Root Access

Faheem Mitha

00:00

I seem to record that there are problems if one tries to install GRUB to the MD device. The correct thing to do seems to be to install them to each physical drive constituting the MD device.

Sorry, that should have been "I seem to recall", not "I seem to record".

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha no

Its determined by the boot loader priority in the bios/firmware.

and the smart money here would be to have a seperate /boot?

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure what bit you're responding to. But isn't that what I said?

I.e.

> The choice of which GRUB takes control on boot is determined solely by the MBR, correct?

Oops, I meant to write BIOS, not MBR.

Journeyman Geek

No

yes

Well, if you say the wrong thing... ;p

Faheem Mitha

Sigh. Sorry about the confusion. I guess I'm still not fully awake yet.

Hi @JourneymanGeek. Are you still in SG?

Curious. This user used to be a mod, but hasn't been here since 2010?

Journeyman Geek

00:29

@FaheemMitha yes

@FaheemMitha yeah, was an early mod, retired. It happens

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Hmm. Hasn't visited any of the sites since 2010. Seems strange to me.

Journeyman Geek

too busy, lost interest...

who knows? People actually have lives outside SE, allegedly ;p

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Of course. But even those people occasionally look stuff up. But maybe he just wasn't logged in. Then the system wouldn't register his presence.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek I see you are off to my right. About 2 1/2 hours ahead. Still early, though.

Just past 6 am here.

Journeyman Geek

00:46

yup

Burgi

00:57

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i'm pished

Faheem Mitha

01:56

@Burgi You should say "How wasted am I?"

Not Dog

02:12

!!Bob

bwDraco

As if this laptop's thermal issues aren'tn enough for me to deal with...

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 10.0.10240.9 AMD64
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Windows\Minidump\061017-7921-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available


************* Symbol Path validation summary **************
Response                         Time (ms)     Location
Deferred                                       SRV*E:\sysdebug\debug-symbols*msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*E:\sysdebug\debug-symbols*msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

This tells me very little as to which driver is at fault.

Fuhgettaboutit.

allquixotic

02:53

@bwDraco what laptop?

bwDraco

This is my main laptop.

allquixotic

@ThatREDACTEDGuy boredom

@bwDraco is it one with a 1070 or 1080? :P

bwDraco

I have not yet upgraded.

I long for the day when I push the power button on Astaroth for the first time...

Journeyman Geek

03:09

@bwDraco whocrashed is nice for mysterious errors like this

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Who or what is Astaroth?

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha chat.stackexchange.com/…

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Oh, a new computer.

bwDraco

Planned Ryzen desktop build. The name comes from a demon in the Ars Goetia.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Are you going to build it yourself?

Wow, expensive.

bwDraco

03:18

@FaheemMitha Yeah. The current plans can be found at pcpartpicker.com/list/dN8XGf

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco I see them. Personally I'm partial to the Lian-Li aluminium cases.

Otherwise it looks pretty good. Though pricey.

How old is your current machine?

I guess Asus makes pretty good hardware.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha About 3.5 years old. A bit of a mistake a while back means that this system is due to be retired soon.

Apr 18 at 19:39, by bwDraco

Dammit. Damaged one of the heatsink mounting holes while tightening it on my laptop's motherboard. Now it's throttling when all cores are under load.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ah. Sorry to hear that. 3.5 years isn't really that old.

@bwDraco So that machine is a laptop, but your new machine will be a desktop?

bwDraco

Yeah. I have a much cheaper (but very slow) laptop as a companion system.

May 16 at 0:08, by bwDraco

Heck, this laptop is slower than my phone (OnePlus 3T: Snapdragon 821, 6 GB RAM).

Faheem Mitha

Ah. Where are you located, may I ask?

bwDraco

03:23

psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Lenovo_Flex_4_11?M=80U30001US

@FaheemMitha New York City.

Faheem Mitha

Ah, a Lenovo. The only laptop I have is a 10 year old Thinkpad. Still running - I rarely use it.

@bwDraco Ah. The Centre of the Universe. :-)

I'd never try to do hardware work myself.

The Thinkpads were still pretty good 10 years ago. I don't know what they are like now. And they were fantastic when then were still part of IBM.

