Root Access

allquicatic

00:08

@Mokubai Today's equivalent would be a Core i3-6100, 8 gigs of RAM, a 500 GB budget SSD, and a GTX 960. They should write their game to run on that.

Ben N

Would now be a bad time to mention that I've been fantasizing about starting to develop a game that would require hardware virtualization, several CPUs, and enough RAM for a few solid machines?

allquicatic

@BenN a game that requires virtualization? how does that work? O_o

Ben N

It would be a simulator of the job of an IT director, with real machines running in VMs that you need to manage

The game could manage all the resources with the Hyper-V APIs and connect the player to them with (undocumented but existent) RDP-like controls

It would also be the geekiest game ever

allquicatic

@BenN and... what? you'd simulate hardware errors, disgruntled employees, DDoS attacks...?

Journeyman Geek

@allquicatic meh. 4gb, spinning rust and a 660 ;)

Ben N

00:12

Yep, but the main interesting story would be a moral dilemma involving the NSA asking you to subtly hand over customer data

allquicatic

@BenN you mean an NSL compelling you to tell no one and give them all of your data NOW?

(and failure to cooperate is a federal felony)

Ben N

Hey, it doesn't have to be 100% realistic :p

Journeyman Geek

or they just seize your entire data centre for one drive on one server

bwDraco

@allquicatic Should I be paranoid?

allquicatic

@bwDraco you shouldn't be paranoid if you know you haven't done anything that could potentially be a crime, but if you know that the law would have grounds to tie you up for something you've done, maybe you should be very careful about where you leave evidence for it

Bob

00:23

@Rahul2001 perhaps later. is there a start date?

@allquicatic can't remember if you were busy this weekend?

allquicatic

if you just have "personal" information, and there's no evidence of a crime, you could give every bit of info you've ever produced over to the NSA and FBI and nothing would happen

@Bob nope :) I am going to be busy in the evenings this week (weeknights) but actually free this weekend at normal time

Bob

@allquicatic cool. I should be able to make it

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco In your case, no, you should not.

No one really needs to be. Prudence is good. Paranoia never is.

2

oops

I just accidentally everything.

Guitar Shoe Dave

00:48

vision problems tonight

not sure whats wrong but this BEER IS DAMN GOOD

bwDraco

I need your opinion here: On Unix-like systems, my main editor has long been Vim. While I don't know much of the more advanced features, I'm able to use it reasonably well for day-to-day editing.

Guitar Shoe Dave

sublime is my favorite for *nix

bwDraco

Would I benefit from learning Emacs? If so, how would I get started?

Guitar Shoe Dave

although vim is still superior if you're cli

unfortunately i wasnt much of an emacs fan.

bwDraco

I found Emacs to be really hard to navigate, but I'm really tempted to spend some time learning it.

Journeyman Geek

00:51

@bwDraco I think the question is really 'why?'

bwDraco

I can always SSH into one of my servers to get started...

Journeyman Geek

I learnt vi(m) cause my old workplace was using it.

Guitar Shoe Dave

Everythings pretty hard for me to navigate right now.. Had a long week at work closing bugs from my huge database upgrade last weekend.. and i am far from sober.

It went great

bwDraco

@GuitarShoeDave Are you drunk at work? 🙃

Guitar Shoe Dave

Nah, at home now. =)

But yes, at home.

bwDraco

00:53

jk

Guitar Shoe Dave

I honestly dont understand why i cant drink at wrok anyway, i'm more productive and relaxed.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob managed to steal the truck. And got it back in which no front wheels or hood. And might have gotten nudged into the chopshop by a friendly STAG Nforcer ;p

Autocomplete fail.

Guitar Shoe Dave

@BenN: That's too funny that image of you running powershell in bash.

Journeyman Geek

(I have no idea how I lost my front wheels)

Ben N

If you're good at one text editor, and it's very likely to be available everywhere you are, then I don't think there's a pressing need to learn another

Journeyman Geek

01:02

escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comics/…

@BenN precisely!

