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That Brazilian Guy

00:59

Somebody kill me please

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Hennes

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Q: We need feedback about our Alpha version

guys I am wondering, if you are the developers and we are a startup that creates a tool for developers, would you be interested in providing us with a feedback about our solution? bNesis is a Unified API service that reduces complexity of integration with multiple cloud, social, payment, analytic...

windows-7 windows-10 android api saas

Weird 'not-a-question'

Burgi

flagged

@bwDraco my dad used to make sufactants

bwDraco

Folks, be advised that I'm tethering from my phone and will need to do this for the next couple of days as my only means of Internet access, so please keep the animated GIFs sane. Thanks.

(ISP will come on Monday to install service)

That Brazilian Guy

@bwDraco Use an image proxy.

bwDraco

01:43

@ThatBrazilianGuy lol!

Journeyman Geek

02:11

@Hennes yeah.

2 hours later…

Journeyman Geek

04:12

@Bob @allquicatic I may be late/unavailable today

apparently I got drafted into a post lunch baking good shop run

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ah

2 hours later…

Journeyman Geek

06:37

back

Bob

07:09

user image

DavidPostill

07:56

morning peeps

djsmiley2k

08:47

morning

Hennes

09:19

Morning

djsmiley2k

09:31

much occuring?

@Bob what phone is that??

Bob

@djsmiley2k dunno, think it was an iphone 7

djsmiley2k

lul k, not yours then?

Bob

nup

djsmiley2k

i mean its good there's an alternative, but it cant be that old

tchakravarty

10:03

Hi all. I was trying to sync my Exchange server with Gmail using POP for backup, but that appears to have have been disabled by the administrator: superuser.com/q/242653/133750

What is the best way to sync Exchange with another web-based email client?

Bob

@tchakravarty The way your admin supports.

tchakravarty

What might some of those options be? For the uninitiated?

Bob

If they don't support any, you need to convince them to allow you to.

tchakravarty

So that I can ask intelligent questions when I talk to them? :)

DavidPostill

@tchakravarty It is likely that the admin has locked your exchange down in order to prevent work emails being copied outside of your workplace ...

tchakravarty

10:06

Obviously, I can set up forwarding rules. And it does allow me to sync to Outlook, even on my personal devices, so clearly it is not something that is completely ruled out.

Bob

@tchakravarty Typical? ActiveSync, IMAP, POP.

The first being Exchange-specific, other two standard/generic.

But it really doesn't matter if they don't allow you to use one.

If they do, then you have to use whichever they allow or ask for another.

tchakravarty

Yes, then my perspective shifts to questioning how effective this (blocking POP etc.) is, given that I can sync to Outlook anway.

I guess my question then is, how can I use/emulate the same mechanism by which Exchange allows (any, even personal device) Outlook to sync to Exchange, and sync to a platform (like Gmail) that I feel more confrotable with.

Bob

The simple answer is along the lines of "you don't".

tchakravarty

What is the protocol that Outlook uses to sync to Exchange? Are there any web email clients that provide that same protocol?

I should also note that I have OWA access.

Anything that it adds on that I can use to sync to a web email client?

@Bob Or should I just take that as another "no"? :)

Bob

@tchakravarty More or less.

tchakravarty

10:10

Cool.

One last question then. Can I sync exported PSTs somehow?

To a wen email client?

*web

Bob

ActiveSync is the standard-ish way. Outlook does some funky stuff with MAPI and COM.

tchakravarty

Alright, thanks. Will do some further research on this.

Bob

Not something you want to touch. Not something that anything else supports, AFAIK.

tchakravarty

But sounds like this is not possible.

Bob

Last I checked? No, it's not possible, without your admin allowing it.

tchakravarty

10:13

Cool, thanks for saving me a wild goose chase. :)

Bob

Feel free to prove me long.

tchakravarty

Shan't try very hard. :D

Bob

@tchakravarty If you want to copy emails out of an archive, I think the simplest method without weird hackery was to just add the other address as an IMAP account and literally copy emails between them within Outlook.

tchakravarty

@Bob Yes, tried that too. Adding email accounts outside the domain is not permitted to the same Outlook.

Bob

*shrug*

New mail profile

tchakravarty

10:19

@Bob I don't know what to tell you, but the copying of files from the Exchange account to the IMAP account within Outlook is working. At least locally. I will check to see if it does indeed sync to the web client.

