Root Access

Burgi

21:00

if that makes you happy

DeerSpotter

latex gloves make me happy

That Brazilian Guy

@DeerSpotter Well, the system is used on a daily basis by millions and constantly improved to avoid being gamed; it is designed to be ungameable.

DeerSpotter

(sarcasm)

i like that challenge

is there a reward in gaming the system?

like i finally get to comment?

Burgi

you can't game a system you don't understand

DavidPostill

Latex gloves make a lot of people happy but they don't normally talk about it in a public place ...

DeerSpotter

21:01

i understnad the code, i hate speaking

Burgi

thats how casinos work

That Brazilian Guy

@DeerSpotter The only true reward in getting reputation is helping others, making the community stronger, advancing the overall level of the industry, and occasionally getting some recognition in your field.

3

DeerSpotter

so if i can prove i can game superuser, will i be pemrentaly banned? o

Burgi

I play StackExchange for the sweet hats

DeerSpotter

ovisously a different account will be used so you cant track my ip

That Brazilian Guy

21:04

@DeerSpotter That's a strong possibility. And the loophole being fixed is a definite possibility.

Burgi

can i use my internet points to pick up chicks and buy beer?

DeerSpotter

is there any way to approach a exploit from a friendly side

That Brazilian Guy

@DeerSpotter They don't need to track your IP. If you make two, 100 or 1 million accounts and make bad contributions, those will be downvoted. If you make good contributions, then xkcd 810

Hennes

@Burgi Heh, I have tried to avoid hats this xmax

Burgi

!!xkcd 810

ChatBot John Cavil

21:05

And what about all the people who won't be able to join the community because they're terrible at making helpful and constructive co-- ... oh.

DeerSpotter

dont know why i am thinking about LULU LOVE while reading that

Hennes

I am thinkin of bits and bytes. Specifically hobBITs and hobBytes

allquixotic

@DeerSpotter You'll find that SE is extremely good at dealing with people trying to do that. The site fights off thousands of bogus spammer accounts every day, vandals, and people like you. It has a very strong "auto-immune" system composed of both users and automated systems. If you want to play whack-a-mole, go ahead and do so; the system will barely even notice you're doing it because as much as you try to be a nuisance, you're small potatoes compared to the thousands of automated spam bots.

Do so until it ceases to amuse you, and then go away. Goodbye and good riddance, I say.

Burgi

@Hennes the hobBIT is larger than a hobByte which isn't right...

Hennes

Simply because it is the one

allquixotic

21:09

@Hennes now I want to see a Hobterabyte

Hennes

And all information once was stored in 'ringkern geheugen' (ring core memory, translation sounds wrong)

DeerSpotter

see social engineering works

now i know

what system u use

Hennes

Enlish

s/u/you/

Burgi

are you going to "hax0rz" us?

DeerSpotter

nope

no need

you will destroy yourself

Burgi

21:11

hey now, i'm only having the ONE beer

DeerSpotter

same thing that happened to COD when battlefield came out

DavidPostill

@allquixotic He's just trolling ... I'm surprised you took so long to notice :)

DeerSpotter

damn it david

:)

Burgi

@DavidPostill what if i dress up as a goat and try crossing his bridge?

DavidPostill

"Member for 4 years, 5 months"

DeerSpotter

21:13

do you guys remember that guy who made creating your own server for COD possible?

Burgi

no

not sure why fish need a server

DeerSpotter

he got a seize and desist letter to stop updating the code for the community. Even though nobody bought the game anymore they still made him stop it. I always wondered if the files were still being leaked somewhere

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill Because he didn't do it in a funny and completely over-the-top way. If he asked for Ubuntu keygens or where he could buy rep points, while making a completely straight face, it'd be a much better trolling.

@Burgi If they have status codes for teapots why not servers for fish?

Burgi

true

but fish have their own nets

DeerSpotter

What do sophisticated fish drink?

