Root Access

Journeyman Geek

16:00

lol

That Brazilian Guy

"IT IS NOT CHEATING. I MERELY TOOK A SMALL BREAK".

Journeyman Geek

How else would death speak?

well, either that or death of the endless.

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Well, worst thing that could happen is summoning Zalgo. Then there will be nothing to worry about. Nothing at all. Literally.

Journeyman Geek

Death (DC Comics)

Death is a fictional character from the DC comic book series, The Sandman (1989–1996). The character first appeared in The Sandman vol. 2, #8 (August 1989), and was created by Neil Gaiman and Mike Dringenberg. In the stories, Death is both the end of life and a psychopomp. Like most anthropomorphic personifications of death, Death meets with the recently deceased and guides them into their new existence. However, unlike most personifications of death, she also visits people as they are born, according to Destruction in the Sandman Special: The Song of Orpheus. Evidently, only she seems to remember...

Nick

@JourneymanGeek in a font that's all caps. Death won't press the caps key. He's too good for that...

@JourneymanGeek cool

That Brazilian Guy

16:02

@JourneymanGeek Death of the Endless would smile and play peekaboo with the baby

Hennes

@ThatBrazilianGuy You merely took a small <br> ?

SaintCore

Anyone ever added a site to "trusted zone" in internet explorer via group policy(computer config part) ? Is it possible that those entries won't show up on the client but are "activated" ?

I've added a site to it via group policy, gpresult says everything is ok but I can't see the entrance in the list and I'm not sure if yxou should see it :D

"the entrance" argh bad english, I mean entry :D

That Brazilian Guy

@SaintCore You have a 4-minute period where you can edit your messages ;)

@SaintCore Sorry, but I can't help you. I only use IE to download Firefox.

DavidPostill

@SaintCore That's probably better asked as a question on the main site ...

That Brazilian Guy

There's sun and loud thunder outside for about 15min.

I say let it rain. It was 33 Celsius earlier today. In the shade.

F#%K YOU SUMMER

Hennes

16:14

Heh, Ditto here. IE is the easy tool to download firefox with.

Rahul2001

i h8 dis. im n0t f9 wid dis. all thiz h8rz nid 2 die.

That Brazilian Guy

@Rahul2001 Noooooooo! Who are you! What have you done with our ~~chatroom geek mascot kid~~ friend?!

Rahul2001

im da mighty king!

i'm n0+ gud! im bad 4 u all

get awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Journeyman Geek

@Nick He would murder a curry.

>_>

SaintCore

@ThatBrazilianGuy didn't knowed that, thanks :D
Yes so do I, but in a corporate environment ff is just a pain in the a...

@DavidPostill surely it is, but I was just to lazy to use google :D I'm quite sure I'm not the first one who wondered about that

That Brazilian Guy

16:23

And why is FF bad in a corporate environment? I am in one now and using it.

Rahul2001

Aaaand... I'm back!

SaintCore

@ThatBrazilianGuy come to switzerland, -10 degree and > 1.0m snow... not quite sure if you would prefer that ;)

Nick

@Rahul2001 lies. I deduce this persona of text-speech won't last long. Just incase, I've sent a letter to the vatican to perform your exorcism.

Journeyman Geek

meh.

grabs a rolled up newspaper

SaintCore

@ThatBrazilianGuy for example: you have to allow kerberos authentication for every single url you want to use it and you can't configure a proxy via dhcp options in firefox...

That Brazilian Guy

16:25

@SaintCore I would. I can put a lot of coats, turn on heating, lit a fireplace, stay inside. Here you can turn on the A/C, turn on a fan, take 5 baths a day and start sweating while you dry yourself, fantasize about removing your own skin to see if you will feel less hot...

Rahul2001

Sh... I'll let you in on a secret that Microsoft will never disclose.

Do you know what Bing's number one search is?

Google

That Brazilian Guy

@Nick Yes, we don't need a new you-know-who here.

