Root Access

HackToHell

09:01

ruby is more annoying than python

Installing shit takes forever

Is there something similar to anaconda in python for ruby

tereško

And running ruby apps (which usually are rails apps) take a metric fuckton of ram

Burgi

what was the original purpose of ruby?

Jeremy John

09:19

Hi guys is there anyway to download OSX Sierra without app store? my current macbook pro 10.10.2 does not aloow me to download Sierra because it says my OS is not compatible with it

HackToHell

@tereško Solidus is taking 400 MB :O

Burgi

@JeremyJohn no, i have the same problem with my macbook

tereško

@HackToHell GitLab takes 2GB as minimum

HackToHell

Our instance uses a lot too 4.96 GB / 6.8 GB

There's nothing else on that node

Burgi

i've taken the fact i can't run it as a hint from Apple that i need to spend more money with them

HackToHell

09:23

It's still slow af .-.

Bob

@JeremyJohn ...if it's not compatible, what exactly are you planning to do with it? o.O

Burgi

they are still doing security updates for el capitan

Jeremy John

its not for my macbook its for my hackingtosh

Burgi

SE doesn't allow questions about hackingtoshes due to the legal issues with them

Jeremy John

oh it's not legal?

Burgi

09:36

no

Jeremy John

didn't know that

@bob

Burgi

OSX is only licensed to run on apple hardware

Jeremy John

@bob are you Bob Pony from youtube?

@burgi I see

Burgi

40

Q: Are "Hackintosh" questions allowed?

I've seen questions about pirating software down voted and closed. I'm wondering if Hackintosh questions are also disallowed? If so, why?

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi However, questions about hacking networks and removing DRM is absolutely cool

17

Q: Should questions about hacking networks be allowed?

I recently stumbled upon some questions blatantly asking for help in cracking wireless security passwords (Have a look at the tag aircrack-ng). Should those be flagged as "unwanted in our community"? This question is similar, but I am asking specifically about hacking into a wireless network. Th...

discussion

123

Q: Is discussion of techniques for removing DRM permitted?

I just asked a question about how to remove DRM from Kindle books that I had purchased and it was promptly closed by the moderator studiohack with the following comment: We don't encourage this kind of behavior here on Super User, thus off-topic. However, before posting this question I did ...

discussion off-topic policy

But don't you dare asking about installing OSX on non-Apple hardware! O____o

Burgi

09:48

@OliverSalzburg i'm only repeating what i have been told in the past

Oliver Salzburg

Yeah, we're weird sometimes ;P

Burgi

i was under the impression that the ruling on hackintosh issues had come from the SE orbiting HQ rather than the community

Oliver Salzburg

Yeah, I dunno. 2010 was a long time ago

P.Meyer

10:30

Is it ok to ask questions to collect use-cases/best-practice, not some specific question? I am thinking about use-cases for file-system options on linux - as there are just too many possibilities (xattr, acl, mount-options, inotify, different filesystems..) and I keep on searching about those tools without finding concrete answers to specific questions to achieve a goal. This type of question seems better suited to some wiki format, but I have been unable to finde something existing.

Bob

@JeremyJohn ...no?

Burgi

@P.Meyer as a sort of general reference question?

maybe you should ask it as a sandbox question on [msu] to gauge potential reactions?

Journeyman Geek

10:46

@P.Meyer kinda too broad

and people literally can write books on it.

@Burgi oddly, it came from a mod who is no longer around I thought

Bob

nooooo

I think I just missed this

64 GB RAM :(

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek hackintosh?

Journeyman Geek

yup

though explictly asking " where do I download OS X not from apple" can be piracyish

and bad

P.Meyer

@Journeyman: Yeah it's broad. But it's also too specific as to warrant books. There are loads of books with general Linx-filesystem introductions, but I have yet to find something in a cook-book style fashion that answers specific setups with concrete answers. For programming there are such books, but I have yet to finde something for linux/unix like that.

Bob

@P.Meyer General idea? Use the defaults (they're chosen for a reason!) unless you specifically need to change an option.

Journeyman Geek

10:57

yup

Bob

The vast majority of the time whatever the default settings are will be juuuuuuuuuust fine.

P.Meyer

For me this journey started with something like "how to setup student submission folder". I then read about inotify, acl, stumbled upon more things like suid and how /tmp is setup. It all seems so interdependent and also so specific that it's hard to find how to setup something like my original question.

So it started me thinking if there are websites/wikis that do something like use-cases and answers on the specific topic of filesystems. I have yet to find it.