If this works, this solves my problem fairly effectively, and I will set up a backup rule for this.

qasdfdsaq

Man these Xeon E3-v5 Skylake servers just keep flying off the shelves

Journeyman Geek

hm. That was a bust

Pasta was a failure. Pasta is never a failure :(

qasdfdsaq

Bust (magazine)

BUST Magazine is a women's lifestyle magazine that is published six times a year. The magazine is published by Debbie Stoller and Laurie Henzel. == Content == BUST covers music, news, crafts, art, sex, and fashion from an independent ("indie"), third wave feminist perspective. The magazine's slogan is "For women with something to get off their chest." In the book titled Girl Culture: An Encyclopedia Volume 1, Miranda Campbell wrote a section on Bust magazine and the consistent features of each issue which include: "Real Life: Crafts, Cooking, Home and Hearth" which encourages readers to make their...

tchakravarty

I remember that I was able to add an IMAP account to Outlook last time as well, but it error-ed out, and was removed. I think that there is some daemon that looks for these kinds of things and removes external domain accounts.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Admins spilling red bull over them again?

qasdfdsaq

10:21

@Bob Lol no idea

Every time Online restocks a new rack of them they're gone within 24 hours. Whereas everything else barely sells 1-2 a day

Bob

@tchakravarty Pretty sure that's not standard.

tchakravarty

Yep, sounds paranoid to me as well.

qasdfdsaq

Also morning Bob, and Doggy Doghan

tchakravarty

Might just have been a one-time glitch.

I will see how long this mount lasts.

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq DOX DOOOOOOOX

(I don't really bother, but meh)

Its like batman.

tchakravarty

10:23

But the backup seems to be working. I will wait to see if it syncs with the server as well (Live account).

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Is it really doxing when you dox yourself?

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq maybe

But its like batman

I'd likely respond if you went "hey geek?" IRL

qasdfdsaq

Yeah I don't really get that

I'd be really surprised if anyone went "Hey qasdfdsaq" in real life

Journeyman Geek

(also the vague internet culture thing of only using handles?)

qasdfdsaq

Not only because they'd be the first person to figure out how to pronounce it, where many have tried and failed

Bob

10:24

lol

Journeyman Geek

Probably that

tchakravarty

@Bob Wow, that actually really worked. Emails synced to server.

Thanks much.

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Yeah DavidPostill's handle seems to have gone awol

tchakravarty

Now all I have to do is set up a backup rule, and I think I am sorted.

Journeyman Geek

When I was young and angry, I toyed with changing my name legally to geek

qasdfdsaq

10:25

Huh, my identicon isn't identical to tchakravarty's identicon

@JourneymanGeek One of my friends legally changed their name to Attackbot

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq nope, just confusing similar when they're not next to each other

qasdfdsaq

Whole point of an identicon is it's meant to be identical, no?

Or does it mean ident-icon

tchakravarty

@qasdfdsaq Hello, and I would say the latter. but I am having trouble copying emails, so I might not be the best person to say. :)

qasdfdsaq

@tchakravarty Have you tried ~~Javascript~~ Powershell?

tchakravarty

To copy emails?

Overkill, surely?

Why stare at a blue screen when you can click buttons.

(It is opinions like this that get you banned on SU Chat?)

qasdfdsaq

10:28

Nah, it's more of an injoke

chat.stackexchange.com/…

Heck he used Powershell to solve a letter substitution quiz question

tchakravarty

I am no hacker unfortunately. But I can write a bit of bash.

qasdfdsaq

Even to me that seemed genius. And I'm the geniustest genius I know.

Journeyman Geek

@tchakravarty its pretty hard to get banned on RA

If you did, you probably deserve it

tchakravarty

I have been meaning to look at PS given that my present company is all Windows.

qasdfdsaq

@tchakravarty PS is just like Bash for Windows. Not

tchakravarty

10:31

@qasdfdsaq Haha, I am easily impressed.

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek I did several times and I didn't even try :-(

That said, it's only happened once this year, which is a lot less than last year

tchakravarty

@qasdfdsaq Yeah, I did get the feeling that most of PS was knowing long winded names to Windows cmdlet aliases.

qasdfdsaq

And i still say it was unfair sincei t was based on false allegations

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq That's because your name is unpronounceable to most people. Maybe a Khoisan speaker could manage it ...

qasdfdsaq

PS to me seems more like Microsoft wanted to keep VB ~~relevant~~ and bunged it into a shell

tchakravarty

10:33

I would say that I am more inclined to learn VB Shell than PS.

