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> BREAKING NEWS: APPLE HAS RELEASED A NEW RECTANGLE. IT IS BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS RECTANGLE, WHICH WAS A LESSER RECTANGLE. SOME PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE NEW RECTANGLE BECAUSE OF [[CHANGES]]. THE NEW RECTANGLE HAS ANIMATED POO.
@JourneymanGeek The new rectangle has animated poo?
Well, Apple has invented the animated GIF last year, so...
WHY ELSE WOULD SOMEONE PAY A GRAND FOR A SLAB?
This year Apple invented poo? But I thought they invented crap every year!
00:08
Its animated crap
Next year you'll be able to smell it!
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00:39
hm
as is gyratory circus. Which sounds almost dirty.
01:01
Worth it? I'm not sure I like the thickness, though; 0.89" is a tad excessive.
(would prefer to sacrifice a bit of capacity for a thinner case)
eh, tbh, I'd rather toss in a reasonably sized power bank 'in case' over a extended battery
my OP3 does do all day (except in job -1, for some odd reason)
The point is that I don't have to have a cable dangling around.
I use my phone pretty hard so I tend to run the battery down rather quickly.
ah, then maybe
7500 mAh, 28.5 Wh? That would mean one of those high-voltage (3.8V) LiPo batteries inside...
(This is actually very common with modern smartphone batteries)
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01:17
@JourneymanGeek I last a day, easy, on the S7 :P
A full charge will usually last a day, but I don't like deep-cycling the battery (100% to >20%) every single day.
Besides, since I found a way to keep the battery at a constant charge level when plugged in (see chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=40058500#40058500), I'm just looking to keep the battery in the best possible condition.
The case has a USB output (which frankly I don't need) and Dash Charge pass-through.
Again, the biggest issue is the thickness, at 0.89". which makes the $60 hard to justify.
01:34
Looks like a solid product, but again, thickness can be a problem.
I am just on the fence :\
01:46
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Inflatoplane (entirely random, but came across this by accident...)
Wow. 70x amplification?
Well, CHARGEN had an amplification factor of 358.8x, NTP even more.
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Yea. And if for whatever reason you have a DC sitting on a network edge (not recommended) then you've got publicly exposed CLDAP by default.
A DC exposed to the internet is almost certainly going to be super bad
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...ask me how I know :P
01:50
Your DC got DDOS'd?
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Can't remember why exactly that firewall entry was disabled, but that's fixed now.
worse? ;p
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@BenN wrong end of the gun
Ah
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01:51
I really should set up another VM for routing
the whole network was a test network on limited hardware, so another VM was ... difficult. but never bothered after upgrading slightly :P
anyway, it was actually perfectly safe with the firewall entry. still don't remember why it was disabled... hm.
might be a good time to play with Server Core, actually
wait.
waitwaitwait.
Linux containers? On Windows?
Yup, Hyper-V is pretty good at Linux as of late
Wait a second, are Hyper-V Containers the same thing as Windows Server Containers?
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@BenN No, not Linux on Hyper-V. But first-party support for Linux containers on a (minimal) Linux kernel on Hyper-V...
Ah. Admittedly I don't know a lot about Hyper-V other than how to use it for normal VM stuff
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@BenN You know the difference between a full VM and a container?
I'm aware that there's a difference, but that's about it
Please feel free to correct me at any time if I'm talking nonsense :p
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02:02
@BenN Briefly, a full VM emulates PC hardware while a container shares the kernel.
Containers are a form of isolation that're much cheaper than VMs while offering almost as much isolation.
In Linux, that's normally implemented via kernel namespaces.
So, Windows Containers are very new and sound very cool.
Oh goody... If this Windows 10 build fails to enrol the computer with AzureAD it falls to back only allowing us to create a local user. Yay. :|
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Linux containers are fairly well established, though still a bit new.
Linux containers on Windows sounds ludicrous but amazing.
@bwDraco Less software flexibility?
Would, say, special kernel-mode drivers not fly in a container?
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Ah. Yea, that's true.
More accurately, as a container user you can't modify the kernel.
That's kinda what I mean. It might impact Linux distribution compatibility, for example.
02:05
@Bob it could be implemented on top of the interfaces used for the WSL
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As the container host/admin, you still can.
@allquixotic No, it's actually on a Linux kernel! :O
well then it's hypervised
might as well use LXD
> Yesterday we showed for the first time, a Linux container running natively on Windows Server using the Hyper-V isolation technology currently available only to Windows Server Containers
I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it sounds pretty neat
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> This feature uses Hyper-V isolation to run a Linux kernel with just enough OS to support containers.
@allquixotic The point of first-party support is you can manage all your containers from the same UI
And presumably (hopefully?) you can more easily adjust resources...
@allquixotic I would like to see the namespacing features in WSL though.
02:28
50
Q: What is the least "world changing" reason why the government would pay for you to keep a llama during your 43rd year of life?

