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bwDraco

23:01

...and this is how my lack of a sense of humor can be actively disruptive to chat. Sorry, folks.

Stepping out briefly...

Let's continue to discuss this in Ask a Super User Moderator.

SpartanDonut

23:19

Sorry for running off. Thought I had time to ask and was wrong xD

Ben N

No problem :)

SpartanDonut

@bwDraco when you say fully independent are you saying monitors, mouse, keyboard and everything or ?

As far as KVM - is there any rule of thumb with purchasing them? Some better than others? Any recommendations?

bwDraco

It's a matter of having enough space to accommodate multiple full sets of computer hardware.

You don't have to say if it's private, but can you give the dimensions of your working area?

Journeyman Geek

@SpartanDonut make sure its the right outputs. In my case I just have a monitor with a remote connected to my second system and the first system, and a seperate keyboard and mouse...

I think my last workplace was using ATENs

SpartanDonut

Was hunting down the photo I sent my boss

I don't have exact dimensions but I could measure if necessary

Journeyman Geek

23:26

lol

that's bigger than my worksplace

tho my monitors are larger

SpartanDonut

I'm not denying its big

It's integrating a second PC relatively hassle free while not degrading the work experience that I'm not sure how to handle

Journeyman Geek

what kinda work? Do you get to pick your systems? Do you need three monitors for work?

SpartanDonut

I wouldn't want less than two

But I work from home now and they are gung ho on getting me on company issued hardware

so I'm working with 3 currently

I'm a developer

I usually have email, a browser window or two, and my IDE, and any other supporting tools all up at any given moment

So the third monitor is usually just so I can keep an eye on incoming requests

which if I have to rely on watching my taskbar and listening for the ding thats ok

which is why I'd settle for 2 monitors

I have one monitor in the office and its just painful :(

As far as picking the system go

I do some traveling and they are looking to decomission the two PCs I have sitting in the office that I currently VPN / RDP into as needed

and since I travel to the office and clients sometimes I am probably looking at a laptop of sorts

Most likely, the laptop will mostly act as a thin client and I'll RDP to Azure and / or a work virtual environment for serious tasks

thing is I don't want to just stare at a laptop monitor and I don't want to use the laptop keyboard and touchpad and I don't want to have to deal with a mess of wires between work and play. KVM seems like a reasonable solution which slipped my mind. Haven't thought of those since TechTV went off the air :D

Journeyman Geek

2 monitor KVM is less common tho

That Brazilian Headless Horse

bwDraco

23:39

Yeah, that's going to be tricky.

SpartanDonut

Oh well that's a bummer

Bob

@SpartanDonut Remote (RDP, VNC) into laptop from the desktop.

SpartanDonut

holy crap I feel dumb

Bob

Well, assuming it isn't too locked down to do that.

Journeyman Geek

lol

That Brazilian Headless Horse

23:41

@SpartanDonut What am I not getting?

SpartanDonut

You can multi monitor RDP these days right? I tend to not bother due to my slow interwebs but if the PC is on the same network...

@ThatBrazilianHeadlessHorse that was in regards to Bob's suggestion

Bob

@SpartanDonut IIRC you need Enterprise on the host (on Win7)

Not sure what the requirements for Win10 are

SpartanDonut

Well lemme pull up the RDP options and see here

I am pretty sure I have 10 Pro

Bob

@SpartanDonut I think the reqs were for the host.

SpartanDonut

Oh hmm

Bob

23:42

So you can do it from Win7 Pro client to Win7 Ent host, but not the other way around.

Looks like Win10 Pro can host too.

SpartanDonut

Sweet

I think we use enterprise but its possible we've gone down to pro since my last rig was put together. We don't use home for sure (or so I hope) so if pro can host we're golden.

Bob

Actually, I'll test... one min.

SpartanDonut

Ah k

Bob

...10 mins. Azure is damn slow at spinning up VMs.

SpartanDonut

For sure

With my plan being thin client laptop and the rules against personal hardware I wonder if they have exceptions to the rules for Azure VMs or if they are actually against the rules too

SECURITY GUYS /tableflip

I wish they would let me continue to RDP to my office PC over vpn but whatever :)

Bob

23:48

dammit, out of teabags

SpartanDonut

From a security perspective... are there great dangers of using RDP that we should think this idea would get shot down by the security team?

RDP from personal PC to work laptop on the same network

Ben N

I would think that you would be fine as long as the VPN was configured well

Bob

@SpartanDonut Hmmmmmmmmm. Potentially, yes.

Ben N

Arguably, though, malware on the remoting-in machine could burst in and do bad things

Bob

If nothing else, they'll likely refuse as a matter of policy.

SpartanDonut

23:52

I feel like by this logic I need to get a dedicated internet line, modem, and router for this laptop xD

Bob

Apart from that... RDP is basically full control. So it's perfectly possible that malware can use it to spread.

Don't know if there are any known cases of it happening, but it's possible.

Ben N

It probably wouldn't be super difficult to construct a program that hijacks an RDP session (or just the credentials) and infects the remote computer

Bob

doh.

I just realised my Azure Win10 instance is Enterprise.

So I just confirmed that Win7 Pro to Win10 Ent works.

SpartanDonut

I wonder if I have enterprise through MSDN and could just reimage it...

Bob

let's see...

I have a local VM, let's see what edition that is :D

SpartanDonut

23:55

(That's probably against the rules too)

Bob

I have the RAM to spare today.

SpartanDonut

Alternatively I could drive 70 miles to work every day

Easiest way to make the security team happy I think

I'll just have them issue me a company car

Bob

urk - what was my password o.O

Journeyman Geek

Oh shit. I'm going to be slightly late for work.

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