary USB 3.1 connector.

Journeyman Geek

I'm talking on the mobo

bwDraco

Yes, that's what's on the C6E.

Journeyman Geek

00:11

my case has 4 usb 2.0 front ports, and 1 USB 3,0 port... with a USB type A connector ._.

bwDraco

The case only needs one USB 3.0 header.

Bob

01:46

foo

2

bwDraco

@Bob roar

Michael Frank

Anyone got any thoughts on the Huawei P10 or P10 lite?

Looking at a new phone and I could get either of these on favourable terms...

Michael Frank

02:31

ha... one of my users just figured out why we prefer to issues wired keyboards and mice.

Brand new Microsoft KB+M... Not cheap... Broken receiver... now completely useless.

allquixotic

02:45

@Bob ooF

Bob

@MichaelFrank that's terrible reasoning

I mean, any number of parts in wired equipment can break just like the receiver

Michael Frank

That is true, but the wired KB+M combos we buy are nowhere near as expensive as the wireless kits.

Journeyman Geek

03:05

@allquixotic ofo

Michael Frank

°°Ɉ

Journeyman Geek

03:27

@MichaelFrank @DavidPostill at work emoji?

Bob

Ben N

Ow

Michael Frank

wtf

Bob

03:48

just google dev docs things

Bob

04:14

audio shenanigans

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Q: Will a media player running both audio & video through the HDMI port be heard on USB soundcard?

I was very impressed by an Arduino compatible MCU (Teensy 3.2) that can do some DSP which the user configures using a graphical editor. But my only option to have digital inputs is to use a Windows PC as USB host. The audio I want to process comes from an HDMI extractor's Toslink output. My goal ...

Bob

06:35

> Quite quickly, Theo de Raadt replied and critiqued the tentative disclosure deadline: “In the open source world, if a person writes a diff and has to sit on it for a month, that is very discouraging”.

> To avoid this problem in the future, OpenBSD will now receive vulnerability notifications closer to the end of an embargo.

Heh, I suppose that'll make them happier that they don't have to sit on the diffs? :P

Journeyman Geek

wait. what?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The krack thing

Journeyman Geek

no no

Bob

OpenBSD patched a month and a half early

Journeyman Geek

I mean, not wanting to know because "we need to fix it NAO"

Bob

06:38

@JourneymanGeek it was more "if you're going to be unhappy about having to keep it secret, we just won't tell you the secret"

Journeyman Geek

ahh ya

Bob

especially a big one like this

the number of vendors involved is probably massive

hm, apparently MS also went a bit early last week

Boris_yo

Wow...

Bob

> EXTREMELY DANGEROUS MAGNET

*holds in hand*

Journeyman Geek

It takes two to mangle.

Boris_yo

06:40

Must be extremely dangerous when in close proximity to same magnet or metal.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek at that scale the second could be halfway across the room

Journeyman Geek

@Bob for more fun, modern coins are made of steel

djsmiley2k

07:26

yawen

@bwDraco wow double highlights

my only advice being - take your time

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k that's a bit of a given

I'd say "get a screwdriver you like" but @bwDraco does not feel like the sort of guy who'd use a shitty screwdriver ;)

djsmiley2k

+25 overnight from the powerline adaptor question woo

Journeyman Geek

sweet

djsmiley2k

also yeah I mean I've not built a PC in years now :/

and each generation seems to have interestingquirks and such

Journeyman Geek

I'm at like 6ish years right now

Burgi

08:03

morning

@JourneymanGeek i agree with this

i'll be honest i use the first 'driver that fits

Journeyman Geek

personally I have one of these blackanddecker.com/products/power-tools/portable-power-tools/… (almost)

and a ifixit pro tech toolkit I got as a present, which works awesome.

Burgi

i'm guessing thats because you can't get the torque with paws when using a manual one

Journeyman Geek

but that's more for the odd stuff

@Burgi :)

its also easier.

It also has the advantage of being one tool in a big red box, so Its easier to find when I need it

Bob

09:22

3

Journeyman Geek

09:40

lol

djsmiley2k

10:10

hmmm chrome won't run flash because out of date

but won't update flash because newest version ?!