@SaintCore I don't use kerberos. And I have a vague memory of the DHCP proxy thing.

Nick

@Rahul2001 uh no way. bing is what the amazing spiderman used to look up stuff. It still has some klout left, I think.

SaintCore

@ThatBrazilianGuy we use kerberos for sso with a lot of our inhouse-applications, but about the dhcp topic: As far as I remember those dhcp-options are non-standard and mozilla only implements the options which are defined by a standard

Rahul2001

@Nick Th original spiderman was better!

Nick

16:30

@Rahul2001 hopefully homecoming won't be too bad. Anyone watch that yet?

That Brazilian Guy

@SaintCore You're talking about the TCP packets which indicate the local proxy for auto-configuration, right?

Rahul2001

@Nick It's not out yet afaik

Dog

                                                         Erf. So Kaby Lake Pentiums add hyper-threading but remove ECC.

AMD meanwhile say everything will be unlocked.

@ThatBrazilianGuy Huh?

SaintCore

@ThatBrazilianGuy yeah, dhcp-option 252 is the one I'm talking about

Nick

@Rahul2001 ever since the end 2016, people move and flex funny. So, it will probably be a fun movie... or maybe there'll be just lots of sitting around and it will flop.

Rahul2001

16:34

> flex funny

wot?

SaintCore

The option was originaly introduced by microsoft and almost any other company implements it these days, exept mozilla. FF just ignores it :)

@ThatBrazilianGuy but anyway: you are working with firefox esr ?

That Brazilian Guy

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356831
http://findproxyforurl.com/wpad-introduction/
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/934e8c7c-6359-4475-9568-b624e8a2c8ad/wpad-with-firefox?forum=winserversecurity

Someone on the third link claims to having had success

@SaintCore No, I'm using FF latest on Fedora 25. But I can use any software or distro as long as it is open / libre.

I have local admin and there is no list of approved or blocked software.

I'm just expected to have and use common sense.

SaintCore

"I defined in a wpad.dat file.
I have a web server that is pointing to a wpad.dat file. I created an A record in DNS that points to that file."

wpad via dns is working in firefox

wpad via dhcp won't work ;)

Nick

@Rahul2001 Am I the only one who noticed people and things have been out of whack for the past couple of months. I think not. As I'm trying to go about life normallly here, I'll just sweep all the weird stuff as temporary things only I'm experiencing. 'nuff said.

SaintCore

@ThatBrazilianGuy bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356831

2nd last post

Rahul2001

16:43

i.imgur.com/YnA5m07.gifv

Oh god

That Brazilian Guy

I hate how I forget to eat my lunch at work so many times. It's so damn easy to lose track of the time on the computer... =/

Hennes

Funny except for the part where the policeman unloads.
That kind of show off without warning is probably enough to get you fired.

@ThatBrazilianGuy If they only incented a clock in the computer.

(which I personally manage to ignore anyways)

That Brazilian Guy

/me sets up an alarm on the mobile

Oh, there was one from last year, called "You have to eat so you don't die"

Well, actually, just "Lunch", but that's the spirit of the thing.

Boris_yo

Need good AAA rechargeables. Recommendation?

Hennes

/me ponders breakfast (17:56 local time)

Boris_yo

16:57

It seems many are rebranded Sanyons/Eneloops coming from same factory.

AmazonBasics had theirs but quality gone down.

djsmiley2k

17:15

@Boris_yo i'm happy with the amazon branded ones

oh they've got worse??

Nick

Webinstaller be like this.

Activation of http://github-windows.s3.amazonaws.com/GitHub.application resulted in exception. Following failure messages were detected:
+ Downloading http://github-windows.s3.amazonaws.com/Application Files/GitHub_3_3_3_0/CefSharp.Core.dll.deploy did not succeed.
+ The operation has timed out.

