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djsmiley2k

00:00

hi @Rahul2001 how come ur on :O

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k exam in a couple of hours, need internet to study

djsmiley2k

Ah, urgh

what's the exam on?

That REDACTED Guy

It's a haemogram, and he needs internet to study!

djsmiley2k

o_O

Rahul2001

00:19

computer science

Burgi

00:30

nn

Avery

GL @Rahul2001

Rahul2001

@Avery thanks

Avery

also you have a CS lesson? :O

Ramhound

@Rahul2001 Inside joke about a comment that was made about a candle, 2 squirrels, a rubber band and a toilet seat

Rahul2001

@Ramhound 0_0 plz elucidate i wanna kno

Ramhound

00:32

Obviously parts to make a falmming squirrel sling shot

Rahul2001

ah rite

Where does the toilet seat fit in?

Ramhound

But @Mokubai said the toilet seat was the aim sights for a flaming squirrel cannon

NotAdmin Dave

00:53

Got a new toy from work today for home... Did I do good?

It was free

Michael Frank

Nice. I think I have a similar model at home as well. Also free from work.

NotAdmin Dave

My first real gigabit switch ;D

Michael Frank

Yea, only problem is they're noisy. :(

NotAdmin Dave

its not that bad , but yeah its a bit noisey

djsmiley2k

Yeah

I got free one too

v. noisy :/

no DC hidden in my house :(

NotAdmin Dave

00:56

lol

That REDACTED Guy

@NotAdminDave Now you just need 48 Ethernet-enabled devices to attach to it!

Michael Frank

Or 24 cables to plug itself into itself many times.

NotAdmin Dave

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Yep and i need to find some good Wireless IDS software for my cisco mr18 that i recently put openwrt on and im golden here @ home. syworks.blogspot.com/2014/01 is pretty good but its going to take some time to get working since the dependencies wont all fit on 34mb of avail memory. Im thinking of using usbip for storage on it since its supported on the unit presently.

@MichaelFrank: lol yeah

That REDACTED Guy

@NotAdminDave ~~I know some of these words...~~ And here am I with a mini-itxdual Ethernet desktop running pfsense (at home) and having no idea how to configure it

Or why or what I'm doing most of the time

djsmiley2k

pfsense is awesome

but... kinda overkill

NotAdmin Dave

01:03

pfsense is pretty sweet, i've seen it.. Havent used it though.

Id be stuck in the same boat @ThatREDACTEDGuy

djsmiley2k

I setup a site with full failover between two routers using it.

NotAdmin Dave

That REDACTED Guy

@MichaelFrank Think how many packet storms he can have at the same time!

@NotAdminDave That's an actual picture of me at work:

Bob

hm

NotAdmin Dave

That REDACTED Guy

01:07

And by nobody I mean tereško

Avery

oh

that's me on twitter

djsmiley2k

and me when streaming :(

Journeyman Geek

@ThatREDACTEDGuy that is an odd looking dog

That REDACTED Guy

@Avery That's me on facebook. Says something: 2 random likes. Wife ways same thing: 80 reactions, 5 shares, the works.

@JourneymanGeek That's because it's a sea ~~cucumber~~ dog

Journeyman Geek

Then what is this

allquixotic

01:10

That's a sea rat

djsmiley2k

That REDACTED Guy

@allquixotic No, it's not this animal you mention, it's anotter. badum-tsss

djsmiley2k

I found Pirate @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

Arrr

djsmiley2k

with body mounted side cannons o_O

That REDACTED Guy

01:11

@djsmiley2k he calls those mod tools

Journeyman Geek

That be the dreaded pirate waffles

djsmiley2k

bwDraco

On Intel attacking AMD EPYC Naples, WCCFtech does some fact-checking: wccftech.com/…

They cited WCCFtech directly oO

Most of that slide deck is FUD. AMD will find a way around these issues.

djsmiley2k

01:27

there's no 'issues' there

just disagreements

Journeyman Geek

Eh. It's also a marketing fluff graph that means little

bwDraco

I have not seen Intel stoop so low as to release raw, unadulterated FUD content like this.

djsmiley2k

I have

15~ years ago

MMX!

bwDraco

Heh.

djsmiley2k

well more like 20

Journeyman Geek

01:48

..... Thanks. Now I feel ollllllld.

3

ATaco

Although I'm definitely one to prefer Intel over AMD, that graph just makes it look like, "Buy a new CPU every year of fall behind!"

bwDraco

I don't really remember the MMX campaign, but I did know it was a thing back then. Some games of the time prominently called for MMX support for enhanced performance, perhaps with dollars from Intel.