Jaden TravnikI want to make a short story about an Earth just like ours except it's commonly accepted that at the age of 43, the government allows people to have a llama in their house and the government pays for the llama and the food during that year and that year only. Most people just have a Llama day whe...

this is ... oddly specific
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02:41
lol
03:24
@Bob WRT that MSE question - its probably impossible to replicate unless you're on the same ISP ;p
and that was supposed to be quick and snarky. Then rabbithole, damn my terrier genes ;)
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03:40
@JourneymanGeek the lack of image, yea. but the lack of alt text is rather more confusing :\
@Bob I'd assume that might depend on the nature of the block
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@JourneymanGeek I'm... not seeing it. If they blocked the image, then alt text should show because that's already part of the (HTTPS) page. The other alternative is they're returning a blank image, but... the imgur links are HTTPS too.
Well. NEITHER IS HE... ;p
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@JourneymanGeek groan
But but... the problem isn't with se or imgur...
and we don't know what his ISP is doing.
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03:47
@JourneymanGeek but... the ISP can't be doing anything to cause this behaviour -_-
unless it's stripping HTTPS I suppose...
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@JourneymanGeek what is certificate? :P
@JourneymanGeek oooh, actually. opera turbo?
@Bob I suggested tunnelbear ;p
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@JourneymanGeek nono, I mean... maybe they're using opera turbo (or similar) and that's stuffing it up?
ohhh
I assumed its the stock browser
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03:52
@JourneymanGeek same, but it's worth the question :P
What browser are you using? Is it by any chance a browser like Opera or Chrome with their image compression proxy (data saver, Opera Turbo, etc.) enabled? — Bob 19 secs ago
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@JourneymanGeek Now I'm thinking it has to be part of the browser.
THis seemed oddly appropriate for the jelly...
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Because any network-level blocking should show the alt...
@Bob Other than his ISP apparently randomly pulling off this crap before.
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03:54
@JourneymanGeek What, his ISP has blocked alt text before?
Or maybe some weird browser that doesn't render alts like they should...
@Bob blocked imgur ;p
that's probably the core of his problem still
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04:40
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04:55
@BenN Server Core seems to be built around batch and vbscript :(
@Bob whatt
05:28
sounds about right
06:16
Hurrah! HNQ answer ;)
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Congrats :P
which one is it?
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A: Why does searching "0.693" bring me to "0.0.2.181"?

DavidPostillWhy did I get redirected to this IP? The browser address bar sees a . and thinks it is an IP address. This gets passed to Windows to do a DNS lookup: > nslookup 0.693 Server: UnKnown Address: 192.168.42.129 Name: 0.693 Address: 0.0.2.181 Note: 693 = 256 * 2 + 181 So 0.693 gets tran...

It's always the dumb/useless questions that make HNQ ...
Anyways. Gotta go. Attendance at $work is required :(
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07:12
...dammit
remote desktop gateway isn't supported on Server Core
really?!
07:43
@Bob i think you can still use RDC when it is enabled but only if its in terminal mode
it has been a long time since i tried that though
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@Burgi remote desktop connection works fine; I'm talking about the gateway
ah
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so, next idea was to use web application proxy on Core and point it at remote desktop gateway on a different server => technet.microsoft.com/en-US/library/…
supported option, yay
...except web application proxy requires adfs even if you don't use the pre-auth features
microsoft. why.
 
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08:58
Good absurdist humor doesn't really need a reason, except that the reason itself could also be absurd. In the world today, people buy 100,000 dollar work trucks that could earn them thousands of dollars a day, and instead polish them, paint them and modify them at extreme expense and run them loudly up and down my street in what appears to be some kind of mating ritual. — Sean Boddy yesterday
LMAO
09:40
Hi !
There is someone able to help me to deal with my OpenVPN routing ?
Thanks ! :)
 
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10:51
what does RFI stand for in the context of business and contracts?
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@Burgi request for information?
 
