Root Access

Paul Vargas

23:00

^^^ Do you know any tool similar to the Pop Scanner? Select some region in the picture and get straightened it.

Michael Frank

@PaulVargas Google have an app for that.

Journeyman Geek

@PaulVargas for a windows PC?

Bob

So, I finally decided to take a look at the nominations page.

And the first three I saw are... lacking

Michael Frank

google.com/photos/scan

@Bob Yes, yes they are.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob no actually amusing joke candidates tho

Michael Frank

23:02

@JourneymanGeek Oh you want a joke candidacy?

Paul Vargas

@JourneymanGeek Windows 10 or Ubuntu.

@MichaelFrank Do you remerber the link?

Journeyman Geek

@PaulVargas paint.net has a tool to do it manually

Michael Frank

@PaulVargas google.com/photos/scan

But it's an android app, so maybe not so useful?

And I'm completely missing your requirement. :<

Bob

> To tell you the truth, SQL upsets me far more than any user ever has.

*votes for @BenN*

Ben N

Thanks :)

(whether serious or not, heh)

bwDraco

23:04

As stated before, it's quite apparent that I'm not quite qualified for the diamond ._.

Ben N

Also, woah, I had no idea Paint.NET could do straightening conveniently

How do I go about that?

Ramhound

@DavidPostill Camera flicker caused by RF interference

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek So my candidate score is 4th out of 8 nominations. o.O

Ramhound

@JourneymanGeek What statement was your response to?

Paul Vargas

@JourneymanGeek Did you mean http://www.getpaint.net/index.html?

Journeyman Geek

23:06

@PaulVargas yup

@Ramhound the headsmack button

Bob

@MichaelFrank There's an app for that.

Ramhound

Ahhh, Ok :-)

Bob

(Well, a data.SE query, but close enough.)

Michael Frank

Yea, there's also an easy way, which I did. :P

Bob

@BenN tbh, I'm still waffling between you and David, but there's still time to decide :P

Ben N

23:08

Here's the SEDE query FWIW

Michael Frank

That's okay, I already nominated myself to find out.

Paul Vargas

@JourneymanGeek Thank you!

Michael Frank

I also hit exactly the required amount of characters required to have a valid nomination.

Paul Vargas

@MichaelFrank Could be useful in some situations. :D

Bob

Hm. I'm apparently 33, despite barely touching main...

Michael Frank

23:10

@PaulVargas yea, it's actually a really useful app.

Bob

lol. I've actually got the full set of participation badges... just lacking a bit in mod and editing

Ben N

@JourneymanGeek Woah, that's really cool, I completely missed that

Journeyman Geek

@PaulVargas i.sstatic.net/oHwUI.gif

Bob

The one badge @BenN and @DavidPostill lack is " Constituent
Vote for a candidate in the final phase of an election "

well, that's convenient!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

23:11

By the end of this election, you two can have your new badge! Your score's going up!

DavidPostill

lol

Ramhound

Very, very suspicious 🤡

That's their last badge 🤠🤡😛👻

Journeyman Geek

lol

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Look what I found!

blogs.technet.microsoft.com/ashleymcglone/2016/06/29/…

DavidPostill

@Bob I'm only missing it because the last election was before I joined SU :)

Bob

23:14

@DavidPostill wait, was it?

I thought you missed being elected in the last one... came 3rd, with 2 mod seats open?

DavidPostill

@Bob April/May 2014

Burgi

welp

2nd of 8 in the quiz

we lost on the tie breaker

DavidPostill

superuser.com/election/3

Bob

Wait no. That was someone else.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Everyone vote CausingUnderFlowsEveryWhere for moderator! Do it now.

Michael Frank

23:15

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Yep. Powershell is not your enemy. :)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that was draco

Bob

@Burgi quiz? whazat?

@JourneymanGeek Was it? I'd forgotten the election entirely -_-

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Bob

Hm. Doesn't seem to be a way to check short of manually running the STV algo

DavidPostill

@Bob That's almost as bad as the couple of people who think I'm already a mod ;p

Bob

23:16

Damn this shitty memory :P

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill You do have a slanty name.

Bob

@DavidPostill Well, technically, you are a mod

(just as everyone else is, after a fashion)

Ben N

@Bob Here's an online summary

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank That's a room owner. I'm aiming for a blue name :)

Michael Frank

@BenN OPA? What are you, some kind of belter sympathiser?

Burgi

23:18

@Bob we do a pub quiz every tuesday

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill Yea, I know. I was commenting on how people think you're already a mod, and may not realise slanty-name != mod.

Burgi

@MichaelFrank there is a tool thing you can use to work out your candidacy score...

Michael Frank

@Burgi Yes, I've been told! But that was after I nominated myself.

Burgi

i think my score is broadly similar

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

what is this infinity fabric? I want watermelon

Burgi

23:24

@music2myear i'm so glad you are standing in the election

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Ben is a mod? Congratulations Ben

Ben N

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere On a different site, but yes; and thanks! :)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

JMG do you really get a hat or are you joking

Journeyman Geek

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere there's a literal mod hat

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

LOL

cooooool

Burgi

23:27

pics or it never happened

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi look at my ava.