Mokubai

For posterity...

djsmiley2k

@Nick 1. click link

2. download exe

3. run it

Nick

@djsmiley2k AccessDenied. for Github.application, it returns application cannot be run, please contact vendor.

djsmiley2k

o_O

so why is your provider blocking exe's?

Nick

17:25

exactly the emoji on my face

djsmiley2k

Is this at work or something?

Nick

@djsmiley2k good question. No, I'm at home. This is supposed to be a home connection.

djsmiley2k

do you have an antivirus program that flakes out about .application files?

whatever that is XD

Nick

Nope.

djsmiley2k

oh, it's just some xml

wikisend.com/download/893574/GitHub.application

here

Nick

17:29

the .application says this

djsmiley2k

hmmm shame

* Activation of d:\Amy\Downloads\GitHub.application resulted in exception. Following failure messages were detected:
+ Deployment and application do not have matching security zones.

no idea then

find the downloadavble installer and use that

Nick

I remember there being an offline installer for this. As in, all required elements can be installed without needing a net connection. I can't seem to find the original version of that.

djsmiley2k

16

A: MSBuild ClickOnce error: "Deployment and application do not have matching security zones"

Below is Microsoft's answer to the thread I posted on their forum. Basically they did support chrome back then, but now there is a plugin for Chrome here that works great. Hi fbanderson, I found an article talking about ClickOnce in Firefox. http://windowsclient.net/wpf/wpf35/wpf-...

.net 3.5 or something

allquixotic

hi

That Brazilian Guy

hi

allquixotic

17:39

hey R. A. (Roót Access)

That Brazilian Guy

Roót Access? For Russian users?

...they're making me move my desktop. I thought that's what we paid IT for...

allquixotic

o_O to where? and still the Phenom II?

yo desktop's so old, the AMD CPU in it is from the last time AMD was competitive with Intel

That Brazilian Guy

To a semicubicle 20 meters away.

> AMD Phenom II X2 550
Average CPU Mark
Socket: AM2+/AM3
Clockspeed: 3.1 GHz
No of Cores: 2
Typical TDP: 80 W

Other names: AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 550 Processor
CPU First Seen on Charts: Q2 2009
CPUmark/$Price: 15.24 Overall Rank: 1252
Last Price Change: $133.39 USD (2016-12-10)
2033

allquixotic

if it's fully half of a cubicle, it's a hemicubicle :)

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic It's like a cubicle, but also it's not, bul also it is. I'll post pictures.

allquixotic

17:46

@ThatBrazilianGuy hire JMG

2

That Brazilian Guy

USD 133.39 FOR A PHENOM II?!?!?!

allquixotic

you could pay a random dude already destined from Singapore to Brazil to take JMG as carry-on luggage, and get him to Brazil for like $20

then he'll get fur all over your system and it'll overheat and you'll have to get them to buy you a new one

Rahul2001

@Mokubai Thanks! xD

Oliver Salzburg

Can someone name an alternative to DBAN which I can use while running Windows?

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg you can't nuke the system partition; Windows won't let you.

if you wanna nuke another partition though, you can

Oliver Salzburg

17:59

@allquixotic Oh, yeah, I want to clean an external HDD. Not the system drive. I just don't want to boot into another system

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg cypher.exe

Or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment

Hennes

There is a hdparm for windows. It is limited in its functionality though, no idea if it can send a secure erase command

allquixotic

diskwipe.org

Oliver Salzburg

Thanks :)

And so silent!

Replacing 2 old 1 TB WD MyBooks with 1 2 TB WD Elements. It's so tiny in comparison

bwDraco

Security question: Can Flash Player access browser history from other tabs?