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@JourneymanGeek I can guess which one that is :P
Hm. Does anyone here use CCleaner?
@Bob not at the moment
Former boss used to hit most of the machines at job -1 with that and malwarebytes...
13:03
@Bob yes What will you like to know about CCleaner ?
Is there any disclosure as to when did the injection of the Malware happen ?
> download servers used by Avast (the company that owns CCleaner) were compromised to distribute malware
Avast, the security company, was hacked. Oh how ironic.
for some reason I thought it was pirinform
@JourneymanGeek It was. And... Still is?
> Avast Piriform believes it was able to prevent the breach harming customers
13:08
ah ok
I actually do use some of their other stuff
Kasperky has become toxic
terrifying to know that they might be compromised
eh, its probably also a lot of politics and deflection too
I agree
I just run Defender. If my AV provider is compromised, that's the least of my worries ;)
they really do have the best security tools out there
I mean is there any security or Antivirus company that has not been compromised out there? In today's world, it almost impossible
13:11
iPhone 7... iPhone 8.... iPhone X... iPhone X One X... iPhone 360...
@Bob Isn't it supposed to be crappy anyway?
@christianx There is no proof
It's just speculation, AFAIK
OH RUSSIAN COMPANY MUST BE BAD BAD BAD
its the leverage that the russian government can apply to companies that concerns most people
@Burgi The US can do that too
Any government can, they all have provisions for it
It's suddenly so cold here and I love it!
The last few days have been 32 ~35 and now it's back to 23
Please winter don't leave!!!
@rahuldottech there are known checks and balances with that though
i refer you to the FBI v Apple case a couple of years ago
13:33
I used Kaspersky for a while when I was younger.
I remember downloading it from ALIAS and getting it keygen'd ha
14:01
What the hell?
seems ok...
@Burgi Those password requirements are messed up
No <, >, <space>, &, ,?
seems like a normal password requirement
and they might not be sanatizing the inputs...
@Burgi That implies that they have some sort of stupid half-assed input sanitation
14:05
@Burgi Also, limiting to 15 characters is stupid. Like, really stupid.
Welcome to India
@Burgi HA!
It's a US website
The official SAT examination website
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@Burgi if by "normal" you mean "utterly clueless", then maybe
made in india probably
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though, funnily enough, ASP.NET WebForms will reject form submissions with "dangerous" characters like <
14:07
@Burgi Run by US govt. collegeboard.org
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pain in the arse... I went and globally disabled that stupid option cause it broke our password reset page
@Burgi C'mon, don't arbitrarily blame everything on Indian techies -_-
outsourced to India as are all major government contracts
@Burgi baseless accusation -_-
also they have to limit it 15 characters so the NSA can easily cycle through the possible combinations
14:09
@Burgi
> By checking the box, you understand that the College Board website is located in the U.S. and you consent to the transfer of your personal data to the U.S., where your personal data will be subject to U.S. law and the level of data protection may be different from your country of origin.
TATA Communications are doing most of the UK government IT these days
@rahuldottech American Websites, British Websites, All copied from SO written in india!
;p
@Burgi I dislike that company
@Burgi most of them probably have a local office staffed by just enough locals to keep the government happy, and a ton of folks on contract...
I think I might get this printed on a hoodie or shirt or jacket
With my website's URL and some funny text on the back
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14:21
@rahuldottech copyright?
@rahuldottech Printing a piece of clothing on a piece of clothing. So meta!
While the 64-bit installer installs both 32-bit and 64-bit binaries, if you never ran the 32-bit binary, you may not have been affected.
Check for the following registry key: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Piriform\Agomo:TCID
apparently O365 in europe is offline
(the key is not present on either of my W10 systems)
Note that CCleaner runs the 64-bit binary by default. You'd have to manually execute the 32-bit binary to be impacted on a 64-bit installation.
All systems are current, and nothing malicious has been found on standard AV scans so far.
...welp, ordered that ZeroLemon phone case.
14 hours ago, by bwDraco
ZeroLemon