Burgi

i didn't realise that was an SE/SU hat

where is the crazy candidate?

Journeyman Geek

Its a mod hat

You need to forge your own mod hammer though

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank ?

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek in the fires of mount doom?

Michael Frank

23:32

@allquixotic You should get a comment reply on the main site about it.

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi presumably. I just bought a rubber hammer from daiso and stuck an SU sticker on it.

Burgi

heh

Vulcanised Rubber!

forged in the fires of some cheap chinese factory

bwDraco

lol

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank just looks like you're using the wrong mount command

what block devices does gparted show? and what filesystem does it think they are?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@JourneymanGeek wait I didnt get to see it :(

allquixotic

23:34

trying to mount a block device that doesn't exist won't work, obviously

Michael Frank

@allquixotic Eh, I did use the right command, I just couldn't remember exactly what I type over the weekend.

bwDraco

I narrowly lost to Mokubai in the last election.

Journeyman Geek

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere ITS RIGHT THERE!

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh.. singapore?

bwDraco

!!/tell 36043930 powershell

...bot's down.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

23:35

LMAO IS DOESNT LOAD ON MY SCREEN ALL I SEE IS NO AVATAR and right clicking yields no image information

Ben N

This seems like an excellent time to unleash the PowerShell bot

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank try hfs.fsck on it then

!!info

Gypsy Spellweaver

Happy PI day, what's left of it west of the Atlantic anyway.

Michael Frank

@allquixotic I'll give it a shot when I'm at home. Thanks.

Ben N

Oh, allq is on it, never mind about the emergency PS bot :)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

23:36

please fix your avatar @JourneymanGeek <td style="width: 128px; text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">

</td>

allquixotic

!!info

Journeyman Geek

hmmmmmm

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic I awoke on Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:36:31 GMT (that's about 8 seconds ago), haven't done anything yet!

Journeyman Geek

No

ChatBot John Cavil

Michael Frank

23:36

!!cats

ChatBot John Cavil

@MichaelFrank That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: cat, ncats

Michael Frank

Yep, it's working. Telling me I got the command wrong... again.

bwDraco

There we go.

Any idea what went wrong, @allq?

allquixotic

@bwDraco same as usual

the cron script isn't installed / working so it doesn't auto reboot itself, and eventually phantomjs fucks up and hangs

or the websocket ... socket gets dropped

music2myear

@Burgi aw, thanks @Burgi.

bwDraco

23:38

lol @ "phantomjs fucks up and hangs"

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Yep. Powershell is not your enemy. :) ?

Bob

@allquixotic I was just about to s/same as usual/phantoms/ :P

Burgi

@GypsySpellweaver bad news, pi doesn't start with 14

Bob

@allquixotic if the websocket drops, bot IO is supposed to switch to polling

Michael Frank

@Burgi 3/14

allquixotic

23:38

@Bob and every time this happens we say we should switch to jbrowserdriver

Burgi

@music2myear you just need to fill out the questionaire

Michael Frank

cause month/day/year makes all the sense in the world.

Bob

that's Zirak code and I assume it works but I never did test to find out

allquixotic

since your webdriver.io script can work with any selenium driver, and jbrowserdriver is (AFAIK) headless

Burgi

@MichaelFrank only in crazy land

Bob

23:39

@allquixotic And then realise it's probably still dependent on xvfb -_-

@allquixotic that reminds me I need to update that script

allquixotic

I don't think so...? lemme check

it's truly headless, but doesn't support websockets

Bob

@allquixotic Hm. Apparently not

allquixotic

github.com/MachinePublishers/jBrowserDriver/issues/249 - yet

Bob

Yea, still outdated. Because webkit and oracle.

github.com/MachinePublishers/jBrowserDriver/issues/…

> But that seems like a lot of work and if latest Chrome compatibility is really needed I'd personally just use ChromeDriver via Xvfb on Linux.

Michael Frank

Hey.... today is my 1000th day visiting SU! :D

allquixotic

23:41

so phantomjs is dependent on annulen to update the unmaintained QtWebkit, and jBrowserDriver is dependent on Oracle to update the webkit in Oracle JDK

both solutions suck

Bob

@allquixotic I'm really thinking Xvfb is just unavoidable for anything resembling modern

music2myear

@Burgi yea. I planned to do that last night but was setting up my new Xbones and watching Tom.

TSM.

I'll try to get to it tonight.

Bob

@allquixotic github.com/dhamaniasad/HeadlessBrowsers

"Erik"

allquixotic

@Bob not once headless chromium is a reality!

