Root Access

bwDraco

00:00

My experience writing papers does not agree with this. I guess I'll be eating my own words.

Journeyman Geek

> If you have a tool and arn't aware if what it can do, its dangerous. A jedi can do amazing things with a lightsaber. A roomful of chimps with lightsabers... would get messy.

@bwDraco in a sense, there's the mechanics. But after a point, there's a certain set of tacit skills that let you refine how and what you look for

and somethings that arn't quite properly mechanical.

Not to mention actually deciding what is relevant and what is not

bwDraco

Okay, this might be an indication I'm losing my mind again. I'll step out of this room for a bit. I said something I clearly knew was wrong.

Alright, I'm back.

Sorry for this, just standard precautions.

"Google-fu"

I had no reason to believe that research is a hard science.

bwDraco

Okay. Everyone talks about the Pistons. Is there some way I can get the rubber earplugs to attach firmly to the IEM?

...found this in the transcript, which I missed earlier:

Mar 17 at 2:44, by Journeyman Geek

and 275 dollars is out of what I'm typically willing to spend on a backpack

I actually paid US$330 for my current backpack.

Why?

Aug 19 '15 at 18:12, by DragonLord

Spending $60 for the third time on a High Sierra Freewheel was just getting annoying.

Aug 19 '15 at 18:12, by DragonLord

Most packs I've used are made to a price point. Osprey packs are not.

Michael Frank

00:17

@bwDraco I don't have Pistons, but I use the UE Comply Foam tips, and they fit on my IEMs great.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco my current backpack cost 30 quid or so

essentially military surplus

Michael Frank

!!s/quid/squid

Journeyman Geek

and the tips should just friction fit

ChatBot John Cavil

@MichaelFrank That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Michael Frank

:<

Someone do the thing...

bwDraco

00:18

@MichaelFrank You need a trailing slash to complete the regex.

Michael Frank

Ahh.

bwDraco

!! s/quid/squid/

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco !!s/squid/squid (source)

bwDraco

...too late.

!! s/30 quid/30 squid/

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco @bwDraco my current backpack cost 30 squid or so (source)

Journeyman Geek

00:20

and don't forget the wider context there

bwDraco

Hmm. So you were looking for a laptop case...

Journeyman Geek

I still don't own that razer backpack

I still want one ;p

@bwDraco naw, my idea laptop cases are sleeves

bwDraco

My camera bag ran me $215 and is still holding up well after several years of intensive usage.

For starters, it goes with me practically every day to campus.

Journeyman Geek

That's a specialised piece of kit you use often tho

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Reaallllly? :P

Journeyman Geek

00:29

@MichaelFrank yup

Michael Frank

@bwDraco I have one of these:

It's enough to hold my Camera plus a couple smaller lens. It's nice.

bwDraco

Hmm. My main field bag is a Think Tank Photo Urban Disguise 60 V2.0.

The larger wheeled pack is an Osprey Meridian 22.

I've spent big bucks on packs because I've grown tired of them failing on me.

Again:

Aug 19 '15 at 18:12, by DragonLord

Spending $60 for the third time on a High Sierra Freewheel was just getting annoying.

Psycogeek

00:50

$200 for a carry bag it better carry itself. One time I was dreaming up a way i could have a weather baloon filled with hydrogen, it would take some of the weight off my hiking backpack. And then to use it (instead of batteries) in a fuel cell to charge stuff. And to have the resulting exhaust H2O to drip back into my water bag , being weight reduction also.

Michael Frank

@Psycogeek Sounds like "The Luggage"

Psycogeek

could also provide shade in the dessert, the only place where hiking with a huge kite baloon would be practical. 4in1

Bob

...I think my current bag cost me $15 and it's still going strong after two years

Granted, original price was around $40-$50, I forget which

Journeyman Geek

01:11

;p

Guitar Shoe Dave

02:25

Evening

Journeyman Geek

02:45

moin

Bob

moinmoin?

Rahul Basu

hellooo....

@GuitarShoeDave what commands exactly did you type that day?

Bob

03:13

@RahulBasu Oh, we doing pentesting? :P

Psycogeek

03:29

where do you ask around here about candies ? snackexchange.com :-)

Bob

04:38

sufficient value within your own reportable experience -> Can you please translate this from MBA to English? — Shantnu Tiwari 18 hours ago

CMDEmu

what to do

to eat or not to eat

Journeyman Geek

07:35

Headphone hanger jerryrigged.