I got along with nano fine for ages

Ben N

Especially since you seem to be interested in learning a few other things, I wouldn't want you to waste your time learning Yet Another Extra Thing

I ♥ nano

Call me Windows-centric, but I just want something that works exactly like the default Windows Notepad

Journeyman Geek

lol

I consider 'edit' from dos the platonic ideal of a cli text editor

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_(text_editor) comes close but isn't universal

-1

Q: Adware download for Virtual Machines?

Is there anywhere that I can find adware? I'm trying to completely destroy a Virtual Machine. Is there a website or a mega archive full of them?

virtual-machine

0_0

allquicatic

01:37

what in the actual fuck is this?!

it's showing up in my framebuffer when I take a screenshot, so it's not at the display header; I restarted my browser and it's gone

(that's a screenshot from Chrome displaying a vBulletin forum)

Guitar Shoe Dave

01:51

bad fb driver

prolly

i know nvidia has been notorious for that if i recall lately.

maybe its amd totally forgot

bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=477328

reddit.com/r/technology/comments/40mom2/…

allquicatic

Rebooted and everything seems ok so far...

Guitar Shoe Dave

yeah its pretty retarded charliehorse55.wordpress.com/2016/01/09/…

anyhow, watchin some twitch, sorry to read about that. That would have scared the shit out of me

Rahul2001

@Bob it has already started... Feel free to join the team 'Ohm' if you get some free time... We could do with some help!

Guitar Shoe Dave

what game are you playing?

Rahul2001

02:08

@GuitarShoeDave hacking challenge

Guitar Shoe Dave

ah lmao

too drunk for that

Rahul2001

Http://hackcon.in

Damnit, autocorrect

If anyone is bored... Feel free to join the team 'Ohm'...

Guitar Shoe Dave

im on the team

too drunk

so

whats the irc port on irc.hackcon.in

its not 6667 deafult

micro buster

hey!!

Guitar Shoe Dave

02:28

and only port 80 and ssh is open

it runs on aws

probably ingres firewalled

and i dont have my aws instance anymore to check

allquicatic

02:42

omg, youtube craze about people putting on 100 shirts

hilarious and so simple it's stupid

Guiness World Record *T-shirt 155*

►

HackToHell

02:57

Has anyone tried out wayland ?

Rahul2001

@GuitarShoeDave you need to join ##hackcon on freenode

allquicatic

@HackToHell years ago, yeah

Guitar Shoe Dave

ah

Rahul2001

Not irc.hackcon.in

Guitar Shoe Dave

well im too drunk for this tonight

HackToHell

02:58

@allquicatic Does it play well with nvidia optimus

Rahul2001

Lol

HackToHell

Stupid X needs to be restarted to switch GPUs

Bumblee is dead :'(

PRIME sucks :/

works with nouveua but get crappy performance

allquicatic

03:14

@HackToHell Nothing on Linux really "plays well" with hybrid graphics.

There's no good solution.

HackToHell

:(

Sucks for laptop users

Journeyman Geek

Gaming

Rahul2001

3 bottles of blood were just taken from me... :/

Journeyman Geek

Gaming, laptop, Linux. Pick two? :P

HackToHell

Bottles ? :O

@JourneymanGeek :'(

Journeyman Geek

03:17

/me suspects vampires.

oldmud0

03:31

Tried to upgrade to Windows 10 twice, failed both times. My time with Windows 10 is now officially over.

Not going to try upgrading again.

So let's debian

Bob

whoops

electrician turned off power without telling us

*hugs UPS*

oldmud0

modem won't last long

Bob

@Rahul2001 if it's a one-day thing then I won't have time today... probably... :\

@oldmud0 it's already back up

modem isn't on UPS

oldmud0

oh...

