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15:00

Yeah, though in a sense that Indian Empire was due to the conquest of the Mugals, (and that's another interesting historical sidenote)

bwDraco

@Burgi: reading the transcript a bit and found this:

Apr 15 at 13:56, by Burgi

@DavidPostill its a screw going in, not coming out but the techniques are similar i guess

Apr 17 at 21:51, by Burgi

the HORRORS OF IKEA

Burgi

i stand by my statement

@bwDraco was there a point?

bwDraco

@Burgi One thing you should note with IKEA screws. Most screws with a cruciform drive are actually Pozidriv. They are marked with a cross shape on the screw head.

A lot of folks use Phillips screwdrivers; while this kinda will work, you'll have trouble applying full torque to the screw and may damage it.

Burgi

isn't pozidrv japanese?

bwDraco

No, no. You're confusing it with JIS.

List of screw drives

A screw drive is a system used to turn a screw. At a minimum, it is a set of shaped cavities and protrusions on the screw head that allows torque to be applied to it. Usually, it also involves a mating tool, such as a screwdriver, that is used to turn it. The following heads are categorized based on commonality, with some of the less-common drives being classified as "tamper-resistant". Most heads come in a range of sizes, typically distinguished by a number, such as "Phillips #00" or "Torx T5". These sizes do not necessarily describe a particular dimension of the drive shape, but are often arbitrary...

> Attempting to use a Phillips screwdriver bit is likely to cause damage because the design difference between them is fairly significant even though at first glance they appear to be very similar. A Phillips driver has an angle on the flanks, a pointed tip and rounded corners. The Pozidriv screwdrivers have straight sided flanks, a blunt tip and additional smaller ribs at 45° to the main slots. The Pozidriv was designed specifically to allow much greater torque to be applied because of its more positive engagement.

Burgi

15:14

the table is built now

bwDraco

The next time you buy IKEA furniture, be sure to get some Pozidriv bits for your drill/driver. It'll save you a lot of headaches.

Burgi

and tbh it is poor screw design if they can't make them more distinctive

bwDraco

Did the screw head look like this?

IIRC most IKEA screws are like this.

Burgi

i have no idea

allquixotic

@Bob what does the fox say?!

Burgi

15:18

that one

@bwDraco step 4 ikea.com/ms/en_US/customer_service/assembly/N/N20104718.pdf

from the picture they look like phillips

bwDraco

@Burgi Post a picture of the hinge screws.

Burgi

i'm in work dude

bwDraco

Oh, okay.

Once you get home, let me know. If there are tick marks in the screw head, it's Pozidriv.

7 mins ago, by bwDraco

Burgi

i'm 97% sure they didn't have the posidriv thing

i have had alcohol since april

bwDraco

Also, did you use the clutch on the drill? It's there to help you get the torque right.

djsmiley2k

15:24

ikea.com/gb/en/products/tools-fittings-curtain-rails/…

they don't actually say xD

Burgi

@bwDraco drill?

they do?

bwDraco

nvm.

Burgi

:38054590 i used a hammer ;)

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k This is in fact Pozidriv. Close examination of the image shows the tick marks on the screw heads.

If you're using power tools, get a drill/driver or an electric screwdriver with a clutch. It's indicated by a set of numbers on a rotating ring behind the chuck and lets you limit the torque when driving screws.

djsmiley2k

Soooooooo

just use a hammer

;D:

bwDraco

15:29

lol

Burgi

the BFH

bwDraco

15 mins ago, by bwDraco

The next time you buy IKEA furniture, be sure to get some Pozidriv bits for your drill/driver. It'll save you a lot of headaches.

Burgi

it was really warm that day and my hands had heated up the screws even more

after i left them an hour to cool they went in ok

DavidPostill

@bwDraco @Burgi All of the online refs I can find say Ikea fastenings need either a flat or philips screwdriver.

bwDraco

@DavidPostill Well, it's actually Pozidriv.

Burgi

15:31

plot twist, my drivers are actually posidriv... ;)

actually i have no idea

bwDraco

@Burgi If they're marked PZ (e.g. PZ2), then they are.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Those aren't the same screws they use for furniture assembly. That's a kit for hanging stuff on the wall.

bwDraco

You might want to take a closer look at the screws on your IKEA furniture...

DavidPostill

bwDraco

@DavidPostill Sure, but last time I checked, they're Pozidriv in most cases.

22 mins ago, by bwDraco

A lot of folks use Phillips screwdrivers; while this kinda will work, you'll have trouble applying full torque to the screw and may damage it.