So does:

Apr 18 at 19:55, by bwDraco

I can't get support or funding until the renovations are complete. We're stalled finding someone to do the work we need, and the problem is that dishonest contractors seemingly outnumber (by a huge margin) good ones.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha The T-series is still very good, though not quite on the same level as the pre-Lenovo ThinkPads from what I've heard

Faheem Mitha

Also refer to NYC?

@bwDraco pre-IBM?

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha Yeah. However, we did find a contractor, and renovations are underway.

Faheem Mitha

You mean pre-Lenovo?

bwDraco

03:27

Corrected.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco We have similar problems here. Though I live in a very different place.

bwDraco

Massive bathroom overhaul, new flooring, etc. Not at liberty to go into further detail, though.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ah. That sort of thing must be super-expensive over there.

bwDraco

Yeah.

Faheem Mitha

Regarding the desktop. Wouldn't it be easier to have someone put it together? Last I checked the places that do such things don't charge much.

@bwDraco Wooden floors or tile is better than carpet. I hate carpet.

bwDraco

03:30

@FaheemMitha We're getting either hardwood or bamboo (not sure). Can't really go into detail.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok.

bwDraco

It's currently carpeting throughout. All of it will be replaced.

Faheem Mitha

Carpets suck. They're unhygenic and high maintenance.

bwDraco

Also, my bedroom needs most of its furniture replaced.

Faheem Mitha

Well, that's my opinion, anyway.

bwDraco

03:32

@FaheemMitha We think so, too.

Faheem Mitha

And they're particularly bad choices for dusty dirty places like big cities.

So, are the Samsung Evo series are good as anything at a consumer level? I just bought two. Still need to get them set up. Was considering the Pro series, but the folks on U&L said they weren't worth it.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha Samsung PRO SSDs are generally not worth it for regular consumers. If it's an enthusiast system, maybe, but it's too expensive for mainstream systems.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok. That's what I was told. Though here the price difference is not that great. A difference of 30% over the EVO, approximately.

bwDraco

EVO SSDs are generally excellent all-rounders. They do use TLC NAND, but it's better than most and Samsung's 3D TLC NAND is essentially the best out there.

The PRO drives use very expensive Samsung 3D MLC NAND.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Significantly better than Crucial and Kingston?

bwDraco

03:37

@FaheemMitha It's better than most value-oriented SSDs out there, though it costs a bit more.

Faheem Mitha

They're both available here, and are much cheaper than the EVOs.

bwDraco

What Crucial models?

Faheem Mitha

But I went with the EVOs, because cost wasn't particularly a consideration.

@bwDraco MX300, I think. Hang on, I'll check.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha Actually, the MX300 is a very good choice, too.

Faheem Mitha

amazon.in/Crucial-MX300-CT525MX300SSD1-525GB-Internal/dp/…

bwDraco

03:38

The 850 EVO uses 3D TLC NAND. The 750 EVO uses planar TLC NAND.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco They're a good bit cheaper, but I thought I might as well go with the industry leader.

@bwDraco Yes, I went with the 850 EVO.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha The 850 EVO is pretty much the standard for mainstream SSDs. You simply cannot go wrong with it.

It does come at a premium over most of the competition, but has noticeably better performance where it matters most.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Good to know. Though it has terrible packaging. I dropped one on the floor when opening it. They could have secured it with a bit of tape or something.

But my computer reports they are both ok. I haven't tried doing anything with it yet, though.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha SSDs are generally not shock-sensitive. You could drop one several feet onto a concrete floor and even if you dent the case hard, the drive would most likely be fine.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco yes, I dropped it about 3 feet onto a tiled floor.

bwDraco

03:42

They're not electromechanical devices like HDDs are. SSDs are entirely electronic.

Faheem Mitha

But they really should package it better. It's irresponsible.

@bwDraco Yes, I'm aware of that. Even so.

bwDraco

Oddly, I have not had an issue with the packaging for my Samsung SSDs.

Faheem Mitha

So would you consider a Crucial MX300 then?

bwDraco

I would still prefer the Samsung solution, but it's a great pick if you're on a tight budget.

See tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-mx300-ssd-review,4723.html

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco They just stuck it in a little cardboard enclosure. With nothing covering it. It dropped right out.