AMD fired back with 3DNow!, which wasn't widely adopted.

djsmiley2k

@ATaco err

that graph says to me 'every year your cpu is another year more useless'

ATaco

Very true.

bwDraco

AMD had called Intel out on artificial product differentiation elsewhere. Here's a slide from the Ryzen PRO press deck:

Avery

02:03

fun fact: you can't mention other companies in your ads in turkey.

you can say you are number one if you have individual reports proving that, but you can't name #2

bwDraco

Here's my response on WCCFtech:

wccftech.com/…

> This is just raw FUD.

AnandTech's benchmarks show that AMD does have issues with L2$ and L3$ latency, which hurts performance in memory-intensive ("pointer-chasing") workloads. EPYC also seems to suffer from lower single-threaded throughput in integer workloads, mainly because it runs at lower clocks. What Intel didn't mention is that the Zen architecture excels at floating-point workloads, where it just runs away from Intel while consuming far less power. Also, the fact that AMD is performing almost as well as Intel's latest processor in many workloads at a fraction of the cost will ste…

djsmiley2k

=)

we're back to the wonderful cpu wars of the 90's

this is gonna be fun :)

underhand tactics a go go

Journeyman Geek

02:21

Until someone loses the consumer wins?

bwDraco

lol

bwDraco

02:36

I've applied to two jobs over the past couple of weeks. The job search is in full swing.

Journeyman Geek

Good luck.

Bob

@bwDraco The comments on that page are ... worse than youtube comments. Not even kidding.

bwDraco

Yeah. Many of those comments are just way off-topic or extremely biased.

Bob

@bwDraco FUD typically implies false information.

Selective info... hm.

bwDraco

We lived through an era where Intel had no meaningful competition. That era is finally over.

Bob

02:45

Though I'd rather look at third-party benchmarks than first-party marketing from either side.

bwDraco

@Bob anandtech.com/show/11544/…

Bob

@bwDraco Yea, I've taken a quick look before. Not had the time to read the whole thing.

Bob

02:59

> Moving down the stack, AMD will offer 24, 16 and 8-core parts. These will disable 1, 2 and 3 cores per CCX respectively

wait. disable 3 cores per CCX?

so... 1 core per CCX?

won't that be horrible latency-wise?

o.O

Rahul2001

@Ave your gravatar ^

Avery

12 hours ago, by Avery

18 mins ago, by Avery

in The Bridge, 9 hours ago, by Memor-X

56 mins ago, by Avery

@Ash yeah, I am aware, it's a bug, will post a meta when I find time.

bwDraco

yesterday, by bwDraco

Oddly enough, it's not a 404, 403, 500, or some other HTTP error. The Firefox dev tools are saying it returned an HTTP 200 OK with a zero-byte file.

Rahul2001

Also try exif.regex.info/exif.cgi It doesn't detect it as an image

Bob

would've throught they'd rather disable entire CCXes...

djsmiley2k

03:02

hmmm

i have my script that runs loads of robocopies

if a robocopy fials, I'd like to store that failure and echo something out at the end.

Bob

though the lower-end parts aren't released yet, so who knows *shrug*

AVX-512 is another "meh"

ATaco

Removing the get parameters fixes it.

djsmiley2k

yeah I already told @Avery this @ATaco

Rahul2001

Goddamnit

ATaco

Ah, sorry.

djsmiley2k

03:06

@Rahul2001 sup?

Rahul2001

I wish people on workplace.se and parenting.se updated their stories with what actually happened in the end and how it all worked out

djsmiley2k

yah

Bob

@bwDraco Have you heard of any dedi hosts buying/offering AMD boxes yet?

I suppose it'll be a few years before they start popping up on IaaS hosts...

They're usually at least 1-2 generations behind on Intel CPUs, never mind a new supplier entirely.

(and Azure is still running olllllld Opterons on their smallest sizes)

Journeyman Geek

03:22

@Rahul2001 everyone dies. The end.

djsmiley2k

'The Workplace' celebrates being the first SE to solve all the problems posted.

SOoooooo

how to capture a failure event from robocopy and store it, for outputting after the commands all finish

basically I run a loop, where the loop calls another ocmmand

actually

I could just echo out 'finished X successfully' statements into a log file. that'd work

Bob

03:39

@JourneymanGeek How grim. I prefer immortality, personally.

djsmiley2k

03:55

set logFile="C:\Log Retrival\backup.log"
echo "Starting backups on %today%" > "%logFile%"

this should work right?

djsmiley2k

04:47

aruggggh

echo "Starting copy for %%A"
echo "Starting copy for %%A - %today%" >> "%logFile%"

ah ffs

fixed it

bwDraco

05:39

le sigh

Firefox Sync broke when I updated my server.