Hennes

18:09

Oh, best one about temp yet: TWO GIRLS, ONE COUP

Oliver Salzburg

@bwDraco Sounds to me like it shouldn't even be able to read the history of the current tab :P

allquixotic

@bwDraco short of an exploit that grants privilege escalation, there are no purportedly good browser extensions whatsoever that can view "browser history"

there are tracking cookies that might give them an idea, if you don't block them; there are things like HTML5 storage (local to the individual domain); but history? you'd need local user privs at least

I'm sure you could write a native FF/Chrome extension that leaks browser history on purpose, then load it, but neither Java nor Flash would be designed to do that, even 10 years ago

opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000034986

just got an email from Kaiser taking a survey asking me if I wanted Obamacare repealed, modified, stay the same, "don't know" or "no opinion".

I voted "stay the same" (28%); 18% wanted it repealed; 40% wanted it modified; 5% don't care and 8% don't know

looks like KP is figuring out what to do with their nearly $3m/year lobbying budget

Rahul2001

18:32

Hello @schizovivek How may we help you today?

bwDraco

Obamacare was a failure.

Hennes

Just replace "Obama care" with "trump doesn't"

@bwDraco was it. I had the idea it worked no better or no worse than any large goverment project.

DavidPostill

!!s/n't/n't care/

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Many would disagree with you

ChatBot John Cavil

@DavidPostill That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Hennes

18:36

No, I left of the care. On purpose.

ChatBot John Cavil

@DavidPostill Just replace "Obama care" with "trump doesn't care" (source)

Rahul2001

I don't see how health insurance is such a big political issue in the US

Hennes

Much like saying "I have not got the foggiest" (and leaving off the 'idea" part).

DavidPostill

lol

Rahul2001

Everyone has health insurance in India, and most of it is private

DavidPostill

18:37

@Rahul2001 because you (or someone) has to pay for it ...

Hennes

I think health care inthe US is simply twice as expensive as alsewhere due to people sueing (and the high insurance costs against that).

DavidPostill

It is very expensive and a bunch of people can't afford to pay.

Hennes

Which would not make it a heathcare problem but a culture problem.

bwDraco

From what I'm reading, Obamacare was not fully successful in reaching its goals. It wasn't a complete failure, but it didn't work as expected. It didn't make health insurance more affordable.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill But what's the big deal? You go to an company, pay every month/year, claim it when you need to

bwDraco

18:39

Some people managed to get insurance they otherwise couldn't get, but it really didn't work.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco But it isn't a bad thing

Mokubai

@bwDraco It wasn't meant to make it affordable for everyone it was meant to make it affordable for those that otherwise couldn't afford it because their premiums would have been insane

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic So, this is what I had until this evening:

allquixotic

@bwDraco that's because Obama's original vision for Obamacare never became law; the ACA law itself is an 800+ page monstrosity full of pork barrel politics, partisan politics, and "free market" dogmatism that panders to insurance companies, giving them free handouts at the expense of the public

That Brazilian Guy

bwDraco

18:40

@allquixotic Yup.

That Brazilian Guy

And this is what I have now:

allquixotic

Obamacare should be called Ryancare, because it's extremely similar to what Paul Ryan proposed a long time ago

That Brazilian Guy

Rahul2001

@ThatBrazilianGuy That desk would make me feel insecure... I need a more closed space

@ThatBrazilianGuy That's better...

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 The big deal is the unemployed people who can't afford the enormous premiums.

bwDraco

18:40

Welp, managed to calibrate my old laptop's monitor under Linux. The display is utter crap.

@DavidPostill Precisely.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Premiums are very affordable here...

bwDraco

Folks here have to routinely pay $300+ for basic insurance from the marketplace.

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 But not in the US. If you are lucky your employer pays.

bwDraco

Obamacare didn't work.

allquixotic

@DavidPostill how do you expect an unemployed person to afford anything? without a universal basic income, "unemployed ... afford" is an oxymoron

Rahul2001

18:42

@DavidPostill !?

Mokubai

@bwDraco But it could have if your politicians weren't insane

bwDraco

The idea was that the government would give tax credits to the poor to pay for insurance, but that didn't seem to work.

