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##powers
@NotDog That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
Bob
Bob
morn
@NotDog were you in inebriated when you tried the meatspace version?
##caaaaaat
00:03
That's better. I don't know how the heck I managed to fuck up the import like, 25 times
I only had like one copy of the source so quite how I got 4 different versions imported that were years old is beyond me
@Burgi No...
I don't need to be inebriated to lack hand-eye co-ordination
Or any form of co-ordination
Basically I'm clumsly as f***
@bwDraco eh. What's the use of time to a dog? :p
@JourneymanGeek dinnertime?
More seriously, other than the lack of a need to pull it out, my phone is good enough
@Burgi we do not need a clock for that. Or walkies
Morn' @Bob
@ThatREDACTEDGuy Wow, that's a seriously un-GIF-optimized browser you have there :-O
@Avery I put SEVENTY GIFs on my screen at the same time, my fan isn't even close to starting
CPU is at 35'c and 5% usage. Fans don't start till it hits 55'c+
00:19
@NotDog you've exposed your realname there btw
@Burgi I have?
Oh well
I'm not too bothered, but I'm curious to know how/where
profile name on the top bar of chrome
Oh haha. Well spotted. Spent ages combing over the screenshot and totally ignored that bit
I'm pretty sure most of the regulars know my real name, at least two of the mods have nosied on my Facebook
nods was just an FYI
(roomie forgot my parents were in and woke me up at 6.00 exactly so I could walk him before work)
00:22
@Burgi Thanks.
Without the GIFs my CPU usage hovers at 2-3% so having seventy GIFs on screen only increases my CPU usage by 3-4%. Also increases my laptop's overall power consumption by less than 5%.
@NotDog I forgot it. I do remember it was oddly gender ambigious when I googled it
It's odd how Chrome seems to be known for such bad battery life when it actually appears to be extremely efficient
Maybe it's how much power it's using just from background idling. Chrome appears to be eating about 5-6w, or 50% of my laptop's overall power consumption just sitting there doing nothing. Most of my background tabs are not loaded, and the ones that are, are almost entirely static.
But adding a dozen video-laden pages to those dozen static tabs only increases power consumption by a negligible 10-20%
:-o uhh yeah wow
Just tried the same 70 GIFs with Edge - uses something like 50% more CPU and 50% more power even with no background tabs.
So much for Edge being so much more efficient than Chrome, which Microsoft likes to keep bragging about
Chrome is the best for battery life if you spend all your time online in GIF-laden StackExchange chat rooms.
Bob
Bob
> Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because one of the following protocols (imgur) isn’t associated with any program or is not allowed in this context.
fuck off imgur
they've taken their app bullshit to a new level
00:37
@Bob :-o
wtf is going on outside?
it sounds like someone is using the dumpsters as drums
So you could say they were playing the... "drumpsters"?
##tell 38095964 no
Omigod it works. It works so well
Bob
Bob
01:02
I just built an Ubuntu PPA package in Debian
this feels dirty
root@amaterasu:~# ls
golang-github-lxc-lxd-dev_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_all.deb
lxc2_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_all.deb
lxd-2.14
lxd_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_amd64.buildinfo
lxd_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_amd64.changes
lxd_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_amd64.deb
lxd_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1.debian.tar.xz
lxd_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1.dsc
lxd_2.14.orig.tar.gz
lxd-client_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_amd64.deb
lxd-client-dbgsym_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_amd64.deb
crap
that's a lot of things...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 lxd-client_2.14-0ubuntu3~ubuntu17.04.1~ppa1_amd64.deb
 lxc2
 lxd
 lxd-client-dbgsym
 lxd-dbgsym
WELP
Bob
Bob
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
ow
:O
It might be working!
ok, so installing lxc-client requires --force-overwrite so it can overwrite the bash completions that lxc installs
I should blog this :P
I should start a blog :P
@JourneymanGeek soooo today's the day all the feeds I'm watching decided to post something :P
that timing
@Burgi btw, e10s-multi is now out in 54
01:22
good to know, although i have no idea what that means
e10 is the multi-process mode for firefox, so if one tab crashes, not everything does.
Bob
Bob
@Burgi Sorry, that ping was for @bwDraco
@Bob hmm. Wordpress? ;p
ah
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek hm?