I happened to have an old clamp from some labware I had when I was home schooled, and added a padded bit with a chair sock and ~~socks~~ felt

Bob

o.O

@JourneymanGeek looks almost too professional :P

If you asked me to do one it'd probably be a hot-glued disposable chopstick contraption held to the desk by tape.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob a few older iterations .... were that

oh and the clip's from daiso. I was going to use that, but it wouldn't clamp to the front of my desk

Bob

07:50

Hm... looking at a better (bigger!) mouse for work.

Could get another G602... could get the more expensive MX Master

Journeyman Geek

I may get a razer mamba tournament at some point.

My brother has the old version, and seems nice

hm, wireless?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yea. Wired is fine too.

Mostly looking for something more ergonomic.

A full day of using this itty bitty Dell mouse isn't good for my wrist :(

Journeyman Geek

ahh

0_0

I was about to recommend my old mouse but apparently its not in their lineup any more

Bob

O.o

Journeyman Geek

support.logitech.com/en_ch/product/gaming-mouse-g300

I really like this one outside one or two minor personal gripes

(side buttons are useless,)

Bob

08:27

@JourneymanGeek ah...not really a fan of ambi mice

Journeyman Geek

ahh. I prefer em

Psycogeek

09:42

0

Q: Is it bluejacking attack or bluesnarfing attack?

If unknown device is trying to pair with my device through bluetooth, is it bluejacking attack or bluesnarfing attack?

wireless-networking

time to go wild bluetooth hunting

Often found within 30 feet of bluetooth beacons, trying to pair with them.

Michael Frank

Building the Steam Controller

►

Psycogeek

isnt it amasing how they can build a 120million doller plant, then put 14cent switches in things :-)

Bob

10:18

wow

WOW

Telstra.

what. the. fuck.

They somehow managed to merge my account with someone else.

So my (prepaid, data SIM) account has someone else's name attached to it.

And I can see his home broadband bundle.

And his phone number. And email address. And home address...

DavidPostill

@Bob Good luck sorting that mess out ;)

Bob

And he's been billed $30 to recharge my data SIM (a recharge I did not ask for or use)

DavidPostill

Serious data breach there

Bob

@DavidPostill Guy in the store was confused. Guy from support phone like was also confused.

@DavidPostill IKR?!

This is under my account (email login + password)...

I don't envy the Telstra support guy who has to call them to sort this out...

FFS, I'm pretty sure I can guess his wife's name based on the email address on the home broadband account :S

I wonder if he can see mine.

Nick

@Bob Those Psyducks are a real bother. I atleast hope the tangle you're in is atleast entertaining ;-)

DavidPostill

10:33

@Bob I hope the other customer didn't get your details! You could always call him and ask ;)

Bob

@DavidPostill I really have no clue.

@DavidPostill Heh, I was considering calling him or sending him an email :P

Nick

Hey guys, I'm in my college library. They're blocking mit219.tumblr.com because it's a blog and they blocks blogs. Um, any workaround?

Bob

Proxy, VPN, other tunnel...

Or contact your admins to get it whitelisted if it's a valid resource.

Nick

@Bob admins are pretty hard to contact. Though I am planning to submit a list of things that should be whitelisted at the end of my semester (yeah, that's the only time I can reach them)

Proxy, VPN, tunnel... idk, I can't install anything without admins.

Bob

Then use a phone w/ mobile internet.

Psycogeek

10:45

@Nick some of the blocks are dns domain based, so if you know of a number you could try that. english english google translation might work good for simple text reading. when all else fails supreeme court :-)

Bob

Can't exactly work magic here...

Psycogeek

oh that sux, google broke, er fixed it :-)

Nick

@Psycogeek Found the IP. Got a 404. 66.6.41.21

Psycogeek

ok, translate works if you pick a specific non english language

Michael Frank

Urk... Should've given this VM more RAM before installing Debian... It's been going an hour. :/

Psycogeek

11:00

@Nick yup doesnt work here either, tumblers using a method

Nick

@Psycogeek Ugh, my time here is up. Well, maybe I can get through next time. See you guys, later.

@Bob The only way ;)

Psycogeek

translate.google.com/… works just the problem with everytime the word gringo comes up it changes it to whitey :-)

Bob

@Nick If you really wanted to hit the IP you'd need to pass along the hostname too... which means either getting access to or setting up a different DNS resolver, editing the system hosts file, or installing a local proxy.

barlop

a friend is on win10.. I did ctrl-shift-escape to try to see the process name for edge but couldn't see it. I wanted to do taskkill /f /im blahblahedgeblahblah.exe but I could not see what exe edge used. What exe is it and why wasn't task manager showing that?