Burgi

21:17

gin

DeerSpotter

Salt-Tea

That Brazilian Guy

Burg is looking really ~~funny~~ punny today ;p

Burgi

you clearly haven't met anyone soFISHticated

god that is bad

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi yeah, something in all these puns definitely doesn't smell right.... ;p

DavidPostill

Ah. The suspension. I'm not surprised. There was a rollback war ... meta.superuser.com/posts/11966/revisions

DeerSpotter

21:20

.
>*- oh ****; no entry found for log-activation; patch a first entry
> PERFORM patch_contents.

I love my rollbacks

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy i've had a good day, got my hands dirty in frontend code

i also got the company to agree in principle to pay for basic people management training

DavidPostill

@DeerSpotter Well you shouldn't rollback edits that a/ correct spelling and grammar, and b/ remove fluff like "thanks".

Comments like " You have no life and shouldn't abuse your powers to prove it." don't help either.

Burgi

especially to that particular mod....

DeerSpotter

I showed him how peasant i was.

DavidPostill

That's the best and most apt typo I've seen for a long time :)

Burgi

21:25

hehe

i was giggling at it too

DavidPostill

@Burgi It was a comment to the editor not the mod but even so ...

DeerSpotter

its frustrating, because edits, deletions, all that doesnt help me achieve rep.

Burgi

valid edits give you +2 rep

DeerSpotter

shit, i screwed up

totally gamed myself

DavidPostill

@DeerSpotter Please read Why do I need 50 reputation to comment? What can I do instead?

And come back in a week when you have calmed down and have something sensible to contribute.

Burgi

21:30

@DavidPostill when you get your diamond you are going to be badass

DavidPostill

@Burgi :)

DeerSpotter

so if post answers like this:
x = refrigerator
y = smash it and then do it again
z = go buy another one

"I'm not sure what the cause of your problem is, but if it's X, you can solve it by doing Y. If that doesn't help, try Z and let me know what it says."

will it still be counted as rude

Burgi

no but it is a bad answer

allquixotic

15

A: Using pkg-config with Qt Creator/qmake on Mac OSX

Solution Add the line QT_CONFIG -= no-pkg-config to the project file. Explanation Support for pkg-config is disabled by default in the Qt package for mac. So the qmake is configured to assume that there is no pkg-config on the system. They do that through macro variable QT_CONFIG qmaketest$...

DeerSpotter

i copied it word for word, the world hates me

Burgi

21:31

for good reason

DeerSpotter

Ive done good answers in the past VBA and stuff, just been a while, got used to using QUORA i guess. Like must stay complicated i guess.

life*

DenisKa

hello.. I created a virtual machine with hard disk file type being "VDI".. Now when I booted the OS on virtualbox. It says of formating the 15gb of memory which I allocated for it (VDI)... Now if my computer doesn't have 15gb what will happen?

DavidPostill

@DeerSpotter Perhaps you should read the next line, which says "If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. "

allquixotic

@DeerSpotter Quora is more free-form, and I like to engage in a bit of "Quora guilty pleasure" now and then by reading interesting hypothetical questions/answers, that epic question about what have flight attendants seen on airliners, etc. -- but it's not a very good site for getting well-informed, detailed answers about technical topics

That Brazilian Guy

> It says of formating the 15gb of memory which I allocated for it

Are you sure that's what your VM software says?

allquixotic

21:36

@ThatBrazilianGuy shh, I know exactly what he's talking about, and am about to answer :)

DeerSpotter

@DavidPostill imagine what is usable, a percentage of that will actually be used, just the virtual environment will try to handle everything in 15gb, you will be fine.

allquixotic

@DenisKa if you created the VDI as dynamically allocated, that means the image will grow slowly over time as you add more data to it

DenisKa

@ThatBrazilianGuy it says "The setup will format this partition" and that partition is 15

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic Sparse files? Or mistaking RAM and HDD space?

allquixotic

dynamically allocated VDIs can be of arbitrary size; they only grow as large as what you actually put in it

@ThatBrazilianGuy he's talking about virtualbox VDI image files, which can either be fixed size or dynamic

DenisKa

21:38

@allquixotic so if my pc doesn't has 15gb of space?

allquixotic

it isn't even sparse; it just has an internal mapping between logical positions in the file on the host and logical blocks in the guest

