Root Access

NULL

00:01

Hey im back, yeah so I to program to get things to work in the real physical world; instead of like microsoft world which is more computer/software related if you know what i mean

How do you like my gravatar :D ?

@BenN I restarted and am trying to install the thing but its been hanging here for a while

says server execution failed

Ben N

00:28

Hmm, that's interesting

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

uhm no microsoft windows is the real world to me

NULL

@CausingUnd Yeah sometimes you have to do what you dont want to :)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

what does it take to make a robot arm move, just an electrical current through a motor for x amountof seconds or until two conductors touch that work in a transistor cutting the elctrical current?

is that programming to you

NULL

Thats more like electrical engineering...

Electrical theory

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

arduino?

NULL

00:33

yup

raspberry pi too

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Know anything about handshake cracking?

Ben N

Is ZoneAlarm partially installed? Removing it then trying again might help

Unfortunately I have never run into these circumstances, so I can't offer firsthand experience :/

NULL

Yeah thanks for the help @BenN I ran the ZoneAlarm uninstaller before I tried and restarted so I dont think it is: here is the error log for visual:

Ben N

Some people say adding NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE to the Administrators group helps, but that's a pretty bad idea from a security standpoint

NULL

its all good except:

[06F4:04B4][2016-10-02T20:34:43]e000: Error 0x8024001e: Failed to execute MSU package.
[0F6C:0118][2016-10-02T20:34:43]e000: Error 0x8024001e: Failed to configure per-machine MSU package.
[0F6C:0118][2016-10-02T20:34:43]i319: Applied execute package: Windows81_x64, result: 0x8024001e, restart: None
[0F6C:0118][2016-10-02T20:34:43]e000: Error 0x8024001e: Failed to execute MSU package.

yeah I agree

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

tcp handshake? haha

Ben N

00:43

There are cleanup tools for ZA but I can't vouch for their effectiveness or legitimacy

NULL

yea thats the problem

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere WPA handshake lol

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

so the installer is failing? whats happening?

ooo WPA

NULL

the installer fails at

Microsoft Visual C++

Hey! I tried it again and now i get to 46% instead of 28 and its on microsoft visual x64 :D

Aibobot

@BenN If it isn't from the maker, I typically wouldn't trust it. If it is, I'd question the competance of someone who messes up his uninstaller

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

hey do you know process monitor?

NULL

00:51

yeah

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yeah

NULL

you mean task manaager?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I'd love to know how to crack a WPA handshake

NULL

or airmon-ng like monitor mode?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

no I mean Mark russinovich and the other guy

NULL

00:52

oh

Yeah I can tell you

So the easiest way i find is with aircrack-ng tools

You have to have a linux CD

Aibobot

@NULL process monitor and such is the 'better' semi unofficial alternative to it

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

do you know how to crack a wireless oh lets not

I have a linux usb

but it's ubuntu flavoured

NULL

cool that will work

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

and I need to purchase a wireless card. any suggestions?

NULL

what you need to do is install aircrack-ng...it comes with airmon-ng etc

the best one is probably

Aibobot

00:54

(sysinternals was unofficial, them MS bought em)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

BECAUSE MS SUCKS THAT WHY THAT WHY

Aibobot

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere for a laptop or desktop?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

SO BADLY THAT SOME DUDE MADE BETTER TASK MANAGERS THAN THEIR PROGRAMMERS

yes thats right

Aibobot

Stop yelling please.

Ben N

Procmon serves a very different purpose than Task Manager

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

00:55

sorry I dont take orders at this version

procexp

Aibobot

also, mark russanovich was a bit of a windows internal guru

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

for a rig desktop

Aibobot

ahh. Most of them suck.

;p

Get a laptop one and a pci-e adaptor

NULL

alpha awus036h they say thats a good one...I use a Panda PAU03 because I need a small nano adapter...you need to find one that supports injection, and monitor mode

Aibobot

tbh, I have those generic nanodongles as a spare. Eyeing a AC varient

NULL

00:56

So basically the idea is that whenever a user wants to access his wifi he has to authenticate to the Router via what is called a 4-way handshake... our goal is to intercept that

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

but that costs 1.5 grand aibobot

yeah

NULL

Now normally we would have to wait for a client to connect, but because of the tool called aireplay-ng we can send de-auth packets to clients already connected

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

but shouldnt I get an ab/b/g/n adapter or card? seems yours only does n and the other does g/n ?

make the clients reconnect? lmao

but

NULL

Yes...