I've seen better packaging on things that cost 5 dollars (or the equivalent of that).

bwDraco

03:45

I know, I know. I have a 512 GB SSD 850 PRO (the boot drive in the main laptop, purchased for Christmas 2014 shortly after it came out) and a 500 GB SSD 850 EVO (used in a USB 3.0 enclosure as high-speed external storage).

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Thanks for the link.

Does the EVO have better date integrity checking? That's important.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha Eh, ECC? I'm not too familiar with the ECC algorithms they use, but both drives use advanced LDPC error correction.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok, so not much difference there?

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha They can tune it to use different amounts of space for ECC, but I wouldn't know the specifics. Let's just say the SSD 850 EVO is battle-tested and known to be extremely reliable.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok. Thank you.

bwDraco

03:50

The 850 EVO has been on the market for close to three years and has been a consistent best-seller because it delivers excellent overall performance at a very competitive price. The Samsung brand carries a premium, but with it comes an excellent reputation for speed and reliability.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco There are newer versions with a different bus, I think. Which are supposedly faster.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha The 960 EVO is a very different beast.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Reliability is very important.

bwDraco

It, too, uses 3D TLC NAND, but has a much more powerful controller and can operate at vastly higher speeds. It's an M.2 drive, NVMe over PCIe 3.0 x4.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Yes, I was told my motherboard probably wouldn't support it.

bwDraco

03:53

@FaheemMitha What board?

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha That's an AM3+ board. No board of this vintage supports M.2 as far as I can tell.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco I was thinking of the PCIe thing. Isn't that separate from M.2?

I mean, one can get a regular sized PCIe one, presumably. Without the M.2 form factor, or whatever it's called.

M.2 is for laptops, right?

Side comment - it is worth registering the SSDs with Samsung? I haven't done that yet.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha You don't have to, but it may make it easier to make a warranty claim in case of trouble.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Yes, that's what I thought.

bwDraco

03:57

The drives I have are registered FWIW, but you don't have to do it.

Faheem Mitha

I might as well.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha Well, PCIe refers to both a physical interface and the expansion bus protocol. The PCIe bus can be run over a variety of connectors, including the internal expansion slot, ExpressCard (no longer widely used), the M.2 interface and (in some newer laptops) USB Type-C.

The M.2 slot can carry four lanes (x4) of PCIe 3.0.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok. Well, I thought it a safe assumption that my MB didn't support this SSD. I didn't actually check on it, though.

bwDraco

Even if you installed an SSD in expansion card form, your system would not be able to boot from it. You would only be able to use it as a storage drive. While there are adapters that allow the use of an M.2 drive in a PCIe slot, that, too, would be subject to this limitation: it wouldn't be bootable.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Agreed. Presumably newer MBs can support the 960 EVO as a regular internal drive.

But I'm not about to buy a new MB just for that.

bwDraco

04:04

@FaheemMitha Most AMD Ryzen and Intel 100 series and later boards can handle this.

@FaheemMitha You'd have to get a new CPU (and RAM), too.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco But those are much newer than what I have.

@bwDraco Oh.

Well, my I/O is hideously slow, but otherwise my computer runs just fine.

Hence the SSD replacement. My current HDD drives are pretty old.

I'm currently wondering whether it's worth experimenting with GUID/GPT.

bwDraco

The AMD Socket AM3+ platform is very old at this point. If you're upgrading, you should look at boards with either an Intel LGA 1151 socket (7th-generation Core, 200-series chipset) or AMD Socket AM4 (Ryzen, X370 and B350 chipsets).

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok. Thanks for the tips. I'd probably go with an AMD. I've never really been an Intel fan. Though I gather their CPUs cope better if they are not cooling properly. As I understand it, they just shut down.

But for now, what I have is fine. I'll probably wait for this MB to die.

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha AMD processors these days do in fact shut down automatically in the event of cooling failure.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Oh. Interesting.

My last MB didn't last that long, only 5 years, I think. I hope this one will do better.

Or was it 6? Maybe 6.

Yes, it was a bit over 6 years. Close to 6.5.

I guess this one is coming up to 4 years.

bwDraco

04:10

The Samsung SSD 960 PRO is their flagship drive and it beats essentially everything else on the market by a wide margin, but is extremely expensive since it uses high-performance 3D MLC NAND.