Bob

@P.Meyer that's the best way to learn imo :P

start with a project and get lost in a maze of links

but, yea, I haven't come across any 'general' guides

Burgi

is sysinternals still a thing?

Bob

yea?

Burgi

11:12

getting a 404 on the downloads for one of the tools

technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/Utilities/Filemon.html

Bob

> FileMon and Regmon are no longer available for download. They have been replaced by Process Monitor on versions of Windows starting with Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows Vista.

Burgi

ah the article i'm reading is from 2005

blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/david.wang/2005/07/15/…

> 401.3 Denied by Resource ACL

Bob

[Window Title]
::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\0\::{74246BFC-4C96-11D0-ABEF-0020AF6B0B7A}

[Content]
::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\0\::{74246BFC-4C96-11D0-ABEF-0020AF6B0B7A}

The stub received bad data.


[OK]

that can't be good

Burgi

the epiphany hat is being applied early

FF is also very unstable recently

Bob

12:26

@Burgi how so?

I've not had any problems

djsmiley2k

12:36

if it can't deal with 800 tabs it's not good enough :O

Burgi

12:47

@Bob i think its a local issue

next time it does it i'll pull up the crash dump

@DavidPostill the epiphany hat is appearing a day early

Bob

@Burgi about:crashes

Burgi

@Bob soon™

@Bob crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/…

i think it was the flash decoder

DavidPostill

13:05

227

Q: Why are date-based hats awarded too early?

I just got the And I Feel Fine hat which states "post or vote on December 21". Does SE have a time machine now?

bug status-bydesign winterbash

Burgi

ah

i'm 5th in the hats!

DavidPostill

13:25

@Burgi :)

Journeyman Geek

14:27

Nothing to see here move along

@tereško typically people don't mind tho ;p

tereško

it's just misleading, since the AMD event was supposed to be online, but the ve.ga page crashed and burned

Journeyman Geek

lol

Burgi

what got nuked from here....

allquixotic

wow, the virtio balloon driver is potentially useful

Journeyman Geek

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG!

;p

@Burgi @tereško linked the wrong video, and it felt appropriate to remove all trace of context

allquixotic

14:36

virsh setmem blah 8G on a VM originally allocated 16G causes the balloon driver to appear to be "taking up" 8 GB of RAM in the guest's world, but on the host OS that RAM is actually available to be used (i.e., free)

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek ok

allquixotic

so I can slightly overprovision my guest's RAM and let the balloon "pop" if it comes under high mem pressure

Burgi

i might sabotage the sonos tomorrow morning

i can hear the crap music over my headphones

That Brazilian Guy

14:58

> In the process, the scientists fed the neural network a total of 1856 ID photos of men with no facial hair between the ages of 18 and 56, only half of whom had a criminal past. The researchers only used 90 percent of the photos to train the AI to recognize the differences between the two groups, and used the remaining 10 percent for testing purposes.

> The outcome was impressive. Apparenly, the neural network could tell criminals apart from non-criminals with a stunning accuracy of 89.5 percent.

thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2016/11/25/…

djsmiley2k

Why no facial hair?

and why 1856 photos, why not 1500, or 2000?

That Brazilian Guy

Because scinece!

djsmiley2k

185 photos for testing, that's not much.

so 90~ crims, 90~ non crims

89.5% hit rate

11% chance of wrong

11% of 90 is...

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k does anyone james may call em crims?

djsmiley2k

9.something

HackToHell

15:01

You expand AI as Air India, Truely BS Standards @bsindia https://t.co/MznvJwf3tX

Tweeted by logic on January 5, 2017 at 12:04 PM

Indian media is smartz

Journeyman Geek

lol

I wouldn't bet anything on air india ;p

@Bob pets.stackexchange.com/questions/16051/stray-dog-or-fox

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek lol, typical hicks not knowing the difference between canine and vulpine

or maybe they're just being super sophisticated taxonomists and using the term "dog" to refer to any canid generically (which a fox is)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Burgi

can someone flag this as NAA superuser.com/a/1163780/393570

its a fracking comment

ty!

allquixotic

15:22

!!info

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic I awoke on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 00:53:52 GMT (that's about 14 hours ago), got invoked 3 times

HackToHell

!!die

ChatBot John Cavil

@HackToHell I will shut up after 1 more invocations.

Burgi

!!die

did it work?

Journeyman Geek

!!live

allquixotic

15:23

looks like I need to grab this commit

Journeyman Geek

yeah, I think you killed ~~kenny~~ cavill you...