Rahul2001

A company would reek in millions if only it made premiums affordable, as far as I can see

DavidPostill

@allquixotic Well here unemployed people get some money from the state.

allquixotic

you either give out a UBI or you eliminate unemployment; it doesn't make sense to say "oh, we only ask $60/month instead of $300/month because that's going to be easier to withdraw from your $0 bank account"

that's like saying I'm only going to withdraw 1 gallon of fuel from my empty gas tank instead of 5

it's nonsense

Hennes

18:43

$300? I know the US $ is weak, but basic insurance over here was Eur 90-ish.
(Not extended all things++ top of the line insurance (which is EUR 150), but a far cry from $300)

allquixotic

@bwDraco but requiring everyone to pay something is a fundamentally sound idea; if you make it optional to have insurance, a TON of healthy, poor people will not pay into the system, and will thus not be investing in the system that's going to support them later when they become unhealthy

because by the laws of nature, if you're not unhealthy now, wait a while and you WILL be, 100% guaranteed

it's absolutely, positively certain

unless you suddenly drop dead, but then it doesn't matter anyway

you can't have a healthcare system based around "only pay if you're sick" because nobody but the top 0.1% can afford to outlay the actual costs of healthcare for the chronically ill.

everyone needs to pay, all the time

an enormous proportion of the population is chronically ill at any one time, and you yourself have like an 80% chance to join that proportion at some point in the future for a number of years

Hennes

@allquixotic That is how it is over here, Mandatory basic insurance.

DavidPostill

@allquixotic There will always be people who cannot afford to pay - they already spent their money on more important things - food/energy/rent - these things have to come first if you don't have enough money.

Rahul2001

Do government workers get insurance in the US?

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Why ask me? I don't live in the US.

Rahul2001

18:49

Sorry, mistake :/ I was going to reply to your message, but then decided to ask that question first.

Hennes

Davidpostil lives in the country with the NHS.

allquixotic

how's that coming? is the NHS getting 350 million GBP per week yet?

DavidPostill

@allquixotic Brexit is a long way off yet ...

Mokubai

@allquixotic Those cheesy gits need to to be fed into a blender.

Hennes

Nope. It was a "politician: We could pay the NHS".
Post vote: Nah, lets not pay the NHS

Mokubai

18:52

"Oh wait, this was essentially just a lie and we actually get a substantial number of grants back for various things like Cornwall..."

Hennes

Meanwhile, on a much lighter note:

bwDraco

12 mins ago, by bwDraco

Welp, managed to calibrate my old laptop's monitor under Linux. The display is utter crap.

Average delta-E was 6.3

It's now 0.56.

(CIE 2000)

DavidPostill

@Hennes Yes. Great if you can find an NHS dentist willing to take you on. Even then you pay something towards your treatment (unless you are exempt because unemployed/pregnant/whatever). Where I live there are no NHS dentists taking on new patients. I have to go private. My last bill was 120 UKP for a few x-rays and some antibiotics. That is almost 2 weeks of my unemployment pay. Fortunately I still have some savings.

bwDraco

The problem is that dentistry has long been treated as not a field of medicine...

Until recently, dentistry had never been considered a branch of medicine.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco That has nothing to do with it in the UK. It is part of the NHS (mostly). Has been that way all along.

bwDraco

18:57

That sounds like there aren't enough dentists in the NHS network...

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Well they get paid more for private work so it's not surprising. You can't force dentists to work for the NHS. Many do a combination of NHS and private, but not all.

An NHS practice is paid x per patient per annum + y per treatment where these numbers are fixed by the NHS. I believe a practice is only allowed z patients per dentist. If you are patient z+1 you can't get treatment....

I hope you get the idea. Some of these dentists have long waiting lists to join. Same applies to GPs.

If you move somewhere new you are basically stuffed.

bwDraco

We have similar issues here but it's not typically as bad.

