Root Access

Bob

14:00

ah, here it is => chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=40022501#40022501

Jayakrishna Pillai

Get linux then

Journeyman Geek

@JayakrishnaPillai most folks here have (fast) SSDs

Bob

Ha. And, immediately, on first launch, I can say the UI is an absolute failure.

Journeyman Geek

@JayakrishnaPillai dosen't solve everything ;)

Jayakrishna Pillai

I get 2-3 s

Bob

14:01

Poor HiDPI support, failure to show on the primary monitor...

and I really shouldn't be surprised by the horribad MDI implementation, but I'll switch to SDI first

Jayakrishna Pillai

Its not for professional use, get Photoshop for that.

Bob

oh god. the SDI dock behaviour is ... well, I can tell how much actual thought was put into the UI

it's like the quick crap I cobble together :D

Jayakrishna Pillai

GIMP loads up pretty fast for me 2-3s. For normal use its great.

Bob

@allquixotic I suspect it might have something to do with number of fonts. Probably some poorly-scaling behaviour.

Journeyman Geek

>_>

do you guys install a ton of fonts? ;p

(I think I have 4-5 non standard ones at most, and that's cause dyslexia ;p)

Bob

14:07

@JourneymanGeek Nah, but the built-in fonts in Windows (w/ MSOffice?) and macOS are much more extensive than what (K)Ubuntu provides, AFAICT

Journeyman Geek

ah

Zachiel

I like how InDesign can load different fonts for different projects.

Jayakrishna Pillai

I dont use that many fonts btw

allquixotic

@Bob if it's reading every last byte of every font on the system, that's 542 MB of fonts.

Jayakrishna Pillai

May be that is the reason

Bob

14:11

@allquixotic It was actually a fair bit quicker on subsequent loads. Probably managed to cache.

And I mean some app cache, not disk cache.

Hm. So possibly mac-specific... maybe failing to save w/ some permission issue?

allquixotic

@Bob seems likely

it's slow every start on mac

Bob

I just realised I've not actually installed PDN on this machine :P

hm... can't remember the last time I needed general image editing actually

most images I deal with now are screenshots... snagit and greenshot both provide decent enough editors for that

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob oh, I mostly use the screenshot tool to make screenshots so, PDN for editing

Bob

@JourneymanGeek tried greenshot? :P

Journeyman Geek

I badly messed up my last attempt at a majorish edit, but it was me, not it ;)

@Bob eh lazy

SPEAKING OF WHICH...

Bob

14:15

@JourneymanGeek lol. I got it because lazy :D

Don't forget the time you spend finding the chart to look up what you save. And the time spent reading this reminder about the time spent. And the time trying to figure out if either of those actually make sense. Remember, every second counts toward your life total, including these right now.

Journeyman Geek

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/300971/… (nice thing about the jelly. I don't need to resize screenshots ;p)

Bob

I average 1-5 screenshots a day, and it took maybe 5 mins to install... saved 6-28 days and a lot of monotony :D

Journeyman Geek

I don't XD

oh and crops

(there's a big mess off to the left you can't see ;p)

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek when I glanced at this, I saw Ash with a halo over his head

how's he doing?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic not quite nearly ready to cross the rainbow bridge.

Doing well, wee bit grumpy, and his leg gives him trouble somedays... ;p

(and he still drags me for slightly shorter long walks when he can)

Faheem Mitha

14:29

@allquixotic Ash would be the dog?

He's cute.

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha most of the time I'm in charecter. ;p

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Pardon?

Journeyman Geek

Hence the references to "the human" (IE the person behind the keyboard) and the roomie "the dog" . I totally moderate chat as my dog..

(the roomie thing started cause... @allquixotic thought I had arthritis, when its ash that had it.)

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek That's confusing.

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha people get used to it ;p

Faheem Mitha

14:36

@JourneymanGeek Oh

That Brazilian Pony

14:55

@bwDraco Move what? Do you still need it?

@FaheemMitha Ash is the IRL dog, @JourneymanGeek is Ash online. There's a human somewhere, not certain what's his role in all that. Probably feeding the dog.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianPony yes. And chaperoning the walkies.

Faheem Mitha

@ThatBrazilianPony That makes me more confused than ever.

Oh, I see @JourneymanGeek has a picture of a dog as his avatar.

Journeyman Geek

hmm imgur.com/a/UmJOs cameras on my OP3 and my jelly under 'ideal' conditions... TLDC - the camera on the jelly is pretty terrible ;p

@FaheemMitha I've always had different pictures of the same dog as my ava, other than the short period when we had ... something else.

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Anyway, cute dog.

Journeyman Geek

He is

That Brazilian Pony

14:58

I've always been Brazilian, except for the periods when I'm not.

@JourneymanGeek Stop talking of yourself in the third person! @ThatBrazilianPony never does that!