Adobe Flash Player - Version: 26.0.0.151

djsmiley2k

10:21

Lorry topples onto house.... twice!

twice....

user226528

10:48

Hey, guys.

user226528

I just overheard one of our managers was trying to help his daughter on Skype. He had clearly lost patience. The daughter said "I'm in Safe mode" and the manager retorted "well, start in unsafe mode!"

Burgi

@djsmiley2k you'd just move...

@FleetCommand heh

djsmiley2k

@Burgi lol nod

or maybe the pay off is worth it?

I know of a woman, who had a concrete block flatten her house

theregister.co.uk/2017/10/18/europol_cgnat

user226528

You really shouldn't read The Register. Its nonsense is toxic.

user226528

@Bob That's exactly what we use.

user226528

11:02

I once order 200 meters of CAT-6 cable and advised the logistics people to buy something with good quality.

user226528

What do you think they bought?

user226528

200 meters of SF/FTP cables!

djsmiley2k

@FleetCommand that goes for about 99.9% of the web.

user226528

Disagree.

user226528

Nonsense maybe, toxic? No. Not 99.9%.

user226528

11:06

LOL. One of the coworkers just said there is no way to classify p*** as nonsense.

djsmiley2k

Ahahaha

it's nonsense to a non-human

user226528

In Transformers movie, Optimus said he learned human language from the web. Just imagine what he might have seen.

William Mariager

Afternoon everyone

user226528

o/

William Mariager

Anyone know if it's possible map a network destination to a folder rather than a drive on Windows? I have multiple network destinations I'd like to have as folders in a single folder.

It should be completely transparent to applications, as I'm trying to trick Adobe InDesign to actually work nicely. :P

user226528

11:21

Good luck with that!

William Mariager

It's quite the challenge. I don't know who at Adobe though absolute paths were a good idea, but they need a beating.

You can't move an InDesign document around with killing all links to files, even if the files are in the same folder as the document.

Bob

@FleetCommand ouch, that's gonna be pricey

user226528

@Bob And difficult to set up. My tools weren't enough. Do you know how many times I threw my hands in desperation?

William Mariager

52

Q: How do I mount a network drive to a folder?

Does anyone know of a third party (or even windows native) solution to this simple problem? I want to map an internal network share on our windows server to a folder on each of the client machines in the network. I don't want to to use drive letters; I would just like to set up a folder on my C ...

windows network-shares shared-folders

Looks like what I need.

All about finding the right words to search for.

Bob

@FleetCommand heh, normal (UTP) cat6 is bad enough

user226528

11:27

@WilliamMariager InDesign is like Microsoft Word, isn't it?

William Mariager

More like Microsoft Publisher back when they had that.

user226528

Who had what?

Other Cat

!!caat

Need

ChatBot John Cavil

Other Cat

Caat

William Mariager

11:29

@FleetCommand When Microsoft had Publisher.

user226528

Don't they now?

user226528

products.office.com/en-US/publisher

William Mariager

Oh, it looks like they do :P Who'd have thought.

I'm only dealing with InDesign since it's more or less the industry standard.

Well, more or less the industry monopoly ...

I'd be happy to not deal with it.

user226528

My experience with Adobe products is that they are utterly awful when it comes languages other than English.

William Mariager

My experience is that they're utterly awful.

So many weird things to deal with.

user226528

11:32

The only Adobe product worth buying, IMHO, is Photoshop because that's peerless.

William Mariager

But, my clients use InDesign so I don't have much choice.

user226528

I tried InDesign back in the time when we had to pay a hand and a leg for it.

William Mariager

I can guarantee you, it hasn't improved.

They added this clever feature called "Shared Libraries".

Except, they made it stupid by ensuring it can't be open by more than one user at once ...

So much for shared.

djsmiley2k

11:47

;D

user226528

I remember a long time ago, we wanted to make a poster in seven languages: English, French, German, Spanish, Arabic, Japanese and Chinese. Only the first four could be done. We had to hire an Arab calligrapher to write the Arabic script by hand and import it to Illustrator using stylus. We forfeited the Japanese and Chinese entirely. Then we had to forfeit the Arabic one too, because just before production, we discovered a typo!

djsmiley2k

lul

I remember training as a graphic designer

dear god kill me

William Mariager

It's kinda that work I do @FleetCommand, automation of prints in multiple languages based on various sources of data, like trade items, personnel files, etc.

