Root Access

Bob

04:00

I mean, I mutilated my graphics card, but at least I wasn't an idiot about it.

@qasdfdsaq ah.

Journeyman Geek

Lol. Idiot... Is being charitable about it.

It's a 980ti too.

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic Well, in the interviews there was quite a bit of "well it was panic and pandemonium and I thought we were all gone a die" etc. etc.

Bob

(Graphics card too long. Card itself [barely] fit. Fans [barely] fit. Fan's plastic guard was about 1cm too long... trimmed that off and left some 3mm of guard.)

qasdfdsaq

The Hudson river landing was funny cause some people were just so overdramatic...

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I don't know if I'd call any reaction to being on a falling plane overdramatic.

Journeyman Geek

04:02

Unrelatedly chrome's compression proxy rocks.

qasdfdsaq

"Oh my God were all gonna die... And the we landed and I was like oh my God were all gonna drown, then we evacuated onto the wing and we were like oh my God were gonna a freeze to death and then I got on the ladder onto the rescue boat and there was a helicopter nearby and I was like oh my God the helicopter is going to blow me off the ladder I'm totally gonna die "

bwDraco

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 3 mins ago, by bwDraco

I'm not going to say it's theoretically impossible to teach years of experience to students, but to do so would require an infeasible amount of time and resources. You'd have to explain every situation you've gone through, and since your students aren't actually going through the tasks firsthand, it's not going to be retained easily.

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 1 min ago, by bwDraco

This sort of experience is not something you could feasibly teach. You could cover the key aspects of you work, but as I said, to cover all the subtleties you learn in your line of work is utterly infeasible in practice.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob If it was necessary and it works it ain't dumb.

bwDraco

I really hate the fact that you can't readily teach or learn experience using traditional pedagogical techniques.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob eh. Deadstick landings aren't panic worthy. Planes don't just fall out of control, even with no engines.

Bob

04:03

@JourneymanGeek ...look at some of the jerry-rigged power socket 'adaptors' and say that again.

@qasdfdsaq As a passenger who doesn't know what exactly is going on... I can see the reason for panic. I probably would too.

Even if you know more than most... it was on takeoff (not much alt). Don't know if hydraulics were still working. etc.

Journeyman Geek

This was not so (manual says to ignore that hole) and a smaller screw + washer would have been a safer bet.

Psycogeek

@bwDraco probably because they would teach it with words like pedagogical :-)

qasdfdsaq

@Bob yeah but if you had survived the landing, evacuated onto a life raft and were in the process of boarding a rescue boat would you still be thinking oh my God I'm going to fall off the ladder and die?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob built a few. Could do em better. My PC has shut down a few times due to shorts.

qasdfdsaq

Most people by that point would be like "the worst is over, I'm probably gonna survive"

Bob

04:06

@qasdfdsaq Uhm... maybe? :P depends if the panic has worn off yet

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq fear does funny things to people.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob regardless, statistics say something like >80% of people survive plane crashes. On average.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob unless you mean mains.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq That's surprisingly high. How do they define crash?

@JourneymanGeek *nods*

qasdfdsaq

Any landing that isn't on the wheels?

Bob

04:07

@qasdfdsaq Huh. I'm really surprised the survival rate is that high, tbh.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I know enough to know mains hurts :p

qasdfdsaq

They do could things like collapsed nose gear or when they had to skid on the engines cause the belly gear got stuck.

@Bob I'm more surprised by the opposite, accidents where most or all passengers die despite the plane never even getting of the ground.

Psycogeek

how do they define survive? well they have 3 brain cells and one working limb, you luckey

qasdfdsaq

> Looking at all the commercial airline accidents between 1983 and 2000, the National Transportation Safety Board found that 95.7% of the people involved survived. Even when they narrowed down to look at only the worst accidents, the overall survival rate was 76.6%. Yes, some plane crashes kill everyone on board.

bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq When plane crashes happen, it's either no or very few injuries, or everyone on board dies.

That's just the way it works.

qasdfdsaq

04:11

Even that horrific sioux city crash had a 62% survival rate, and that was a seriously bad crash.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I wonder... they're looking at accidents, not really crashes

How is accident defined?