VB Script*

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq ???

qasdfdsaq

VBscript is my catchphrase!

(I could do that in Excel)

Also I managed to offend a hot girl yesterday by implying her mom was stupid.

Go me!

Also there were dogs. Dogs vs. cats in a public place is not a pretty fight

djsmiley2k

did u get drunk?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob HOLY BEJEESUS THAT IS EPIC

@djsmiley2k Cats don't drink human poison

@Rahul2001 Evidently

And why is it all these pings/notifications only ever come through 2+ days late

@DavidPostill !!!

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq I've been using the internet since before you were born. I'm not going to change my name just because you youngsters are afraid to use your real names. :)

qasdfdsaq

10:52

Who'd have guessed, my phone's mobile hotspot function stops working when you pull out the SIM card

djsmiley2k

lol]

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill And that sort of argumentative bragging is why you're blocked. Nobody asked you to change your name, and the internet didn't exist before I was born. Check your facts.

djsmiley2k

that' actually be annoying if you wanted to retrieve something off the phone and had no phyiscal connection and no sim card.

DavidPostill

11:11

I would be very surprised if you are older than 47. Please check your facts.

"The Internet was activated in 1969 as a network of university mainframe computers, making it 45 years old in 2014."

@qasdfdsaq ^^^

48 mins ago, by qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Yeah DavidPostill's handle seems to have gone awol

I was explaining why I don't have a handle. If I had a handle it would require me to change my name.

Hennes

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Presidential elections ?

DavidPostill

@Hennes LOL. That's a trunk not a trump :)

Hennes

Meh, maybe the candidate misspelled his name.
Actually, I doubt somewhat that his name stays the same, since everything else changes all the time.

Regardless, the image made me smile.

Burgi

in the UK "trump" is a type of fart

DavidPostill

11:37

@Burgi lol. I never heard that one :)

Hennes

Ditto. I know the (to my ears somewhat weird term) of blowing a raspberry.

But no the trump one.

DavidPostill

Hmm...

"Donald Trump on Saturday repeated his argument that the election is rigged against him and returned to his suggestion that Democratic rival Hillary Clinton appears physically unfit to be president -- so both of them should take a drug test."

Someone appears to be getting desperate ...

Hennes

Wow...cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html#version-history

There is a win98 version of CPU-Z. A recent one. Wow.

Burgi

12:19

@DavidPostill urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trump&defid=1477245

DavidPostill

@Burgi Yeah, I checked that when you made your post :)

Rahul2001

What's Wrong with Monopoly?

DavidPostill

Hmm. Blocking someone and leaving the room is a great way to convince everybody you are right (not).

1 hour ago, by qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill And that sort of argumentative bragging is why you're blocked. Nobody asked you to change your name, and the internet didn't exist before I was born. Check your facts.

1 hour ago, by DavidPostill

I would be very surprised if you are older than 47. Please check your facts.

"The Internet was activated in 1969 as a network of university mainframe computers, making it 45 years old in 2014."

1 hour ago, by DavidPostill

I was explaining why I don't have a handle. If I had a handle it would require me to change my name.

djsmiley2k

I don't think anyone thought she was right

Burgi

13:01

i've had the BEST week since i blocked that person last sunday

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill eh I think they just want to get a reaction out of people

Burgi

the drama level has plummeted

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Quite likely. I wouldn't have bothered responding if said person hadn't made it personal.

3 hours ago, by qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Yeah DavidPostill's handle seems to have gone awol

Without any explanation ...

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill which was likely the point of mentioning you

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek I actually don't care - but it's Sunday and I'm bored. So a bit of trolling sounded like fun :)

Burgi

13:15

UNLEASH THE GOATS!

Journeyman Geek

I was playing video games most of that time.

@Burgi who would leash a goat?

DavidPostill

Somebody clearly missed the smiley:

3 hours ago, by DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq I've been using the internet since before you were born. I'm not going to change my name just because you youngsters are afraid to use your real names. :)

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i'm only aware of the concept of goats i don't know the praticalities

SUPER CUTE DOG acts like a stuff toy to FOOL YOU

Journeyman Geek

Funny Goat Licks Dog!