DavidPostill

@DeerSpotter What are you on about?

allquixotic

@DenisKa you can create a 2 TB dynamically allocated VDI file on a PC with only a few megabytes of free disk space, and it'll work fine, until you try to write more data into the VDI (from within the guest) than you have free space

DeerSpotter

@DenisKa even if you have 2gb, your os will manage the visrtualy system like a application. which is why our games and softwares freeze and glitch.

allquixotic

it can't magically store the data somewhere else; it will try to write the data to disk, and if the disk is full, it'll crash

Burgi

21:39

@DenisKa this might be a good time to mention that this sounds like a GREAT question for the main site....

DeerSpotter

so if i steal this question? will i still get downvoted?

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic He also said the VM software was going to format "the memory" and his system doesn't have "15 GB of memory". I find it improbable that he doesn't have 15 GB of free HDD host space, and much more probable he doesn't have 15 GB of RAM.

DenisKa

@allquixotic I see

Burgi

@DeerSpotter you are still banned

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy he's talking about storage; a lot of people say "memory" when they mean disk/storage

DeerSpotter

21:40

shit

allquixotic

it's obvious because you don't put VDIs in RAM

if you know what a VDI is and how virtualbox works, it's pretty obvious (no offense)

DeerSpotter

there is also a method, im not allowed to disclose that used the physical disk (dvdrom) as ram

That Brazilian Guy

I try to not assume

DeerSpotter

write speeds are horrible, but it helps

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy and yes, it's very probable that he doesn't have 15 GB of free disk space.... a lot of people have very little free disk space

you can thank manufacturers for shipping anemic 64 GB and 128 GB (even 16 and 32 GB!) Windows devices on a budget. 128 GB SSDs in cheap laptops. less in Windows Atom tablets.

IIRC the Surface Pro 1 shipped in a 64 gig configuration, perhaps even 32

and that has a fully fledged Ivy Bridge CPU

@DenisKa basically what happens is, the logical blocks (4K "chunks" of data) of the virtual hard drive are mapped into the actual file whenever they're referenced (written to) by the virtual machine

so if you did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda in the guest, it would map the entire virtual drive and the VDI's file size would equal the size you originally declared as its maximum capacity, or until your physical disk runs out of space

for practical purposes though, overprovisioning is perfectly fine, as long as you keep enough free space on your physical storage medium (HDD, SSD, flash drive, whatever) so it doesn't completely run out of space

Mokubai

21:45

@allquixotic Depending on the VM software that would do nothing. Virtualbox assumes writing zeroes doesn't need anything writing to the disk.

In the container file it just marks the blocks as empty without actually filling them

DenisKa

@allquixotic is it kind of .. fooling the virtual machine

allquixotic

@Mokubai hmm, I suppose that makes sense as an optimization... for each 4K block write, it could just determine if any of the bits are a '1', and if not, don't write it out

of course it could also do block layer compression but I don't know of any virtual machine file formats that do that except for using a ZFS ZVOL with compression, which IIRC Xen and KVM can use

@DenisKa pretty much, yeah

Mokubai

Aye, I did play with zero-filling a disk once and it did increase the usage slightly, but nowhere near the full extents. You probably need to use urandom or something to actually fill the disk

allquixotic

@Mokubai it probably just has an array of logical block addresses that are zero-filled in the file metadata

Burgi

brb, trying a reboot in case crazy EFI errors are still lurking

allquixotic

21:49

which, for terabytes and terabytes of disk, could grow pretty large, but tiny compared to literally storing the zeroes

or it could just default to "if the block isn't mapped, assume it's zero-filled"

in which case, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda would be a no-op from the VDI's perspective

Mokubai

@allquixotic Exactly, and it's a rather simple way of giving people a way to effectively re-shrink their disk images without having to completely expand it first.

8

A: Will zero filling increase the size of virtualbox dynamic disk image

I have just tested it (using sdelete -z in a VM) and zero filling the disk will not appreciably increase the size of the dynamic disk image. Virtualbox is smart enough to recognise that when you are writing zeros to an already empty block the disk does not need to have the block written again. ...