High CapacityProvides additional 150% power to your OnePlus 3/3T. Keep your phone all day alive. Full Edge ProtectionPiano black soft TPU case wraps the phone and offers full edge protection.Related Products:ZeroLemon 30000mAh Type C Battery Pack: http://a.co/1Wb6vr1ZeroLemon USB 3.1 Type C Cable: http://a.co/9Fm8fzePackage Contents:1 x OnePlus 3/3T Battery Case2 x U-shaped Connectors
(determined that it would be of use at work)
TBH, my wallet is even thicker than this.
It would also enable me to travel lighter.
Prime Same-Day, will arrive later today.
15:11
> The upcoming changes have caused an uproar, with critics calling them a reshaping of education along the conservative, Islam-oriented government's line.
> Some biologists say the move will leave Turkish students unable to understand even basic science
all science is magic anyway
All magic is witchcraft! BURN ALL THE SCIENTISTS!
15:44
@ThatBrazilianPony All fire is witchcraft! BURN ALL THE IMMOLATORS!
Dropped my phone, yolo!
@MetaEd all oxygen is fire creating! Burn all the oxygen!
<< currently 220~ miles from home
@bwDraco I want something like this for my phone just because
Moto G5 (non plus iirc)
I think I missed you guys
You need to work on your aim
So remember how I interviewed for Cisco and then they restructured the team I'd join if successful and I chose to forget about it and the awesomeness it'd of been? Well.... They are looking for people again :/
@djsmiley2k why are you 220 miles from home?
superuser.com/questions/1021154/… this user really hates uncles apparently.
15:53
@Ramhound its up to 11 minutes
@Ramhound IRONICALLY... i.sstatic.net/a6gRV.png
That lasted exactly 10 minutes
it said 11 on my screen...
you should submit it to GFSE
@rahuldottech Baseless acusations. The US government procurement Bureau will never accept any US gov contract to be outsourced to India. where did you get that Info?
Who's buying the new Apple Iphone? I know I am NOT
16:12
in Ask a Super User Moderator, 10 secs ago, by bwDraco
A summary of the lessons learned:
1) Listen before you talk. Don't interject unless you really need to.
2) Don't take things too seriously. Many situations can be defused through dialogue, without the need to escalate them to a moderator.
3) Avoid drawing attention to things unnecessarily. This can be disruptive and can make things worse.
4) It's important to maintain the natural flow of chat. By gracefully resolving situations, we can avoid drama and disruption.
(for searchability)
@ThatBrazilianPony lol
@JourneymanGeek 10 minutes 38 seconds, according to the time popovers.
i was right!
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fliff
is a "fliff" a floof done in a haughty way?
16:56
@Burgi holiday
So basically there's no news here. What's occurring. (Yes I'm aware I'm on the internet but people's views r important to me)
Last I knew therw was a fire 🔥 in the underground and T. May raised the threat level to crit.
Oh and N Korea did another launch. ( Was it bigger, further?)
@djsmiley2k Longest launch yet - could reach Guam
@bwDraco couldn't they already??
Hmmm 183 miles now, apparently I've managed to bend space or something!
17:15
@Burgi Flirty floof!
🐒 any way the weather is holding out
@bwDraco they will ignoring the warnings?
17:35
It's hard to tell. Diplomacy has not worked thus far.
17:50
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18:41
Hum dear dum
19:48
Srs. I wish they couldn't say it's AI -_-
@bwDraco except they don't....
Same way movies need not cost millions, but there is a collation between what you've spent on making something and what you'll spend advertising it to ensure you profit...
20:06
@djsmiley2k where are you holidaying?
220 miles puts you either in south wales or cornwall
20:23
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Q: Allow answers to be favourited in addition to questions

HashimTo me this is such a common sense expansion to the feature of marking favourite questions that I can only conclude it has at some point been suggested and shut down. That said, a search couldn't bring anything up on the topic, so here I am. Often - most of the time, actually - when I favourite a...

@Burgi Close, Anglesey.
Hmmm I need another good 'offline' game for my phone
I've created a monster
(that's a userscript mod to get emojis working on stack chat, specifically aimed for linux users as getting emojis working on linux chrome/chromium is a huge pain)
20:47
@Hashim You do know that there is a feed posting new meta.su questions to this room? Scroll up at bit to see the feed in action ...
21:09
Oh God that question:
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Q: Did Yuri Gagarin end up in critical condition after coming back to Earth due to the missing magnetic field?

PermanentGuestMy friend's mother is about to undergo some treatment in magnetic field therapy for osteoarthritis and he is trying to verify if this is useful as claimed, or if this has any harmful effects. The website of their institution claims that: In Yuri Gagarin’s historic flight to space, he returned...

