Root Access

I just spent a few hours two nights ago trying to help a friend recover their trashed bootloader. After, guess what, the 1703 update. That didn't exactly roll back properly, did it?

@Ramhound Which is taking a risk.

IMO, an unnecessary risk since I should have the backup anyway...

But, eh, 1607 is still supported. If this means I need to wait an extra half a month for the HDD delivery, meh, I'll wait.

It's just mildly annoying timing.

Ramhound

eerr

amazon.com/Chuckit-Ultra-Squeaker-Orange-Medium/dp/B06XBSXQP5/…

lol

i think bear would have a heart attack

allquixotic

2:17 AM

bwDraco

@allquixotic What's with these images lately?

allquixotic

@bwDraco inspirobot.me

fixer1234

3:27 AM

@Ramhound, @JourneymanGeek, you can't be a real geek unless you go a route like this: youtube.com/watch?v=QGBuj6Mp5T4.

bwDraco

3:39 AM

For whatever reason, DNS resolution has gone out of whack on the main laptop.

The DNS client service has just totally locked up.

Off to the Feedback Hub.

bwDraco

3:59 AM

wccftech.com/…

Journeyman Geek

.... Google is linking me stuff about applying for public housing... This is slightly creepy

bwDraco

1 PFLOPS in a single rack. The vast majority of that compute capability is from the Radeon Instinct MI25 cards. There's 80 of them in the machine; each of these cards does 12.3 TFLOPS of FP32, so that's 983 TFLOPS. The AMD EPYC processors do the rest.

(Radeon Instinct MI25 uses the Vega GPU, the same technology underpinning the Radeon RX Vega cards coming out in less than two weeks)

> Back in 2007, you would have found the same power in a supercomputer called the IBM Roadrunner. This was a super computer project that was once the most powerful, well, super computer of its time and built by AMD and IBM for the Los Alamos National Laboratory. The cluster had 696 racks spanning an area of 6000 square feet and consumer 2,350,000 watts of electricity. The cluster consisted primarily of around 64,000 dual core Opteron CPUs and some accelerators.

So basically in a little over 10 years, AMD has managed to make a system that consumes 98% less power and takes up 99.93% less spa…

IBM Roadrunner

Roadrunner was a supercomputer built by IBM for the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, USA. The US$100-million Roadrunner was designed for a peak performance of 1.7 petaflops. It achieved 1.026 petaflops on May 25, 2008 to become the world's first TOP500 Linpack sustained 1.0 petaflops system. In November 2008, it reached a top performance of 1.456 petaflops, retaining its top spot in the TOP500 list. It was also the fourth-most energy-efficient supercomputer in the world on the Supermicro Green500 list, with an operational rate of 444.94 megaflops per watt of power used. The hybrid...

Think about it. Cramming 1 PFLOPS into a single server rack.

allquixotic

5:04 AM

Avery

5:38 AM

nice

Rahul2001

6:16 AM

Hello!

Avery

6:33 AM

HEADBANG

I JUST ACCIDENTALLY OVERWROTE 2GB OF DATA ON A (COMPLETELY FULL, 8GB) SD CARD

anyone has any tips?

I was using rufus and realized it like 2gb in, stopped it, pulled it off.

Journeyman Geek

hm

SOMETIMES.... testdisk could do the trick

image the SD card first?

Avery

well, with which tool?

Rahul2001

@Avery diskpart?

Avery

unlikely to help

will either need to get the stuff in other ways or send to data recovery and drop a month's salary so ugh

Rahul2001

Open cmd as an administrator.
Run diskpart.
Type in select disk.
Then enter select disk <yourdisk>.
Type in clean.
Then enter select disk <yourdisk> again.
Finally run the command create partition primary.
Open Windows Explorer, right click on your drive, and format it.

@Avery Fixed the same issue with this one, try ^

Avery

6:42 AM

no

look, I had data on this drive

I was supposed to pick e

I picked d

Rahul2001

Oh, wait...

Avery

and it overwrote some/most of it

Rahul2001

You want your data back? Sorry, misread

GetDataBack

Avery

yes

Journeyman Geek

@Avery gnu ddrescue to image I suppose

Avery

6:43 AM

ew lenax

Journeyman Geek

....

Rahul2001

@Avery telegram

Journeyman Geek

or dd

or I donno

Avery

[just joking around I use linux]

Journeyman Geek

actually here, dd would be fine

I just typically prefer the rescue centric variation on the theme

Avery

6:45 AM

also can we take a moment to appreciate how bad windows is in this sense?