Burgi

wow that was quick

Mokubai

@Burgi what was?

Burgi

my reboot

Mokubai

Oh, NVME?

DeerSpotter

21:52

@Burgi CHECK IF ALL YOUR FILES ARE STILL THERE

Burgi

@DeerSpotter OH NOEZ!!! ALL THE PIX OF NUDDY LADEEZ HAZ GOEN!!!!!!!!

Tom Wijsman

@Burgi DW, THEY ARE BACK'D UP ON DA INTERWEBZ

Burgi

hehe

DeerSpotter

oh well: "He knew what he was doing"

djsmiley2k

gd

Tom Wijsman

21:55

Oh, that "Not Secure" or "Secure" thing in Chrome ... :-o

Burgi

there is one thing that is missing

DeerSpotter

@Burgi not MARTHA STEWARD>

:/

she was the best one

Tom Wijsman

@Burgi your collection of files?

Burgi

i used to have a little app from gigabyte that popped up when i plugged stuff into the audio jacks

i cannot for the life of me find it on the gigabyte website

Tom Wijsman

What, they have no backup? I suggest going old school, use their driver CD... 8-)

DeerSpotter

21:58

probably one of those cd's that came with the motherboards that we all installed just because we were soo excited

Tom Wijsman

@DeerSpotter I was first xD

Burgi

@TomWijsman and looking for the original disc is going to be an exercise in futility

DeerSpotter

do you have a previous versions on the startup folder?

Tom Wijsman

do you have a previous version of your CD collection?

djsmiley2k

wait a moment

@TomWijsman frmo #gentoo!?

Burgi

21:59

i've been through it

Tom Wijsman

/me hides in plain sight

djsmiley2k

:O

Tom Wijsman

@djsmiley2k Yes

djsmiley2k

wow. Hi :D

my brain couldn't compute for a second

Burgi

can @djsmiley2k have your autograph?

djsmiley2k

22:00

'I recognise the nick' but not here..

Tom Wijsman

Did they still not kick me from the developers' list? xD

djsmiley2k

prob not XD

Tom Wijsman

I wanted to come back, but changed minds again, not sure if I want in or out

djsmiley2k

just ask bonsai#

Tom Wijsman

I'm really testing the one commit a year joke

Burgi

22:02

@TomWijsman is your commit just to increment the year in the copyright notice?

djsmiley2k

he inserts the leap seconds

Tom Wijsman

@Burgi Yes, even GnuPG signed xD

djsmiley2k

last year was especially busy

Tom Wijsman

@Burgi No, I pushed a Linux kernel

djsmiley2k

@TomWijsman lejonet says hi

DeerSpotter

22:03

@Burgi download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Driver/…

Burgi

google do that fuzzy leap second that they stretch out over an hour

Tom Wijsman

I don't see lejonet here?

djsmiley2k

He's not

I'm on IRC :P

Tom Wijsman

But send him hi back

Burgi

@DeerSpotter thats just the driver which i already have

djsmiley2k

22:04

k, i'm bored again now

Burgi

!!shall i have another beer?

ChatBot John Cavil

@Burgi Definitely

Burgi

w00t

djsmiley2k

!!is it a school night?

ChatBot John Cavil

@djsmiley2k Nope

@djsmiley2k Of course!

Tom Wijsman

22:05

@djsmiley2k I was trying to get back in the teams I was, but had no response for hours so I was kinda disappointed; ended up getting contact from the kernel team, so I did a commit there ... after which I disappeared because life

djsmiley2k

life sucks sometimes

ah well

thanks for your time at least, I'm sure you've assisted me with at least one stupid thing

Tom Wijsman

Wanted to do it as a distraction, but I've got other distractions now

djsmiley2k

and wiktor_b says 'come here'

D:

Tom Wijsman

_chat?

djsmiley2k

yup

well -chat

Tom Wijsman

22:06

See, I haven't been around for a while, haha

Imma hop over, if this UEFI next boot adjustment thing still works

See you after a reboot 8-)