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha current ava is in my mod hat ;p

That Brazilian Pony

Paws against the wall, dog!

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Mod hat? Is that a thing?

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha yes, literally.

Faheem Mitha

Huh.

Journeyman Geek

15:00

Mods get a hat with a moderator diamond on it

Faheem Mitha

You could try a deerstalker.

@JourneymanGeek That's an interesting perk.

Journeyman Geek

Mod perks are T shirts (I think 2 - SE and Site, but I could be mistaken), and a hat, and stickers.

100k perks are better ;)

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianPony Never mind.

That Brazilian Pony

@JourneymanGeek Huh? superuser.com/help/privileges goes only up to 25k

Are there "secret hidden easter egg" privileges?

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianPony This was mentioned before - there's a swag pack for 100k and 250k for most sites

yeah, its kinda easter egg

also, you get an email from SE when you do

That Brazilian Pony

15:04

Oh

bwDraco

I guess I should start answering more questions again :)

Journeyman Geek

tbh tho, I'm in no real rush for 250k, I answer stuff for fun and I'm currently trying to hit 20k on MSE

bwDraco

I'm not really aiming for any particular reputation milestones. I answer questions because they're interesting. At 32k, I'm already past the point where there's anything big to gain.

Journeyman Geek

yup

For me my next big personal milestone is beating JohnT ;)

That Brazilian Pony

OH LOOK ITS BURGI

Burgi

15:10

:)

@JourneymanGeek ty singapore, great race :D

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's... well, depends what your benchmark for "terrible" is :P

Burgi

a wet night race

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hm. Compared to a potato?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Well, this is my "terrible":

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi ahh, yes

roomie was not amused by the rain

Bob

15:13

@JourneymanGeek Can you try taking a photo in low light, and a photo of text (e.g. book)?

That Brazilian Pony

@Bob The ~~resolution~~ pixel ammount isn't low but... Why is Monet inside your phone?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Basically, try to recreate the photos here: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/…

Oh wait that's "medium" light

Journeyman Geek

imgur.com/a/UmJOs

bwDraco

@Bob Got any Exif on that image?

Journeyman Geek

low light

its too dark to do text ;)

Bob

15:17

@JourneymanGeek compare the op3 in the same light? :P

@JourneymanGeek maybe tomorrow for that, then. or desk lamp? :D

@bwDraco you're gonna have to look/ask here: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob lemme turn it on

@Bob the OP3's image looks brighter than reality

Bob

@JourneymanGeek pretty normal, actually

it probably auto'd a fairly high sensitivity and low shutter speed

bwDraco

@Bob I only see generic camera data in the Exif.

Bob

@bwDraco what are you looking for?

bwDraco

Aperture, shutter speed, ISO.

Bob

15:22

@bwDraco for that particular photo? probably isn't any. depends if firefox os saved any...

bwDraco

@Bob I have the wxIF add-on and the data on the image is just generic.

Bob

for other photos of the same scene? you might be able to pull it off the nexus 5 or iphone 5s examples

bwDraco

Just a moment while I fetch it...

Caption	Exif_JPEG_420
Make	Spreadtrum
Model	SP8805ga
Orientation	Normal
Software	Software Version v0.0.0
Creator	Artist
Copyright	Copyright,Spreadtrum,2011
Focal Length	3.8mm
Color Space	sRGB
Date	2007: 5:22 9: 9:57 (no TZ)

The image from the Nexus 5 contains location data, pointing to southeastern New Jersey.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob updated with the op3/dog

bwDraco

iPhone 5s output: 1/120s f/2.2 ISO 40.

Bob

15:25

@JourneymanGeek thanks. so the jelly is "not great but not terrible" in my rankings :P

bwDraco

It's not exactly a dark scene.

Bob

@bwDraco they did say mid light. the tools one right?

bwDraco

@Bob I'm looking at the forest trail scene.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob added text with semi crap lighting

Bob

@bwDraco oh, I was talking about the tools one for "low"

Journeyman Geek

15:27

tho I should redo those

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ok that's almost as bad :P

bwDraco

Exposure value 10.67 (relative to ISO 100) - that's a fairly bright outdoor scene.

Exposure value

In photography, exposure value (EV) is a number that represents a combination of a camera's shutter speed and f-number, such that all combinations that yield the same exposure have the same EV (for any fixed scene luminance). Exposure value is also used to indicate an interval on the photographic exposure scale, with a difference of 1 EV corresponding to a standard power-of-2 exposure step, commonly referred to as a stop. The EV concept was developed by the German shutter manufacturer Friedrich Deckel in the 1950s (Gebele 1958; Ray 2000, 318). Its intent was to simplify choosing among equivalent...

Journeyman Geek

the one with the keyboard's the op3

on the other hand, rediculously small phone

and handy for android screenshots ;)

Bob

lol

bwDraco

Power + Volume Down!