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

isnt their session encrypted and wouldnt a disconnect request be encrypted too....

NULL

00:59

for modes supported it depends on the networks you working on

Ben N

IIRC there's no authentication on deauth packets

NULL

no there isnt...

right

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

you can black out TCP in your area if you MITM all the connections in range and randomly send TCP RST packets huh? :P

NULL

haha never tried that

Really I am not an expert I have just got intrested in it and have been learning:)

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

be like a secret agent, yo am blacking out the internet at this coffee shop ... NOW.

need a netbookfor that stuff

so what happens when the network is open or everyone knows the passphrase

you can literally eavesdrop on everyones' connections right

NULL

01:02

For Open Wifi Networks people have this thing called Evil twins...tricks user to connect to your "Starbucks Wifi" and you can see there https request

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

NULL

rights its ssl and https but there are ways to unencrypt

Ben N

You have to have seen the initial auth (hence sending deauth), but yes, with that and the passphrase you can decrypt traffic

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

cooooooooool Bella is n tv

honestly I've been a serious guy all my life

NULL

@BenN Oh yes forgot to mention

My problem is I have this handshake sitting around and I cant crack it:(

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

01:04

if I can save someones life using this it would make me a happy man

NULL

using what?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh nothing..

NULL

I mean how do you save someones life with evil twin :D

oh

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

well

what about kids being harassed by a stalker or those stories where people are suicidal

you know what I mean? people dont find out til it's too late

NULL

yeah

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

01:05

if I'd happen to bump into that it'd be great if I could help

NULL

Of course yeah!

Although I like fooling around I do value privacy though:) Like I dont believe in NSA snooping around everywher

but lets not open up that can of worms:)

So I stuck my handshake in this site that is a proffesional password recovery site...five days later it said password not found :O

Dictionary passwords like password35 or 1234567890 are easier to crack than random passwords that are like 15 chars

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

so this is hard to crack? s(#hjdWAO(#IEMN#WrmzW(&5

the first day I used my wireless hotspot I used 500MB except I wasnt the one who used it. my password was like 15 characters or something. changed it to 64 after that

That Brazilian Guy

wheeeeeeee I'm ~~drunk~~ lightheaded

NULL

lol

That Brazilian Guy

Jan 23 '14 at 0:49, by That Brazilian Guy

No I am slightly drunk

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

01:15

@ThatBrazilianGuy I feel that every s i n g l e day

NULL

64 dude that would take the NSA till hell freezes over to crack

That Brazilian Guy

Jan 23 '14 at 0:42, by That Brazilian Guy

I have a slighr suspicion iight be drunk

Nov 4 '13 at 14:31, by That Help Vampire Guy

At least you guys aren't in an almost-drunk state of dizzyness like me.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

LMAO you serious? thats been my wifi password for years now because one day when I was yougner Id always check my connected devices and it showed some wierd connection that wasn't from a computer so I was like shit... I turned on mac filtering, 64 character passphrase, ip binding...

That Brazilian Guy

I sat down and tried to write "root access" and somehow I visited my workplace's website

I think I might be staying here with you guy a little bit too much

NULL

mac filtering is useless:) but yeah

That Brazilian Guy

01:17

I think I'll start asking SE for a salary :P

NULL

if your device mac is xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx i just do macchanger -m that mac and im no :)

assuming i go your pass of course

got*

I calculated it once, it would take the worlds fastest computer like 7 million years to go through all the combos for 63 chars

@ThatBrazilianGuy Whats the weather like in BA?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

ik lmao

but are you going to try 1000 IPs to select the right one for my mac or does that info also get passed over the air un-encrypted

NULL

yeah idk about that...actually to be honest ive never heard of ip binding

That Brazilian Guy

01:38

@NULL What's a B.A.?

Bob

01:49

@ThatBrazilianGuy Bachelor of Arts

That Brazilian Guy

02:54

2 hours ago, by NULL

@ThatBrazilianGuy Whats the weather like in BA?

