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13:00
you can add custom text fields
13:13
OVH sent me a survey
they're partnering with a company called "EY" for doing their market research
....and they have offices in Canada. EY!
hey aboot that canadian company EY?
quick question
are there any softwares that can build interface, with which I can update a db?
access and excel are excluded
@AndyK the short answer is "yes"; but your question is the IT equivalent of "are there any knives that can cut oranges?"
hé hé @allquixotic
the answer is "yes, many thousands of varieties/brands, depending on exactly what you want to do and the parameters of your needs"
13:19
I would like to build easy to deploy web interfaces
self hosted
@AndyK Its like walking into a knife shop and asking "I need something that will cut"
@allquixotic .... Earnst and Young, gone all hipster ;p
@AndyK You need to work on your precision.
Technically every single webapp updates a db.
Easy to deploy, or easy to develop? Easy deployment would be something like, for example, copying a few files into your HTTP server. That's "easy deployment". Easy development would be something like, writing a minimum of code.
Also, I'd much rather well documented deployment
else, just be one of the sheep and deploy everything as docker containers.
A lot of web frameworks have easy deployment these days.
also depends on the DB tech
13:21
Hell, even "chuck a bunch of PHP files into your web root" is easy deployment.
dbtech would be
postgres
A one-liner cp script can do it.
I need to be able to write with gui or with code
an interface
@AndyK you're still talking about all the webapps
If you're trying to develop a web app without legitimately knowing how to code, well... you won't be successful there, I'm afraid. I've yet to find a framework that can hold your hand that much.
13:22
do you mean something like phpmyadmin?
@AndyK well you can make fancy charts with metabase
that can update/insert/delete a db
metabase is good for writing reports
or SSRS too
Oh wait you want updates
13:23
I want updates
I don't think he knows what he wants ;p
@HackToHell
lol @JourneymanGeek
there is dbXtra
I'm tempted to !!thatword him
but there's many many many words
Do you just want a general-purpose admin console exposing the raw internals of the database, that would require the user to write SQL statements to create/read/update/delete in the database?
Or do you want your app to do something specific?
off-topic "seeking product recommendations"... ;)
13:24
that's the second solution
offtopic - unclear what you're asking.
;p
I'm done
!!hv
I need to be clearer
@allquixotic i think you befuddled him
I wrote that question
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Q: Reporting - easy to build interface linked to a postgres database

Andy KI'm looking for a tool that can create reports but also interface that can manipulate data. These reports and interfaces will be deployed on Windows PCs. Access and Excel spreadsheets are excluded. The reports and interfaces will be linked to a postgres database. I'm looking for something robus...