DavidPostill

13:37

It's a real shame when someone who is clearly very intelligent (about technology) doesn't have the social skills to be nice to people they meet online ...

Journeyman Geek

13:50

@DavidPostill heh, I'm convinced my social skills are terrible

Bob

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source

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek heh. I've not noticed a problem :). For example you don't make outrageous unfounded accusations about people you don't know ... and you are prepared to discuss things instead of blocking people and behaving like an ostrich :)

Zeta.Investigator

Hi. I have a problem. My PC is stuck at ASUS Motherboard splash screen. It doesn't even respond to keyboard (so I can enter BIOS configs). What can I do?

I was messing with the order of boot loader in order to install Windows 10

In the process of installing, It restarted and stuck there

Bob

unplug the power, hold power button for 10 secs, plug power back in after

Hennes

If you still have BIOS rather than UEFI you can probably just clear all BIOS settings by cleaniong the CMOS storage.

Bob

14:01

(not kidding, sometimes the firmware gets stuck in a funny state that draining all power will fix)

Hennes

But do Bobs thing first. Much easier to start with

DavidPostill

@Zeta.Investigator Tech questions (unless they are very simple to answer) are best asked on the main site Super User. If you do that everybody (future visitors) gets the benefit of your question and any answers.

Hennes

Nods. It is one of the first things I do when a laptop is stuck.
Rarely though with a desktop (no idea why)

Bob

@Hennes technically, uefi vs bios doesn't really make a difference there

Zeta.Investigator

@Bob You mean I have to switch PC power off. You mean the motherboard has built in voltage source to detect the power button push?

Bob

14:02

some uefi firmware still stores in cmos w/ battery

others provide a button

Hennes

Why not. I usually read NVRAM (non-viotile RAM) with EFI. And battery backed is hardly NV.

Bob

@Zeta.Investigator no, you pull the plug so there's no external power, then you press the power button so it attempts to start (thus draining any charged capacitors in the PSU etc)

@Hennes is nvram a requirement of the uefi standard?

I didn't think so

Hennes

No, just often mentions.
But so is 'UEFI BIOS' which is not a BIOS at all.

Bob

@Hennes heh, I've taken to just calling it mobo firmware

it can implement the uefi standard or emulate a legacy pc bios, it's still firmware

Hennes

Which is correct.

Bob

14:04

because technically it's not (n)"a UEFI" either... UEFI is a standard, not any one implementation of the spec.

Zeta.Investigator

I unpluged main cable, held down Power for 10 seconds, pluged again, and turned it up. No difference

Hennes

And there is more under the sun than just BIOS compatible firmware and EFI compatible firmware.

Zeta.Investigator

I think it was UEFI before I messed with it

Bob

@Zeta.Investigator ah. perhaps try disconnecting all drives and UEB devices

that's another one I've noticed - a faulty USB device can stall init on my (MSI) mobo

afaik it tries to scan all attached devices for anything bootable, and can stall on that step

Zeta.Investigator

I unplugged everything, same issue

Bob

14:06

@Zeta.Investigator Oh. No beeps? I wonder if your mobo is one of those that indicates error states by lights on the mobo. Or, any characters on the screen? e.g. "B4", etc

motherboard model would help here

Zeta.Investigator

Plugged keyboard back. It doesn't even respond to keyboard (and asks "please press DEL or F2. The irony :'( )

I really don't know since it's my lab's PC. Maybe it is P5KPL/1600 or P5QL Pro

Where to look?

@Bob It beeps when it starts (but that is normal since it beeped when it was OK)

qasdfdsaq

Blargh

Bob

@Zeta.Investigator uhh. That implies POST success :S

I should sleep

Zeta.Investigator

@Bob POST?

@Bob Why doesn't it even repond to keyboard?

Hennes

USB keyboard or PS2 keyboard?