Bob

it's in a different room

oldmud0

03:43

mine isn't on UPS either

but you know what is on UPS? the poweredge 2600 ultra-monstrosity

bwDraco

roar

oldmud0

monstrosity

bwDraco

@oldmud0 grrrrrrr...

Bob

cc @JourneymanGeek :P

oldmud0

do the plebeians think that linux == ubuntu??

bwDraco

03:46

Some thoughts about AMD's new Zen processors. From the engineering samples that have surfaced, it seems that they're hitting 2.8-3.2 GHz on eight cores at 95W and on four cores at 65W.

Bob

Ubuntu ⊂ Linux

bwDraco

Consider that Intel's HEDT processors, including the i7-6900K (3.2-3.7 GHz), are rated for 140W.

Journeyman Geek

Lol.

Bob

baaaack to brick washing

@JourneymanGeek gonna go buy a face mask soon-ish

bwDraco

Also, AMD's chips are SoCs (AM4 boards have no northbridge or southbridge), which puts them at a 5-10W power disadvantage compared to Intel, which does not use SoC designs for full-power desktop parts (there's a separate PCH).

oldmud0

03:48

See? Intel knows how to do things.

bwDraco

The tech demo shown yesterday had a 8C/16T Summit Ridge chip running at 3.0 GHz. Bear in mind that the 2.8-3.2 GHz clocks are for very early ES chips, which means that the 3.0 GHz number is probably still at 95W.

oldmud0

AMD engineers look like they're doing the "hip" thing and turning their processors into SoCs.

bwDraco

Consider that there's just a 30W difference between the 4C/8T and 8C/16T ES chips.

That means that the cores themselves are probably using about 60W on the 8C part.

oldmud0

I mean SoCs are nice for the cheap $200 laptops right?

I wonder if/when a manufacturer will ever try ARM...

bwDraco

This means that they have plenty of thermal headroom to raise clocks further. If anything, if AMD is targeting 140W for production chips, they can probably hit higher clocks then Intel.

Journeyman Geek

03:51

@bwDraco I'll believe it when I see it. I hope they pull it off tho.

bwDraco

That tech demo was probably cherry-picked a bit to favor the AMD part ever so slightly, so they probably have slightly lower IPC than Broadwell-E overall.

oldmud0

since when did higher clocks equate to better performance

Journeyman Geek

Would be nice to see a fire lit under intel in the desktop side of things

@oldmud0 until the late 90 :p

oldmud0

Whatever. There is consistent progression in CPU technology. Things just get better.

bwDraco

Given that the AMD part has the potential to hit higher clocks inside the same thermal envelope...

that difference in IPC is likely to be moot.

Journeyman Geek

03:53

I kinda miss old ars Technica now.

oldmud0

what, it got kicked in the ars one day?

Journeyman Geek

Went corporate and their main cpu architecture writer suddenly quit to study theology.

bwDraco

My point is that AMD seems to be getting some really insane power numbers despite being at a technical disadvantage (the integrated southbridge comes at a ~5W cost that Intel isn't paying). This points to some very, very impressive performance per watt.

oldmud0

Oh that's nice.

allquicatic

FOX n FORESTS (Prototype) - Feelin' Foxy

►

@Bob ^^

bwDraco

04:04

I'm not sure how much power the Intel part is pulling at the lower clocks used in the tech demo (full Turbo speed with all eight cores under load should be around 3.5 GHz at 140W), but 3.0 GHz at a 45W delta (effectively ~50W due to the SoC design) means that AMD can probably hit similar or slightly higher clocks within the same power limit.

@allquicatic Might be the first game I'm going to get early access for...

Given that the Wraith cooler is rated for 125W, AMD will probably hit 3.2+ GHz base clocks at this slightly lower TDP.

Another data point: AMD says that Zen has the same power consumption per clock as Excavator has, which is considerably lower than Steamroller-based Athlon desktop CPUs (case in point: Athlon X4 880, 2M/4T @ 4.0-4.2 GHz in 28nm, has 95W TDP).