Faheem Mitha

Yes, it's really expensive here.

Double the 850 EVO, approximately.

bwDraco

Dec 21 '14 at 9:34, by DragonLord

...and you never realize your hard drive was holding you back until you replace it with a good SSD

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Is DragonLord you?

bwDraco

@FaheemMitha Well, here, too. It costs $0.60-0.65/GB, which is insanely expensive.

@FaheemMitha Yes, that was my old username. The less it's discussed, the better. Suffice it to say that it's due to a mostly meritless trademark claim.

Faheem Mitha

I spend quite a lot of time waiting for my hard drive to do stuff. Plus it could die on me. My current ones are around 5 years old.

Definitely time for an upgrade.

I'm not a big fan for new tech for the sake of it. I don't have the money or the time, really.

BTW, does it matter what kind of SATA cable I use?

When the chap came to install the SSDs for me, we didn't have a SATA cable. So we got from a corner shop.

But one can get supposedly "quality" cables from Amazon.

bwDraco

04:16

@FaheemMitha Generally not, as long as it fits the ports on your system and drive and isn't too badly made. SSDs can be more sensitive to cable quality because they push the limits of the SATA interface, but most cables are not that low-quality.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco Ok.

Journeyman Geek

05:12

SATA cable quality dosen't matter that much.

5

A: Are all SATA cables compatible with SATA 3?

We were discussing this on chat - I did a little digging and both maximum PC and puget systems did benchmarks on various cables. Maximum PC had a more interesting variety of cables and found they worked identically, even when used beyond the specified distance. Puget system tried it with a typic...

Faheem Mitha

05:26

@JourneymanGeek It might matter if it's junk. And India isn't exactly known for quality standards.

I was debating whether to get a couple from Amazon and replace the ones we've used.

Journeyman Geek

All made in china ;)

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Yes, that's probably true. Even the ones here.

India seems to import the strangest things from China. I don't know why they can't make them here.

But I seem to remember you're India yourself. So you probably already know about that.

Journeyman Geek

cause its too darned hard to actually get industry up in a proper democracy outside a war

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Huh? The US and Europe manage it.

And probably AU and NZ too.

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha bootstrapped before modern human rights, and acceletated by the 2 world wars.

Faheem Mitha

05:28

@JourneymanGeek Fair point.

Journeyman Geek

AU has a ton of 'empty space, and I'm not sure what they produce industrially. NZ does too

Faheem Mitha

But human rights don't really exist in India. It's like 19th Century Europe. Except dirtier and possibly nastier.

Journeyman Geek

They do to an extent

Faheem Mitha

India does produce stuff. Notably things like textiles. But there are lots of things they don't.

@JourneymanGeek What, in India? If you are rich, yes. Otherwise, no.

Journeyman Geek

Well, yeah. And actually kinda own a good chunk of the market on small chocolate conches. Accidentally.

Faheem Mitha

05:30

I mean, it's better than a really nasty totalitarian state, I suppose.

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek conches?

Journeyman Geek

conching...

basically blending stuff slowly at low heat. SO happens indian wet mills work perfectly for that, so a lot of small chocolate producers modify them

anyway, yeah.

Thing is a lot of new industry and recidencial devlopment is in agricultural areas

which is dumb. You want industry in places not useful for anything else.

Faheem Mitha

05:48

@JourneymanGeek I had not heard about that.

Mills making chocolate? Wacky.

Journeyman Geek

rcgrabbag.com/archives/making-chocolate-at-home

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Interesting. Looks like a lot of work.

Journeyman Geek

it is

Bob

@JourneymanGeek we're mostly services and commodity

Journeyman Geek

yup

Faheem Mitha

06:16

@Bob commodity?

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha raw materials...

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek ah

Journeyman Geek

coal, agricultural products, salt water crocodiles, poisonous spiders....

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Those are some interesting exports...

Journeyman Geek

The stuff they never teach you in school...

imgur.com/gallery/xb3WE warning, knolling.

Journeyman Geek

06:45

bbc.com/news/world-australia-40199557

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek knolling?

Journeyman Geek

knolling.

Faheem Mitha

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knolling ?