Did Azimov ever predict that machines would require humans to verify themselves?
13:30
@AndyK So, you've been given three upvoted solutions in the question you asked. Have you tried any of them? If yes, why did you find them unsuitable, or what difficulties did you have? If not, why not? What are you looking for instead?
and don't one of you regulars dare reply to my message with the Pakled quote from above, "We look for things to make us go."
@AndyK well tableau is the gold standard for this kinda thing
@allquixotic you'ver got a fair point. I need to have it a try first
@Psycogeek i think so but i can't remember in which story
Also what do you mean by
I found Metabase but I think it may no be able to create interfaces to manipulate the data.
@HackToHell I want to build an interface where I can write / insert / update datas from a database
but from what I've read
metabase
13:32
okay, perhaps you should add that to the question
is a reporting tool
what other systems write to this DB?
some excel files
nothing else
so you have excel files updating the database?
yes ...
don't ask ... T_T
13:35
i dread to ask but how do you do auditing?
in the situation of the company I'm working for, what means auditing?
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic ha I wish
suppose it depends whether you count the build process as deployment I guess
how do you prevent your intern going in and changing the data to make himself look better?
Bob
Bob
i.e. a "build and deploy"
@Burgi we have no way to track anything
13:37
@Bob I mean, sure, sometimes you have to hack things, but once you get a continuous integration / continuous deployment pipeline set up, you usually just have to press a button in your IDE or run a script and it'll deploy
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic ...I wish :P
webserver remote access is only via a locked-down VPN
@AndyK you have some issues to work through there...
@Bob ugh
@Burgi I know
what does your system actually do?
13:39
@Bob speaking of web apps, I really need to learn any random web app framework well enough to be productive with it (to actually make progress on developing sites)
I feel like I'm missing some fundamentals, not so much in "how" as "what do I do" when it comes to things like, CSS... I don't lack for finding specific things, just lack a general direction as to how to use the stuff
@Burgi it is mainly a database where data are stored
we would like to be able for specific users to update the data in it
and what sort of data is it?
hence the interface I'm trying to build
shipping costs, building costs, purchase ref ...
Dog
Dog
Is that what a database is for?
13:42
@AndyK I'd be worried if you were storing the humans in it
would a system like sales force not be more suitable?
Dog
Dog
Wow I've been doing it wrong all these years
@Burgi also more expensiveable
@Burgi ah but postgres is free, salesforce is $$$!!!!
@Burgi djsmiley has a point
13:43
there are free systems out there
obviously wasting developers time reinventing the wheel badly, and having to pay out for the security exploits is free.
we want something not too expensive
Anyway I'm clearly working here atm
so back later
@AndyK there are decent SMB (small/medium business) packages that do things like "shipping costs, building costs, purchase requisitions" (if you could specify even more "things" like that, it would help us further suggest options to you) out of the box... some open source, some with modest license fees.
you might not have to write any code if you select the right software
Salesforce or SAP would "cover everything", but expensive
13:46
if you have office 365 you could even consider sharepoint
@Burgi we have office 365
you have sharepoint included for free in your package
that's a good idea
that's the issue right now
we don't have a lot of time
here are other random IT things people might need: timekeeping (logging the hours worked per employee), payroll (paying your employees), IT asset management (keeping track of the computers/devices/monitors/servers/etc. your company owns), facilities (badging and credentials, physical security, cameras and monitoring)...
and we need solutions that can suit our needs without too much dev
13:48
if you can narrow down exactly which domains in the general area of "typical software every business needs" that you need, we can make better suggestions
I need to ask our IT guy
you need to reconsider that or hire freelancers
@Burgi we are 'poor' or kind of
so no freelance folks
you have to spend money to make money
we want money to be spend wisely
13:49
everyone does
You need a good pair of shoes ;p
@Burgi not with FOSS, but yeah, if you don't have money or knowledge or time, you're fucked
everyone does but not everyone does it
money/knowledge/time triangle: if you have 0, you're dead. if you have 1, you might be able to get by. if you have 2, you'll probably be OK. if you have 3, you will thrive.
13:50
@JourneymanGeek i missed that one, touché ;)
they don't have money; he said they don't have time; and he's asking here, so, knowledge, eh...
hence a 3rd party like freelancers
every day you have an inefficient system (like you do now) is money you are throwing away
Such a converter would be called a "NAS". — grawity 5 mins ago
Beautiful.
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I actually tend to just use pure HTML+JS+CSS when doing my own little sites
@Mokubai Yeah! Fight back the stupid!
Bob
Bob
13:53
I don't usually do single-page apps outside of work.
I'm very familiar with ExtJS (lots of hacking the internals)
@Bob this is a site with quite a few requirements, so I'll probably need to make it more robust than that
and it'll definitely need a persistence layer of some kind, whether it's serialization to xml/json, a k/v database or RDBMS
Bob
Bob
I'm very very familiar with ExtJS.
Bob
Bob
Heard good (and bad) things about Angular.
I started working with jHipster but it's so confusing with all the different technologies involved
Bob
Bob
13:55
we've overridden like 30% of the classes in one way or another
it's like walking into a master chef's kitchen
@Bob we have an angular microsite
"what's these little pieces of green stuff for?" "oh, that's garnish." "what do I do with it?" etc
i'm not a huge fan
@Burgi so like only an 80mm one?
13:57
heh
something like that
@Bob does the GPLv3 version of ExtJS work just as well, or is it hamstrung?
(by lack of commercial-only features)
@AndyK this system is free suitecrm.com
Bob
Bob
I use commercial at work.
i think it will tick all your boxes
13:58
hm
Since I'm repcapped (almost!) and need an opinion....
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A: How does Stack Exchange stimulate honest, open discourse while limiting the effects of trolling?