@Bob They have a weather of their own?!

Natecat

04:12

Hey guys I have a problem

I get this error over and over again when I try to play a m3u file in vlc

[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0x7ffb8802d320] moov atom not found
[00007ffb88c02958] avformat demux error: Could not open myvps/ampache/play/…: Unknown error 1094995529
[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0x7ffb88036360] moov atom not found

nvm I fixed it by disabling transcoding on my streaming server

Something must've been going wrong during that

Journeyman Geek

Quack.

Natecat

That could mean a lot of things

Journeyman Geek

In this case though.

Its rubber duck debugging.

Natecat

Well actually I just noticed that it was stored on the server as a different format than in the url

but yeah I would've found it with rubber duck debugging too

Psycogeek

04:38

i got down to the B&M tech store, biggest tech store in america, and seated at the side ( a bit) of silicon valley, like 20 miles from google kind.

They had NO modern video cards 1070s no 1080s no 480s , although they did have a few before. the video shelfs looked more like a picked over garage sale.

they only had one type of 8t Drive, the WD cloud in a box, and the WD my disk , not sure if there would be a helium drive in those?

they had no reds, no red pros, no purples, in these high sizes.

I Talked to 2 of the employees about this, as it had been another month or 2 again that i had asked before. Then i said "is the store closing or something" Lol the dude started looking around as if he was about to lose his PayCheck :-)

this is the same store that could sell 2 full pallets of 2, 3, and 4T drives when they would make the scene. I cant really figure it out, while many people shop online for stuff nowdays, the parking lot at that place is never 1/2 empty. they always have people Lined up to pay and get out of there.

bwDraco

05:02

Are you talking about the flagship Fry's Electronics in Sunnyvale?

bwDraco

05:14

nn

Psycogeek

@bwDraco this is the one in fremont. but i can access the sunnyvale or san jose ones too, if i thought it would do any good.

Psycogeek

05:43

According to numerous reports on the web, the new WD mybook uses AES hardware encryption. while that might be good for some, the added "effort" and extra hardware , and any possible slowdowns or extra power required to do the encryption dont fit in well with my scenario.

because sometimes these tiny chip controller stuff, in the poorly cooled box, can fail. and this method of encryption is then dependant on the box. so when people pull out the drive, not only are they unable to read the data (of course) , but many people claim they cant even format it and use it without the box or encryption.

the 16T duo , could be different, in such that the 2 drive pop out, and the advertisments themselves indicate that there are real Red (5400) drives in them. Plus that box has a tiny fan (i HATE tiny fans because they never seem to last time).

Bob

2

Psycogeek

But there seems to be way to many reports, that the crappy raid controller and whatever drives they are tossing in, are failing at a rate that is unlike Western Digital itself.

Psycogeek

06:28

the 2 mid tower computer cases that met my specs for size (full size board, and tower heat sink) was :
corsair It Core x9, but i could find no possible way to put in and access an optical drive in it. I am not really stuck on opticals, but if someone wanted one made (again).
and the ANtec p-100 which looks like it would claim to be a "quiet" type of case, designed well enough, but 3/16ths of an inch of lightweight open cell foam, was only going to make it "quiet" when sold on the web, it had no capability to slow or stop sound, or reduce rattling and fan noise.

both cases were a full 3 inches (oooh wow) shorter than the one I am now using, and the antec had some ok dust filtering capability. and the antec was also 1/2 the price of the corsair.

soo many of the cases there, looked like they are trying to be high tech , by having plastic design garbage to look like a Transformers robot :-) which might be cool if any single one had done any of it well.

a majority of the cases that would be deemed "smaller" were certannly too thin in width to handle full tower heat sinks.

Boris_yo

07:04

Wondering how they offer free UK number forwarding and support. Any chance they eavesdrop if I call online store and tell them credit card number?

They also offer Fax2Mail and Mail2Fax, plus they don't share private information. Yet they don't charge for service. Does not happen.

djsmiley2k

@Boris_yo oh it does

infact that company maybe a subsiduary of the company I used to work for

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k You worked in VOIP phone numbers company?

djsmiley2k

They'll sell your number or something simular even if they say they don't

yup

well, they handled both voip and pots

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k From profit perspective, do they operate on think profits and is competition tough?

djsmiley2k

competition was deadly

profits from a service like that are incredibly thin

but they'd run thousands of services.