Michael Frank

@barlop MicrosoftEdge.exe & MicrosoftEdgeCP.exe

Bob

11:16

@MichaelFrank Child Process?

Michael Frank

@Bob Content Process

Bob

Ah.

Michael Frank

Bed time!

barlop

child process and content process sound like powershell things.. i'm talking cmd.

Psycogeek

there are 2 Qs about the edges exe superuser.com/questions/1012146/… Cant run the exe, ramhound says its not normal (great) & superuser.com/questions/1067412/… Cant set the edge.exe in a program. no answers. I am thinking Whats Up wit dat?

they probably programmed it in Ruby :-) beings they fired all the real programmers at MS :-)

@barlop i have no idea, but i do know taskkill will work by wildcard ' edge*.* and if they do the windowtitle right (not for remote) you might kill based on it.

ahh sombody doesnt know chat markup :-)

barlop

11:31

@MichaelFrank thanks.. and what would I click in task manager to show that?

it's not in front of me right now

Bob

> Failure configuring Windows updates

> Reverting changes

welp

Today is so not my day

barlop

how do you get task manager to show EXE files? e.g. here is a pic of task manager, no exe files shown i.imgur.com/VxKtlCX.png

that is a picture of win10 task manager and process tab chosen

Bob

@barlop you want the details tab

barlop

ah, thanks!

barlop

12:53

I don't think this was a bad question superuser.com/questions/1068115/…

it's a shame the guy deleted it

it's kind of interesting to see a cable one cannot identify

DavidPostill

13:13

@barlop " its used to update my devices firmware" - it might help if the OP told us "what the device was". He also say's it's broken. Presumably he can order a replacement cable from the device vendor.

barlop

the question is no use to the OP. 'cos the OP was just hoping he could pick one up at a local store(rather than wait a few days for a new one to arrive from the manufacturer), and found out he can't and deleted the question. If he'd have been more considerate of the community he would've called the manufacturer and found out the name of the cable(if it had a name), and posted it

Bob

13:47

Ok. Never installing Windows updates again.

@barlop looks a lot like a serial cable

Tx Rx GND

Journeyman Geek

@barlop was a guessing game question.

and a pretty bad one, since it could have been a standard serial cable, or something wierd

barlop

13:59

yeah i know they're not really fitting in the terms of the site. Just saying it was an interesting one imo.

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu makezine.com/projects/…

crl

14:33

Hi guys, do you know how I could intentionally create a 1MB fake and broken (not openable) .zip file?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek kickstarter.com/projects/910418035/plastic-bottle-cutter

I'm somewhat interested but the shipping price ... bleh

crl

it's to fake its presence, but I don't have content for it

Bob

I should just diy one... can't be that hard

crl

no don't die yet :(

Bob

got a decent saw, got plenty of knife blades... just need to find a chunk of wood

@crl Depends who you're trying to fake it to

crl

14:34

my boss, who refuses to pay me

Bob

...

crl

want to show the logs of a gitter chat he deleted

I only saved private chat logs

yea, it's weird, but he has been really dishonnest..

Bob

@crl I don't see what that has to do with a zip? you could probably contact gitter and see if they still have it.

DavidPostill

@crl How about telling your boss the truth?

crl

already did, they can't recover anything on a deleted room

Bob

14:36

also this is something you should be contacting your government agencies for... there's usually some dept there for dealing with employer issues

anyway. fake zip... shrug

crl

> The room was deleted, we don't have a way to check for the messages or the room itself.

Bob

could be enough to just stick a PK in front of random bytes

DavidPostill

How will a fake zip file that can't be opened persuade him to pay you?

Bob

or make a real zip of a file filled with zeroes and scramble the zip after

crl

@DavidPostill well, you're right.. :/

Journeyman Geek

14:37

@crl yeah, you probably need a lawyer and/or talk to your local authorities

crl

I only have my browser history to prove the existence of this main chat (used for 5 months)

@JourneymanGeek will do of course, thanks

Psycogeek

@Bob that kickstarter reminds me of these amazon.com/s/… turn those glass bottles into something really usefull, candle holders, drinking glass, or emergency eyeglasses , etc . first there was only 1, people would buy it sometimes, use it for the coolness factor, then it joins the other stuff in the closet.