Purely anecdotal: I've once spend three hours in the absence of the earth's magnetic field while sitting in an actively shielded chamber of an MEG. I felt quite fine. :) — Emil Sep 13 at 15:26
21:27
on windows10, If I backup only the ~500M recovery partition, I could put back windows on that laptop later on? (I'd like to format it on linux for work)
Oh, didn't notice that @DavidPostill
Does it post all questions?
@caub you can probably put windows back even without recovery partition
but when in doubt, full disk backup
22:18
@caub Wrong!!
that recovery partition doesn't have enough info to recover Windows
@Avery a full disk backup, or create a recovery drive.
Why is Display Port so difficult to use. :|
I have to build a whole bunch of desktops... but they only have DP. If I remove the cable to start the next build then I can never get the video back on the previous machine.
superuser.com/questions/1117871/… just a user moaning in an non-answer.
That shouldn't be the case.
DP is suppose to be hot swappable.
Well these ones sure as hell aren't...
What are the specs on the cables? Typically HDMI/DP cables are all created equally provided they are the same revision
i.e. there is no difference in quality between the $40 3" cable and the $2.99 3" cable provided it's the same revision.
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Q: When are we going to get the ability to favourite answers?

HashimOverzealous mods - please don't mark this as a dupe until you've read the entire question. Once you have, see here for why it isn't a duplicate. This question was originally posted on superuser.stackexchange before someone pointed out there was no way to implement such a feature without doing i...

22:32
@Ramhound It's probably HPs shitty implementation...
"Overzealous mods" - Why the negativity?
They only work if the cable is connected when the PC is powered on.
Closing a question as a duplicate is not being overzealous if it actually is a duplicate, nor are most questions closed as a duplicate by actual moderators, but the entire community which requires 5 individual people to do so.
Fair point
It was just a bit of humour, but amended
negativity is humorous?
22:36
Deadpan or dry humor/wit describes the deliberate display of a lack of or no emotion, commonly as a form of comedic delivery to contrast with the ridiculousness of the subject matter. The delivery is meant to be blunt, ironic, laconic, or apparently unintentional. == Etymology == The term deadpan first emerged as an adjective or adverb in the 1920s, as a compound word combining "dead" and "pan" (a slang term for the face). The oldest usage recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary comes from The New York Times (1928), which defines the term as "playing a role with expressionless face". An example...
Also, I take it you've never watched a Louis CK skit
Or the other one
What's his name
George Carlin
Two of the most infamous, loved comics of recent years, and their jokes are far from puppies and rainbows
Yes; I have watched Louis CK
Why do I even bother...
I'm not really sure
I more than answered your question, so I'm not sure what you want from me.
I could equally ask why I bothered responding to your "negativity is humorous" comment, given how banal it was
@Hashim I-is that an emoji
In the Wiki article?
Yeah, it's this one
:|
Actually I've forgotten how to represent that with just characters, it's been a while
oh ok
so my script isn't broken
22:43
But it has a phone emoji equivalent yes
I thought that it was breaking the wiki images and adding random emojis
Lmao
then again that's a blob
the emoji script uses twemoji
I should make an emojione 2 variant.
It is indeed a blob
I don't like any of these new emojis tbh
I miss the old PHPbb forum ones
I'm an emoji expert. Nobody knows emoji better than me. My emoji knowledge is absolutely tremendous.
22:45
Take it easy Mein Fuhrer
22:56
@bwDraco .... Is joke... See ramhound's comment
@Avery, I'm really interested in your VPN, but I'm concerned about the trust aspect of entrusting my VPN to a single person. How can I (or anyone else) trust that you've disabled logs? Also, what do you get out of running your own VPN for others?
Lmao I just had Clippy come up after I typed "How can I..."
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> How can I (or anyone else) trust that you've disabled logs?
oooh i saw something for you
With every VPN, you need to take the provider's word when they say that they're actually doing (or not doing) something
I don't hold logs.
> Also, what do you get out of running your own VPN for others?
you should!
no
plausible deniability only goes so far...
anyway
its bedtime
nn
I'm a privacy and free speech advocate, and living in a country that often goes through the path of censorship, I do my best to prevent it, be for myself or for others. I've even helped develop software to detect censorship and helped document it before (with turkeyblocks.org). As long as I'm helping defeat blocks (in or outside Turkey), then honestly, it's a small scale victory for me.
23:13
@Burgi Is that the Fox game?
These blocks can be blocks put in place by companies (youtube, netflix blocks) or by govt. IDC.
Just don't break the laws and don't totally destroy my bandwidth and I will continue not caring.
Been a while since I asked a question on the main site! :D
23:49
@MichaelFrank it is a fox game

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