Journeyman Geek

yup

knolling.

user226528

Microsoft seems to have a started a massacre of its web contents. Lots and lots of old articles are taken down. Their links no longer work.

user226528

06:59

If any one you has used a Microsoft KB in your answers, maybe you should know that your link might be dead.

user226528

Two of my links were dead. I fixed them. Oh, wait. Did I say "fix"? Sigh.

Journeyman Geek

yup

erf

user226528

The funny thing is, Microsoft Word Viewer is still available for download. But its license agreement is taken down.

user226528

So basically, you solemnly agree to abide by Error 404. Failure to do so may have severe civil or criminal penalties! 😉

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Why "warning"?

Journeyman Geek

07:04

@FaheemMitha Its a joke. Knolling is one of those internet rabbit holes.

Faheem Mitha

I hear MS is revamping Office. But not being a MS user, I don't really keep track. Are they retiring Word?

@JourneymanGeek It is?

You mean like Tv Tropes?

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha basically office is becoming a subscription service.

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek Oh? So you can't run it on your own machine?

Journeyman Geek

Oh you can, but you pay yearly rather than one off.

user226528

@FaheemMitha Did you just ask whether Microsoft is retiring its #1 money cow? No, it isn't.

Bob

08:03

wtf, supermarket doesn't seem to have breadcrumbs

Journeyman Geek

Oo

Faheem Mitha

08:24

@FleetCommand I dunno. I thought maybe they had bred a bigger, better cow.

With improved earnings potential.

Journeyman Geek

08:55

@FaheemMitha that is what office 365 is. Don't sell the cow. Sell the milk

Faheem Mitha

@JourneymanGeek There you go.

Eventually MS will get to the point where you'll have to hire a certified MS Word Document Creation Agent per hour to create your Word files.

Journeyman Geek

naw

Journeyman Geek

09:24

@Bob what was the other band you recommended after the murder of my sweet?

Journeyman Geek

09:48

This is really odd spam

Bob

10:16

@JourneymanGeek good question

Jun 5 at 23:54, by Bob

@JourneymanGeek Noctura

DavidPostill

10:57

Hmm. Are [tag:mediawiki] questions on topic on SU (111 Qs) or would they be better suited to SO (2560 Qs)?

MediaWiki is a free software wiki package written in PHP, originally for use on Wikipedia. It is now used by several other projects hosted by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation and by many other wikis

Journeyman Geek

possibly neither

If you're writing/adding to it, maybe SO

might be an option

user226528

@FaheemMitha They have. That bigger cow has a name: Microsoft Azure. Microsoft's current slogan is "Cloud first. Mobile first." Azure is the manifestation of "Cloud first". There is no manifestation of "Mobile first", however. Microsoft miserably failed to enter the mobile platform competition.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek This question was what made me think about it:

-1

Q: MediaWiki fails to show Ambox

I am writing you about the use of Template:Ambox in MediaWiki. I have a version 1.28 hosted MediWiki installation that works well apparently at everything, but I can't get the boxes explain here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Ambox to work properly. As a test I implemented in this page...

Journeyman Geek

still off topic for us

and I hate the MOOOOOOM, BUT HE DID IT defence

user226528

@DavidPostill Voted to close. The answer, by the way, was obvious to me.

DavidPostill

11:11

@JourneymanGeek That's what I thought. I only reopened as the OP had an answer.

user226528

For example, Wikimedia Commons, which uses MediaWiki, didn't have an Ambox until recently.

Journeyman Geek

hammered. Lets wait to see if someone walks over with a rolled up newspaper ;)

DavidPostill

Thanks.

Avery

11:24

@JourneymanGeek oh snap

I was going to ask a question

but it's for pro webmasters only :(

Journeyman Geek

lol

Apparently since I maintain my workplace's webpage, I am one?

DavidPostill

@Avery Just be very enthusiastic :)

> Pro Webmasters Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for professional and enthusiast webmasters focused on how to operate websites.

Avery

the "enthusiast" thing is in all stacks' explanations though.

@JourneymanGeek I maintain around 10 domains and the websites in them, they're owned by 3 entities, but I don't see myself as one.

DavidPostill

@Avery I think "own" for webmasters means you have control over the website, not that you legally own the domain name.