(the company I worked for didn't run these services btw, just the infrastructure for clients)

Boris_yo

07:18

@djsmiley2k Was it B2B or B2C?

Sounds like latter.

djsmiley2k

Mostly B2B

Boris_yo

Judging by very low pricing I see from many services, it looks like they employ few reps and expect them to bust their but off to handle inquiries from demanding customers.

I mean free market has it's disadvantage in shrinking profits. Then companies have to outsource if not export labor abroad. In the end customers complain about poor support. This economy model will drive everyone to the bottom and eventually destroy humanity.

I never seen so much selling like it is today. Everyone sells something, even small man does. But if there is so much supply, how can there be demand with disposable income to afford all this?

The equilibrium is tipped...

Holding attention and money is the challenge of 21st century.

Burgi

morning

djsmiley2k

07:34

@Boris_yo nope

they pay for support from my ex-employer basically

There was 3 staff, who did the 'customer service' for about 150 companies

I could never put up with the crap they had to

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k 3 people supporting 150 companies?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo As long as women exist, there will be someone around to dispose of your income :-) no fear of that going away.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek I meant the opposite. There is no disposable income.

No in this economy where companies compete to exist on thin margins and pay scraps to their employees.

djsmiley2k

09:08

@Boris_yo most companies had no support required

s/companies/services

lots of things lik that website, where you'd very rarely get a call from a 'customer'

DavidPostill

Any mods in the room? User superuser.com/users/644407/helpmewithlinux is rolling back profanities into his question superuser.com/questions/1128704/angularjs-javascript-problems.

Rahul2001

09:30

@DavidPostill Ugh

@DavidPostill is it possible to run set "prompt= Adavana$G$S" in a batch file and then let it function like a normal CMD?

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Yeah. Rollback war. Seems to have stopped for the moment.

@Rahul2001 What are you trying to do?

Rahul2001

I've been working on this collection of utilities for command prompt, which are basically run from a batch file

Right now I just set the path and run cmd, but I was wondering if it is possible to change the path too

@DavidPostill Ah, okay, got it to work, never mind

DavidPostill

@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
prompt= Adavana$G$S
cmd
pause
endlocal

Rahul2001

yep

DavidPostill

Seems to work. Was that what you meant?

Rahul2001

09:36

Yeah, thanks

I'm super angry at my school today.

They didn't badge me as a member of the computer club

Because the computer teacher holds a grudge of some sort against me

djsmiley2k

o_O

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Can you appeal to someone with a brain?

@Rahul2001 It's probably because you are smarter than he is ...

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill My headmistress said that my computer teacher told her that my efforts never amount to anything significant.

Which is utter rubbish

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Can you prove otherwise?

Rahul2001

The only times the school has won tech award in the past year and a half since I joined, I had a major part to play.

@DavidPostill I pointed this out, and then she made another excuse

DavidPostill

09:44

Then I think you have to let it go :/

Rahul2001

She said I do not know how to balance out academics with co-curricular activities

Burgi

she might be right

Rahul2001

I pointed out that I always get good grades, and then she said I don't have leadership qualities

Even the president of the tech club fought for me

Burgi

dude, let it go

Rahul2001

The headmistress is adamant

DavidPostill

09:45

@Rahul2001 Most geeks don't. It's not in their nature and they have to work very hard at it ...

Burgi

i hate having a minion

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill I've always managed to get an A or B, but I really need to work very hard

Burgi

all the management responsibility sucks

DavidPostill

@Burgi Exactly. I hated people management. I don't mind technical management.

Unfortunately even though I hated it I was good at it ...

Rahul2001

Maths and physics come naturally to me, but not political science, eco, geo and the rest, which are mostly mugging up

DavidPostill

09:47

At least my team and my line manager said so ...

Rahul2001

I suck at mugging things I don't understand up

In fact, last year I got grade upgrades in two subjects just because of all the awards I'd won in tech

Uh, suppose I just have to give up :(

Hennes

10:05

pull pin and lob at fire

Potato Cat

@Burgi No. I gave up.