Zeta.Investigator

14:14

@Hennes USB

I was trying to get it too boot from USB

Before the problem

Whenever I changed the order and saved settings, It rolled back again to it's defualt

Hennes

Oh, never mind that keyboard question. I just looked the board up and it does not have USB3
(BIOS/UEFI and a keyboard in USB3 might be a problem), But all your ports are classic USB1.1/2.0

Zeta.Investigator

And so I did sth else (in advanced setting I suppose) and it successfully booted from my USB flash. Then in the process of installing windows 10, it restarted and stuck there

Hennes

I am surprised windows 10 work on an old setup.
Then again, I installed it yesterday on a Dell E6500 (ICH9 chipset) and yours is an ICH7

Zeta.Investigator

To be exact, it first boots to the ASUS splash screen (with the keyboard query F2 and DEL) THEN IT GOES BLACK A SECOND, Then it returns to that splash scree

realllly weired

@Hennes I'm not even sure of the model. It had windows 8 installed at it worked smooth. I also deleted all the partitions when I was partitioning in windows 10 setup

Really frustrated at the moment :'(

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And it has USB 3. As I said, I'm not sure about the model of the motherboard. I plugged my bootable USB flash for installing win10. Nothing happens

Journeyman Geek

14:39

@Hennes heh, anything as far as a c2d would handle windows 10

Hennes

Oh, I installed it on a Core2duo.

Still need to find the right way to get it working with AHCI though.

Journeyman Geek

@Zeta.Investigator I'd dig up a USB keyboard just to see what happens

Zeta.Investigator

@JourneymanGeek In fact I know it's CPU model. It is Core i3 - 4150. Is it of any help?

Journeyman Geek

er

PS/2

eh, that's reasonably modern

Actually, newer than my system

Zeta.Investigator

@JourneymanGeek You mean , I have to plug in a PS/2 keyboard and check whether it responds to it?

Journeyman Geek

14:42

yup

also turn off the PC, hold delete while turning it on

Ferrybig

Could someone give me some tips how I could improve the presentation of my question about turning of net::ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED on Google Chrome?

Journeyman Geek

"The reason for this is that when using an IPv6 connection, Windows adds a new IPv6 address to the ip list every X minutes. "

This is not correct behaviour

Zeta.Investigator

@JourneymanGeek It didn't work. I used PS/2 and I held delete. I also held delete for USB keyboard. Nothing happens. I unplugged all usb peripherals before checking PS/2 and I also did that 10seconds Power button thing

Journeyman Geek

hm

At this point I'd typically get fed up, unplug the computer then go to bed

(seriously)

Ferrybig

@JourneymanGeek I was always under the assumption that because of [RFC 7721: ](tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7721), windows had to keep creating new tempoary addresses to keep my privacy, the google chrome error is occuring at the moment the ipconfig screen output changes

Zeta.Investigator

14:51

@JourneymanGeek Why is it so that I'm always repairing computers? Since I was a kid actually. Now I'm master student of ee:controls and all of a sudden my PC breaks...#feels_bad_man

Journeyman Geek

@Ferrybig what are you using for ipv6?

@Zeta.Investigator Its the nature of the beast ;)

Zeta.Investigator

@JourneymanGeek Is it a proverb?

Journeyman Geek

possibly a metaphor

I don't literature good

Ferrybig

@JourneymanGeek My ISP provides IPv6, and my router propagates this over the network here as stateless configuration using only Router Advertisements, and Windows automatically configures ip addresses

Journeyman Geek

so SLAAC?

Zeta.Investigator

14:54

@JourneymanGeek Gonna find IT tech tomorrow. It is really shameful for an electrical engineer to ask for help for his PC #feels_bad_man

Journeyman Geek

Two points

1) This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is
published for informational purposes.

2) It was published this year

@Zeta.Investigator heh. Even IT folks sometimes need help

that's why this site exists

allquicatic

omnia.turris.cz/en o_O

Journeyman Geek

yeah, I think they KSed a while back

ahh indiegogo

djsmiley2k

i bult my own router :P

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k I'm debating doing that

or pfsense

djsmiley2k

15:09

pfsense is real easy

Bob

@allquicatic meh

"PC-like performance" !!no

and the wifi radio is a minipcie card

those aren't great for infrastructure

allquicatic

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Bob

last I checked, you run into range and performance issues

allquicatic

that's my entire networking infrastructure

Bob

also makes me wonder if traffic is switched on the cpu

allquicatic

15:11

the surface has the dimensions of a credit card

Bob

cause that would also suck (power)

qasdfdsaq

I love bag shopping

Journeyman Geek

@Bob meh, I'd like to seperate my core router and my APs anyway

qasdfdsaq

@djsmiley2k pfsense is a horrific pain in the arse!