Mokubai

Yeah, my dentist is like 16 miles away...

Hennes

I changed dentists in December. It took me 3 days to change, 2 weeks until first appointment. But that is in NL, not in UK

Animesh Ashish

Anybody went to CES 2017?

bwDraco

19:05

@AnimeshAshish I don't think anyone here works in the consumer electronics trade so none of us can go. It's not open to the public.

DavidPostill

@Hennes Yes. When I lived in NL it was no problem ...

Hennes

I do pay Eur 156 per month though.

Rahul2001

@AnimeshAshish What happened to your gravatar?

Animesh Ashish

@Rahul2001 I deactivated my facebook, so my dp went away with it. And I am too lazy to put one on right now

@Rahul2001 : People don't judge based on gravatar, do they?

HackToHell

openai.com/blog/GTA-V-plus-Universe

Let's drive cars with AI in GTA V yay

Rahul2001

19:11

@AnimeshAshish I do xD

What even... tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Burgi

@DavidPostill @bwDraco my dentist drives a lamborghini

wtf...

microsoft define an "active period" as between 1 and 12 hours....

yuo can't have a 12+ hour active period

Rahul2001

Yes

allquixotic

19:28

I want to live in Spain, where you're allowed/expected to take an hour nap mid-day at work

"siesta"

Boris_yo

19:42

@djsmiley2k If you sort reviews by newest you will find.

djsmiley2k

@Boris_yo aww that's a shame :/

Ahhhhhhhh where's my snow D:

Rahul2001

19:56

@DavidPostill I just sent an email to the friend's mom... I don't know if it'll work, but it's worth a try

Michael Frank

@AnimeshAshish It's sometimes easier to see who is talking by looking at the Gravatar.

@DavidPostill I find it insane that you can be denied care at a GP because you're not on their books.

djsmiley2k

20:16

@MichaelFrank where?

I smashed my filling

phoned up the dentist i was registered with 2 years prior

'sorry sir, we can't take you back as you have outstanding payments'

paid, 'ok sir see you in a week'

boom, done

Michael Frank

1 hour ago, by DavidPostill

An NHS practice is paid x per patient per annum + y per treatment where these numbers are fixed by the NHS. I believe a practice is only allowed z patients per dentist. If you are patient z+1 you can't get treatment....

djsmiley2k

Since then, had.... 4 appointments (one more tomorrow)

they must be making a huge loss on me

this one 'treatment' is 9 fillings I think

I've got at least 9 appointments

£53,

bwDraco

I just had an epiphany about the issues I've had here and at home. I've been under constant pressure to satisfy my parents, and what my parents ask of me don't align with my personal behavioral goals. When the two clash, I get in trouble. Mother is in constant fear that if I'm given full agency and independence Bad Things (tm) will happen.

14 hours ago, by allquixotic

I just had an epiphany

lol

I'm getting the impression that what I know is right is not what Mother wants from me.

djsmiley2k

welcome to life

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Quick someone call Netflix, I have an idea for the next Gilmore Girls. :)

Michael Frank

20:48

If I have my @gmail.com address set as my live.com username, how do I get emails there?!

Burgi

@allquixotic and 60% youth unemployment

@bwDraco if you are over 18 they can only suggest

Michael Frank

0

Q: Proposal: Merge SuperUser, Unix&Linux, ServerFault, AskUbuntu

Most of the questions are the same (configurations, non-programming) and it would benefit from having more people looking at questions. Some of those sites don't get a lot of traffic, the response rate is slow, and have many unanswered questions.

!!wat

ChatBot John Cavil

Michael Frank

VTC: Are you having a laugh?

Hennes

Lets also merge with seasoned advice. After all what else is a PC for when cooking?

sleep 900 && echo ^G^G^G^G^G

Dinner is ready!