Journeyman Geek

Oo

Potato Cat

@Bob Are you with OVH?

Bob

@PotatoCat yup

Potato Cat

@Bob Canadian DC or European?

Burgi

10:20

@PotatoCat gave up? where are you living then?

Potato Cat

@Burgi ~~Disease ridden cattle houses~~ youth hostels

Bob

@PotatoCat Canadian

BHS-3 IIRC

Potato Cat

Mkay, thanks

Bob

I think quix is on there too.

(well, it is closer to him)

for me, it's cause the AU <=> EU cable sucks so most of my traffic is routed via the US anyway

DavidPostill

@Bob Isn't that the long way around?

Bob

10:25

@DavidPostill Yes? :P

DavidPostill

Sounds like someone has screwed up routing tables ... or there is a currently active cable fault ...

Bob

@DavidPostill Nah, it's always been like this.

Much more capacity on the AU <=> US cables.

So AU <=> US <=> EU is more common than AU <=> Asia <=> EU

  5    17 ms    18 ms    14 ms  203.29.134-4.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.4]
  6   252 ms   199 ms   197 ms  10ge3-3.core1.lax2.he.net [74.82.9.153]
  7   202 ms   199 ms   199 ms  100ge2-2.core1.lax1.he.net [72.52.92.121]
  8   256 ms   263 ms   254 ms  100ge12-1.core1.ash1.he.net [184.105.80.201]
  9   343 ms   349 ms   348 ms  100ge12-1.core1.par2.he.net [184.105.213.174]
 10   356 ms   348 ms   348 ms  100ge5-2.core1.fra1.he.net [72.52.92.14]
 11   358 ms   358 ms   358 ms  decix-gw.hetzner.de [80.81.192.164]

@DavidPostill Oh, and SEA-ME-WE apparently does go down a lot.

Not to mention it's a horribly long route:

Potato Cat

Eww Hetzner

(I was actually thinking of switching to them)

Burgi

@PotatoCat trustedhousesitters.com/gb/?hj=1

Potato Cat

I'm paying silly buggers for an old piece of crap right now. Even my existing provider now offers a machine with twice the RAM, newer CPU, and more disk for 30% less than I'm paying

@Burgi Huh. Genius.

Bob

10:38

@PotatoCat @allquicatic was on Hetzner, then I was looking at dedis and came across OVH, then he switched to OVH, then I got an OVH box too :P

Potato Cat

@Bob Ah, if allquixotic was on them they can't have been terrible then :-P

Bob

Mostly cause Hetzner isn't really ideal for US/AU (latency)

Potato Cat

OVH has the lowest latency to the UK, but meh. Dunno how long I'll be here

Bob

ah

@PotatoCat I think quix also liked the IPv4 allocation from OVH more :P

no monthly fees and all

Potato Cat

Pretty much all UK routing is London-centric and OVH is London +3ms, Online is London +10ms, and Hetzner is about London +12ms IIRC

@Bob Yeah, that's one consideration, I'm paying about $12 a month for extra IPs on mine.

Hetzner IPs are about half what I'm paying, OVH, well they're free basically

Bob

10:43

@PotatoCat Eh, I've given up caring about 10ms outside of Australia

Even within the country, really

cause Sydney to Melbourne apparently adds some 20ms

Potato Cat

@Bob I'm primarily needing a remote virtual desktop, because my laptop stinks and keeps crashing (and doesn't have nearly enough RAM for all my tabs)

Bob

I really need faster-than-light communications. And higher-brandwidth cables. And less-crappy routers at the ISPs.

@PotatoCat ah. I've been using Azure for that

for two reasons: I get AUD70/month credit w/ VS subscription and other AU servers are crazy expensive, and it was an easy way to spin up Windows machines

Potato Cat

@Bob FTL would be nice, yes.

But even at the speed of light, Me <=> OVH latency would be only 4ms, not 24ms.

Bob

Hm. I suppose more ~~satellites~~ space mirrors would work.

Or digging/burning a hole through the planet.

Potato Cat

@Bob Project Loon mirrors!

Bob

10:51

@JourneymanGeek I just realised that with the DST change now I'm an extra hour after you :P

Potato Cat

Bob

@PotatoCat "Get away from my bag, human."