01:24
for the blog
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I liked Ghost :P
tbh the biggest issue was ... finding a name -_-
if anyone wants to suggest one...
"Bob's Blog"
Seriously, Mine's about as boring as it gets ;p
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek lol. and the domain? :D
Bob's Log Blog.
Bob
Bob
01:33
it's drifting somewhere down my todo
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
WP locally won't open on a non-standard port
@Bob lol. This is why having a (crappy) personal brand is handy
lol. Mac comes in, won't boot. Tell them it'll take a while, hold down the power button for 20 seconds, press again. Boots. MY LEGEND GROWS!
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek yea uh... I'm terrible at these things :P
hence the taking suggestions bit
I've long taken pride in my work.
@Nick okay, what the hell?
01:47
@Rahul2001 ???
I just caught up on the transcript, and you should know, you lost my respect
@Rahul2001 eh, dude. That bit of chat was a somewhat excessive bit of drama :(. Not sure if its the best idea to start it up again
@JourneymanGeek sorry
But just being a young guy on the internet, it's a bit of a sensitive topic. Also, when people don't take you seriously because of your age, it really sucks
naw, no foul.
You're welcome to your opinion, (and it would have been perfectly fine as it was happening)
(also, ping me if drama plz)
Bob
Bob
O_O I feel like I missed something big
01:51
or @DavidPostill if he's around.
@Bob look for the bit before I say "I am disappoint" most recently
I considered issuing kicks but they had already mostly moved to a new room and stuff was about to topic-switch here, so I didn't want to risk making it worse
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Ah... I might've been a tad busy trying to kill a certain piece of software with fire. Didn't read up that time.
yup
My parents were on their way back so I was rushing to the airport.
@JourneymanGeek I was awake but my mum had taken my phone away again, so I missed it :p
@BenN also, there were multiple people out of line. So... mass kicks would have been needed.
01:53
Yes, definitely
Timeout might have done the job but might also have made everyone lose their minds, since I can't actually recall that ever happening in this room
lol
Our preferred way is still to just let people know they were out of line.
Hmm... did I just catch the tail of it then?
Some of the stuff was just kinda... dumb/ignorant/insensitive.
@MichaelFrank yeah, partially
Bob
Bob
@BenN Happened once IIRC. Though IMO it's better if it happens from a room regular, as opposed to an external unfamiliar mod hopping in and timeouting the place.
Less chance of friction.
@Bob heh, people like @BenN and @jokerdino probably have the same moral authority for that sort of thing I do ;)
Bob
Bob
01:56
@JourneymanGeek Yea, I don't mean SU/non-SU mods - I mean people who haven't really been here before.
Ah. I'm still not 100% confident about doing moddy things here :)
@Bob ah, yeah ;p
@BenN I think I'd say the same thing people tell me elsewhere, and I tell regulars who happen to be mods here.
@Bob Yea, like my timeout the other day for a picture that I couldn't delete. :|
You know how things work here. Do what you need to do. Let a local mod know (simply as a courtesy). If there's any fallout, we'll help deal .
Bob
Bob
@MichaelFrank I meant room timeouts, which are rather more severe than a single-person timeout.
Not that single-person timeouts are great...
01:58
@Bob Oh
I didn't even know that was a thing.
Bob
Bob
@MichaelFrank It's supposed to be used very sparingly.
The one time it happened in here, that I can't really remember clearly now, was overkill iirc.
I have a vague recollection of that, or at least the transcript from the time.
Bob
Bob
we're not generally that rebellious of a room :P
In other news.
LXD built from ubuntu package seems to be stable so far
\o/
Bob
Bob
but upgrades are going to be a pain
*still waiting for deb package*
root@amaterasu:~# rsync -aAX /tank/lxdfix/rootfs/ /var/lib/lxd/storage-pools/default/containers/files/rootfs/
02:03
Hello!
Finally got hold of my laptop
@Bob eh, usually its one or two people who spark it off.
yeah.
lol
WE CAN DO BETTER.
@Avery eh. Just to note, you're fairly open about it. There's a few other MTF folks around too, so its not just about you ;p
02:08
meh
Okay, guys, let's take a step back and breathe.
@Avery That's okay, but just be aware that this chat is searchable.
@MichaelFrank I am aware.