Avery

well no I meant that I'm their sysadmin, that's all

Journeyman Geek

11:36

@Avery ehh. the lines are blurred these days

Bob

@JourneymanGeek so how is it? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob didn't really interest me >_>

Bob

ah

@JourneymanGeek I think this was the one I heard

don't really remember now

though might've been this

Journeyman Geek

Youtube dosen't really do any music recommendations in my playlists at the moment

Bob

@JourneymanGeek hm?

Journeyman Geek

11:46

@Bob it used to slip in similar stuff in "my playlist"

unless I was doing theme playlists ._.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I just came across those via spotify... thought you might like them :P

turns out noctura also does slightly different stuff

Journeyman Geek

ah

Bob

@JourneymanGeek not sure which you just heard

Journeyman Geek

lol

If I can't remember what it was.... ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek eh... how're the two linked above then? :P

The other type they do is this

Journeyman Geek

11:49

kinda meh ;p

Bob

ah

Journeyman Geek

I donno. ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek which one was more meh? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Its a general thing

I donno. ;p

Its a very hard thing to explain

Boris_yo

12:05

Do you scan documents that you will be storing and printing in 150 DPI or 300 DPI?

When printing, can you see the difference?

Is additional file size worth 300 DPI?

Journeyman Geek

Depends on your printer.

Usually for documents I just go with the default, then play with resulution and compression shrug

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek You can't play with resolution and DPI once it has been scanned.

What is the purpose?

Journeyman Geek

sure you can.

Boris_yo

To reduce DPI? Okay. Increase? No!

Journeyman Geek

I scan with the best quality I can, then resize for size.

If you're going to print it

Meh, even the biggest scans are a few megs.

Rahul2001

12:29

Hello!

I'm at a cyber cafe again ;p

Mum had a mood swing so took away my phone and laptop

Journeyman Geek

ow

Sorry to hear that dude.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Rahul2001 Wait your mum took away your laptop and phone?

I like the ██████████

Journeyman Geek

12:44

YOU MONSTER. HOW CAN YOU LIKE THE ██████████ ?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@JourneymanGeek The color

Journeyman Geek

oh

Henry WH Hack v2.0

It looks kind of blue.

Journeyman Geek

I see words and I want to paint it blaaaaaaaack

Rahul2001

@HenryWHHackv2.0 ...yeah?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

12:46

Ok

Henry WH Hack v2.0

13:01

Does anyone know that situation were you keep using sudo even when you're login as root?

Wait

Bob

...no?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Oh it happens to me a lot.

Well I hardly login as root so.

Wait I just lied to myself.

I said it happens to me a lot and then I said I hardly login as root.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ttrss really helps me understand just how rarely the stuff I read actually updates -_-

Rahul2001

Meh, I'm bored to death here, nothing to do.

Journeyman Geek

13:16

@Bob lol

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Journeyman Geek

13:29

@Bob lol

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Bob

@JourneymanGeek is there an echo in here? :P

Journeyman Geek

that's why I started using it.

Also works for frequently used sites

that was taken on walkies ;p

@Bob naw, I forgot I said it.

@Bob I think the idea behind RSS feeds for me is I check one place, not 20

Bob

@JourneymanGeek pretty much

I talked about setting it up, but only really did it when I went from reading 18 categories to 20

yes, literally 20 :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

I have 174 feeds, though a few seem to have gone dead and need to be pruned... 160?

allquixotic

13:47

@Bob lol

@Bob hey I'm free for games I think

Bob

@allquixotic hi! I'll be ready in a few mins

btw, @allquixotic - saw you in the lxd irc and mailing list :P

jokerdino

@Bob lol

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allquixotic

@Bob :D

did you see me on discuss.linuxcontainers.org too ?

jokerdino

hi @allquixotic

Bob

@allquixotic didn't check there :P

@allquixotic I'll probably be about 15 mins - apparently ew're doing midnight painting o.O

and by 'check' I mean 'tried to ask a question' :P

the irc channel seems to be largely an unanswered stream of questions :\

Journeyman Geek

13:58

0_0

Midnight painting?

@Bob IRC is even worse than SE chat for questions ;p

jokerdino

lol it's a nightmare

Bob

@JourneymanGeek how so?

it's supposed to be an official support channel :P

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