DavidPostill

15:34

Burgi

the holes are never exact

DavidPostill

> Screwdriver
Screwdrivers are handy tools for any type of furniture assembly, particularly IKEA items. Flat-head and Philips screwdrivers should be part of the tool kit.

bwDraco

Then whoever wrote this isn't aware that these are Pozidriv, not Phillips.

Burgi

> Article by Ikea Ikeasson

bwDraco

32

Q: What kind of IKEA screw is this?

This is a screw on the side of an IKEA drawer. On line videos say turn it left or right to level the front of the door. Instructions are to use a Phillips screwdriver. It's not a Phillips head and the local hardware store doesn't recognize it.

kitchens

Burgi

15:38

that is proper mangled

bwDraco

Again, notice the Pozidriv tick marks

Burgi

yes but it looks they used a bulldozer to get it in there

djsmiley2k

I know that screw shape

it's 'I used pliers and crushed it!'

bwDraco

In the UK, Pozidriv should be pretty common, but check your tools before you use them to assemble your furniture.

Burgi

@bwDraco i used this technique:

djsmiley2k

15:41

k wt f

AFTER I put in teh username and password

then the thing freezes on me

maybe because DNS is screwed, I dunno anymore

DavidPostill

Hmm. Just found this:

Why do Ikea screws always strip?

> Unfortunately, just about everyone, including Ikea employees, have no idea that every single screw provided with Ikea furniture and Ikea kitchen cabinets is actually a Pozidriv screw and that when you use a standard Phillips drill bit with these screws, it will cam out and strip the screw.

So @bwDraco it looks like you may be correct :)

Burgi

so i am going to have to crawl around on the floor to take photos?

DavidPostill

> They don’t even sell Pozidriv bits at the store. I would love to see Ikea include these drill bits with their furniture, or at least make it known that each and every screw they distribute is actually a Pozidriv screw.

Burgi

i'm almost certain they don't have the posidriv symbol on them

DavidPostill

lol

> The lady I spoke with (she had fluent English) said that most people don’t need to worry about preserving the screw threads because they don’t dissassble, but instead throw it away and buy new Ikea.

Burgi

15:50

i bet you are all on the edge of your seats waiting for the next exciting episode of the ikea screw saga

DavidPostill

@Burgi Yes. I'm waiting for pictures of Burgi's stripped screw head (that's 3 risque words I managed to fit in there) ;p

Burgi

oooh! suit you sir!

DavidPostill

Q: What did the actress say to the chauffeur?
A: Would you like a screwdriver?

Burgi

was his name phillips?

DavidPostill

lol

And the chauffeurs reply:
I'm sorry M'dam, I'm not allowed to drink and drive :)

Burgi

16:03

i think we are about to get flagged for terrible puns

DavidPostill

@Burgi No his name was posiDrive

Burgi

i figured as much

bwDraco

amazon.com/DEWALT-DW2069-1-Inch-Pozi-Drive-3-Piece/dp/…

Look at the reviews.

Burgi

those reviews look like they were written by the seller

DavidPostill

16:20

What? "uncommon size and type" That's complete rubbish. Every set of bits I've ever bought has included PZ1, 2 and 3 (as well as PH1, 2 and 3).

bwDraco

16:40

@DavidPostill None of my sets here have Pozidriv bits.

They're not exactly common in the US.

Cabinetry, yes, I do see Pozidriv screws. But that's more of a trade-specific thing.

DavidPostill

That's strange since they were invented by a US company:
> Development of a screw that would not "torque out"--the Pozidriv screw--came as the result of a joint effort of American Screw Company and the Phillips Screw Company.

bwDraco

Yeah. It is strange. Perhaps because it was proprietary (US patent), it saw very limited uptake here in the US.

This is how patents, when done improperly, kill innovation.

DavidPostill

TIL. There is also a Supadriv screw head.

> The Supadriv (sometimes spelled incorrectly as "Supadrive") screw drive is very similar in function and appearance to Pozidriv—indeed, the two are often thought to be identical—and is a later development by the same company. The description of the Pozidriv head applies also to Supadriv. While each has its own driver,[23] the same screwdriver heads may be used for both types without damage; for most purposes it is unnecessary to distinguish between the two drives.

Pozidriv and Supadriv screws are slightly different in detail; the later Supadriv allows a small angular offset between the sc…

bwDraco

I have one of those Craftsman 100-piece sets and it doesn't include a Pozidriv bit. It includes a large number of Phillips bits, mostly in #2; these bits tend to wear out quickly.

I have a separate DeWalt 25-pack of Phillips #2 bits and have gone through a few.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco PH2 bits will get stripped if you use them with PZ2 screws.

bwDraco

16:53

(bought the latter because it had hex bits in various sizes, which come in handy and can often be used in a drill in place of an Allen wrench, making furniture assembly much easier)

@DavidPostill Well, that's why I'm getting PZ bits if we get IKEA furniture.