But I don't want it to be brought up. Sure, you can dig down and find the announcement, but it's just <ugh>.
@Bob chmod 777
@Avery I think that's fair.
02:15
Does anyone know if you can run a cmd window as admin but in a user's profile?
@Ericode Right Click > Run as Admin... ?
@Ericode Yeah. But you will need admin credentials
Or do you mean with your admin creds, but under a user profile. If so, not really.
When you type whoami it is in the admin profile, not the user
Yep. Welcome to Windows ^^;
Bob
Bob
02:17
@MichaelFrank Welcome to most OSes.
Actually, Windows does it 'better' in that sense, since you can have multiple users with admin creds.
I have a script to clear the credential manager but one of the credentials was created by the admin on the users profile. I need to delete that credential but I need admin rights to do it. When I run it as a standard user, everything else is deleted except that 1 credential
Bob
Bob
Linux... as soon as you elevate, you're always root
BSD... diito
nfi what plan9 does
Bob
Bob
@NotDog lol. that's actually not a bad idea :P
@Bob I made one happen once
Bob
Bob
02:18
@JourneymanGeek hurd doesn't exist.
Or maybe I didn't
If you get banned on mobile chat it doesn't say you're banned it says the room has been made read-only which is retarded.
##giphy fire
Cute.
Image not found
@Bob when u gun fix dat bot?
02:23
> You may have arrived here as a result of clicking on a link within an external phishing email.
Click 'Yes, I want to continue' if you are confident this is a reputable site. You will be given access and the website will also be submitted for risk review. If you are not confident about the site or choose not to continue, please close the browser tab or click the Cancel button below.
W.. Wwwait, animated png?!
Bob
Bob
O_O
-5
Q: I have color-treated hair that is prone to breakage. How can I prevent both that and color fading at the same time?

user738380If your hair breaks easily, it's probably either very fine or has been overly bleached and lost its elasticity," says Robinson.

I flagged as spam on reflex but... I don't think that's spam in the promotional sense.
It's probably testing the water.
Bob
Bob
@NotDog Been there for ages, supported by Firefox for ages, but not by other browsers.
@NotDog whatwhatwhat
02:25
@IAmABot is that really an animated png, or a gif with a png file extension? :P
@Bob thats prime GFSE
Bob
Bob
@NotDog when I stop cbfing -_-
@Bob it's working on my mobile chrome :O
@Bob Chrome too
@Bob works on Chrome
@Bob when you stop being unable to be fucked?
02:25
@allquixotic I don't know. But I'm surprised either way
@JourneymanGeek Hey, can I privately message you?
@allquixotic just nearly got added
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic @NotDog @Rahul2001 lol, literally just introduced in Chrome 59
@Rahul2001 I thought he lost your respect. Or was that nick
This one is kinda on-topic... but is still equally "wtf"

https://superuser.com/questions/1219031/how-to-create-fancy-stylish-hacker-like-terminal-output
02:26
@Bob nice
@NotDog the latter
isn't an animated png significantly less space-efficient than an animated gif (at higher quality)?
@Bob my mobile chrome says it's version 58
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic eh, debugging login is a pain. more so at work.
@NotDog *shrug*
I'd honestly prefer gifv (aka H265, right?) as a standard. or BPG.
or VP10 :P
02:27
I prefer cats.
##cat
Blackberry <3
Bob
Bob
> Enabled by default (launch bug) in:

Chrome for desktop release 59
Chrome for Android release 59
Opera release 46
Opera for Android release 46
huh, it's also in Safari
it wasn't supported by anything else two years ago :P
02:30
@Bob guess it's a gif pretending to be a png then. The apng demos on that page don't work in my browser
tbf u2f is like that too
only supported by chrome/ium
firefox will get support very soon though
there's already an extension that does the job
@JourneymanGeek no, I wasn't aware, for me @Avery was just a cute yellow ball. I don't stalk every user to know whatever they are. I may be clumsy, but I don't wanna be mean.
On those words, I'll be going back to sleep, and muting my phone ><
(Remove if appropriate.)
@satibel was? What are they now?
## are you a bot?
@NotDog Absolutely not
@NotDog Don't. Bring. It. Up. Realize that it may be uncomfortable for one (or more) of those involved
02:40
I'm still impressed how amazingly well this bot works with just a one line copy paste from the old bot. I don't have any of quixy or foxy's custom code.