I mean, if that includes a loss of thrust at altitude that's pretty recoverable, as you said.

bwDraco

Dec 27 '15 at 6:24, by bwDraco

If only automobile drivers were held to the same standards...

qasdfdsaq

Eh. Their words not mine.

Bob

Loss of maneuverability is usually deadly

qasdfdsaq

> analyzing airline accidents from 1983 to 2000, the National Transportation Safety Board found that the survival rate of crashes was 95.7%

Bob

04:12

Loss of thrust on takeoff or landing likewise

bwDraco

Dec 27 '15 at 6:52, by bwDraco

I don't have a driver's license yet, but I'd pick a driving school with a simulator any day of the week over one that doesn't.

qasdfdsaq

People seem to quote the figures differently.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I really do wonder about the severity of 'crashes'

qasdfdsaq

Loss of thrust on takeoff on one engine isn't too bad.

bwDraco

I really, really wish automobile drivers were held to the same stringent standards commercial airline pilots are.

qasdfdsaq

04:13

Loss of multiple engines is bad, loss of part of the wing is the worst though.

bwDraco

...even if this means I might never get a license.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Loss of part of the wing is pretty ridiculously unlucky :P

qasdfdsaq

Most fatal "loss of thrust at takeoff" accidents actually were the result of collateral damage taking out part of the wing or its hydraulics causing an aerodynamic stall.

Stall at low speed and altitude with no stall warning is incredibly difficult if not impossible to recover.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Single wing stall + roll is worse than a full stall

At least with the latter you might end up back on the wheels/belly

qasdfdsaq

But on the other hand even slamming straight into the side of a mountain at cruising speed is survivable... Just.

Bob

04:15

But it's with a full fuel load too... hello, fire

qasdfdsaq

Yeah fire is bad. Real bad.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Those are pretty ridiculous.

Humans are both amazingly tough and amazingly fragile.

Survive slamming into a mountain at mach 0.8, but can die from falling over and bumping your head wrong.

qasdfdsaq

Survives slamming into the side of a mountain at mach 0.8, dies from eating a peanut.

Psycogeek

@bwDraco per hour or per mile? per hour people are not at less risk than in a car, so while it is "safer" to travel by airline, it is not safer to live next to a pilot :-)

stats again, all how you twist it

Bob

Wasn't it @allquixotic who said he prefers driving because he's in control?

Was a couple years back.

Psycogeek

04:24

i prefer driving, bscause of dog , and i have better driving record than (most) of them

dog cant drive for crap [-;

Journeyman Geek

Meet Porter. The World's First Driving Dog.

►

Sure they can

Psycogeek

sure then a squirrel runs across the road and....

bwDraco

I wish there were more driving schools with simulators around here...

Psycogeek

that dog just wants treats, for actions, they need to show the dog how to use the device to pick up bitches (female dogs), then he'd be driving

Bob

@qasdfdsaq This is getting ridiculous ozbargain.com.au/node/238448

Except I've already used my three uses of that code. Not sure if I should be relieved or disappointed :P

(GPS, washing machine and laptop)

40

Q: How is y’all’dn’t’ve pronounced

According to Wikipedia, y’all’dn’t’ve is a valid contraction. I am having difficulty pronouncing the L-D-N-T-V consonant cluster, especially since there is no vowel at the end (silent E). Y’all’dn’t’ve any advice or audio samples would you?

Psycogeek

04:43

@Bob pretty easy, just get yall self drunk'n and then slur it out like it originated

if you dont drink, try riding bulls,or just bash ya' head into something a few times

bwDraco

Fiddling with the camera app, shooting as fast as I can.

I've shut down the thermal core control in a kernel control app, so cores are simply being throttled instead of being shut down.

My phone is now getting extremely hot.

The phone was so hot that the vibration felt noticeably different.

XKCD

05:08

The failures usually don't hurt anything, and if it installs several versions, it increases the chance that one of them is right. (Note: The 'yes' command and '2>/dev/null' are recommended additions.)