InDesign is a beast to work with. The most recent implementation I did cut their republishing work down from several weeks to a day of hardware churning.

Burgi

you can link indesign copy to textfiles and it pulls whatever is in that text file into the design

as long as that file is unicode it should be fine

it also has an option to export the recommended CSS selectors

William Mariager

That's fine for some static stuff, but it gets complicated fast.

djsmiley2k

11:59

complicated is @rahuldottech's middle name!

Rahul "It's Complicated" dottech.

user226528

@djsmiley2k Why?

William Mariager

Imagine having to support 10+ languages. You'll have a file per language and you'll need some versioning, like languages on layers or multiple files.

Each with their own drawbacks.

Burgi

luckily as a developer that isn't my problem (for a change)

William Mariager

Hehe

ASCII-only

word anyone know how to change default equation style back to professional?

Burgi

12:05

have you asked on the main Super User site?

ASCII-only

no, I don't really have any other details to give >_>

nvm fixed it

Burgi

arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2017/09/…

William Mariager

Very interesting

Very low speed, but obviously it just needs to leak the important bits.

I saw another air-gap countermeasure that used the vibrations of a harddisk and a smartphone sensor.

Not very practical, but still interesting.

Burgi

the IR thing is a little more practical

William Mariager

Yeah

Burgi

12:20

you just need to park a van in the LOSand you are receiving

maybe train your security staff to go investigate vehicles that are sat in the middle of the screen

William Mariager

Well, as long as someone is looking at the screens, it shouldn't be an issue.

Burgi

i bet they aren't

> Serial IrDA 115.2 Kbps

thats fast enough for text documents

William Mariager

12:38

I wonder how that's possible

Considering the camera is likely only 30FPS, so that's 15 blinks per second.

allquixotic

13:06

Slashdot Deals misses the point of KRACK

djsmiley2k

slashdot deals..... ';D

allquixotic

Yeah I get their spam. I don’t buy anything from them though it’s just annoying ads

Burgi

@WilliamMariager its the lights that surround the lens, they aren't bound to a frame rate

Bob

@allquixotic Yea, then you only have to worry about all the stingrays :P

Burgi

djsmiley2k

13:10

@allquixotic they let me turn their adverts off

user226528

13:20

Is it very difficult to learn Japanese?

XKCD

The 1919 Great Boston Molasses Flood remained the deadliest confectionery containment accident until the Canadian Space Agency's 2031 orbital maple syrup delivery disaster.

Burgi

@FleetCommand what languages do you speak at the moment?

user226528

@Burgi That is one of the questions I do not answer about myself. But I speak English and have a minor in English linguistics.

user226528

I also don't speak Chinese.

Burgi

did it take you long to learn english? i think japanese is roughly the same difficulty

user226528

13:30

I didn't learn English. I acquired it.

user226528

So, yes, it took very long.

Burgi

everyone learns english...

user226528

No. Those who are born in England and live there for their whole life, for example, don't learn it. They acquire it.

user226528

Language acquisition isn't learning.

user226528

And since I had acquired it, I was overwhelmingly better than all my linguistics classmates in university.

Colonel Panic

13:33

Can anyone using Chrome 62 verify 'phase 2' here? chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure

djsmiley2k

@ColonelPanic I need an 'example' page to browse to tbh

user226528

Strange. I asked a language question and things related to it are happening.

Colonel Panic

@djsmiley2k As I understand, browsing to eg. iraqinquiry.org.uk/Search in incognito mode should appear as 'not secure'. But that doesn't happen for me.

Burgi

@FleetCommand what is learning if it isn't the acquisition of a new skill?

user226528

@Burgi Well, you are five centuries late for making that argument. Currently, the terms "language learning" and "language acquisition" are assigned to two different processes in human brain that result in one human being able to speak a language.

djsmiley2k

13:45

urggggh

same @ColonelPanic

user226528

@Burgi However, if you employ the metonymy device to refer to both "language acquisition" and "language learning" with the term "learning", no one will blame you. Metonymy is part of the language. But I was avoiding this device to make a point, which you missed.