Journeyman GeekFunny thing is, politics has no place in outside the politics site. As far as the sites proper go - we have fairly focused/limited scopes , various aspects of technology, cookery, life skills. In most cases, the main sites are designed for maximised signal to minimised noise. For a Troll to act...

think there's anything else to say?
@JourneymanGeek your first sentence has a grammatical error
changes the whole complexion of your post for grammar Bureau-members like me
"politics has no place in outside the politics site"
wow @Burgi
14:00
and yes, I intentionally replaced the word "N*zi" with "Bureau-member" because of a recent video I watched about German game censorship, where Wolfenstein: The New Order got completely rewritten so you're fighting an enemy faction called The Bureau
because they can't refer to Nazis
> outside of the
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Not sure I'd recommend it, but I'm certainly very familiar with it (classic toolkit, not really using their MVC thing but kinda)
Should I be correcting this all at once? ;p
Bob
Bob
14:01
The lack of recommendation is mostly cause they're not quite as "open" as some other frameworks.
Functionality-wise, I haven't done a comparison.
@Rahul2001 please don't create rooms to spew nonsense film quotes. Rooms should have a purpose beyond "I watched a cool film" or "I'm bored"
> In addition to mods who're chat regulars, they act as the 'responsible adults'.
i need a pram so i can throw my things out of it
yup chat whores the lot
14:05
In a sense, that's what a lot of what chat moderation is.
@Burgi that's quite literally the best description of chat moderation I can think of
@Burgi I like to be a child sometimes, so maybe we should switch places
:)
Burgi and allquixotic, instead of allquixotic and Burgi
i'm not sure i am trusted enough yet for the italics
lol
tbh, I quite literally just added trusted people to cover regions/timezones.
14:07
I sure as heck wouldn't trust you; you're not from the Fatherland. #FauxXenophobia #MakingTheManHappy
I don't trust you either JMG ;-p
You're trusty, but lol, we have... 2-3 mods + a RO in your timezone ;p
as alluded to on gitter before
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic So, yea. If you do go Ext - I can probably answer nearly anything :P If not... well, I've been meaning to learn another one at some point :D
@allquixotic which one is the fatherland?
14:09
@Bob it would appear that my own personal projects are spilling over into helping you learn, too... this is a Good Thing
@Burgi if you think about it though, the RO's actually rarely use their RO powers
@Mokubai Edelweiss, edelweiss.... every morning you greet me... oh, wait, wrong Fatherland :-) My country, tis of thee, sweet land of liberty.
(heck, most of my moderation here dosen'tm either ;p)
"In days of yore from western shoooores"
oh wait, that's a school anthem ;p
I've never actually done anything moderatey at all on chat other than create a private room
@BenN that's kinda the point tho
14:10
Yep :)
If things are working smoothly, people shouldn't have to
@allquixotic yeah since he had a shave on the 8th @JourneymanGeek is no longer trustworthy
@BenN are you sure you didn't moderate your use of PowerShell in chat? hé hé! ;-)
@JourneymanGeek i wasn't complaining, your light touch is the primary reason i stick around
Also, in context of this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/289398/… , its a non issue
@Burgi heh. I've seen what heavy handed moderation does
Granted, the guy I mentioned on the post... died.
14:12
O_O
Heart attack in his 40s. I guess he was too angry all the time ;p
stress kills
Here's the thing though, he chased off users who should have been the next generation of core users
simply for his own ego
(on the other hand, my main goal here is to go to sleep, and if anything happens, someone here should be able to handle it ;p)
> I've seen them do a great job politely talking down irate users (amusingly one who was mad at me). - this guy died?
14:15
erm no
Not yet anyway
> one of the influences of how I moderate was a admin who was a complete bully who liked to throw his weight around
This guy died
he taught me how not to be a moderator
an admin
@JourneymanGeek contacts FBI
@BenN now now, I prefer to kill people by old age ;p
@BenN he has his own orbital ion cannon
14:21
> Do not procede unless you're 1,000,000% sure what you're doing.
> If you're only 999,999% sure, then turn back now.
rofl
Dog
Dog
@BenN French Bread Inspectorate here, you called?
14:38
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Q: Qt Creator on MacOS: pkg-config dependencies can't be found