Stack Exchange

21:05

0

Q: Proposal: Merge SuperUser, Unix&Linux, ServerFault, AskUbuntu

Most of the questions are the same (configurations, non-programming) and it would benefit from having more people looking at questions. Some of those sites don't get a lot of traffic, the response rate is slow, and have many unanswered questions.

discussion feature-request

Michael Frank

@StackExchange Too slow buddy. Silly robots.

Hennes

I guess my subtle "ehm, NO!' comment did not succeed.

Bob

22:45

hi

Michael Frank

mornin'

Burgi

@StackExchange we don't want those SF scumbags coming over here, stealing' our jobs!

Mokubai

@Hennes we should merge with physics.se, after all computing is just the application of chemistry and chemistry is just a light version of physics

Bob

On the other hand, physicists like to say physics is to math as sex is to masturbation.

Mokubai

@Bob math.se is a bit too abstract for me, but if we want The One True Stack Exchange then i suppose we can just merge the entire network in.

after all, programming is just applied math...

DavidPostill

23:14

@Mokubai No it's not. Programming is just zeros and ones ... :)

Mokubai

@DavidPostill ones and zeros added subtracted and manipulated to make a box full of lights show a pretty pattern

Journeyman Geek

23:32

I disagree with the closure personally

Hennes

I was tempted to post a heck no answer.
Simply because merging the sites would make them much less unique, and I suspect a lot less interesting to many users.

And loosing users due to that would defeat the states goals.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek As mod you can use your super powers and reopen it ... :)

bwDraco

9 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek

> Do not procede unless you're 1,000,000% sure what you're doing.
> If you're only 999,999% sure, then turn back now.

lol

Journeyman Geek

I could.

bwDraco

Come on, Apple. Microsoft has a nearly perfect implementation of this called Windows Hello.

Ben N

23:38

I voted to reopen

I'm concerned that sometimes meta closure is used as a super-downvote

(and I did downvote)

bwDraco

For whatever reason, when I create a new account on this laptop and I sign in with it, the whole USB subsystem crashes. Attached devices may or may not continue to work, but devices that are plugged back in do not work at all.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Oh dear. That is a baaad thing.

bwDraco

The machine locks up when shutting down.

...and we're good to go again. Created an account to test and this happens.

The extra account has been deleted.

Dog

!!caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

@Dog That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Dog

23:48

Shit

bwDraco

!!/caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

bwDraco

:P

Burgi

!!flag

ChatBot John Cavil

@Burgi That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Burgi

23:51

i have a dastardly plan...

Michael Frank

stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/88335018/…

Burgi

lol

we have a vegan in our office

Michael Frank

It must be interesting to live in a community small enough that you can vote on whether your neighbour is allowed a passport or not.

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank Naturalization in Switzerland is a rather unique beast.

Burgi

> Her opposition to local traditions, like piglet racing

bwDraco

23:54

People who want to become Swiss citizens need to show that they have a firm grasp of Swiss customs and culture and can fit into their community.

Burgi

wtf is wrong with this woman????

piglet racing should be in the olympics!

bwDraco

Some people think they're duty-bound to do stuff like this. PETA is often hated for being too extremist about it.

Burgi

PETA had an advert on a busstop near me last week

it was a baby chick and the tagline was "this male chick is killed at birth"

several things crossed my mind, the first was "its a bit small for a roast chicken"

Michael Frank

Isn't that true though? Nobody eats rooster, and they don't lay eggs.

Burgi

i thought they let them grow up and killed them for meat

DavidPostill

23:57

@MichaelFrank lol

@bwDraco Not always :)

bwDraco

swissinfo.ch/eng/becoming-a-citizen/29288376

Hmm...

Burgi

> What primarily motivated me about the cowbells was the animals' welfare

they wear the bells so they don't get lost!

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi male egg layer chickens are thrown into something like a woodchipper

bwDraco

> the person must be well integrated, familiar with customs and traditions, law abiding, and pose no threat to internal or external security

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