Turns out it needed the libffi devel package (specifically, a header file). This happened while updating the Sync server itself.

Otherwise, a new component in the server's internal Python installation will fail.

Sync is now up and running, but I had to disconnect all devices and start all over again.

The old devices are still listed; they'll age away after a week. I've prefixed the names of the new devices with an asterisk so I can easily distinguish them.

Background: I maintain an in-house Firefox Sync server on my production cloud server. The Firefox Sync server software itself needs to be updated once in a while. It has an internal Python installation separate from the one provided by the OS, complete with its own copy of pip. The Sync server can require new Python packages, which are compiled with the system compiler. Apparently, a package added in a recent update needed the libffi headers.

I had to do zypper in libffi48-devel, then delete the whole internal Python installation and let the Sync server's make script redownload and rebuild it. I then restarted the Apache HTTP Server, disconnected all devices from Sync, and connected everything again.

djsmiley2k

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

why on earth does it have it's own python o_O

bwDraco

Beats me.

I update the server per mozilla-services.readthedocs.io/en/latest/howtos/….

Journeyman Geek

erm

oddly that's common

bwDraco

This is automated through a shell script:

Journeyman Geek

You often use virtualenv for that

bwDraco

05:51

git stash       # to save any local changes to the config file
git pull        # to fetch latest updates from github
git stash pop   # to re-apply any local changes to the config file
make build      # to pull in any updated dependencies
chown -R wwwrun:www *

djsmiley2k

missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing

@JourneymanGeek yah, but doesn't make it ok xD

@bwDraco DId it work?:

bwDraco

It did work.

I hate it when things break at the end of my day.

djsmiley2k

I often find there's config changes where config options are renamed, or added, and so it blows up spectacularly :/

bwDraco

It's almost 2 AM here.

djsmiley2k

wow

:/

it's 6:53am

I can go home soon

\o/

bwDraco

05:55

Authentication is still done through Mozilla's servers.

I have to deal with four devices and five profiles.

Firefox is the only browser I know of that lets me readily configure a custom sync server. When it works, it works really well, but when it fails, it's a administrative nightmare.

@Bob hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax?country=ot

Choice of Ryzen 5 1600X (6C/12T @ 3.6-4.0 GHz) with 32 GB RAM or Ryzen 7 1700X (8C/16T @ 3.4-3.8 GHz) with 64 GB RAM.

Luke

@Bob

@Bob I found my issue. Something to do with the PATH variable. Copied the PATH from a working machine and no more problems.

Bob

06:14

@Luke ...oh, dependencies in the same folder would be in the search path by default.

@bwDraco Oh, now I remember.

No server parts yet though

Luke

07:10

@Bob I found that there is some other software with its installation directory in the PATH variable. This software uses some dlls of the same name.

Bob

07:22

Thundering herd problem

In computer science, the thundering herd problem occurs when a large number of processes waiting for an event are awoken when that event occurs, but only one process is able to proceed at a time. After the processes wake up, they all demand the resource and a decision must be made as to which process can continue. After the decision is made, the remaining processes are put back to sleep, only to all wake up again to request access to the resource. This occurs repeatedly, until there are no more processes to be woken up. Because all the processes use system resources upon waking, it is more efficient...

satibel

@Rahul2001 sorry, I can't, sending a gas mask and strong opium based incense (or chlorophorm) to india is a bit too long :p

Andy K

07:46

morning

Burgi

morning

Andy K

\o @Burgi

Burgi

08:10

welp....

i accidentally nudged someone at a junction :(

Dhiru

08:39

hi everyone

satibel

imgur and @Avery are fixed o/

praise the sun \o/

satibel

09:08

@Burgi don't worry, Tj_max is 105°C

Andy K

09:44

if anyone of you know

0

Q: create users to site with specific language

We've created a website that has 8 languages, Russian, Spanish or English to name a few. Each language has its own version of the website. I'm trying to create users that will be able to only modify the site's assigned languages. For example, if I create a user for the Russian version, that per...

Burgi

@satibel er... what?

@AndyK that sounds pretty simple

satibel

@Burgi maximum junction temperature.

lame joke

Burgi

@satibel the insurance company is dealing with it

Andy K

10:12

@Burgi yes ... ?

Burgi

10:28

have you got a multisite setup?

or is it a single WP installation?