2 hours ago, by bwDraco

The next time you buy IKEA furniture, be sure to get some Pozidriv bits for your drill/driver. It'll save you a lot of headaches.

We've never actually purchased IKEA furniture before, but we've assembled countless Sauder furniture pieces. None of these used Pozidriv.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco I'm glad we got that all sorted :)

ROODAY

To do a clean install of windows, I just make some installation media, go through the install, and have it reformat my ssd when installing, right?

bwDraco

@ROODAY Yup. Been there, done that.

Father's old desktop had Windows 10 installed this way, using the retail Windows 10 flash drive.

ROODAY

Cool, my only concern then is will it touch my other hard drives? i have a couple hdds that have a lot of data, will the clean install leave those alone, and will the new windows install be able to access them easily?

bwDraco

It shouldn't. The partitioning tool lets you decide.

ROODAY

16:56

Ok, thanks!

bwDraco

howtogeek.com/197647/…

ROODAY

When it reaches that point, do I click format/new or does simply selecting the hardrive reformat it for the install?

(its been a long time since i had to install windows)

bwDraco

Delete all partitions on the drive, then create a new NTFS partition.

ROODAY

Ok, thanks!

Ah I just realized something, if I have programs installed in my other HDDs, will the new windows pick them up? Or will they have to be reinstalled?

I assume all the PATH and registry links will be gone

bwDraco

17:14

gamesradar.com/…

I will hold off until the funds for Astaroth are available and the system requirements are known.

(I'd like to align the build to the system requirements)

Rahul2001

@ROODAY The exe files should work for most (regular, non-licensed) apps, but you will not find start menu shortcuts and the such, and will have to manually locate the executables

ROODAY

Do any tools exist that can crawl a directory and create shortcuts and whatnot?

Rahul2001

Registry entries will also be broken for the apps

djsmiley2k

@ROODAY I have no clue whaty you're looking for

Rahul2001

@ROODAY Usually it is recommended that you just re-install the apps

ROODAY

17:20

Like lets say I have a hard drive G:, and in it theres a Program Files folder. Does anything exist such that I could point it to G:\Program Files and it would automatically make start menu shortcuts and whatnot for all the programs?

If not I guess reinstalling is the only way

Rahul2001

@ROODAY One thing which you should be able to do is backup the software folder (rename it), re-install, replace the new application directory with the old one

ROODAY

Is that for maintaining user settings and whatnot?

Rahul2001

So for example, rename G:\Program Files\Google Chrome to GoogleChromebkp, then reinstall to G:\Program Files\Google Chrome and replace the new folder with the backed up folder

@ROODAY Yes

@ROODAY nope, I don't think so. You could ask on software recs

ROODAY

Ok, thanks for all the info!

Rahul2001

@ROODAY no problem :)

djsmiley2k

17:29

so that's good

my computer never failed to boot...

because it nmever actually restarted

bwDraco

@Rahul2001 Limited disk space?

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Nope, helping out @ROODAY

bwDraco

@ROODAY Small SSD?

Burgi

@bwDraco it appears i owe you an apology for the ridicule and derision i imbued on you earlier

bwDraco

It's okay. I honestly thought you didn't know.

Besides, I kinda knew you were joking.

Burgi

17:43

DavidPostill

@Burgi Yep. Stripped posidriv screw heads :)

bwDraco

@Burgi Yes, that's Pozidriv.

While it's not clear, there does seem to be a bit of stripping.

Boris_yo

Can I use Samsung charger to charge power bank?

Burgi

@bwDraco i was wrestling them for ages

afk food

bwDraco

@Boris_yo Most likely; it supplies 2A @ 5V. The 9V mode is only enabled after a proprietary handshake, so it won't drive wrong voltage into your power bank.

This is a Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger. I would be very surprised if you ran into a problem with it.

@Boris_yo Why the Russian text, though...

allquixotic

17:57

indiegogo.com/projects/…

tempting, and they appear to know what they're doing

(smartphone projects are significantly less risky, especially when the software is just Android, because it's almost as easy as assembling a desktop these days)

Rahul2001

@bwDraco The same is also true for Moto Turbo chargers? I never knew about the proprietary handshake, although I guess that's how it identifies the Turbo charger (which, btw, supplies up to 12V)

bwDraco

@Rahul2001 Different handshake, but most likely yes.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco okey dokey, thanks :)

@allquixotic I hate that indiegogo is such a heavy website :/

bwDraco

I have access to a couple of Motorola TurboPower chargers, but I haven't really tested them. They came with my parents' phones.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco They're really fast

bwDraco

18:00

I think it's Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 but I don't have any devices that use this charging protocol.