Bob

15:10

O_O

this exploded... did not expect that at all

@Psycogeek I can see the use in a plastic cutter more than a glass one :P

We go through a lot more platic bottles than glass, for one.

And string is generally more useful than candle holders...

Psycogeek

15:37

@Bob that is interesting, i never knew that. being admin already and having most of uac off, it doesnt have that problem here. Gee i miss so much fun.

Guitar Shoe Dave

15:50

@RahulBasu: That happend this weekend. I dont remember all the commands.. But if you look at your access-log and error-log the requests are likely all in there man.

DavidPostill

17 hours ago, by DavidPostill

@CMDEmu Screenshot?

@CMDEmu Ping ...

Rahul Basu

16:21

@JourneymanGeek OMG, thanks so much!

that just gave me some awesome ideas

CMDEmu

16:33

hi

Rahul Basu

sup?

CMDEmu

sleep pattern ia out the window

Rahul Basu

@crl workpace.SE

@GuitarShoeDave rahul2001.com/wip/chat4/test.html

should be secure

Bob

@RahulBasu Can I break it? ;)

CMDEmu

Ive broke IRC ans ajax chat many times

Rahul Basu

16:37

;p

Feel free to break it not the rest of my website

Guitar Shoe Dave

@RahulBasu: Im scared you may get mad at me again :(

Rahul Basu

Like I said, break the chat room - no probs. break my work-in-progress blog, and you're a dead man

;p

CMDEmu

broke it :D

its frozen

Bob

@RahulBasu Your username filtering is broken (client-side only...) but at least your output sanitisation is good :P

Rahul Basu

sigh

CMDEmu

16:44

click the url buttpn,type https://

Rahul Basu

what?

CMDEmu

click 'prevent this page from displaying this again' on the 'invalid format' msgbox

now the url button no longer works

Bob

@RahulBasu Source anywhere? :P

I don't much like black-box testing

Rahul Basu

coursesweb.net/php-mysql/script-chat-simple_s2

Bob

thanks

Rahul Basu

16:47

with my improvements...

CMDEmu

iis there any commands the user can type, or moderation

why break it if theres no mods

no fun

Bob

hm @RahulBasu looks alright at a glance

I'm off to sleep :P

Rahul Basu

yeah...

goodnight...

Bob

Huh. 5 votes from a repcap

from an answer I added on a whim

o.O

Guitar Shoe Dave

I just found a bug on yoursite

i can impersonate anybody in chat

• abcd - 21 Apr 16:55
- WellDaveJustfoundabug !!
• im_invisible - 21 Apr 16:57
- WeeeewoooWeeeWoooo !!

I have the best room in the house

If you can join it.. Feel free.

@RahulBasu: yeah you have a couple issues still.. just read convo above. Although must progress..

Rahul Basu

17:14

lol

Guitar Shoe Dave

come hang out with me in my room

we can have a parrrtty

Rahul Basu

I dont see it

why????? :/

Guitar Shoe Dave

Its there.. its invisible.

There's not a tab created for it.. But the room's really there..

Rahul Basu

h... how?

oh

Guitar Shoe Dave

If you add the tab and join you'l see

Rahul Basu

17:16

wait...

@GuitarShoeDave where did you learn all this anyways??

Guitar Shoe Dave

@RahulBasu: @Bob taught me everything I need to know about internet security.

Bob

I did what now? O_o

Guitar Shoe Dave

@RahulBasu: No actually, a lot of playing around in the nerd lab.

Bob

Pretty sure I haven't really said ... anything useful

Rahul Basu

ahh...

Guitar Shoe Dave

17:18

@RahulBasu: All self taught, self figured out.

Bob

Fyi, @RahulBasu, most of this is doable with the network debugger in devtools

Edit params and resend

Rahul Basu

@Bob it is?

Bob

You need to validate on the server side

Never ever trust client side validation

The client can send whatever data they want

Tom Wijsman

TL;DR: Do not trust any news sources and travel to Paisley Park

Guitar Shoe Dave

@bob: Yea i was just trying to get you to chuckle.

anyhow... lunch ..

Rahul Basu

17:25

@GuitarShoeDave Which country do you live in?