@Rahul2001 if someone doesn't want their cute yellow ball-ness brought up they shouldn't have a cute yellow ball as an avatar.
can I be a cute little yellow cat instead
@Avery I don't like that smile much :/
Your current gravatar is cuter
both are nice imo
I actually have a bunch of them: keybase.pub/ardao/avatars
02:46
Dammit, didn't fully mute the phone. Well, while I'm here, that cat ball is cute, but I prefer the current one.
@satibel go get rest
REST IS IMPORTANT!
I prefer soap.
@Avery your drawings look a bit like theodd1sout.com
@satibel 1) not mine but a friend's 2) yeah, they kinda do. I like his content btw.
Still jaiden #1 but meh
Do you guys know how I can give a cmd admin rights but still be in the standard users profile?
02:54
@Ericode runas /?
'Cause I'm lazyyyyyy.
𝕀 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕜 𝕀'𝕞 𝕔𝕣𝕒𝕫𝕪
Bob
Bob
@NotDog ok, time to try again
root@chatbot:~/dev/SO-ChatBot# nodejs run-headless-webdriver.js
Loaded stackexchange.com/users/login
Logging in...
WARNING: the "submit" command will be depcrecated soon. Please use a different command in order to avoid failures in your test after updating WebdriverIO.
Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore. (not supposed to reach this) { [Error: URL after login incorrect]
  message: 'URL after login incorrect',
  type: 'WaitUntilTimeoutError' }
Cleaning up...
Cleaned up.
Exiting.
@Rahul2001 that is good crypto :p
@satibel When I run as admin, I am not inside the admin profile
@satibel now*
@Rahul2001 with that kinda unicode abuse? It is certain.
03:06
@JourneymanGeek 𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝖚 𝖈𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖆𝖇𝖚𝖟𝖊?
𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓲𝓼 𝓳𝓾𝓼𝓽 𝓹𝓵𝓪𝔂𝓲𝓷' 𝓪𝓻𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓭... 𝓬𝓾𝔃... 𝔂'𝓴𝓷𝓸𝔀... 𝓫𝓮𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓪 𝓹𝓵𝓪𝔂𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓾𝓰 𝓷' 𝓪𝓵𝓵
@Ericode what are you trying to do? If you need to run an elevated command as a non admin user, you'll probabla need some workaround like loading that users's registry (ntuser.dat)
🅐🅡🅖🅗
ⓗⓔⓗⓔ
🄣⒣⒤⒮ ⒤⒮⒩'⒯ ⒞⒪⒪⒧, ⒨⒜⒩.
@Avery No, but it's fun!
03:09
@satibel I have a script to clear the credential manager. One of the credentials on the users profile is created by the admin automatically and I need to clear this credential also. I am able to clear all the credentials on the admin profile because he has admin rights but on a standard users profile, I can't clear it unless I do it manually
@Rahul2001 N̐̈O̐̈!̐̈ ̐̈I̐̈t̐̈ ̐̈d̐̈o̐̈e̐̈s̐̈n̐̈'̐̈t̐̈ ̐̈d̐̈i̐̈s̐̈p̐̈l̐̈a̐̈y̐̈ ̐̈o̐̈n̐̈ ̐̈m̐̈y̐̈ ̐̈p̐̈h̐̈o̐̈n̐̈e̐̈,̐̈ ̐̈a̐̈n̐̈d̐̈ ̐̈t̐̈h̐̈a̐̈t̐̈ ̐̈t̐̈o̐̈t̐̈a̐̈l̐̈l̐̈y̐̈ ̐̈d̐̈o̐̈e̐̈s̐̈n̐̈'̐̈t̐̈ ̐̈h̐̈a̐̈v̐̈e̐̈ ̐̈t̐̈o̐̈ ̐̈d̐̈o̐̈ ̐̈w̐̈i̐̈t̐̈h̐̈ ̐̈m̐̈y̐̈ ̐̈p̐̈h̐̈o̐̈n̐̈e̐̈'̐̈s̐̈ ̐̈s̐̈c̐̈r̐̈e̐̈e̐̈n̐̈ ̐̈b̐̈e̐̈i̐̈n̐̈g̐̈ ̐̈d̐̈e̐̈a̐̈d̐̈.̐̈
and opening screens of iphone 5s are hell
and its not even getting ios 11
and the battery life is hell
and it doesn't support 4g
I should get a new phone.