The 4C/8T Zen engineering sample runs at 2.8-3.2 GHz with a TDP of 65W. This suggests (but does not guarantee) that final Zen quad-core chips will be able to run well in excess of 4 GHz inside of 95W, delivering performance comparable to Skylake inside a nearly identical power envelope.

Price will be a huge factor here; even if AMD falls slightly short of Intel's best, AMD is likely to charge less than Intel for similar performance which means that "Chipzilla" will be getting some serious competition.

Bear in mind that I'm speculating here. We'll only know for sure when we see benchmark results from final, retail parts.

Good night, folks.

bwDraco

05:27

TITAN X Pascal Severe Thermal Throttling (Hybrid Results)

►

You've got to be kidding me.

$1200 graphics card has bad thermal throttling. Seriously, NVIDIA?

Psycogeek

this is pretty slick.

this dude tried to desguise himself to evade police.

bwDraco

gamersnexus.net/guides/…

> This project has yielded the most visible swings in clock performance that we've yet seen from a liquid cooling mod, and has revealed significant thermal throttling in the reference nVidia Titan XP design. What's more, this card will not feature the market saturation created by AIB partners with lower end cards, and so more advanced coolers do not seem to be available without going open loop or DIY.

Ouch.

Bob

@allquicatic o.O

Psycogeek

05:44

for all practical purposes which a video card is used for , not for benchmarks and the extreeme games which just need better optimisation, a card that is too fast for its cooling, or power, could still work fine in reality. Find the happy zone it works good at and stays reasonable in temperatures, then when that Hard to render moment comes up, it gets thhrough that at more than 15FPs and then you go on.

allquicatic

@bwDraco Disappointing, but is it really surprising? We're talking about the biggest and fastest single-GPU ever launched, to date. And one that was apparently somewhat rushed to launch. If they used a similar cooling design to the 1080, you can expect a much hungrier card to exceed the dissipation limits of the cooler.

oh well, at least there's an actual solution :)

most people who'd buy that card will want to spend the time and money to hook up a liquid cooler and solve the problem once and for all

Psycogeek

not everything is a benchmark, be it cpu or gpu, or a laptop that cant keep up with either of its coolings. having the speed during short needs, is still useful.

take some of the testing they do, now who needs 16X AA on a 4k screen? :-)

really once you get real pixels and real resolution, some of the cheap trix dont need to be turned on anymore for thier testing examples.

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek i wouldn't say no to turning everything up to 11 on a UHD screen if the price was right

and I'm pretty certain UHD will be the 'standard' with 1080p on the lower end within a few years

Psycogeek

06:08

assuming a game was at 4K resolutions , not just on a 4K monitor, do you see stairstepping of sharp edges still?

Journeyman Geek

usually no, assuming there's no tearing

Psycogeek

then asotropic filtering, was kinda like rendering something at 4X resolution then displaying it nicely interpolated back at the regular HD resolution. that might still be useful, but like AA wasnt it more designed for the problem of pixels is pixels, and there were not enough compared to a human eye

Psycogeek

06:29

on the trottling, if your already peaking out your video card capability be it rendering cooling or power, before you have completed the tutorials :-) then it is likely you didnt adjust the game settings for the game and video card right. when they turn on the heat, your going to get terrible frame rates.

pre-anticipating that things will always get worse , i always set my settings for the game and card, with much headroom. I hate low frame rates, like lower than 30. I dont even like much the 24FPS rates for movies.

Journeyman Geek

06:42

that sounds like super sampling.

Psycogeek

yea that.

assuming the whole game is being rendered at 4x :-) might just not need some of the features that combined costs a lot of power.

Journeyman Geek

07:10

Psycogeek

07:22

ugg my dogs breath has become so bad, I think his drool is flesh eating :-)

they want $175-$250 around here to do a teeth cleaning, which includes pulling the "bad" ones. I donno about that, because some of the ones they will pull have been "bad" for more than a year (7 in dog years:-) and if they were supposed to fall out they would have.