I could just dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb or what ever it is and it'd be done

but the gui and everything is just

yessssssssssssss

getdataback is working

Bob

@Avery Really depends how you overwrote... if you literally overwrote the data, it's gone and not coming back. If you just clobbered the partition tables, you have a chance.

Avery

except getdataback found most of the files

I overwrote some of the data, not all

and clobbered all of partition tables probably

at least I can see most files

Bob

Ya you probably just stuffed the partition tables and maybe the filesystem metadata.

@Avery eh, there's nothing stopping you from running dd or any other CLI disk imager. Disk2vhd (sysinternals) would be the semi-official one.

You just don't have one built-in, which is a bit bleh.

Rahul2001

7:06 AM

@Avery yay!

GetDataBack is amazing

Avery

it requires license to copy though

Rahul2001

It has saved me so many times

Avery

and I don't want to pay 79$

Rahul2001

@Avery Uh... telegram?

Bob

@Avery testdisk

Avery

7:10 AM

and everything is magically working and copying

Seth

"I would need to send it in and spend a month of salary" - "I don't want to spend 79$".

Don't forget to actually check recoverable files as you might get 2GB of garbage somewhere inbetween.

Rahul2001

@Seth One month's salary may or may not be more than $79

Seth

That's correct but if you're really making 79$ a month you're either in a wicked economic situation where you either need to spend very little a day or your exchange rate is insane or still live at home/have some other way to pay your bills.

Rahul2001

@Seth Or... part-time job/internship?

Seth

In which case you have alternative means to pay your bills/live at home. Even than 79$ isn't going to get you much in terms of professional data recovery from what I've seen. Last time I had a dead drive and had a look it was already 90€ or something for them to have a look at what they could potentially get you back.

Or is accommodation is the US really that cheap? It's really, really hard to spend less than a couple of hundred €/month for a roof above your head in Germany + something to eat + insurance and all that stuff.

I guess you could already save a bunch of insurances.

Avery

7:24 AM

I don't live in US

Seth

I don't really expect people on SU to be from a country where you earn I don't know ... 50$ a month or something. But this wasn't really about you but about someone who hypothetically is making equal to or less than 79$/mo. That would be ~2.5$/day though that doesn't really mean that such a person wouldn't be just working one hour a month (in which case 79$/hour is rather good I guess). Hm~ more aspects to this than I thought at first.

Avery

the salary mom earns is ~600usd

full time teacher, around 45-50 hours a week

$2.8/hr is good by turkish standards

Seth

7:39 AM

Wow, didn't know there was such a huge gap. If I take numbers I can dig up for Germany a full time teacher would/should earn something around like 2800$/mo (around 16$/hr at 40 hours a week. I'm really not sure about the numbers of hours our teachers have to do). That is all after taxes but without taking the rent for your flat etc. into account.

Oliver Salzburg

2.8K after taxes?

That doesn't sound right

Bob

oh hey, BoUoW will be just WSL soon wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/…

phew

that was such a stupid-sounding name

Avery

interesting chart of average wage around here.

Bob

@Avery mean or median?

Avery

mean

Seth

7:49 AM

@OliverSalzburg you're correct that it's a bit high as it seems to be based on the highest possible wage Source which might not be entirely reliable.

(So around 4k before taxes)

Oliver Salzburg

@Seth Still higher than I would have assumed. Interesting. Good for them :)

Andy K

morning

Seth

Hi

Burgi

morning

@ThatREDACTEDGuy do it, you'll love it

Seth

What is actually the proper way to have special characters in questions? Examples would ``<>`. Should they be replaced by HTML encoded versions?

Burgi

8:02 AM

backticks?

@Rahul2001 "did romance stuff", you sly dawg ;P

Avery

I mean

he also said this:

15 hours ago, by Rahul2001

@Avery uh. perhaps. kinda. maybe.

when I said

15 hours ago, by Avery

@Rahul2001 i shall repeat the question a wise man once asked to you...

which points at

yesterday, by Burgi

@Rahul2001 sex?

which points at

yesterday, by Rahul2001

I did it

Burgi

yup

Avery

so we should totally pressure him for details

Burgi

i'll be honest, i'm really not that interested in the sexual shenanigans of a 16yo

Faheem Mitha

Hi folks. There is an online forum which I was using since last March, but recently I've been unable to post to it. I get a 403 Forbidden. In some cases, I can't even log in. The owner/maintainer doesn't seem very interested. When I reported it to him, he didn't even bother to get back to me till I wrote to him again. And it seems likely it has something to do with the advertising network the site it hooked up to.

Seth

8:10 AM

@Burgi doesn't look like it works. At least `<Example hides everything after <.