allquixoticI already tried all the solutions here, but I continue to get the following error when I issue the command "Run qmake" on my project from Qt Creator on Qt 5.6.1: Project ERROR: grpc++ development package not found ... Yet, on the console, qmake && make clean && make successfully builds the ...

the cat is trying to eat an apple but doesn't have teeth shaped correctly for fruit eating
the cat gets frustrated, flicks tail, and walks away from the apple
...for like 5 minutes
then the cat comes back and plays soccer with himself by batting the apple around on the floor.
clearly you need a fishpc
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek nah, the cat needs a mouse
one with a proper tail
@Mokubai lol, it was a joke, sorry...
@Mokubai deleted the room... I should have saved a screenshot :(
Dog
Dog
@allquixotic wat
!!hi
hi guys. I'm having trouble installing the github application for windows. desktop.github.com
What do you propose I do.
Dog
Dog
!!info hi
14:58
@Dog Command hi, created by allquicatic on Sun, 28 Aug 2016 15:51:12 GMT
hi Dog, we've never met. I'm Nick and the alpha dog in the room has been journeyman geek for a long time now. I hope you won't upset the balance ;)
@Nick They's a cat.
@Nick OMG YOU'RE BACK!!!
OMG all you folks are still alive :D
@Nick "I'm having trouble" is not specific
45 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek
This guy died
^ not him
15:02
off topic
;)
From the install log:
...
'Windows Installer 4.5' RunCheck result: No Install Needed
Launching Application.
URLDownloadToCacheFile failed with HRESULT '-2146697208'
Error: An error occurred trying to download 'http://github-windows.s3.amazonaws.com/GitHub.application'.
meh
web installers are terribad
@ChatBotJohnCavil yup that happened.
@Rahul2001 hi man :)
@WHATEVERDave do you know how to avoid the return-path header with PHP mail()?
15:04
that file works for me btw
(i.e. it downloads)
@JourneymanGeek what's good then
@Nick hey... How're you doing?
i think php mail() uses /bin/sendmail
@djsmiley2k on windows?
15:05
@Rahul2001 told ya already, rewrite the mail function
i dont recall
Dog
Dog
@JourneymanGeek I'd totally throw my weight around, but being a skinny homeless cat, I'm not very heavy
oui @Nick on a pretty restricted network
@djsmiley2k What... How?
read the code o the original
copy it, remove the bit that adds t hat header
celebrate the fact your plaguriation was sponsored by some guy on the net.
15:06
@Rahul2001 I was kind of down for a while but for the past couple of weeks, I'm doing good. The New year is good for me :) How about you? How's life been?
@Nick having the option to download the whole installer, natch ;p
@JourneymanGeek I've fixed "on a room" to "in a room" :)
@Nick I got a girlfriend!
(two, actually)
@Rahul2001 I saw that in the sidebar the last time I visited here. You kissed her for the last time apparently.
@Rahul2001 you sly journeyman geek
Jun 26 '16 at 16:31, by Rahul2001
SOMEONE GET ME A GIRLFRIEND
Dec 6 '16 at 9:42, by Rahul2001
I GOT A GIRLFRIEND!!
Dec 26 '16 at 12:43, by Rahul2001
Okay, I got another girlfriend. This is weird. Very weird.
@Nick he's had at least 2 since december
15:13
Moral of the story : If you want something enough the whole universe conspires to get it for you.
@Nick eventually
which is waaaaaaaay more than the average number for normal geeks of his age
I'm trying to get the job I want, and things are tiresomely messy ;p
shutup clippy
@JourneymanGeek What job is that? Is it president? Try applying for president.
ugh...
i wish you could exclude file types in notepad++
its currently searching through 100,000 pdfs...
15:19
@Burgi I'm a geek with swag, attitude, and charm xD
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@Rahul2001 and modesty
@djsmiley2k wow, it finally worked for me too. I've been trying to get it for the past 12 hours. Maybe shrinks are right, talking about it does solve the problem :D
@Burgi lol
@Burgi Modesty is a very complicated thing. Too much, and you're just the best friend, too little, and you're the asshole
whippersnapper
Not being modest (ie, mild boasting) in a playful and joking manner worked for me
15:22
@Nick sysadmin
unless SE's hiring CMs, which I don't think they are ;p
@JourneymanGeek You would make an awesome one!
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Q: Notepad++ excluding find filters