Journeyman Geek

do you bush his teeth?

Psycogeek

Nope never have brushed any dogs teeth, and not about to start. But i had (previously) made sure that the food they get and bones would keep them clean. that aint happening.

Journeyman Geek

oh, ours has rotten teeth and tooth problems, and the vet recommended it

Psycogeek

yea i know it is supposed to be done like from the start, where they would get used to it. but if it is so easy to do, why do they have to use GAS :-)

and i think much of the problem , does not exist the same in nature. this food. a good carcass is a lot of gnashing and gnawing and bones and all.

Journeyman Geek

its the difference between brushing your teeth and an annual descaling ;)

Psycogeek

07:33

One time my dog was trying to get at a prairie dog (ground squirrel) in a hole, and he was digging at the hole with both feet and biting the edges of the dirt to break the dirt away. It completely cleaned his teeth. But leash laws, rabbies, and nazi neighbors, that activity is far between and few.

Rahul2001

09:44

idiots

Journeyman Geek

surrounded by em, left right and center?

Rahul2001

Pretty much. yep.

Bob

10:23

@Rahul2001 you never did say when the challenge thingo ended :P

Rahul2001

@Bob Tonight...

Bob

ah

linky?

Rahul2001

hackcon.in

@Bob

Bob

> Unable to connect

fail

Rahul2001

@Bob works for me... try again?

Bob

10:33

eventually worked

eww ASLR

@Rahul2001 Hm. I wonder how involved it gets.

I've kinda forgotten most of REing :P

ooh that reminds me I need to renew my certs

Bob

10:50

znc@arke:~$ systemctl status znc
â znc.service - ZNC, an advanced IRC bouncer
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/znc.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2016-03-07 02:27:00 EST; 5 months 13 days ago
 Main PID: 404 (znc)
   CGroup: /system.slice/znc.service
           ââ404 /usr/local/bin/znc -f

that's a long uptime o.O

root@clio:/etc/gitlab/ssl# gitlab-ctl status
run: gitlab-workhorse: (pid 512) 14355238s; run: log: (pid 509) 14355238s
run: logrotate: (pid 6511) 1971s; run: log: (pid 505) 14355238s
run: nginx: (pid 507) 14355238s; run: log: (pid 497) 14355238s
run: postgresql: (pid 499) 14355238s; run: log: (pid 496) 14355238s
run: redis: (pid 506) 14355238s; run: log: (pid 498) 14355238s
run: sidekiq: (pid 508) 14355238s; run: log: (pid 504) 14355238s
run: unicorn: (pid 514) 14355238s; run: log: (pid 503) 14355238s

HackToHell

11:10

ooh gitlab

not using omnibus ?

Rahul2001

Hm... demos5.softaculous.com/Bolt/public

Doesn't seem too bad

WHAT THE HELL

Bob

@HackToHell I am :P

Rahul2001

THIS IS NOT GOOD NOTHING IS WORKING I DON'T LIKE IT

Bob

2016/08/20 07:03:32 [emerg] 8884#0: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file("/etc/gitlab/ssl/blah.key") failed (SSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch)

:(

Rahul2001

11:26

WHY YOU NO WORK????

HackToHell

@Bob Lemme pull up my config

I just did that with letsencrypt

Bob

@HackToHell it was actually working before

I just updated my cert and somehow broke it :P

HackToHell

o0

Looking at the error, key value mismath o0

Rahul2001

wail

Bob

oh

OH

fml

@HackToHell turns out that was an old error from half an hour ago, and I actuallygot it working shortly after, but gitlab-ctl somehow got disassociated with the real nginx pid so it was failing to start a new one but the old one was still running -_-

that explains why the website was still accessible... on the old cert

killall to the rescue!

HackToHell

11:46

yay !