Bob

github.com/phimage/Erik

o.O

Burgi

23:43

@music2myear awesomes and good luck!

allquixotic

whoa wtf

I started typing "chromium nightly" into the google search and the page dropped down and was like "You're speaking our language!" then went away

Burgi

creepy

bwDraco

@allquixotic That's Google's recruiting thing.

allquixotic

LOL. so Google thinks it wants to recruit me eh

but not enough, apparently, because it went away

Burgi

@allquixotic thats because your next words were "... is terrible"

music2myear

23:46

Google: we watch you every move because we want you in our Borger!

Bob

@allquixotic Or headless firefox, apparently

music2myear

Darn autocorrect.

Bob

> One of the first steps towards this will be to support a headless mode in Firefox that can run slimer.js on linux without an X server.

bwDraco

@allquixotic You might be able to start a pre-interview challenge. Your Google account should now be eligible for google.com/foobar. fortune.com/2015/08/27/…

Bob

> binaries are already being built and distributed, and this will hopefully align with work Chrome is doing (making cross browser testing easier)

waitwaitWAIT. Already being build and distributed?!

allquixotic

23:47

@Bob ... Chromium nightly on Linux supposedly supports it already

Bob

> - I haven't got full Firefox running in headless mode yet, I've been focusing on slimerjs (which works).

And SlimerJS has a PhantomJS-compatible API

hmmmmmm.

Burgi

bedtime!

nn

allquixotic

screw "PhantomJS-compatible"; all I want is Selenium webdriver support

Bob

@allquixotic Yea, just thought it'd be an easy way

assuming it supports GhostDriver

allquixotic

well yeah, we'd want to use ghostdriver

Bob

23:49

But the ff side only started a month ago

so chromium is probably more complete

but they have a custom API

so probably no webdriver support yet

> I think having Marionette built-in helps shortcut a lot of the issues around embedding that previous efforts hit, since you ought to be able to just run a headless instance and drive it via Marionette.

allquixotic

the headless readme says selenium

Bob

IIRC Marionette was the Firefox webdriver

@allquixotic oh? damn, I missed that

allquixotic

yeah marionette is the webdriver server

Bob

oh, I was looking at the Node.js bit

skipped the remote debugging protocol section -_-

bwDraco

I really wish I could help, but I know next to nothing about this stuff :(

allquixotic

23:51

firefoxdriver for firefox 47 and older; marionette (now FirefoxDriver) for FF 48+

Bob

> Yeah, I've been following some of their progress. It looks like they also plan support webdriver, so in the future it may be much easier to write cross browser headless tests.

that comment was 12 days ago

bwDraco

So folks, should I get back to learning JS, or brush up on C++ in preparation for a job?

Bob

plan to? does webdriver support not exist in chromium headless yet?

allquixotic

@Bob I wonder if ChromeDriver will work headless

bwDraco

(Serious question.)

allquixotic

23:52

the TCP connection routing for normal "headed" Chrom(ium,e) goes: webdriver client -> chromedriver -> chrome

I believe chromedriver forks and execs chrome, so maybe just get it to pass the --headless flag

Bob

hm

yea as of 4 days ago the firefox headless mode is just a (working?) patch, but not in nightlies yet

chromium's probably the easier choice if webdriver works

or just wait another few months for one of them to stabilise more :P

allquixotic

ah, it's using Offscreen Mesa (libosmesa)

Bob

bug1338004.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=8846112 the patch is ... smaller than expected

allquixotic

would be cool if that uses llvmpipe

bwDraco

@allquixotic Software renderer? Yuck.

(server has no GPU, though)

allquixotic

23:54

@bwDraco ....... it's a server lol

llvmpipe is surprisingly capable though

for web workloads at lowish resolutions (nothing more than say 1080p) it's great

Bob

github.com/laurentj/slimerjs/issues/80#issuecomment-280813674

allquixotic

just... don't run it on any WebGL workloads

bwDraco

Yeah. I've run semi-intensive graphical apps on my cloud desktop using llvmpipe and it's about as good as a modern IGP when given a fast CPU.

Bob

@allquixotic you could actually chuck Cavil on it directly and it ... should work? :P

> @brendandahl Awesome! It works with the latest release of SlimerJS, 0.10.3!! (after changing the max version to 54.* into application.ini)

export DISPLAY=77
export MOZ_HEADLESS=1
export SLIMERJSLAUNCHER=/home/laurent/tmp/fxheadless/firefox
slimerjs test.js

SlimerJS has a --webdriver

allquixotic

@Bob login?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

23:57

hey @JourneymanGeek I just came back because you made a typo in your comments for every person who nominated themselves "

You might want to fill in the the questionnaire" you put the twice, looks like you've developed a stutter :(

Bob

@allquixotic hm?

Journeyman Geek

I copy pasted those ;p

allquixotic

@Bob login piece has to be automated, I don't want to manually login

Bob

oh, I mean you could swap out s/phantomjs/slimerjs/

allquixotic

oh

Bob

23:58

but yea next month it should be more reliable :P

allquixotic

we're getting close to webdriver heaven; once this goes into chrome stable and ff stable... this will have a huge impact on my work

headless linux box with jenkins CI/CD with tests using selenium, no need for Xvfb or anything

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