Faheem Mitha

Though I can still read the site, and everything appears to be normal, so I'm wondering why it's just me having problem. With different Debian installations and with multiple browsers. Including at least one where I wiped the config clean. Anyway, I was wondering if SU was a suitable forum for such a question.

Bob

@Seth A more complete example of what you're after would be a good idea...

< if you want it to appear in normal text

surround in backticks like < if you want it to appear as code

Faheem Mitha

I haven't tried with anything other than Debian as of yet.

Bob

@FaheemMitha No.

We do not deal with issues with websites.

If it's a site you host, webmasters.se maybe. If it's a site run by someone else, maybe webapps.se. But I think you're simply out of luck with a small forum like that.

djsmiley2k

sounds like the enitre thing is broken

without logs to see why you're getting 403'd, you're screwed

Seth

8:13 AM

The actual example would be decyper the characters in text file because it's gobbling up all the special characters and I'm wondering how you would make them appear as normal text. I guess using HTML entities is the way to go as Bob pointed out.

Bob

@Seth That whole block should be a code block, not a blockquote.

But it's impossible to tell if the initial > causing it to be interpreted as a block quote is actually part of the snippet.

Seth

It isn't it wasn't in the original revision.

As Dave pointed out it really hampers the readability if you mark it as code. My first edit made it code anyway. But there might be other occasions where it might be useful to know how to have them displayed.

Bob

wait no

got confused by the diff

Seth

I just didn't break up the block. It doesn't really matter that much as well I guess. I was just curious. :)

Bob

@Dave What Seth did was correct here. This is, in a loose sense, code and should therefore be in a code block. There aren't any line breaks in the original text. The word wrapping introduced when interpreting this as "text" is incorrect. Wrapping it in a block quote does not make it any more correct. — Bob 8 secs ago

There is no need to break up the block.

Seth

8:19 AM

Well that's also a possibility. Thanks for your input. :)

Rahul2001

Hola!

@Burgi Ha!

It was fun

Dave

Still don't follow this :)

Avery

follow what?

Rahul2001

@Seth Uh, take a look at India prices too

Dave

@Bob, still don't follow this :)

Seth

8:22 AM

If you look at the original revision you will find that it already did look strange, which is why I looked at the source. The problem here is that all those special characters are probably important for the encryption scheme or whatever. On the other hand you're correct that this is pretty much off topic here.

Dave

Ah... now I see

Bob

@Dave You shouldn't be looking at the rendered output. Because the rendered output is incorrect.

It's incorrect because the original author did not understand how Markdown worked, and what they typed/intended is quite different from what is rendered.

Dave

Yes, just seems your comment on the post. Thanks.

Bob

@Dave Of course, none of this helps with the whole off-topic thing :P

Burgi

OMFG...

Seth

8:25 AM

@Rahul2001 for stuff or in regards to wages?

@Rahul2001 telegram

@Burgi hm?

True :)

i raised a ticket about migrating that customer's site and listed all the problems with licensing etc and the CSA has replied ask "whats this for?"

they are meant to be a senior account manager...

no wonder we lost this business

Seth

8:40 AM

Licensing can be a nightmare.

Avery

8:54 AM

hm

for some reason: 1) BIOS doesn't see usb devices or rather, doesn't accept to boot from them

2) booting to them from windows' advanced startup doesn't work, just boots to windows

3) trying to install from inside windows gives the error of "windows 10 install failed" after it gets to the first stage where it restarts

Bob

@Avery CSM or UEFI? Or real legacy BIOS?

Avery

uefi

Bob

@Avery FAT32? Have a Boot directory on the root?

Avery

I assume yes to both because I let rufus do it.

Bob

@Avery ehhhh. really depends which option you selected.

tbh I find the MS MCT works better

Faheem Mitha

9:12 AM

@Bob Ok. Thanks for letting me know.

@djsmiley2k Well, it's working (or seems to be working) for other people. And I don't see any complaints. Though, of course, if you can't get on the site, you can't complain. :-(

For the record, the site is airhostsforum.com.

Which, from casual inspection, appears to be functioning normally.

When I tried with a clean browser, I got a couple of very strange looking popups. Some kind of browser plugin ad. But very aggressive.

I could ask the site admin to check the logs for my IP address, I suppose.

Any suggestions for any other forums that might be able to help with something like this?

Rahul2001

@Seth wages

Seth

9:41 AM

I don't get India as a whole from what little I know about it.

Burgi

9:55 AM

why do we call navigational breadcrumbs "breadcrumbs"? in the story the breadcrumbs failed it was the pebbles that lead the children back home

Avery

10:06 AM

53

A: If USB is not listed in BIOS as a boot option, does that mean the machine can't boot from USB?