Bob

@JourneymanGeek all the more reason to set one up properly, not use this hack -_-

qasdfdsaq

15:12

When I moved house last I went back to an embedded OpenWrt router because it was too much effort to boot the pfsense laptop back up and update it

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I'm debating building my own router tho

;p

qasdfdsaq

@Bob they are literally the same hardware you get in a dedicated consumer router or AP

@Bob actually a pci(e) card wireless AP in an x86 PC is the only way I could max out 802.11n back in 2011, as all the actual "router" routers didn't have enough CPU power

(Not to mention actual routers used to have mini-pci(e) cards in them till they started soldering the same hardware onto the main board to save money. It was a modders paradise back then.

That said I'm very keen on this new Linksys WRT3200 which not only claims open source firmware "support" but actually can run DD-WRT and OpenWrt out of the box

Journeyman Geek

heh, the hardware I was looking at was an (obsolete) x86/atom board with mini PCIe (and optional wifi) + 4 intel gigabit ethernet ports

Bob

@qasdfdsaq hm. I'm probably behind the times :P

djsmiley2k

@qasdfdsaq k

Bob

15:17

last I checked most of those cards absolutely sucked in infrastructure mode

qasdfdsaq

(previously they'd released "open source friendly/ready" routers but neglected to provide GPL drivers so it was basically useless)

Bob

but that would've been maybe 2008

djsmiley2k

try chosing the hardware and doing QoS in linux

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hostapd kinda works ok when I messed with it

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Well OpenWrt (and most Linux systems) use a soft-MAC these days.

Aka hostapd.

Bob

15:18

urk

qasdfdsaq

Hardware wise it was literally the same chips and architecture and radios used in a standalone router/AL

Hardware wise it was literally the same chips and architecture and radios used in a standalone router/Ap

djsmiley2k

also bridging wired and wireless on hostapd D:

qasdfdsaq

Binary drivers (prior to 2011-ish) were pretty shit and limited that's true

Mac80211 overhauled all that and built a completely new software defined MAC and driver standard that was universal and vendor-agnostic

@djsmiley2k one of the biggest reasons I use OpenWrt actually is exactly that

Any time I need a bridge, repeater, relay, or whatever it's a simple software reconfiguration (scriptable even)

djsmiley2k

k, i got it working \o/

i now finally got the serial adaptors to refix up the router too

qasdfdsaq

And any router that runs OpenWrt basically supports the same functions, so things like WDS and 802.11s can be made to work across vendors

Bob

15:20

I need to update/fix my networking equipment but I also don't have the time to ~~break~~ fix it :P

qasdfdsaq

@Bob isn't your networking equipment just a badly situated house and a mobile wireless hotshot?

user1337

Is it appropriate to ask questions here rather than posting? I have a small one about a lil thing called Rufus.

Or two small questions, actually.

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek tbh that's probably still miles faster than the 300-800Mhz MIPS chips used in pre-AC routers.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq no, I have a proper(-ish) wired & wireless network

but the wired connection is via ADSL2+ so I got an LTE modem for higher speeds when I need them... especially for uploads

qasdfdsaq

@djsmiley2k yeah that was kinda useful... To the extent I specifically looked for a motherboard with a serial port when I last last upgraded

Though with D-Link routers you practically never need it as it's basically unbrickable

djsmiley2k

15:23

i managed to loose my usb - serial adaptor that I originally used to make my router some how

qasdfdsaq

Most TP-Link ones are hard to brick too though recovery is harder its still possible without serial unless you're super unlucky

Bob

@qasdfdsaq don't the mobo ports use RS232 at something like +/-12V?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob I have no idea, this was like 10 years ago, and I failed anyway

Bob

and most routers need something like +/-5V or +/-3.3V TTL?

qasdfdsaq

In the end I got/needed a USB TTL adapter

Bob

15:24

^ yea that :P

qasdfdsaq

I was a noob back then

Bob

it's in the pile of "stuff I vaguely remember from researching for ddwrt"

I'm still using that dd-wrt install, actually. One of the things I needed to upgrade.

qasdfdsaq

Dd-wrt is the devils work

Bob

Scared to touch it though.

qasdfdsaq

(aka signs NDA agreements with vendors to provide proprietary non-open-source binary firmwares)

Also the shell and package manager sucked out of the box

But mainly because it was the work of the devil

DD-WRT is the router firmware equivalent of Oracle to OpenSolaris

Bob

15:31

ow. my leg is killing me.