!!life

allquixotic

unfortunately my local tree has uncommitted changes

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek I KILLED THE FRACKING TOASTER!!!

:D

allquixotic

!!info

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic I awoke on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 15:32:25 GMT (that's about 27 seconds ago), haven't done anything yet!

Burgi

15:33

!!die

ChatBot John Cavil

@Burgi You do not have permission to use the command die

Burgi

dangit

Andy K

16:31

bye folks

Dog

Boris_yo

Have DELL laptop with "IDT High Definition Audio". Often I have it not outputting audio through headphones when connecting them and only speakers work. They all connect through 1 3.5mm jack (audio and recording)

This is heaphone connected but speaker playing with Winamp.

This is when I click on some dialog box which makes normal Windows sound.

Burgi

what is showing in the default audio playback thing?

Boris_yo

You can see as if both are separate channels. Yet, I don't hear anything through headphones. Only restarting helps. Tried logging out, does not help.

Burgi

16:47

@Boris_yo can you set the headphones as default?

Boris_yo

Did that. Does not help.

Sounds disappears in the middle of OS running sometimes.

Burgi

drivers?

Boris_yo

Sounds like audio driver might be crashing?

But how do you restart audio driver?

Burgi

have you checked for driver updates?

Boris_yo

Think suddenly driver that got old started doing that?

djsmiley2k

16:51

whoop

someone pointed out I've got 2 extra shifts that I wouldn't normally be paid for

Boris_yo

What's all these WsAudios...

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy LOL. Now all criminals will grow beards => Anyone with a beard must be a criminal. I wonder how many Santas will get arrested next Christmas?

djsmiley2k

Welp Hipster beards ARE criminal :P

DavidPostill

I mostly have a beard as I hate shaving and I'm lazy. It gets removed every 3/4 weeks :)

Burgi

i have a controlling interest on the star wall :)

3

Dog

17:11

@Bob just get a decent 450w

bwDraco

anandtech.com/show/11002/the-amd-vega-gpu-architecture-teaser

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill i pretty much have a goatie for this reason

bwDraco

Among other things, AMD is implementing a tiled renderer, following in the footsteps of NVIDIA.

djsmiley2k

same length of time too, blessed with the worlds slowest growing facial hair (while still infact growing)

bwDraco

tomshardware.com/news/…

Dog

17:17

@Bob then you're not pushing it hard enough

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k LOL. I do the same with my head as well - although not much grows there anymore :)

Dog

My GTX 970 could eat up 300w if I wanted it to. Furmark makes it draw 230w at stock clockspeeds...

bwDraco

New on-chip High-Bandwidth Cache and Next-generation Compute Unit.

Dog

@JourneymanGeek Or, yknow, they want to support more than one NVMe SSD...

bwDraco

The ability to operate on different kinds of workloads within each clock cycle.

Dog

17:21

One NVMe SSD copying to one USB 3.1 port on an Intel system will already overload its bandwidth and lose performance.

Burgi

FFS! FRACKING MINION! >:(

bwDraco

Higher clocks and higher IPC.

Dog

Evidently AMD have some actual foresight and are not deliberately gimping and de-futureproofing their shit to force people to upgrade year after year

Burgi

we are having an issue with a supplier and they asked him to whitelist some domains which i told him to forward on to our IT company to do over xmas

djsmiley2k

@Burgi in the pub again? or just drinking your blood?

oh dear....

he blacklisted them?

Burgi

17:23

no he didn't contact our IT company at all

so i was shouting at our supplier and noticed the domains weren't whitelisted

Dog

@Bob Not really, considering how much hardware you can still buy that doesn't even support PCIe 3 yet...

Burgi

so i phoned the IT company to shout at them and discovered no ticket had been raised

oh and look at that... whitelisting the domains has fixed the issue

i have a small but growing list of stuff i need to address with him

djsmiley2k

oh dear

Hennes

For many devices there is not even a need for PCI-e v3. E.g. an add in audiocard usually can do fine with PCIe v1 x1. Why upgrade?

djsmiley2k

oh der oh dear oh dear

this is when he tells you he hates life etc.

Hennes

17:36

If he hates his life he should start writing about politics.

Dog

@Hennes hardly many when an audio card is basically the only device...

allquixotic

@Hennes the main things that need more than one lane (and/or higher revisions of PCIe) are RAID cards, PCIe SSDs, GPUs, and Thunderbolt / USB 3.1 Gen2 add-in cards.

Hennes

Agreed.