Burgi

@FleetCommand i didn't even know that "metonymy" was a thing

djsmiley2k

I knwo there's a way to tell a cisco asa to keep bridge interfaces 'up' even if one of the sides is disconnected

but i can't remember what it is :9

user226528

The point is, I didn't attend any English class, in which they start teaching English to non-speakers by translating "This is an apple" to their native tongue. (I was in such a class though.)

William Mariager

I'm still not seeing how it's getting the speeds then @Burgi, unless it's outbound only and the receiver has special hardware. The leds around the lens aren't receivers as far as I understand?

Unless it's the "Auto LED ON/OFF Sensor" that does the receiving.

Burgi

13:55

its a one way transfer

Can you guys vote for my office to win an award? The office is SLG.

Colonel Panic

@djsmiley2k thanks

djsmiley2k

not sure since you hate it so much @Burgi

but some how i did it anyway.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k hate what?

djsmiley2k

14:11

that place

or at least you moan about it lots :P

Burgi

the office is and people are nice, the management is the sticky spot

and is the crap legacy stuff i have to maintain

That Brazilian Guy

So I was listening to this:

Peter Bjorn And John - Young Folks

►

An Youtube puts as "Up Next" this:

Foster The People - Pumped up Kicks

►

And this:

MGMT - Kids

►

OMG YouTube knows I'm secretly a hipster from 2006!!!

Burgi

15:09

from our Umbraco freelancer:

> Honestly... for that version of Umbraco. Burn it, burn it with fire.

djsmiley2k

#D

bwDraco

15:30

roar

I missed some stuff from last night. Let me catch up...

@JourneymanGeek I have good tools in my toolbox :P

Journeyman Geek

I assumed so ;p

bwDraco

So... I hope system building can begin soon.

Burgi

@bwDraco TWSS

bwDraco

lol

Journeyman Geek

That's what he said.... ;p

djsmiley2k

15:35

Will it have RGBBBBB!!!!

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k The board and graphics card do and I will be using it—but RGB lighting is not my top priority for Astaroth. I care mainly about getting the system up and running ASAP.

djsmiley2k

hehe

Journeyman Geek

heh

I'd turn any RGB lighting off

bwDraco

RGB lighting has turned into a meme. On one hand, it's another stylistic customization point; on the other hand, manufacturers have gone over the top with this feature.

Burgi

i like reporting bots

someone in turkey is hammering one of our WP sites

djsmiley2k

15:52

who you report em to?

@bwDraco nod, hehe

that's why I said it

all the linus tech media stuff has infected my brain with rgb

Burgi

@djsmiley2k the ISP

> netname: TurkTelekom

bwDraco

I've gone through this before.

Identify the IP of the spammer, run Whois on it, and contact the hosting provider corresponding to it.

djsmiley2k

@Burgi oh, meh

good luck getting anything done

Burgi

the last time i got the VPS they were using turned off

djsmiley2k

nice

but hardly worth while :/

Burgi

15:58

thinning the swarm

might not bother reporting the korean hackers

but ones in europe and north america I report

Ben Richards

17:51

Random curiosity and I'm not sure how to effectively search for the answer via a search engine. I have a new laptop which charges via a USB-C cable. It has a power brick that has the USB-C connector on the other end which will charge it. What would happen if I took a USB-C cable (like what I charge my phone with) and plug it into the USB port of another computer? Would it create a power loop and damage it? Or is it smart enough to not do that? As you can guess, I'm hesitant to actually test it.

It would seem unwise to put devices out there that leave this possibility open without safeguarding against it, but I've also seen OEMs ship USB A-A cables, which are also bad, so I can't assume.

djsmiley2k

the only way to truely tell is test it, eiter as youscribe or via a multimeter

what i believe should happen is some communication to agree on power and such

Ben Richards

It just seems like poor design, though I don't know the USB-C spec, either. Maybe it accounts for this.