DavidPostill

@Bob Hmm. I didn't realise that SG doesn't have DST.

Bob

@DavidPostill Most tropical areas won't, afaik

Also, s/after/before/

s/before/ahead/

DavidPostill

@Bob lol

Singapore: Observed DST in 1933-1935 by adding 20 minutes to standard time.

Bob

10:57

o.O

20 minutes shift sounds painful.

jokerdino

Probably for British convenience.

Journeyman Geek

There's no logical reason for DST ~~ever~~ here

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Somebody obviously thought there was :)

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill darned british

The sun never set on the british empire cause clearly, along with malingering and lollygagging, they set themselves to a jolly good show of clock-fiddling.

Rahul2001

Bryan Adams!

Potato Cat

11:07

Grr if there's one thing I hate more than latency it's packet loss. And dogs.

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek afghanistan has a 45 minute timezone

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, we had to make sure the Gin and Tonics were served at exactly the right time :)

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek I think It's all that wibbly wobbly timey stuff they do

DavidPostill

@Burgi ?? Where do you get that from?

Burgi

my friend who was deployed there

DavidPostill

11:13

@Burgi ^^^

Burgi

it was 4 years ago, they may have changed it again

Rahul2001

> Eucla: UTC +8:45

> New Zealand, Chatham Islands: UTC +12:45 / +13:45

> Nepal: UTC +5:45

DavidPostill

@Burgi I can't be bothered looking in the

Tz database

The tz database, also called tzdata, the zoneinfo database or IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) time zone database, is a collaborative compilation of information about the world's time zones, primarily intended for use with computer programs and operating systems. It is sometimes called the Olson database, referring to the founding contributor, Arthur David Olson. Paul Eggert is currently its editor and maintainer. Its uniform naming convention for time zones, such as America/New_York and Europe/Paris, was designed by Paul Eggert. The database attempts to record historical time zones and...

And now @Bob's post seems amazingly appropriate ...

6 hours ago, by Bob

Historical date and time calculations are a nightmare ...

Burgi

11:31

tom scott did a timezone video

DavidPostill

@Burgi linky?

Burgi

The Problem with Time & Timezones - Computerphile

►

jrh

-1

Q: What can cause images to not show in HTML Help (chm files) if UAC is Enabled?

On a computer running Windows 7 Embedded Standard (SP1), 64 bit, I am not able to view images in any chm files unless UAC is turned completely off. All of the images are replaced with a small black and white box with an "X" in it. Things I've tried: If I transfer the chm files to a different ...

any ideas guys? I still think this has something to do with web permissions being applied to a help file on the local computer

I'm not a web developer and I tried all the usual stuff

Burgi

@jrh what path are the images in?

does that folder have the correct permissions ?

jrh

they are compiled into the chm file, let me check what directory they are in, in there

they are in the /img/ directory, and the /lib/ directory

Burgi

11:45

which browser are you using to open them? IE?

jrh

I tried the help file itself in many different directories, the user's desktop, the user's documents folder, etc

I'm using hh.exe

i.e., the built in chm help viewer, it's part of Windows

it internally uses IE 11

Burgi

do they work if you open the file directly in IE11?

jrh

yes

if I extract all the files out of the chm file and open the htm documents in IE11, it works, in the same directory

Burgi

can you open the chm directly in IE?

jrh

no, it just prompts me to download it

Burgi

11:50

is it on a network drive?

jrh

no

I've tried it on both the C: and the D:

both of those are partitions on a physical hard disk installed directly into the computer

also no browser will open chm files (Google Chrome, Firefox, and IE all prompt to download)

interesting idea though

do you think that the fact that the user's folder is on the D: could have anything to do with this?

though I have a computer with a very similar setup (user folder also on D:) that can open these same files in the same directory even if UAC is enabled

DavidPostill

@Burgi Nice :)

jrh

@Burgi I hate to ask for stuff like this but just a reminder, if you think my question shows research effort would you mind upvoting it? I think it got downvoted because I didn't have sufficient rep to post URLs and I ended up putting a bunch of plain text URLs. I think the question's a lot easier to read now, and I'd appreciate some feedback either way.

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