Dog

USB ports... need more. SATA ports... need more. SSDs... need more. Thunderbolt ports... need more.

allquixotic

I'd say that's a longer list than the much shorter list of PCIe peripherals that don't need more than PCIe v1 x1: sound cards and WiFi cards

Dog

17:40

@allquixotic eSATA does need more...

So do USB 3 cards

Hennes

And TV capture cards, frame frabbers, samplers, gamepad interfaces (ok, there day those might do USB), serial ports, paralelel ports, ..... and probably a few more

midi interfaces...

Simple 1Gbit NICs (single or dual)

Dog

eSATA = 6Gbps. USB 3 = 5Gbps. PCIe 1 x1 = 2.5Gbps

Hennes

Lets upgrade to x1 at PCIe v2. Probably the lowest thing you can reasonably buy atm.

And yes, eSATA at 6Bit/sec would still be limited by that.

Dog

WiFi cards... You can stretch 802.11ac to about 3Gbps theoretical maximum but the post-AC standard starts at 7Gbps

Also SATA Express but nobody uses that

Hennes

I do miss expansion options though. Before a motherboard would have 3x ISA and 5x PCI or similar. But these days most boards are filtered out when you set something like "minimal 3x PCIe at x8".

Wifi AD is short range IIRC.

Dog

17:45

However SATA Express is sometimes used as a kludgey route to USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt

Hennes

And current AC is mostly up to 1900Mbit/sec.

Mostly as in, look at AC products on the market. None or not many above that speed

Best I have seen in practise is 866Mbit/sec archived link speed.

Dog

And those need at least 10Gbps per USB port

djsmiley2k

hmmm

how to share 40Mb of files with a customer

Dog

@Hennes that's because only Macbook Pro's are capable of 1.3Gbps

djsmiley2k

when we can only send 10Mb attachments :/

DavidPostill

17:46

@djsmiley2k ftp server?

djsmiley2k

I mean I've stuck it on their desktop of their system

Hennes

FTP? Telex?

djsmiley2k

but they are on their own laptop and I have no access to that

Hennes

sFTP?

djsmiley2k

trying to see if we have a ftp or something now :/

DavidPostill

17:48

If it is on their desktop they can share the directory and grab it from their laptop

djsmiley2k

hmmm they could if they understood anything

I doubt the laptop is on the same network tbh

it's a shop after all

Hennes

TEamviewer in (TV is almost idiot proof) and copy it that way?

DavidPostill

+1 TV into the laptop.

HackToHell

18:14

facebook.com/minliangtan/videos/1280388998685546

cc @JourneymanGeek ^

WHATEVER Dave

hi

whats new?

DavidPostill

@WHATEVERDave Read the transcript :)

WHATEVER Dave

not talking about transcript wise =P

anybody get any good xmas gifts?

DavidPostill

Everything is shiny and new - its a New Year :)

WHATEVER Dave

nice my new years resolution is 1024x768.. same as last year

my eyes are starting to get bad though, I may switch to 800x600.. I donno

Need to go to the eye doc

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:35

Hi! Could you help me installing win10?

allquixotic

@QuicoLlinaresLlorens can you be a little more specific? what OS are you currently running? do you have a license? what have you tried? what installation media are you using?

Quico Llinares Llorens

ok, sorry

The computer is not mine

a friend has leave me to reinstall windows

because it is going very slow

it is running now windows 8

I thought that the option to reinstall windows it was on it

but it isn't

so I have donwloaded win 10 and I am trying to install

I have used LiLi to burn the .iso of win10 in my usb

then I boot from the usb, and I try to install windows 10

but I get an error when it says that I haven't drivers that Win10 needs

That Brazilian Guy

@QuicoLlinaresLlorens LiLi is the LinuxLive USB Creator, aimed at creating Linux install media.

Quico Llinares Llorens

it doesn't work for win10?

When I put the iso, it said that it was going to burn as windows 10 iso

That Brazilian Guy

Why not use the official Microsoft tool created for this very purpose?

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:41

I didn't know it

I always have boot from linux os, so I have never had problems with LiLi

thanks!

It is needed a paid license?

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill sorted it

Quico Llinares Llorens

I am using a .iso that I have found in piratebay

2

djsmiley2k

called him, he didn't even want it on the laptop

just in the past someone had sent him various bits of the training guide via email and so it was on his laptop

xD

That Brazilian Guy

@QuicoLlinaresLlorens For the tool? No. For Windows? Do you really need to ask?

djsmiley2k

rofl

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:44

I mean. Can I use my .iso from piratebay with the tool no?

djsmiley2k

1 min ago, by Quico Llinares Llorens

I am using a .iso that I have found in piratebay

flashing red lights

Why get an iso from pirate bay, when MS give you them freely?