2

Bob

lol

I could use that

Reminds me of github.com/nvbn/thefuck

Bob

05:27

> Renews automatically on April 1, 2017

welp

allquixotic

05:40

@XKCD nice one, Randall

bwDraco

Just discovered a perk of having root: by having control over SoC performance, I can selectively disable CPU cores to give the GPU more thermal budget, which can improve sustained performance in GPU-bound games.

Bob

> Friday, 10 March 2016

wot.

Can someone test my.visualstudio.com?

allquixotic

@Bob looks down from here

bwDraco

@Bob Down for me.

Bob

Well. That sucks.

What a waste of money.

Just called them. 24 hour ETA? What a bloody joke.

Oh. Annnnd it comes back up as soon as I get off the phone.

Veeeeery funny, MS.

At least it's working now :\

allquixotic

06:02

@Bob that's so weird that it went down right as you bought the sub

Psycogeek

#1 priority, get customers money. #2 who said there is a 2?

Bob

Well, I can download VS and other stuff now. But I still can't access the MSDN sub :\

@allquixotic That's me. Breaker of websites and things.

Bob

06:25

@JourneymanGeek Ok, now I have my hands on a Win10 VM :P

Just gotta figure out how Growl works...

Bob

06:49

+1, putting a large red sphere in space to point out a supernova is like using a lighthouse to point out a bigger exploding lighthouse. — DaaaahWhoosh 14 hours ago

Journeyman Geek

@Bob you just install it. You can run test notifications off it but I use gntp-send from Linux.

bwDraco

foxnews.com/world/2016/03/11/…

If the DPRK is this hell-bent on the conquest of South Korea, it may be necessary to begin military action.

I really hope we can somehow stop the DPRK before it's too late.

Bob

...or it's their yearly cry for attention.

bwDraco

time.com/4252372/north-korea-nuclear-missile-attack

The DPRK is expressing a clear intent to launch an attack. The whole world will respond, and chances are good the North will be in ashes. The big question is how much collateral damage will result and how much damage the DPRK will be able to inflict before the threat is neutralized.

Even their last remaining allies are condemning their actions.

What I truly fear, however, is the potential fate of Seoul, a cornerstone of the global economy and home to Samsung, LG, and countless other big corporations.

A.O.

07:18

anyone dealt with DMA Locker Virus?

Psycogeek

07:34

@A.O. this guy has blog.malwarebytes.org/intelligence/2016/02/… even seems to still be asking for samples?

i am assuming that is the actual MWB website blog location, because those guys like that semantics (sp) group are good at providing users real info about virus, not copy paste robo built web pages.

lol, it seems to say the Key is there in the programs, so it sounds "fixable"

Psycogeek

07:52

with the criminals being stupid enough, removing the virus , which is the 99% method, may very well be the stupidest thing to do in this case.

Burgi

08:33

hello

i hit the rep cap yesterday :D

Journeyman Geek

Nice

@Bob most likely this.

Bob

Ok... @allquixotic I'm gonna cancel that sub asap -_-

apparently the cloud annual subscription does not include Windows MSDN licences

despite all the comparison pages claiming it's identical

... :S

Burgi

my boss said that he has bought me an MSDN sub but i am yet to see any evidence of it

bwDraco

My phone is willing to get dangerously hot under sustained load, even with thermal throttling.

A 4K UHD video recording test caused the Nexus 5X to hit insane internal and surface temperatures, in excess of 45 C.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob what were you looking for? Windows 10/workstation oses?

bwDraco

08:46

In fact, I restored normal thermal controls, shutting down the A57 cores, and it still got this hot.

Journeyman Geek

Or are the red circled stuff just not there?

bwDraco

I'm also getting very concerned about the integrity of the battery at this point.

70 C is the hard safety limit for Li-ion batteries.

Your thoughts on mobile device overheating and safety?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Pretty much.

@JourneymanGeek Just not there.

Well, technically they're available on Azure, but bleh.

Burgi

@bob can you not d/l the VM from azure?

Bob

09:06

@Burgi ...no?

I'm looking for an actual legit licence.

And I'm actually using it for dev/test.