Bob

15:31

@JourneymanGeek briefly tempted, but I don't really need to carry a third phone :P

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco at very small sizes so I don't need to resize

bwDraco

Hmm. LineageOS lets me select a specific area to take a screenshot of.

Journeyman Geek

SOmetimes I need the whole app ;)

@Bob this is kinda a second phone

bwDraco

15:48

EV is closer to 10.7. That's about shade lighting. Not super-bright but most cameras should not have trouble with that.

DavidPostill

16:24

lol

Avery

17:28

@DavidPostill first release should be empty

DavidPostill

@Avery lol

Avery

@Bob go to windows, tick "single window mode", thank me later

but yes

I did one rewrites for my current biggest project

and will do another soon

bwDraco

17:57

wccftech.com/…

Here's my comment:

> You know what the problem is? Optimization. Apple can optimize the hell out of their processors and software because they make everything in-house. Nobody else can do the same because they have to optimize existing software to run on their phones, even with custom or semi-custom SoCs like Samsung Exynos or Huawei Kirin, and would have to rewrite the guts of the Android system to get similar results. Apple can write their software to fit the processor like a glove and vice versa.

fixer1234

18:34

@ubu16, sorry, I haven't had a chance to get on the site for a couple of weeks. Glad your problem decided to fix itself. Thanks for the thoughts. Yeah, Florida and Texas are still digging out from a mess. I'm 900 miles from south Florida and fortunately, my area wasn't affected.

@JourneymanGeek, the first time I'm able to get back to the site in weeks, and I'm greeted by two adorable pix of Ash. The high point of my day.

bwDraco

Something I found a few days back, if you're interested.

2 days ago, by bwDraco

I discovered a way to set the charging target voltage on my phone \o/

With root, of course, and I suspect it'll work on any phone that uses the Qualcomm charge controller.

Set voltage from 3.6V to 4.5V (but don't overcharge!) in 20 mV increments by echoing the desired voltage in mV to /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_max. Before proceeding, read out the default value from that file so you know what the stock max voltage is. Don't overcharge--you don't want your phone to go the way of the Galaxy Note7.

I use this function to limit the battery's voltage to extend service life.

Unfortunately, it resets each time you plug in the phone.

(at least on my OnePlus 3T, which also ignores the setting on Dash Charge)

bwDraco

19:13

3.9V limit.

(continuously connected to a power bank)

Actualy, 3.84V limit, not 3.9V.

rahuldottech

19:54

Guys, I have an exam coming up and I need to stay up and study

Does anyone know of any tricks to stay awake and not fall asleep?

DavidPostill

@rahuldottech Lots of caffeine? I also know of some other drugs that are probably not legal in your jurisdiction ...

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill Yep, I'mma overdose on caffeine right about now

@DavidPostill 1. Shops are all closed at 1:30 AM; 2. I don't do drugs :)

DavidPostill

@rahuldottech I guessed as much :)

@rahuldottech How to Stay Awake Naturally

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill Taking a nap never works for me for some reason

DavidPostill

16 Tips for Staying Awake When You're Tired

rahuldottech

20:02

If I'm tired, I can't get up from a nap till I get a full sleep

Anyway I'll go study

@dav thanks

Avery

> 1. Get Up and Move Around to Feel Awake

this got me to dose off while walking and I crashed to ground twice.

It's risky if you're wayy too sleepy.

> Nap

hard to wake up from

> 4. Eat a Healthy Snack to Boost Energy

this works, but a snack might be hard to obtain or consume in certain conditions

Nick

20:32

Snacking often helps me stay awake, texts can be condensed and core concepts extrapolated from the internet.

DavidPostill

@Nick And you can spend hours trying to find a reliable source on the internet :)

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

@rahuldottech Fixing the internet will keep you awake :)

Nick

@DavidPostill that's something done before starting. Usually every school board / uni has some kind of reliable extra resources/material available.

bwDraco

@rahuldottech If you have coffee on hand, make another cup. That's what I did.

DavidPostill

@Nick So reliable that there are published list of mistakes. Just one example

Even more worrying a list of mistakes in medical textbooks and papers

Nick

@DavidPostill Corrections are good aren't they? I'm sure not everyone can get everything right. That's why peer review is important before submission, and expert review before publication.

DavidPostill

20:48

@Nick Of course. I'm just pointing out that nothing is reliable.

Nick

@DavidPostill ok, this was scary.

DavidPostill

@Bob A female koala has survived a 16km (10-mile) car journey, clinging to the axle of a four-wheel drive near Adelaide.

Must have been pretty dizzy with all that spinning around ...

Nick

"A typical tire is around 2 foot in diameter, giving around 840 revolutions per mile. At 60 mph, that gives you 840 rpm, 1,120 rpm at 80 mph, and 1,400 rpm at 100 mph." -Aaron Hubbard

Avery

@DavidPostill DSM5 has like 100 pages talking about changes from DSM4

well no.