Journeyman Geek

10:59

@Bob this turned up on a random playlist in youtube youtube.com/watch?v=0qgLqk9eBxM not bad

satibel

11:36

@JourneymanGeek not even darude-sandstorm or rick astley-nggyu ? I am disappoint.

Burgi

ffs... all these issues i've been having with gulp, node and NPM are because i didn't have cygwin installed

maybe...

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi why are you running these in Windows?

@satibel excellent.. double trolled

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek because my dev environment is windows...

why is everyone surprised when i say this?

satibel

@Burgi because mac is where it's at. <sarcasm>

Burgi

@satibel i'm not a hipster though...

That REDACTED Guy

11:48

s/didn't have cygwin installed/I'm a winwebdev/

satibel

at least, you got the first part of hipster right : you look like a hobo!
(note that I don't know how you look, it's just a joke.)

Burgi

@satibel sobs STOP BULLYING ME!

That REDACTED Guy

Hey, I thought I had the monopoly on unfunny jokes here.

satibel

@Burgi ok 😞

Burgi

btw your suggestion on my question on webmasters.se is pretty good. i just need to update the question with the IIS logs

satibel

11:58

@Rahul2001 your website should have the picture also take back to the main menu, not just "Rahul's Website".

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek something for you: thedogdryer.com

satibel

just a small ux thing though.

@Burgi dafuq?

Burgi

it just got shared on the social email in the office

satibel

I read that as "thedodgydrier.com"

Burgi

i rofled

DavidPostill

12:01

Jul 10 at 11:45, by DavidPostill

Hahahaha. Some luser in Manchester with the same name as me has just bought travel insurance and given my email address :)

Burgi

@DavidPostill is that still happening?

use up his meercats

DavidPostill

I'm now getting spam from these bozos after calling them yesterday to complain about their stupid customer.

I've unsubscribed my email address. Let's hope that's an end to this nonsense.

@Burgi I didn't understand it the last time you said that ...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek nice

@Burgi all of those work fine on windows

DavidPostill

12:17

lol
> Removing icicles from your dog’s fur in the winter

Andy K

are there tools I can use to do a fast mobile prototype dev on iOS?

satibel

@AndyK baguette++ mobile

:p

mockup.io maybe?

depends what you need exactly.

Andy K

@satibel joke aside, bunch of teens came to ask for help a few days ago

satibel

jokes aside, baguette++ mobile is good for quick prototypes. though it is expensive.

actually there's a free version.

Burgi

12:34

@DavidPostill comparethemeerkat.com

djsmiley2k

damnit guysx

i only just got up

now i want a baguette

Andy K

@satibel wow!!!

Burgi

@djsmiley2k i just got back from greggs

DavidPostill

@Burgi ah

@djsmiley2k I've just finished mine :) Filled with egg salad and ham. Yum!

djsmiley2k

ew lol

satibel

12:35

@djsmiley2k baguette with nutella and chantilly on the tip. wink

Burgi

@satibel @AndyK your president is meeting trump today, how do you think that will go?

Andy K

@Burgi they will shake hands again...

Burgi

yeah i heard on the radio this morning that it was almost like they were arm wrestling last time

satibel

@Burgi macron said he wants to show he will not bow.

Burgi

12:51

i reckon your president could punch trump and easily lay him out cold

satibel

@Burgi "That, that is done." (ça, c'est fait.)

Burgi

13:05

does that mean you'll have a word and get him to do it?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi that seems undignified

ALso it is very easy to blowdry a wauzer youtube.com/watch?v=nlyWY0mXB0Q

tho we use the K9000 sometimes youtu.be/CyZ6CMUWMgs (I think the drying is 2 minutes in or so)

Burgi

i can see you getting very fluffy in a contraption like that

Journeyman Geek

lol

wauzers are only half fluffy. And pretty much shiny.

Oliver Salzburg

13:28

I'm trying to activate a Windows server and the dialog where you do that has been loading for 5 minutes. That is more annoying than the "Please activate Windows now" nag screen

Avery

@satibel it's not

I reuploaded the image in jpg format but it'a still broken in certain sizes

NotAdmin Dave

what size, i'll test

Oliver Salzburg

i.sstatic.net/btMIo.jpg?s=32&g=1 looks broken

Could be intentional though :D

NotAdmin Dave

I tried s=32, 64, 128, 256, 512 and they all work fine.

satibel

broken on phone, works on pc -_-

Oliver Salzburg

13:39

Different people get different CDN nodes

Probably not broken in all caches

NotAdmin Dave

satibel

interesting.

works on normal, not in private.