Psycogeek

@bwDraco ahh the cpu can hit 60*C no problem, be nice if it wouldnt. Indeedy the battery, the more hot it gets over general room temps, the more bad it is for it. Yes 70 would destroy it much faster (degrade it in hours of that), but to get it to "vent with flame" generally it is charging AND extreeme heat that causes that. charging adding to the heat already present.

i think my snap dragon get to around 60*C when in california (heat), doing GPS 3D, with the core control off, about 54-57. and it is sucking most for the battery.

I have seen the battery hit ?? somewhere around 45*c , but i am sure it has gone over that. There is some gadget that monitors it on home screen and on my gadget status screen. the battery is still "oK"

Rahul Basu

Hey, can anyone tell me what the paths that begin and end with % are know as? (for eg. %systemroot%)

DavidPostill

Standard (built-in) Environment Variables

ss64.com/nt/syntax-variables.html

@RahulBasu

Rahul Basu

@DavidPostill Thanks...

Can we add one?

miniXP from HBCD has %HBCD%

DavidPostill

You can add system level and user level environment variables

Bob

09:19

@DavidPostill They're not necessarily standard or built-in...

@RahulBasu Search "environment variable" in start menu search.

Or use setx

Rahul Basu

@DavidPostill @Bob Thanks...

Bob

Note that user envvars override system ones, except PATH which prepends

DavidPostill

@Bob ?

Rahul Basu

I have no idea what that means... :P

DavidPostill

@Bob The ones listed in the link including systemroot are ...

mostly present on Windows 7

I don't have the domain ones, but then I'm not on a domain ...

Bob

09:24

@DavidPostill I just mean that they generally aren't

The way you said it kinda implied that they all are

DavidPostill

@Bob Ah, OK. I was referring to the specific set of which systemroot is a member ;)

As documented in the link.

Burgi

if you have 2 machines on separate vlans they can't interact (ping etc) with each other without a bridge of some sort, correct?

Bob

09:41

@Burgi Yea... iirc

I don't do vlans :P

Burgi

me neither, i only vaguely remember a discussion with an old workmate when he tried explaining them to me

0

Q: Teamviewer over SG300-52 52-Port without any others traffic

I have a VLAN1 IP 172.16.0.65, Subnet 255.255.255.244 and a VLAN2 IP 172.16.0.129, Subnet 255.255.255.244. I have set the switch to Layer 3. All I want is close all traffic between PC1 IP 172.16.0.70 in VLAN1 and other PC2 172.16.0.134 in VLAN2 except Teamviewer. Notes: Teamviewer is working o...

networking port cisco teamviewer vlan

i think he is trying to do the impossible

but i don't know enough to help :(

Psycogeek

10:23

disconnect them from the internet using the vlan setup, then reconnect them to eachother using the bridging, then disconnect them from all other traffic and programs using the firewall. makes perfect sence to me LOL not.

next is to complain about how slow it is

Psycogeek

10:38

1

Q: How do I add mail back to yahoo inbox after download?

For the first time, I use MS Outlook 2007 for Yahoo Mail and I've configured it. All of the emails have downloaded from the Yahoo server and to Outlook and as a result, the Yahoo inbox is completely empty. How can I undo it and add the mail back to my Yahoo inbox (about 300 emails)?

windows-7 microsoft-outlook-2007 yahoo-mail inbox

Duhh, hit the UNDO buton.

Burgi

@Psycogeek not if he is using POP3

Bob

@qasdfdsaq engadget.com/2016/03/10/samsung-does-a-galaxy-s7-teardown o.O

Psycogeek

yes, probably needed to hit the "keep copy on the server" button prior.

Burgi

the old Shuttle XPCs used to have a similar cooling system

Bob

Oh god.

Over the Horizon 2016: Samsung Galaxy Brand Sound by Dirty Loops

►

this is hilarious

Burgi

10:45

not sure how effective it was because in the summer i had to run caseless

Bob

I mean the original was alright

but this one has got to be a joke

Burgi

> Thank you for reviewing 20 first posts today; come back in 13 hours to continue reviewing.

does this review time increase?

i'm sure it used to be 12 hours

Bob

DST?

