@FaheemMitha it is a respectable profession

Which is the worst reason to get into IT

It's respectable?

the concept of respectable... is wierd

O.o

Just got a random call from "+1 1000000"

That doesn't even look valid

What the heck?

What, if anything, did you hear from the other party?

Caller IDs are trivial to fake.

> Your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please check the number and dial again.

(Smartphone on AT&T, including the +1.)

Without the +1, I get a fast busy signal (reorder tone).

...which means it's an invalid phone number.

@bwDraco a Mandarin phone "hello" ("wei") followed by "oh sorry wrong number" in a Chinese accented English when I answered in English

Seems to be a misdialed international call.

Heh, well that explains that then.

@qasdfdsaq most people just hide theirs instead of faking an invalid (?) number

A lot of calling cards/VOIP transit providers use arbitrary caller IDs because the original is unavailable.

Also, isn't +1 USA and Canada?

Caller ID system could not determine the source number, hence the 100-0000 oddity.

@Bob Yes.

@qasdfdsaq probably. I don't usually receive international calls

In my city, a very large law firm took the number 444-4444.

I'm guessing they receive a couple hundred random calls every day..

(212) 777-7777 is a car service company here in New York.

Is there any better way to check for updates to a database than polling ?

I know that it's primary key will be incremented so i have the key index in a file

And after reading it, I update the offset

1-800-SUPRUSR

@HackToHell a post-insert or post-update hook

@Bob Does postgres support something of that kind?

It's not feasible to call something from the place where the data is inserted

@HackToHell google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=postgres%20post-update%20hook

We are the borg.

@Bob yeah I did that, there doesn't seem to be any easy way

sigh

@HackToHell Ah, the term was trigger

Aha !

anitagraser.com/2010/12/10/…

That's sorta funny ;p

If that's possible, I should be able to do anything

Ty

I think hook is what MSSQL calls it

@JourneymanGeek I used hook as a generic term :P

See, git commit hooks, etc..

ahh ;p

Though I suppose trigger also makes sense in this context.

0_0

I think he is talking about.. yeah no idea.

. . . My friend told me, I often assume that , the friend attempts a full explaination of something that is more complicated than what they get out of it, possibly also combinations of principals that the friend may have read about. They should be clarifying the 3rd hand knowledge transfer first, read the approprite article first hand, Then ask a question.

Instead it is , my friend confused the heck out of me with a bunch of technobabble , please clear up the corrupt memory transfer in my neurons.

@Psycogeek it's possible this person is talking about the data recovery after you delete something in your hard drive.

blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994&_utm_source=1-2-2

If anyone runs linux mint here (does anyone?) they need to see this

back to "trust no one" verify them :-)

I've discovered how Intel are doing so well. They appear to be able to call upon information from over a year from now.

@Bob, thanks for your help. It looks like this now.

alien infusion, they only trust intel with the advance information :-)

@Jonno lol

every 10 seconds, hmmm. This (old XP) game began balking the video every 10 seconds, i had been playing it for days and daze , now something balks it. The cpu use drops to nothing during that time, so it is unlikely to be another cpu sucking task, although it could be something across the bus.

Could be the audio (of all things) because some of the audio also has failed, but not all of it, and all the other programs are working fine still.

I would disable and enable the audio device and windows audio, but i assume already that would ask me to reboot. Only different thing running or plugged in was the Phone , and its stupid software (mass storage was wonderfull). a USb device Polling at 10Sec intervals , high probability.

it isnt heat of either gpu or cpu, because I am monitoring it, and the game only uses one core anyways.

Then there is that DWM , windows aero junk and its use of the 3D. DWM dumb windows mess :-) It probaly has a polling interval?

New Samsung SSD 750 EVO uses planar TLC NAND, and the performance is a lot better than you may expect.

tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-750-evo-ssd,4467.html

nope, tossed DWM after changing to classic. argg what else polls at 10s?

Looks like we have a real contender for a good budget SSD...

@bwDraco hasn't that been available a while?

Not in the States until now.

I've got work to do, see you later.

that's the disk I have on the mini 10, which is kinda hobbled by the damned thing being stuck in compatibility mode

ahh me thinks it is the audio, games uses Xact with sound banks. now i just need a DXflush tool.

Last week It was a Video card Purposfull live reset tool, i shouldnt have to crash the video card to force that "gpu Recovery" thing.

If it would do a GPuRecover when IT needs to because of a fail, then they should also supply me a software button to do it when I deem it to be failed , enough to try that .