Rahul2001

Someone tell me a good song for a lyric prank

Psst (If you don't know what that is)... youtube.com/channel/UCTG6K3xiREDaYQ5n3WWZH4A

djsmiley2k

12:00

ken leeeeeeeeeeeee ken leeeeeee with out you

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k linky?

djsmiley2k

Ken Lee or Without you by Mariah Carey (ENGLISH SUBTITLES)

►

Rahul2001

Any other recommendations?

Just saw that...

djsmiley2k

12:17

ive heard some good bonjovi ones but cant recall them

Nicolas Barbulesco

12:41

Hello

Can someone recommend - or make :-) - a Web page with a form that takes some time, please?

djsmiley2k

takes some time?

<input type="time"? lol

DavidPostill

@NicolasBarbulesco VTC as "unclear what you are asking" :)

Rahul2001

14:37

@DavidPostill He is asking for time. Duh. ;)

allquicatic

15:14

!! s/asot/anisot/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic then anisotropic filtering, was kinda like rendering something at 4X resolution then displaying it nicely interpolated back at the regular HD resolution. that might still be useful, but like AA wasnt it more designed for the problem of pixels is pixels, and there were not enough compared to a human eye (source)

Bob

<== confused

allquicatic

@Bob saw a typo in the scrollback and s'ed it to fix it

Bob

oh

John

Hi guys.

I have an issue with my computer:

Bob

15:21

...welcome to the club?

John

It has a delayed slow-down effect on Full-Screen programs.

What should I do?

djsmiley2k

don't full screen things?

John

I'm running Windows 7.

djsmiley2k

@John really can't figure it out from so little infomation, but at a huge guess I'd say the gfx is overheating and so starts clocking down

John

Yes, but Minimizing the program, and then re-expanding it restores performance.

Bob

15:25

"full screen programs" - there's a massive difference between games (demanding) l and just switching into full screen mode (can be not demanding)

Ah. That's where context helps :P

John

Trust me, my computer used to be Super.

djsmiley2k

Didn't they all.

John

Even a text scrolling down is laggy!

If in Full-Screen for 2-3 minutes

Bob

What's the program?

John

Most of them.

Most of my games.

djsmiley2k

15:27

gfx driver updatE

games heh

John

Yes, previously, Total War Rome 2, which is very demanding, worked well on Super High graphics.

Bob

Eh. Too tired for this :P

John

Now it's laggy even on Low graphics.

Bob

Good luck sorting it out. G'night

allquicatic

Apples and pits would make better capacitors than tantalum

►

@Bob "Core 2 Schmuo" ^^ lol

and goodnight

Core 2 Schmuo and Celery :D

John

15:29

It's 6:30 in my Timezone, but goodnight. 😉

PM

allquicatic

@John tried playing in a borderless window? tried monitoring your GPU temps and making sure it's not throttling? tried updating graphics drivers, BIOS/UEFI, motherboard drivers, running Disk Cleanup, checking to make sure you have enough free RAM, making sure you don't have any background processes eating a CPU core, ...? gotta try things, it could be anythin

hell, upgrading to Windows 10 might help; new version of WDDM and the upgrade or reinstall process will wipe out old drivers

John

Probably it's a virus, but I'll try to measure the temperature. @allquicatic

allquicatic

@John I see absolutely no reason to assume it's a "virus" without any evidence

John

Well, I scanned my computer and I found some threats, but probably because the Antivirus is outdated, it didn't find it. @allquicatic

I'll try to download Aida 64, to check any hardware-related issues.

Rahul2001

16:28

Frankly, I see no difference between thee and a summer's day. Only Ron Paul offers a TRUE alternative!

Is this down for anyone else? xkcd.com/1037

Ben N

Yep, it does seem broken

djsmiley2k

16:48

there be no image

Rahul2001

17:11

I updated the theme on rahul2001.com/weblog

Opinions?