Burgi

thats at the end of march isn't it?

Bob

idk

DavidPostill

11:01

@Burgi It renews at 12:00 midnight

Burgi

ah! ok

Abhishek Bhatia

I have a whiteboard which is used to move mouse on a respective computer when connected through usb.

It works perfectly on Windows but shows no movement on Ubuntu machine.

I am following the instructions as mentioned in the answer http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75558/ubuntu-make-fails-with-no-such-file-or-directory-lib-modules-3-4-0-build/75584#75584 to install cp210x.

I am able to see it connected, but not movement.

autoroot@autoroot:~/src/linux-source-3.2.0/drivers/usb/serial$ lsusb

Any suggestions?

DavidPostill

2

Q: Wireless driver for mouse movement on LInux/windows (with the help of interactive board)

I have moved to mainly working on Linux machine primarily Ubuntu 15.04. Please the question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/731546/wireless-driver-for-mouse-movement-on-ubuntu-15-04 I have a wireless board with genee powerboard http://www.genee-india.com/interactive-whiteboards/genee-powe...

windows wireless-networking usb python

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Meh, nothing too revealing in there....

Abhishek Bhatia

I am only trying to make it work with a wired usb in ubuntu.

No wireless.

DavidPostill

11:06

@AbhishekBhatia It's a wireless board

Abhishek Bhatia

It also has usb cable to connect PC.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob yeah I know :-/ when I was going through the ringtones on the phone I came across this. It was so terrible I didn't even get far enough into it to realise it had words

DavidPostill

@AbhishekBhatia This is too complicated to try and troubleshoot in chat. Please ask a new SU question referring to the other one if you think it will help set context.

qasdfdsaq

Got about 5 seconds into it, went WTF and shut it down.

Psycogeek

@Bob can a person (me) setup firefox browser with script and activeX and flash blocking (seperate preferably) , then when on a specific site in a tab , unlock just that tab , and continue to use those features? That is how my old crusty browser and method works. Basically fully locked out (cept text and pics) then unlock with one click when on a known reliable site?

Journeyman Geek

11:20

@DavidPostill heh, @AbhishekBhatia has been at this for months.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek I know ;)

Burgi

flag as "impossible" right next to cold fusion and perpetual motion?

Abhishek Bhatia

any suggestions?

it seems to work on ubuntu 15 but not on ubuntu 12

Burgi

upgrade the ubuntu 12 machine to 15?

i nearly failed my degree due to the entire bluetooth stack in ubuntu not working until the very next release

submission deadline was 2 weeks before the new version came out

qasdfdsaq

11:46

derp

I suck

Abhishek Bhatia

That could be the last resort, any other way?

qasdfdsaq

Figure out why it's not working on 12 and backport whatever is needed?

Bob

@Psycogeek you can do it per-site but not per-tab afaik

@Psycogeek or you can do it per-element

noscript might have a per-tab option. i don't use it

@qasdfdsaq lol. "Sounds like sonic the hedgehog and someone squeezing Michael Jacksons balls."

that's how someone described it

Abhishek Bhatia

On my windows machine it shows as USB Composite Device

@qasdfdsaq any suggestions on how to do that?

qasdfdsaq

1. Learn linux troubleshooting.
2. Apply knowledge.
3. ???
4. Profit!

Bob

12:02

!!tell 28178193 listen s/^4\..+/4. Magic smoke escaped/

...did he died

!!info

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob I awoke on Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:00:07 GMT (that's about 12 hours ago), got invoked 1 times, teleported 84 goats

Burgi

o.O

Bob

!!tell 28178193 listen s/4\..+/4. Magic smoke escaped/ 28178193

DavidPostill

I wonder where the goats ended up?