user29169In Notepad++ I want to search in all file types except one. For instance: I want to search in all files but not .class files. Can the Notepad++ filter can be configured to work this way?

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@JourneymanGeek pray you'll get it. ooh, it'd be cool if you become an SE staffer. You'll be the inside man always upto date on wazz happenin yo.
@Nick more like I'll be all "I can neither confirm nor deny...."
;p
15:25
I do share any tasty rumours like the potential return of the swag shoppe already tho ;p
Dog
Dog
I found a picture of my old server!
oh, Banished is on sale on Steam.
@JourneymanGeek shucks, everyone's like that nowadays. I wish people were more explicit. I mean if something major like the apocalypse is happening, people should explicitly (and calmly) say that "hey, the apocalypse is happening, that's what's up yo"
I already got it (i think it was 1-2 years back when I bought it).
But it is a stunning game
lol
@Nick well, to the extent I can
Se's actually pretty open about most things
15:27
@Dog It looks like an old CPU with multiple hard drives attached to it. What did it serve with?
@Dog is that a lack?
@Nick on the other hand, most of my jobs have involved some level of secracy
(Studio... casino IT ;p)
Dog
Dog
@djsmiley2k A what?
@JourneymanGeek you're joshing me, right? casino IT, really?
15:30
^lack
@Nick nope.
Mostly moving printers, commisioning/decommisioning systems and lots of walking
Dog
Dog
@djsmiley2k Oh! Wow. Well spotted. Indeed
I also worked for a second tier vfx studio ;p
@JourneymanGeek sounds healthy and in an ambience of the wealthy.
@Nick Casios smell of cigarette smoke and desperation ;p
Dog
Dog
15:32
@djsmiley2k good eye
Dog
Dog
Well, it was definitely Ikea.
@Dog how much did that rig cost to set up?
@DavidPostill fracking powershell
Dog
Dog
15:40
@Nick aside from the drives? About $0
@Dog You have someplace you can get old parts from I assume.
@Nick I've picked up mostly working machines off a curb equivalent ;p
nice home sweet home @Dog
15:56
I just teached a regular user how to regex. Not sure if I did a really good or really terrible thing.
YOU FOOL! YOU HAVE DOOMED US ALL!
Next thing you know,they will try to parse xml in regex.
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You know.that never ends well.
Dog
Dog
@Nick Most of everything I build is just stuff from my last PC I was going to scrap
@AndyK Lol, I'm homeless. That was six years ago
@Dog Were you the chilly guy I met on virtual beggar?
15:58
lol
ugh, that [macOS] tags keeps thowing me off.
mac OS classic is what I always assume (which is not the case on SU)
@Nick Nice! Couldn't help but image Death speaking in all caps:

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