DavidPostill

17:43

@Rahul2001 Nice and simple. But the blue line under the "Published..." is not long enough ... and the other pages have a different theme.

bwDraco

18:00

That xkcd comic isn't loading for me.

iKlsR

here you go @bwDraco

forums.xkcd.com/download/file.php?id=19928

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill bloody caching! :P

bwDraco

I see absolutely no request for the image itself in the Firefox dev tools.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Because it is not an image... It is an interactive comic...

bwDraco

...active mixed content not loading over HTTPS.

That's what's going on.

Rahul2001

18:05

@DavidPostill now? Or did you like the blue one better?

Ben N

I thought Umwelt was the one where it serves a different image based on your user agent

I liked the one you had before more

Rahul2001

oh...

Ben N

The blue line one?

Rahul2001

yeah...

@BenN Wait, I'm confused... You liked the blue line? or the white one?

Ben N

I liked the one with the blue line

Rahul2001

18:07

Ah, okay

I think I did too...

Reverted to Blue Line!

bwDraco

@BenN It's a responsive design. A different version of the comic is loaded on narrow screens.

!!/wiki Responsive web design

ChatBot John Cavil

Responsive web design

Responsive web design (RWD) is an approach to web design aimed at allowing desktop webpages to be viewed in response to the size of the device one is viewing with. A site designed with RWD adapts the layout to the viewing environment by using fluid, proportion-based grids, flexible images, and CSS3 media queries, an extension of the @media rule, in the following ways: The fluid grid concept calls for page element sizing to be in relative units like percentages, rather than absolute units like pixels or points. Flexible images are also sized in relative units, so as to prevent them from displaying...

Ben N

@bwDraco Ah, screen width as well. It depends on a few things: explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1037:_Umwelt

Rahul2001

> Thus, this April Fools comic changes based on the browser, location, or referrer.

bwDraco

Looks like it mainly uses the source IP.

Wondering if the source code is available...

On AT&T LTE:

Rahul2001

18:16

YEYEYESYAYAYAYAYA: duckduckgo.com/…

bwDraco

I'm going to mess around with it in the Microsoft Edge dev tools.

Rahul2001

> Microsoft Edge dev tools

Those are actually a thing?

bwDraco

Just hit F12.

Wow. xkcd has its own subdomain for the Umwelt webapp.

Rahul2001

Um... how do I force http over https?

Even Clippy cannot tell me this...

3

bwDraco

!!/learn rickroll dafk.net/what/rickroll.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

18:25

@bwDraco Command rickroll already exists

Rahul2001

!!rickroll

ChatBot John Cavil

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up

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Rahul2001

!!/learn roll <>http://dafk.net/what/rickroll.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@Rahul2001 Command roll learned

Rahul2001

!!roll

ChatBot John Cavil

18:27

djsmiley2k

!!s/roll/rollrick/

ChatBot John Cavil

@djsmiley2k That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

djsmiley2k

:/

Ben N

You might need a trailing /

ChatBot John Cavil

@djsmiley2k That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

@djsmiley2k !!rollrick (source)

djsmiley2k

18:29

doh

Rahul2001

~~|='-.\"/.-'=|~~

DavidPostill

18:57

@Rahul2001 I like this one.

Rahul2001

Ah, ok

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 But the blue line under the "Published..." is not long enough

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Yeah... I'm gonna have to edit the CSS

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 And your links on the right hand side move on hover. That makes me dizzy ...

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Oh, I should disable that?

djsmiley2k

19:02

moving on hover? ewwww

that's not userfriendly at all

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 It's not normal to have things move on hover - unless you want to deliberately have that effect ...

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill okay...

Man, CSS is confusing

iKlsR

Rahul2001

lol

!!rsleep

ChatBot John Cavil

Rahul2001

19:15

goodnight...

djsmiley2k

19:33

nn

Guitar Shoe Dave

20:09

@Rahul2001: nice one

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