Burgi

@djsmiley2k its a friday tomorrow we have nandos and beer o'clock

djsmiley2k

xD good luck

@Burgi your making me sad again

One day someone online is going to be local to me, and offer me an awesome jorb with awesome money and let me work from home and be happy anf styufff

Hennes

I just wanted some water... https://t.co/gdhXKvbNbz

Tweeted by find_evil on January 5, 2017 at 3:19 AM

Tom Wijsman

@djsmiley2k Before I reboot, wat:

Burgi

have i shown you guys my office after they made us move floors before xmas?

we've got swings and astroturf

djsmiley2k

22:08

wat wat wat wat wat wat wat

also @Burgi wat?1

Tom Wijsman

Pretty sure I can recover Windows ^_^

djsmiley2k

dats.... wat

Tom Wijsman

There used to be just two entries after the Gentoo install, not sure what happened after that (except for activating fast ring builds)

djsmiley2k

lots of roll backs I'd understand at least

allquixotic

@TomWijsman :( Windows encountered a problem. The exception was: TOO_MANY_RECOVERY_PARTITIONS_WHAT_IS_THIS_EVEN

djsmiley2k

22:11

it's windows recoveries all the way down.

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k probably rollbacks from all the fast ring builds

djsmiley2k

whats a fast ring build vbtw?

LOTR: TLDR version

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k developer pre-releases of Windows 10 that you can subscribe to through windows update; basically using users as a guinea pig

fast ring is more like alpha builds; slow ring is more like beta builds

djsmiley2k

ah ok

ty for education

allquixotic

then there's "just give me the latest stable", which is the default setting, and "Defer Upgrades", which is "give me the latest stable after it's been generally available for a few months"

then there's "I'm an old curmudgeon", which is the default for large enterprise IT shops

basically a spectrum of how fresh you want your Windows builds to be, ranging from hipster / Dreamspark kiddie to old hand who still curses at the absence of the Program Manager and dosshell

Burgi

22:18

the gigabyte DVD (if it still exists) is in the shed and -3C outside

almost too cold to go get a beer from the shed

DeerSpotter

@Burgi IS THAT IT

Burgi

sort of but it was gigabyte branded and had a more modern UI

oh nvm it was already installed

djsmiley2k

LOL

Burgi

it just didn't pop up when i plugged in my headphones

DeerSpotter

@Burgi gigabyte.com/service/windows/w10.aspx?pid=5441

since i am seeing aero i am assuming7

but 10 link should work

Burgi

22:29

@DeerSpotter thanks for your google fu but i found out it was already installed and i was just being numb

djsmiley2k

numb?

]lols

DeerSpotter

@djsmiley2k my peasantry's

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Yeah, he's had too many jars :)

Burgi

the jam messes with mah head!

DeerSpotter

1 Kings 17:12

Burgi

22:31

so that girl from NYE... i think she might be my girlfriend now

she bought me lego and beer

DeerSpotter

@Burgi none stop texts, or she found the key under the mat?

Burgi

lego and beer dude!

DeerSpotter

L'Eggo My Eggo Commercial 1972

►

Burgi

well the reinstall hasn't fixed the unrecognised BT dongle issue

DeerSpotter

@Burgi gigabyte.com/support-downloads/accessory.aspx?cg=2

which one

Burgi

22:36

3

Q: Unknown USB Device - Bluetooth Dongle

I have a generic bluetooth dongle that I got several years ago. I tried to use it today on my Windows 10 PC and I got an error saying it wasn't able to install the drivers. The device manager says it cannot find the device descriptor. I've tried different USB ports (USB 2 and USB 3) with the s...

DeerSpotter

@Burgi check your power options, make sure that none of your devices go to idle for power savings in the advanced settings.

Burgi

it works in the side of my screen

its no big deal

DeerSpotter

DavidPostill

@DeerSpotter Power options have nothing to do with not being able to install the drivers.

DeerSpotter

@DavidPostill if it doesnt see your device then yes it does

you could also unpack your driver with 7-zip and manually install them

DavidPostill

22:44

@DeerSpotter No it doesn't. USB is plug and play. When you plug it in it has power.