I just went through the same pain... but I found a workaround. Plug in your USB drive Turn the Zenbook on Enter UEFI (BIOS) through pressing ESC or F2 In 'Boot' tab: 'Disable Fastboot' (*) Press F10 to save & exit Immediately press ESC or F2 again In 'Boot' tab: your USB drive should be listed ...

this was my solution.

basically "disable fastboot"

why is fastboot blocking booting from USB anyways

DavidPostill

@Burgi Because they used breadcrumbs on the second attempt.

Burgi

@DavidPostill but the birds ate them and they got lost

DavidPostill

@Burgi Shrug. Note the story doesn't say how they found their way home from the gingerbread cottage ...

djsmiley2k

Woo I got full firewall access, and everyhthing

I CAN SEE THE CODE

Burgi

@DavidPostill was it not a random woodcutter that rescues them?

Avery

10:12 AM

well yess

it's partially working

still can't boot uefi, but at least csm is working.

DavidPostill

@Burgi Maybe. The Wiki article doesn't say. I can't be bothered find a copy of the book to check :)

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi it's oddly. Appropriate if you think about it

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek how so?

Journeyman Geek

Cause people get lost anyway

Avery

10:30 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

did I ever say that windows sucks? no? windows sucks.

or rather OEMs suck

"let's make everything custom to get 1% faster speeds and 100% more frustration" -Asus, probably.

Seth

But how does that relate to Windows in general?

Avery

random errors while setup, mostly.

I'm tempted to install lubuntu and move on, but I don't own this device.

Oliver Salzburg

10:46 AM

> An application giving you trouble? Install a new OS why don't you?

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill they ate the witch, and lived happily ever after, after contracting kubu and slowly going insane?

Burgi

11:10 AM

@djsmiley2k what is kubu?

djsmiley2k

I may of spelt it wrong

Kuru (disease)

Kuru is a very rare, incurable neurodegenerative disorder that was formerly common among the Fore people of Papua New Guinea. Kuru is caused by the transmission of abnormally folded prion proteins, which leads to symptoms such as tremors, loss of coordination, and neurodegeneration. The term kuru derives from the Fore word kuria or guria ("to shake"), due to the body tremors that are a classic symptom of the disease and kúru itself means "trembling". It is now widely accepted that kuru was transmitted among members of the Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea via funerary cannibalism. Deceased family...

yup

user226528

11:40 AM

Hey, guys! :)

user226528

Gosh, I am receiving too many "back to school" newsletters today from computer vendors. But the school isn't supposed to start in 20 days, right?

Oliver Salzburg

@FleetCommand I sure hope I don't have to go back to school :(

user226528

@OliverSalzburg Why? Bullies were mean to you?

Oliver Salzburg

I actually make more money now than I did when I went to school

user226528

I didn't make any money at all when I went to school.

user226528

11:46 AM

I do now.

user226528

Who can make money when there are lessons to learn and exams to pass?

Oliver Salzburg

I also found school extremely boring compared to work

@FleetCommand You can sell stuff to schoolmates

Like stuff only you get because you have the right darknet hookup ;D

user226528

That one was forbidden.

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand I suppose that depends on where you live :)

user226528

Definitely. I could swear a lot of things I was forbidden to do was totally okay in the schools that my cousins attended.

DavidPostill

11:56 AM

@FleetCommand Hehe. Here is the current set of school rules for the school I went to. I see they have changed a bit since then - there were no mobiles or girls when I was there :) I probably broke ~~quite a few~~ some of them (but never got caught). The view from the roof is amazing!

user226528

@DavidPostill You probably know the subject that high school students talk about the most, right? I am glad where I work, it is forbidden. Well... It isn't but there is a restricting rule for all aspects of it and on the whole, talking about it is considered bad form. GOOD!

user226528

So, in a way, I am glad I no longer go to school.

djsmiley2k

I was a good boy in school

Doesn't mean I didn't break lots of rules muahhaa

but teachers either decided not to care, because I was good, or didn't believe I'd done something....

Seth

I'm not even sure. Aside from that one time I never had anything to do with our school rules and that one time it was Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.

Afterwards it wasn't allowed anymore to digitally hand it "you have to copy the school rules" punishment work.

djsmiley2k

12:13 PM

lol

Seth

I don't even remember why I had to do that stuff ... I think I disagreed with a teacher or something.

djsmiley2k

rofl

I disagreed with teachers loads

but only when sure I was correct.