It's from 809 to 816

7 pages. Still a ton.

DavidPostill

@Avery That's redefining stuff rather than mistakes though, no?

Avery

20:59

redefining can be considered that old stuff were mistakes

DavidPostill

True

Nick

redacting, retconing, revising, whatever.

errors need not always be mistakes. A mistake would be not to adress errors

Enterprise (ride)

The Enterprise is an amusement ride, manufactured primarily by HUSS Park Attractions and Anton Schwarzkopf beginning in 1972. The HUSS ride was an adaptation and improvement of a design produced earlier that year by Schwarzkopf, with an increased passenger capacity. Despite not owning the original incarnation of the ride, HUSS was issued the patent. Although Schwarzkopf was the first to build the more standard Enterprise, the overall design was actually predated by another ride, the Passat, which first opened in 1964. This is only considered to a precursor, however, as the mechanism used to lift...

Maybe that Koala experienced something like this ride.

GwenKillerby

22:42

everyone is either dead or sleeping. not chatty. it's chatty in like with a group or rocks.

bwDraco

23:10

roar

Ben N

Hi!

Michael Frank

Kia ora!

Journeyman Geek

Arf!

Ben N

How might I go about determining which component is at fault when a desktop won't boot (it does a bit of HDD access but then goes totally idle, monitors report no signal)?

I'm pretty sure the RAM and HDDs are fine

Alternate boot method isn't really an option; I can't even get to BIOS and even if I could, I can't see anything

That Brazilian Pony

@BenN I'm afraid there's no PowerShell command for that.

Just kidding.

My first step would be to try a new PSU first

Michael Frank

23:26

@BenN Pull any non-essential components out and see if it boots.

Just leave in enough for it to pass POST. 1 stick of RAM, Video card, etc.

Ben N

Ah, good idea

I'll also try the alternate PSU, but I need to get another one first - hopefully the computer shop on campus will test one for free

Michael Frank

Aren't most PSU failures fairly binary?

Journeyman Geek

@BenN one reason we test PSUs first is its the cheapest thing to replace..

Ben N

@MichaelFrank That's what I thought too, but I have seen bizarre things happen in an old PSU

Journeyman Geek

can you pull the PSU and jumper the black and green wires?

Michael Frank

23:30

^ Was about to suggest this also.

Journeyman Geek

are there any error lights?

Ben N

Unfortunately I'm not really set up for such things anymore - I can only have so much equipment in the dorm

No error lights, no beeps

That Brazilian Pony

@MichaelFrank Mostly, but I have seen a PSU that would power up its fans, power up the mobo fans, but wouldn't boot. Rare, but possible.

Michael Frank

Do you have a paper clip? :P

Journeyman Geek

"set up for such things" - piece of wire...

Ben N

23:31

Oh

Actually I don't even have that :/

I have a screwdriver, a single flash drive, a bunch of Ethernet cables, and that's the extent of my rescue kit

I have backups though!

They're even 100% up to date

Journeyman Geek

hah

Bob

morn

Ben N

Morning!

Journeyman Geek

@BenN add a flashlight, and a phone ejector thing, and that's my work toolkit.

I'd usually steal ~~socks~~ paperclips as required

That Brazilian Pony

@JourneymanGeek "phone ejector thing"?

Journeyman Geek

23:34

@ThatBrazilianPony sim tray extractor

That Brazilian Pony

How one ejects a phone? By defenestration?

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianPony rockets!!!

That Brazilian Pony

Journeyman Geek

Unrelatedly, I found this, while trying to find an appropriate image for "schnauzer" and rockets...

Michael Frank

Huh... I didn't know there was a correct way to listen to a tuning fork...

Journeyman Geek

23:38

also

@Ramhound ^

bwDraco

Aww...

Ben N

I think I fixed it :D :D :D

Removing unessential components (h/t @MichaelFrank) appears to be the trick

Bob

@BenN smells of gpu, esp. if no beeps or error codes. you using integrated?

Ben N

Specifically I had a parallel card that was problems

This was the same one that I talked about years ago that caused BSODs when I plugged a printer into it

I never bothered to remove it

That Brazilian Pony

@MichaelFrank The correct way is listening to a tuning fork. The wrong way is listening to an eaten popsicle.

Journeyman Geek

23:41

.... parallel port card?...

Ben N

Hooray for cheap peripherals

Yeah, back home I had an enormous old printer that I wanted to get working, and it only connected via parallel

I gave up because of the BSODs

Jul 23 '16 at 17:36, by Ben N

I really learned to appreciate driver signing when I bought a cheapo serial port card and its driver caused my machine to BSOD whenever its monitors turned off

(it's actually a parallel card, not sure why I thought it was serial)

Journeyman Geek

ah

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