Guitar Shoe Dave

USA while at work.. canada.. (they tunnel thru canada)

Rahul Basu

ok...

djsmiley2k

17:53

Call me dumb, but this doesn't make sense...

drw-rw-rw- 2 nagios nagios 4.0K Apr 21 18:50 .ssh
-rw-rw-r-- 1 nagios nagios 509K Apr 21 18:53 status.dat
-rw-rw-r-- 1 nagios nagios 0 Apr 21 18:49 test
-bash-3.2$ cd ./.ssh/
-bash: cd: ./.ssh/: Permission denied

hmm need execute D:

Guitar Shoe Dave

have you seen zenoss btw djsmiley?

djsmiley2k

hmmm no?

Guitar Shoe Dave

oh you may express interest in it.

djsmiley2k

ok

Guitar Shoe Dave

(I saw you had nagios there)

djsmiley2k

17:55

hmmm, ssh-copy-id ./id_rsa

no identities found

@GuitarShoeDave it'#s not something i can change currently

I'd personally like to get away from here asap.

jokerdino

hey, anyone wants to play commandline monopoly over SSH?

Bob

@TomWijsman ???

Guitar Shoe Dave

18:26

@jokerdino: Install ttyquake (its quite fun over term) and ill play that.

allquixotic

.fooW

Guitar Shoe Dave

.pooP

bwDraco

18:51

Woof.

CMDEmu

.

wofo

Guitar Shoe Dave

.rabooF

Michael Frank

20:54

@DavidPostill Why did you format the question this way? superuser.com/a/1068291/128359

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank What do you mean? I blocked quoted all the quoted material as per How to reference material written by others

I do that in all of my answers if it is quoted material.

Michael Frank

I meant the bit where you quote the question. Seems odd to use a header for half the sentence, then a block quote for the rest.

DavidPostill

Ah. That because it looks dumb if the heading is longer than one line. My personal preference is to do it like that.

I like my answers to look good as well as be good ;)

Michael Frank

Fair enough, it just looked really odd when I was reading it

Guitar Shoe Dave

21:41

Have a great evening everybody

Try to get some sleep (nerds dont sleep)

oldmud0

22:45

weirdest thing I've heard today:
"pistol clinked upon the copyright then diving down again and stroked them boxers"

bwDraco

@oldmud0 Might be spamdexing.

!!/wiki spamdexing

ChatBot John Cavil

Spamdexing

In computing, spamdexing (also known as search engine spam, search engine poisoning, Black-Hat SEO, search spam or web spam) is the deliberate manipulation of search engine indexes. It involves a number of methods, such as repeating unrelated phrases, to manipulate the relevance or prominence of resources indexed in a manner inconsistent with the purpose of the indexing system. It could be considered to be a part of search engine optimization, though there are many search engine optimization methods that improve the quality and appearance of the content of web sites and serve content useful to...

oldmud0

actually, where I got it from might spoil the fun

my friend made a steam bot that uses simple markov chains to take text and spit it back at you in weird ways

if you're interested: steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198087309153

unfortunately it does not trade yet. Maybe in the future my friend will implement trading.

Tom Wijsman

23:03

@Bob Don't trust me!

Shahriar Shojib

Hello world

oldmud0

23:19

@ShahriarShojib Syntax error at line 0

Shahriar Shojib

sorry not a coder

Journeyman Geek

Lots of us arn't ;p

Shahriar Shojib

23:34

anyone wanna look at my nginx question?

Journeyman Geek

@ShahriarShojib chat's general chat

We typically bring up questions here for coolness or trainwreckiness.

Bob

Hm.

20 mins left, and 1 vote away from a repcap :P

So it didn't quite explode as much as it seemed last night.

@JourneymanGeek How did the birthday thing go? Did Ash just look at you funny? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob he got a new toy, and sat around most of the day cause it was too hot ;p

@Bob 20 min is plenty of time ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Time?

I can't even find another question to answer o.O

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

23:48

Even if I did, votes within ... 13 mins aren't guaranteed :P

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

Bob

10 mins

Still not found any... I give up :\

> rep cap was reached via rep from upvotes only on 21 days

29 to go

CMDEmu

hi

Bob

5 mins... nup, not happening

oldmud0

How long does it take for achievements to process?

ChatBot John Cavil

23:58

I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.

oldmud0

Say you got an upvote. How long would it take for the achievement to register?

Ben N

The Epic and Legendary badge trackers increment immediately when you hit the repcap

oldmud0

So, in a matter of milliseconds after an upvote?

Ben N

I don't know if it's that quick, but it's definitely within the hour

Transcript for