My OnePlus 3T is completely different:

Apr 5 at 23:41, by bwDraco

As a refresher, Dash Charge is OnePlus's proprietary charging protocol—specifically, an implementation of OPPO VOOC—in which the charger feeds up to 4A directly to the battery at its own voltage, instead of driving 5V (or more, e.g. Qualcomm Quick Charge) and stepping down in the phone. This approach requires both a proprietary charger and a proprietary cable, but by not having to convert voltage in the phone, it generates less waste heat enabling faster charging and less throttling under load.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Mine don't have 'em

bwDraco

I'm pretty sure your phone implements Qualcomm Quick Charge, too.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Phillips Screw Company == associated with the home appliance Phillips company?

@bwDraco Not entirely sure, but I think so

bwDraco

If so, no worries.

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 No

djsmiley2k

18:03

IS IT LIKE YAMAHHHHA

per user settings are normally in /application settings/ within your personal folder, c:\users\user_name\application settings\

Not Dog

20:55

@Bob What phone would you buy?

@Bob vlpn.org? :-o

OTOH at least my misdirected vulpine email got discarded eventually, Google said it couldn't be delivered because timeout so at least I don't have to wonder if some confused fox is staring at those screenshots I meant to send you wondering wTF

allquixotic

@NotDog meow

accent on the me

Not Dog

@allquixotic :-O

Braiam

21:16

@JourneymanGeek still using veeam?

Feeds

1

Q: Why do I need 15 reputation to mark an answer correct and 50 to add a comment?

So I found the answer I was looking for, better than the "community-accepted" answer, but it had 0 votes and I couldn't mark it as my answer since I needed 15 reputation, and I couldn't add a comment either, so I can provide zero visible feedback about the answer that worked for me. https://supe...

feature-request

allquixotic

21:44

and nubcake got bombarded with answers from 2 mods and a regular

Ben N

Heh, I just threw in another regular answer

Considered abandoning my draft after seeing your answer, but I mentioned post feedback, which nobody else did, so I went ahead

DavidPostill

@allquixotic +1 for writing the longest answer ;p

allquixotic

@DavidPostill yay I win the typing contest as the LGITW (longest gun in the west)

DavidPostill

Yay. Repcapped :)

Burgi

22:02

congrats

@allquixotic TWSS

Journeyman Geek

@Braiam yup

Burgi

so it turns out the contractors who built my flat took some shortcuts

allquixotic

surprise, surprise...

Burgi

remember the issue with hob?

turns out rather than have a safety power switch it is plugged into a normal socket that is hidden behind the oven

the oven is also 10mm too long and has been crushing a GAS PIPE against the power socket

Braiam

@JourneymanGeek How it goes for a small office (10-12 systems, only light work (for now))?

Burgi

22:12

and the slight rocking motion caused by opening and closing the oven door has wriggled the oven against this pipe and it flicked the power switch off

Braiam

(I'm looking for backup solutions for our office)

Burgi

the "fire box" that surrounds the oven has been seriously bent when they fitted the oven so while it isn't condemned its "at risk"

i have to call the landlord in the morning to find out the next move

sigh

Journeyman Geek

22:28

@Braiam should work fine. I backup to a Nas SMB share

DavidPostill

@Burgi :/

Burgi

imgur.com/gallery/SIdtv

Journeyman Geek

23:02

theverge.com/2017/6/12/15783170/…

Bob

@NotDog if I needed a new one right now, not specifically replacing an existing phone? probably S8+, possibly V20

Well, for a primary :P

@NotDog had that domain for ages, never used. not sure why anymore.

Not Dog

23:16

Ewww, S8

Hmm V20 looks nice

Not as nice as an Xperia XZ Premium, but probably a lot cheaper

3CA and dual sim though. Mmm

£250 cheaper than the Xperia, damn

Not Dog

23:39

Zomfg, how did I not notice Taylor Swift reappearing on Spotify

!!taytaytay

!!TAYTAYTAY DAMMIT

Do i have to do everything myself?

I Am A Bot

Journeyman Geek

@NotDog yes.

I Am A Bot

23:54

@JourneymanGeek can you unfreeze bot overflow?

Journeyman Geek

Hm. Yes and no.

Gimme 10 I'm on my phone

Ben N

I got you

I Am A Bot

@BenN Thanks!

Bob

@NotDog O_O when'd that happen

@NotDog yea, but I'm iffy about LG after the bootloops on G4

that's what made me get a S7

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