It doesn't straight away go idle.

WHATEVER Dave

Does that still apply if you have PNP O/S disabled in bios?

I have no idea

/me sigh

Burgi

i think its probably just a super cheap super generic chinese dongle

DeerSpotter

also driver booster free, still offers driver updates free for each one individually

it finds the drivers for you

you never have to buy the software

lol

Bob

@Dog :(

DeerSpotter

just click on each one once

WHATEVER Dave

22:46

i dont trust those guys... unsigned drivers from unverifiable sources = broken or hacked.

Burgi

you know what i actually have the driver cd for it

DeerSpotter

not sure if this could be the issue: i.gyazo.com/c2acfb111e496d8a6c34bbfae4c95fe5.png

your usb is still 1.0

Bob

@Burgi Nvidia driver related. Reported as bug a few days ago. bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1328082

They'll probably have a workaround soon-ish. Marked as P2 critical.

DavidPostill

@WHATEVERDave iobit are normally pretty good. I haven't heard anything bad about them anyways.

WHATEVER Dave

coolcool

Burgi

22:48

@Bob ah it only happens when i'm streaming the radio

DeerSpotter

@DavidPostill can you charge your phone on that port that is causing trouble?

WHATEVER Dave

I had a bad experience with Nvidia ION and linux.. apparently the *nix drivers dont support hdmi audio :( (Remix OS)

Bob

@DeerSpotter "driver booster" sounds about as safe as an auto download/run script off limewire, and significantly less safe than setting my computer on fire.

DeerSpotter

@Bob i have tried it, and it works, i was surprised

i usually dont trust shit like that

Bob

rootkitCount += 1

WHATEVER Dave

22:49

@Bob: lol yeah

DavidPostill

@DeerSpotter What? I don't have any ports causing trouble. You are replying to the wrong person ...

DeerSpotter

i mean i do run maleware protection just incase

but it does actually update my drivers

WHATEVER Dave

i probably have a rootkitcount presently of 10 or so

come at me bro

;D

Bob

@DeerSpotter antiviruses/antimalware are only slightly more useful than setting my computer on fire

DeerSpotter

@WHATEVERDave i can confirm that based off your mac address and the fact that its on the list im looking at, you have at least 1

Burgi

22:52

lol

WHATEVER Dave

RootKitName = Windows 10

Found it

Better uninstall quick

Ill get right on that

DeerSpotter

@WHATEVERDave i feels you my man, stop codes are a trick of censorship.

Burgi

i'll have found my USB cable by the time this finishes

DeerSpotter

@Bob id still rather live in a house that was inspected and coated in fire retardent

WHATEVER Dave

Have a great evening guys. GL with your issue DeerSpotter.

DeerSpotter

22:55

@WHATEVERDave i know, these mods jeeesh

Bob

except the fire retardant is flammable

and occasionally spontaneously combusts

DeerSpotter

@Bob its a controlled flame

DavidPostill

They are not unsigned. "To ensure the safety of users’ computer, only qualified WHQL drivers are provided by Driver Booster 4."
---
For device drivers passing the WHQL tests, Microsoft creates a digitally signed certification file.

DeerSpotter

@Bob i always wondered why fireman are good at lighting fires

WHATEVER Dave

@DavidPostill: BOPS YOU IN THE HEAD Thanks for that

Later all.

Oh yeah... Sleep for once... Sheesh

Pce

DeerSpotter

22:57

oh well, lets see if i can subtlety d.... nevermind.. have a good night guys :P

ill spend my 6 days working this out i guess

Bob

@DeerSpotter wait, what's wrong?

DeerSpotter

@Bob for some reason a bot suspended my account, and challenged me in a way that sounded "come at me bro"

Ben N

Suspensions are never automated

DeerSpotter

:P

allquixotic

@Bob read the star wall and the scrollback

Burgi

22:59

@Bob especially the fish stuff, that was quite funny

DeerSpotter

ah but there is a fine line between human and bot, .... no humans here

Dog

@Bob What? Why :(?

Bob

@Dog I wanted overkill!

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