NotAdmin Dave

oh nice

satibel

ctrl+F5 broke it.

Burgi

gravatar it!

Journeyman Geek

13:49

Eww

Gravarar is slightly nasty too

NotAdmin Dave

could b related to some sort of proxy between you and the url which is performing shitty compression and breaking the img.

Burgi

got a really weird issue with safari...

satibel

@Burgi the antelope is chasing the leopard?

Andy K

@Burgi trump one of the biggest moron around

NotAdmin Dave

according to news sources correct

have you invited trump over for dinner to see what kind of a person he REALLY is by chance?

I'm glad I haven't watched the MSM for well over 10 years.

satibel

13:57

Moron, disused term for a person with a mental age between 8 and 12.

Burgi

@satibel its looking in the wrong location for images

Andy K

@NotAdminDave youtube provided me the chance to have a sneak preview of the person, the Drumpf is youtube.com/watch?v=o21fXqguD7U

@satibel sounds close to his emotional age ...

NotAdmin Dave

When i see something that says 'he said' all i hear are 'cries' of little children whining to their parents.

satibel

well, I'm pretty sure with this definition, it doesn't apply to trump.

... his mental age is clearly under 8

Andy K

@satibel mwa ha ha ha

NotAdmin Dave

14:00

He was practically 8 years old in that recording

Burgi

<img data-modal="image" class="modal-product-img" src="/img/logo.png" alt="product 1">

NotAdmin Dave

Regardless of the entire recording. the whole moral of the whole video is, someone under 8 pitched a fit and posted a video on the internet about some person who said some mean things... Whoopie freeking doo.

satibel

> [moron] was once applied to people with an IQ of 51–70

this is far from trump's

Burgi

so my safari issue... in all the other browsers it takes the path as from the root folder and loads the image correctly http://example.com/img/logo.png

satibel

(which would be in the 140+)

Burgi

14:04

but safari it does http://example.com/page/img/logo.png

anyone else come across that?

satibel

nope.

though I came across a group of notus in a safari.

NotAdmin Dave

@Burgi: perhaps its a stylesheet issue? swapping stylesheet via user-agent requests?

satibel

what's a notus you might ask? it's a sort of black/brown ape about the size of a man that says "NOTUS! NOTUS!" when shooting at a pack of it.

NotAdmin Dave

@Burgi: Something like stackoverflow.com/questions/2182716/… but related to handling specific User-Agent's

@Burgi: jsfiddle.net/rovbr0tj

satibel

@NotAdminDave looks like mine doesn't

NotAdmin Dave

14:15

damn

satibel

it's FF.

NotAdmin Dave

we'll youd only see the swapping likely done in the code behind pages (c# / vb / etc)

where it handles the requests sent from the browser

You could easily test by sending mock user agent requests

satibel

chromium supports it though.

NotAdmin Dave

Does safari have the ability to set custom useragents?

Burgi

it appears to be a specific issue with certain safari builds

NotAdmin Dave

14:18

ah darn that's gotta be it then.

Sure its in the code base somewhere.. gl finding it.

May be related to some browser detection library thats out of date too.

Burgi

@NotAdminDave we aren't detecting browser version

ok it might not be build

bwDraco

14:32

Ryzen Threadripper processors announced: 16 cores for $1000!

NotAdmin Dave

@Burgi: try youtube.com/watch?v=_BVUd-vv12M

and set the user agent to chrome or something and see if it still happens.

tereško

hmmm

$1000 is quite a lot

Journeyman Geek

but ALL THE CORES!

tereško

if it was $800, I would look at buying it .. but 1000 .. hmmm ...

bwDraco

Ryzen Threadripper 1920X: 12C/24T @ 3.5-4.0 GHz. Ryzen Threadripper 1950X: 16C/32T @ 3.4-4.0 GHz. 180W TDP; new Socket TR4 (LGA 4094). Available early August.

Looks like Intel's going to be hit really hard in the workstation market.

Rahul2001

14:46

Hello

bwDraco

We've been seeded with rumors about lower clocks than this. This is fantastic news.

If early EPYC benchmarks are anything to go by, there's probably going to be a lot of tuning needed for optimal performance, but FP-intensive workloads are really going to like Threadripper.

(Floating-point performance has always been a strength of the Zen architecture)

Burgi

@NotAdminDave looks like a crazy caching issue

i've reuploaded a JS file and got the users to force refresh and it has magically started working

Ben N

@Rahul2001 Hi!

@Burgi shouldiblamecaching.com

Burgi

@BenN heh

i swear safari causes me more headaches than IE8

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