Seth

One of the worst (of the few) punishment assignments I received was pretty early on when a teacher had me copy two pages from the bible (DAMN that's some small print!) for moving my mouth. She assumed I was speaking in class (even the person on the same table didn't hear anything).

Oliver Salzburg

@Seth What country was that?

Seth

Why would you disagree if you're not sure that you're correct? The teacher that "thought" us that you get PHP 5 secure by setting safe mode to on did get more than an earful from me. Especially since he argued that "good software" even works with safe mode on.

Germany

Oliver Salzburg

12:17 PM

@Seth You live in Bavaria or something?

Copying pages from the bible wtf

Seth

Nope but that teacher was a crazy lady and it was during "Religionsunterricht" so no that far off for her.

Oliver Salzburg

Ah gotcha

Seth

As I got older I began to somewhat feel sorry for her because I really do think she had good intentions and probably really wanted people to spend some time thinking about God and Jesus and all that. But her teaching really, really wasn't good and as a result there was rarely any pupil that liked her.

djsmiley2k

@Seth Depends on the teacher and such

Oliver Salzburg

I don't see how "spend some time thinking about God and Jesus" are good intentions, but I guess I understand what you mean :P

djsmiley2k

12:24 PM

@OliverSalzburg the road to hell and such?

Oliver Salzburg

Heh

DavidPostill

@Seth You move your lips when you read? ;)

djsmiley2k

@Burgi did you break it again? -- bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40800183

Seth

Sometimes and sometimes I'm just being strange. At that time I was actually giving the answer to something she said without raising my hand and my voice. So in a way she was right that I was "talking" but not in an audible manner and just to myself.

Well that probably sounds stupid ... but anyway.

Burgi

@djsmiley2k nothing to do with me!

this is brilliant: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-40802887

tereško

12:42 PM

yes, yes it is

satibel

@Burgi motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kbz5vv/… nothing new

Burgi

true

still funny though

i don't understand this bitcoin thing

Oliver Salzburg

People think they don't have enough power within the existing system, so they forked it

That's how I read it anyway ;D

Or do you mean the entire "bitcoin thing"?

Burgi

i meant the fork

Seth

They looked at Etherum and wanted to try a fork as well - didn't work out for them either?

(I haven't really followed it)

djsmiley2k

12:50 PM

the funny thing is no one sees the problem

the chain will eventuaqlly become unworkable

it currently takes days to get sync'd

it's only 5 years old.

....

Oliver Salzburg

I thought that was the problem and reason for the fork

...officially

Burgi

i thought the fork had a larger blockchain for... reasons?

XKCD

Since buns range from crepuscular to nocturnal, it's recommended that you enable the scheduled "Do Not Disturb" mode on your phone to avoid being woken by alerts about Night Buns.

Rahul2001

1:12 PM

@XKCD wot no gud comixxx

Andy K

guys, if you have any idea

0

Q: ODBC trace that has been activated but how can I deactivate it?

My colleague has activated an odbc trace to troubleshoot the issue we currently have. But alas he has created another issue e.g the tracing is activated each time we are running the msaccess program even though we have deactivated the log in odbc. We are using an msaccessprogram that works as a...

Oliver Salzburg

1:27 PM

@AndyK Debug and CommLog are set to 0. Without knowing anything about the subject, I wouldn't interpret the registry as logging to be enabled

And the registry path you mention does not reflect the registry path from the screenshot

If that makes a difference

That being said, if there is a registry key named foo.ini, I would instantly start a file search for foo.ini :P

Assuming that there is a file by that name somewhere and it overrides the registry

Or vice versa for that matter

Rahul2001

Jun 14 at 7:42, by Rahul2001

Meh, if someone offers me 200 rep, I'll create a bot in pure batch with curl :P

Andy K

@OliverSalzburg where should I look for the odbc.ini file?

Rahul2001

Offer is still up.

Oliver Salzburg

@AndyK On your hard drive

Andy K

@OliverSalzburg mwa ha ha ha

Oliver Salzburg

1:35 PM

I don't see why that's funny :P

Ben N

@AndyK Also check the non-WOW6432Node branch, in case the application is actually 64-bit

I'm pretty sure you won't find a file named ODBCINST.INI or ODBC.INI; I suspect these settings used to live in INI files but were then moved to the Registry

@XKCD Previously on XKCD

Oliver Salzburg

@BenN Which is exactly why you should be looking for them :P

It takes like 5 seconds to verify

Ben N

Fair enough :)

Oh, and I suppose one could use Procmon to see what files/keys the program is consulting

Oliver Salzburg

I don't have either file btw ;D

Andy K

@BenN I had a look at it and indeed, there are the one set to zero

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