Given the potential for damage to the PC or even fire, I wouldn't want to test it myself except in a controlled environment with equipment that I'd throw away anyway.

And I'm not going to set something like that up

djsmiley2k

18:11

nod

it's one of those things where even if the manufacturer told me it's safe etc

i still wouldn't trust it, because some cheapo chinese plant decided to swap some parts out

djsmiley2k

18:23

also, wheres everyone at :/

Ben Richards

18:40

work

djsmiley2k

yah but normally iut's semi active about this time

allquixotic

19:01

@BenRichards lol, there were reports that the first gen of Macbook Pro with USB-C would catch fire if you plugged in two Macbook (official) chargers into two separate ports

djsmiley2k

19:21

@Mokubai @allquixotic and finished, Platinum for Everybodys gone to the rapture \o/

Mokubai

@djsmiley2k Nice! I've not got any platinums yet

too lazy

djsmiley2k

hehe

I have to enjoy the game.

Mokubai

What's up next?

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k platinum what? steam achievement?

djsmiley2k

PS4 trophy

allquixotic

19:24

that game is kinda sad :/ humanity dies (figuratively? if not literally?)

djsmiley2k

maybe even literally

as the 'thing' escapes the valley.

allquixotic

yeah but what happens to it? does humanity exist in a higher plane of consciousness?

djsmiley2k

yeah, dunno

Kate is still 'alive' it seems at the end

back to binding of isaac

why are all the games i'm playing seemingly having relgious undertones o_O

Michael Frank

19:58

VS Code as weird syntax highlighting for Powershell... and it's kinda bugging me. :(

Also, morning!

Ben N

Hi!

allquixotic

I'm a cat

Mokubai

20:34

Do all Nvidia cards have the same video encoder? Like if I were to get a 1050 would the nvenc encoder be exactly the same speed as a 1070?

allquixotic

20:59

@Mokubai all Nvidia cards of the same generation should have the same screen resolution and framerate capabilities for the hardware encoder (NVenc)

Nvidia NVENC

Nvidia NVENC is a feature in its graphics cards that performs H.264 video encoding, offloading this compute-intensive task from the CPU. It was introduced with the Kepler-based GeForce 600 series in March 2012. The encoder works with Share game capture, which is included in Nvidia's GeForce Experience software and is supported in many other streaming and recording programs, such as Open Broadcaster Software (OBS) and Bandicam. == Versions == NVENC has undergone several hardware revisions since its introduction with the first Kepler GPU (GK104). === First generation (Kepler) === The firs...

Mokubai

I assumed that much, but playing with it on my 1070 it pegs the card clocks at maximum while encoding so I'm assuming a lower spec, and probably also lower clocked card, might be slower at maximum speed encoding by some degree...

I can't really find any direct comparison, they all assume you're going to be recording what you're playing, i.e. at 30/60FPS

I want maximum encoding speed but lower power

Michael Frank

21:51

Yes, I sometimes use my game discs when I cook a casserole.

djsmiley2k

Lol

allquixotic

@Mokubai pegging the clocks doesn't mean the GPU is 100% utilized, it's probably just necessary for the fast memory transfer from the GPU to CPU land

if you want truly low power hardware encoding, you need to use Intel QSV on a U-series processor

now that's power efficient

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank Hmm. Your chat avatar looks like a CD that has been peppered with shotgun pellets ;)

Michael Frank

Ha, I suppose it does...

Bob

22:28

morn

Journeyman Geek

22:53

Arf

Mokubai

@allquixotic I suspect I'd have to plug in a monitor to the CPU and sacrifice memory to the integrated graphics gods to enable qsv. Vaguely remember reading that nvenc was better quality.

I like much faster than CPU encoding, but still want quality. Moon on a stick basically.

bwDraco

23:54

arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/10/…

...but it still calls into question the health of the game industry's AAA segment.

I just don't get why a US$70-$80 base price is not an option. The market fails to understand how expensive games are to make these days. An industry consortium needs to raise awareness of the costs of game development so the market can accept a higher price.

To someone who's done the research, it's clear as day that $60 is not enough. Covering up the true cost with loot boxes is not the answer.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco games are around there new in many cases

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Not here in the States.

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