That Brazilian Guy

@QuicoLlinaresLlorens Sorry, I can't, don't want to, and won't help you with piracy. I have deleted the links and messages with any helping info.

Quico Llinares Llorens

Can i get for free?

djsmiley2k

the ISO? yes

you need a key

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k Is Windows 10 still free? Hasn't the free period ended last year or something?

djsmiley2k

18:46

@ThatBrazilianGuy dunno about that

the ISO is free

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k I'm strongly suspecting he doesn't own a key.

Quico Llinares Llorens

yes

you are right

djsmiley2k

go and get one

He might be a student and MS might do student ones, get isn't a bad word.

allquixotic

MS doesn't give away Windows 10 for free to students

they give away Server 2016 though

Quico Llinares Llorens

yes I can get server 2016

That Brazilian Guy

18:47

@allquixotic I got my copy from DreamSpark.

Quico Llinares Llorens

but I don't want it

Hennes

Having the precise error message would help.
Also, make sure that the pendrive is USB3. Windows 10 installs fail if you 'burn' an win10 iso to an USB2 pendrive

That Brazilian Guy

If you're doing it as a favor for a friend and neither of you want to pay, install Linux.

> Windows 10 installs fail if you 'burn' an win10 iso to an USB2 pendrive

WTF

Quico Llinares Llorens

but he doesn't know linux

Hennes

Sad experience here.

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:49

okay, I have look at dreamspark

but if I download the win10

for him I won't be able to use it in a future?

I mean, is it only for use 1 time?

Hennes

It boots, then states it needs drivers unless you booted from DVD or USB.
Can repeat that all day long on two Z170 systems. Always fails on USB2.
Always works with an USB3 pendrive in the same USB slots

allquixotic

@QuicoLlinaresLlorens the license keys from dreamspark are one-use; if you manage to get one, it'll only activate on one machine

Quico Llinares Llorens

I will try with mediacreationtool

with my iso

if not work I will try with my iso

Hennes

I suspect it has to do with Z170 being USB3 controller only until drivers are loaded.

Quico Llinares Llorens

thanks for your help guys

djsmiley2k

18:51

ur iso is likely bad.

That Brazilian Guy

@QuicoLlinaresLlorens Mint + this cinnamon theme

Quico Llinares Llorens

@Hennes I have tried with all usbs

Hennes

I tried with all USB ports (on all three chips parts).

Quico Llinares Llorens

@ThatBrazilianGuy If it was for me I would choose other thing, but it is not

Hennes

I had to order an USB3 pendrive (all I had where USB2 and eSATA pendrive) to get it to work.

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:52

@Hennes Do you think if I try with a CD it will work?

Hennes

As to being able to afford. I got a legal win 10 for Eur 31.
Took quite some shopping around.
So you may not have the time for that, but it does not need to be expensive

I no longer had optical media or floppy drives

So no testing done here.

Regardless, try it. And if it fails write down the precise error message.

And check how the computer is configured (AHCI, backward ATA compatability mode? Intel fake RAID?

Quico Llinares Llorens

ok, I am going to try with the tool of microsoft

if not work then with cd

and if not, I think I will use my dreamspark win10

Hennes

Esp. if it is an old computer. It might simply not have the driver for that.

Quico Llinares Llorens

and if not I am going to kill myself

Hennes

example, Win10 install on my 2009 era (ich7?) laptop in ATA mode.
It does not have an ICH7 AHCI driver

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:55

It is a pentium

3

Hennes

A precise model please. I had a pentium 100 (ages ago) and I have a Skylake pentium.

Quico Llinares Llorens

sorry

Hennes

decades difference between those two systems

Quico Llinares Llorens

pentium cpu 997

1,6 Ghz

4GB RAM

Hennes

4GiB should be plenty. But which motherboard? (so we can llookup which chipset and on-board devices)

Quico Llinares Llorens

18:57

Where can I see it? I think in BIOS it is not shown

Hennes

Uhm. Printed on the box? Printed on the motherboard? On the sales slip your friend hopefully still has?

Given an ark.intel.com/products/69360/… it should be be an too old system

That CPU is from end 2012

djsmiley2k

4~ years, and I doubt they brought it brand new

(i.e. at chip launch)

Hennes

If it was much older it might not have had NX/ND (which win10 claims to need)

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