2

qasdfdsaq

My loneliness is killing me

And I...

... I must confess, I still believe...

Bob

that sounds like a reference

googles

... oh no you didn't

qasdfdsaq

@Bob :-D

evil grin

djsmiley2k

is thaT BRITNEY?

allquicatic

*sigh*

someone I know had a roomful of college roommates take a "vote" to decide what to do to build an awesome home infrastructure in a rack in their basement; they spent $1100 USD; and got a $400 Core 2 era Quad Xeon server with 128GB DDR2 and a few eSATA enclosures with 8 x WD Velociraptor 160GB and 2 x 2 TB desktop drives.

They want to use it for "file storage" and "VM storage". They keep saying VM storage as if they just want to store the disk image on the server, but when they talk about it, they want the VMs to execute on these CPUs, too. These CPUs that lack EPT.

These CPUs that, when you combine all 24 CPU cores -- 6 per CPU -- is only about 15-20% faster in total Passmark score than an i7-6700K. And the single thread perf, memory bandwidth, bus speed, etc. is all horrifically worse.

It still uses FSB for crying out loud.

djsmiley2k

15:40

sounds about right

qasdfdsaq

@allquicatic did they specifically vote on the hardware? Or just pick from a list of systems?

Also we need fools like that to flog ancient worthless kit to, who else would buy it?

Bob

Velociraptor? 160 GB? What year is it?!

qasdfdsaq

@Bob the year of the core 2 quad era xeon

Bob

...point

:P

qasdfdsaq

I have throwaway SSDs larger than that

Journeyman Geek

15:42

0_0

Hennes

Heh, I still have core2quads. Three of them

All 1U poweredges who do not have to calculate

If I could upgrade them less power used would be considered over more speed (though I probably get both without trying)

qasdfdsaq

@Hennes oldest working machine I have is a core 2 duo laptop circa 2007, but the only reason that's still working is cause it's not been used in five years

Second oldest is a first gen core i5 which also hasn't been used for four years

Hennes

My laptop is from Feb 2009. (Core2duo).
But I only use it a few hours per week and them mostly for SSH and light surfing.
It is plenty fast for that.

qasdfdsaq

Oldest thing I actually still use is my current 2nd gen core i5 laptop, which I've been desperately trying to find a replacement for for years

djsmiley2k

15:58

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2
Dual Core Processor 4600+

Hennes

I would not mind a cheap replacement. Put with at least two drive bays (this one has two), Matt 1920x1200 or better screen and express card or thunderbolt3.
As it is my little Dell is well equipped (eSATA, DP (in 2009!), firewire, PCMCIA or PCcard (not sure which), express card, card reader, fingerptint reader, dockingstattion connector (to which I have two docks), ...

Argh. Day 3 in a row where some G-d damn dog keeps barking for hours at an end.

Burgi

16:30

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World Standards Day is not standardised...

qasdfdsaq

@djsmiley2k heh I had a Athlon 64 x2 3200+ EE and a 6000+

Actually come to think of it, I still have that system in storage somewhere, so that's be my actual oldest hardware.

djsmiley2k

@qasdfdsaq had? thats my home server box atm

@Burgi typical america

qasdfdsaq

@Burgi united states don't follow world standards

djsmiley2k

not made here culture

qasdfdsaq

@djsmiley2k I must have sold the 3200+ at some point because I have a board with a 6000+ in it and a box for a 6000+

I used it as my ZFS server until a couple years ago when I replaced it with a purpose built machine

Burgi

16:41

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Q: Increase the Hunger Threshold

Is there an in game way to increase the threshold at which your crew will eat your supplies? The default appears to be 50%, the ideal for me would be around 70%. The latest update appears to have increased the rate at which the crew consume the resources, although that could be my imagination...

steam sunless-sea

djsmiley2k

id like to up the ram in mine but its maxed at 4Gb iirc :;.

qasdfdsaq

16:54

I thought mine had 8, but it might have been 4

No I think it was 8, 4x2GB DDR2 chips

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