Bob

!!tell 28178193 listen s/4\..+/4. Magic smoke escaped/28178193

ChatBot John Cavil

12:04

2Q: Wireless driver for mouse movement on LInux/windows (with the help of interactive board)I have moved to mainly working on Linux machine primarily Ubuntu 15.04. Magic smoke escaped
askubuntu.com/questions/…

I have a wireless board with genee powerboard genee-india.com/…...windows wireless-networking usb python [$source$](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/28177522#28177522)

Bob

how2bot

oh there we go. except I failed hard :D

qasdfdsaq

sauce link is weird too

DavidPostill

lol

Bob

how on earth did it catch that message

qasdfdsaq

!!trout @ChatBotJohnCavil

ChatBot John Cavil

12:05

slaps @ChatBotJohnCavil around a bit with a large trout!

qasdfdsaq

!!trout himself

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq can we teleport the sauce to go with the goats?

ChatBot John Cavil

slaps himself around a bit with a large trout!

qasdfdsaq

DavidPostill

LOL

qasdfdsaq

12:17

Erik Lund - Tokyo Sunset

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Forivin

12:42

Is anyone around who could tell me why question on superuser was too broad? What should I change, how do I get it open again? superuser.com/questions/1048177/…

I have a hard time understanding how a question that could theoretically be answered with "yes" or "no" could be too broad.

qasdfdsaq

Overzealous close-voters who don't understand the question?

DavidPostill

@Forivin How can anyone answer yes or no when you don't specify 1. The host OS 2. What VM you are using 3. What graphics card and driver version you are using. Without that information I can just guess the answer and have a 50% chance of being correct.

@qasdfdsaq ^^^^^^

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill Linux: Yes, Windows: No. Now that was hard wasn't it.

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq If you are so confident why don't you vote to repopen and then answer the question?

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill Because it's not in the re-open queue?

You've been told before. If a question can be fixed by changing one or two words it does not deserve to be close voted.

Even then simply asking if it's possible, without caring if it's possible with every specific piece of software of that category does not make something too broad.

DavidPostill

12:57

@qasdfdsaq I suppose you never noticed the "reopen" link under the question?

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill Nope :-(

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq I believe it should be visible if you have >3k rep

qasdfdsaq

One of these days when Ramhound is on holiday I might get back to actually answering questions again.

Preferably before I completely forget how the site works :-/

#NoRegrrets #YOLO

Burgi

why wait until he is on holiday?

Forivin

I would be interested in answers related to any common Unix or Windows OS. So should I add all the operating systems to the Question? I feel like that shouldn't be necessary?

DavidPostill

13:01

@qasdfdsaq Which one or two words would you change then?

qasdfdsaq

@Burgi Because the rest of the time he constantly bitches about my answers and it peeves me off to the point I can't be bothered answering anymore

@DavidPostill Personally? None, because I don't think it should have been closed in the first place. But to satisfy your criticisms of not having specified the host OS, then I would put "On Windows". The graphics card, driver, and VM are basically irrelevant.

Burgi

interesting... i am glad it isn't just me

qasdfdsaq

@Burgi Heh

DavidPostill

@Forivin @qasdfdsaq seems to think the answer should be "Linux: Yes, Windows: No". Does that help?

Forivin

Kind of. But I don't understand if that would mean that the host and guest would have to be Linux.

qasdfdsaq

13:07

Only the host. Windows basically can't do any form of PCIe passthrough. Linux can passthrough just about anything.

Forivin

Would that just mean that the host has to be Linux and the guest could be whatever you want including Windows?

And just to clarify: the Linux host actually make use of the graphics card while it is not assigned to the vm without requiring host restarts, is that correct?

qasdfdsaq

Yes, and yes.

And urgh, SSL certificates expired yesterday and Chrome refuses to let me visit the page.

Back to Firefox then, which still has an "Add exception" button

Forivin

Thank you! That definitely answered my question. :)

Burgi

13:30

do you think the SO model could work for a corporate helpdesk or for logging bugs?

Ell

Howdy folks

Forivin

@Burgi I don't think that it would be good platform to log bugs. A bug tracking software like bugzilla would probably a better choice for that.

Bob

@Burgi nup. Q&A is not conversational

qasdfdsaq

13:45

It is when I'm involved!

Ell

Okay - I need to read in a keypress (I'm emulating emacs style bindings with xbindkeys)

Anybody got any ideas for reading a single keypress?

I'm thinking xev

Burgi

we currently use spiceworks for everything

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