Also, the screen is too small.
yes.
and guess what'll happen?
certain someone (mom) who spends money to very noble causes (like do a 300$ dog or a 400$ phone after she threw the old one to ground with anger) will see the new phone as useless and will just tell me to get it repaired to which I will reply by getting the tools myself and by fixing it myself.
03:15
So ensure it's unrepairable?
like on one hand I don't want to be an economical thingy on her
@Avery I've been asking my mum to get my shattered screen fixed for 6 months and she finally agreed yesterday but then suddenly went out of town a couple of hours ago :/
on another she spends money randomly so I don't know
@Rahul2001 ugh
@Rahul2001 Maybe she took it to get fixed? You did say she had your phone.
6 months, damnit
@MichaelFrank She left it at home
03:17
@Rahul2001 Send it to her with a note suggesting that she forgot to take it with her. ;)
@MichaelFrank Repair shop is exactly one block away, she's at the other end of the country
Bob
Bob
invalid email address? what?
@Bob admin@[80.123.45.67] is not invalid according to the rfc, but is invalid to most mail services.
@Avery well 100$ repair or 800$ phone :p
Bob
Bob
@satibel nono, that's the error message SE is giving me :P
Bob
Bob
03:28
weird how it works if I'm not headless
Tbf, example.com is invalid.
sigh my predecessor arranged for a CCTV install at 5pm - when I am supposed to leave work
Told him "Its when I leave work. I'm ok with sticking around for a while but i can't stick around late all the time
Bob
Bob
@satibel that's post-login
@JourneymanGeek ... ... :S
CCTV installs should be facilities not IT anyway
They should be...
Facilities problem.
Just to make that clear.
03:32
@satibel a dead phone.
hmm. also, anyone good with macs?
I have an MBA that won't power up. It did before
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek @allquixotic?
@JourneymanGeek geek bar
tried SMC resets..
wait no
Bob
Bob
03:32
@JourneymanGeek tried holding it longer? :D
what was the thing on apple stores
I got it to boot twice, battery seems full...
@Avery Time to upgrade :-)
Genious bars ;p
Bob
Bob
could be a dodgy connection
03:33
@bwDraco sure, I was mostly replying to satibel: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/38098201#38098201
Well, I'll go back to sleep, I'll wake from my slumber in 2 hours.
@Avery genius bars
ah
@satibel btw, I added a sandbox to the proxy in the challenge
Bob
Bob
03:55
hm
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
Bob
Bob
:O
@satibel well more like 30$ repair or 300$ phone.
Bob
Bob
04:14
!!info
@Bob I awoke on Wed, 14 Jun 2017 04:13:10 GMT (that's about 56 seconds ago), teleported 8 goats
Bob
Bob
weeeeeeird
@JourneymanGeek That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
hm
!!help
oh, whatever
I will poke the bot later
Bob
Bob
04:18
!!info
!!tell 38098658 baroo
Bob
Bob
phew
._.
Not imported commands at that time?
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek kinda. it wasn't listening properly in the other room :P
I codez good
            .setValue('#email', config.email)
            .setValue('#password', config.password)
            // for some reason the first setValue does nothing *in Firefox headless*
            .setValue('#email', config.email)
            .setValue('#password', config.password)
idk
@allquixotic ^ bodgy fix
it's not timing dependent - I waited like 2 mins and checked it existed. also, setting it twice in a roll does nothing. you have to focus in, focus out, then set...
._.
and that hunk of junk boots now
I have. No. Bloody. Idea. What. I. Did.
Bob
Bob
04:28
@JourneymanGeek hi! :P
I quite literally went through every cargo culty step short of knocking all 4 corners of the macbook, and sacrificing a goat
@ChatBotJohnCavil YOU'RE BACK!
!!are you back?
@Rahul2001 Nope
!!rcelebrate
04:37
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYYYY
May the lords praise @Bob and @allquixotic
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Sounds like a loose conn...it'll probably break again soon :P
@NotDog Yeah, found the link somewhere on reddit, so linked it here. I never knew the name either :P
04:56
@Rahul2001 all hail Root Access

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