I am sure it wouldnt actually fix anything, but it would have been fun to watch it try.

Hi

lo

SQUIRREL

Yes I know its misspelt

Oh, I didn't notice. I was making a dog joke.

Oh

cool nic, i once wanted to name a company the Blue Squirrel, and i found the logo for it laying in the road , i am guessing it was a slow blue squirrel :-)

Trying to type from an android phone

Yeah...

This is a lot different than ask-ubuntu chat

you can always use the speech to text in the android phone, then spend the 90% of the time just correcting text instead of typing it :-)

Different rooms have different cultures

Most of the regulars don't seem to be awake tho

Actually its midnight here

@thebluesquirel pls

I'd rather not scream at my phone right now :)

Wish the app had chat built in

Having to use a browser

there used to be a standalone chat app

Ok

but development stopped cause the new chat was good enough ;p

unofficial of course

Does stack exchange have irc?

nope

Thought not

would be nice, but some features don't really translate well

like oneboxen and edits

I figured they just liked keeping logs

naw

People here good at networking ?

Well, depends.

In Linux?

My network works 99.9% of the time , , , so i forgot everything about it .

well, at some point we may point you at the main site

depends on what you want to do

Ok

Is there any way to get better WiFi speed out of netbook?

ahh

Witchcraft

;p

Umm no

You would likely have multiple things slowing you down

Walls, shitty cheap wifi adaptors...

use a wire :-)

netbooks may not have ethernet

so, no not really

I'm guessing something software based is slowing me down

naw

use a wire with wireless (really) just lay it close to both antenna and you get max speeds always. even the tinyest of wires will do it.

wifi just sucks in general

Yeah...

Anyway to speed up telnet???

Nevermind

0_0

You shouldn't really use telnet ;p

But I love telnet :)

and if telnet is slow as opposed to unreliable, something is wonky with your system host

Its nice and easy with lots of games XD

I'm getting "frame" errors in ifconfig

...

I'm good at killing conversation aren't I ?

Isnt telnet faster than ssh?

I dont know linux, in winders if we had such things we tweak the TCP parmeters until nothing fixes it, then buy something :-) nowdays the nic device also has 151 parameters to adjust , some that can get more stability over speed.

Ok

Not a big windows fan

I do like xp though :)

Best windows there was... sorta

the other peoples here know linux well and (if you ask me) they are more expert at networking than they may admit.

I'm still trying to learn linux

Been doing for a little over a year

Glad I switched...

You don't have to jump through 21 hoops to get to telnet :)

I mean who doesn't love telnet?

People born after its demise?

Lets ask around on the BBS :-)

They're still running ;)

I've been on a few but no one else is...

yes , and i should visit one too, just cant get it to work with Skype :-)

I'd rather kill time playing mtrek

text based star trek game???

Yeah

Played via telnet :)

Cant do that with ssh

Or check the weather

You know of any good BBS online ?

You like cats?

I gtg

@JourneymanGeek Well, it pays well. You're talking about India, I assume.

@qasdfdsaq It seems you really like foxes.

@FaheemMitha pays well, maybe

but a lot of folk seem oddly clueless about stuff a good IT person needs to know

At least in India, people worry less about their interest in the profession, and more about how well it pays. Which is why Indian doctors and computer engineers are often so terrible. Also, lawyers.

da

@JourneymanGeek In India, or generally?

@JourneymanGeek da?

oh more the former, somewhat the latter

da = yes

Prolly russian ;p

@JourneymanGeek Ah, si. Yes, Russian.

and that a good or even mediocre programmer has a different skillset at his core from someone who might want to work in operations

@JourneymanGeek As I tell people, use the nice reply linky thing. It's your friend. Unless you are are on mobile, which it seems does not support it.

@JourneymanGeek operations?

@JourneymanGeek You're Indian, right? I keep forgetting that. Though I don't know whether you self-identify as Indian or Singaporean.

hmm. The people who know how to beat an OS into submission, or lasso the wild server...

@FaheemMitha neither.

I identify as a geek ;p

@JourneymanGeek Hmm.

I do have a singaporean passport and have done my part as a citizen of singapore

even if I do not subscribe entirely to the viewpoints of many of my countrymen

Anyway, educational levels in India are quite low, which doesn't help.

My parents are pretty oldschool

Its not just about education. I found uni a complete chore.

@JourneymanGeek One should not subscribe entirely to the viewpoint of anything, imo. Think for oneself, that's the ticket.

@JourneymanGeek Did you go to uni in SG?

amongst others.

I dropped outta uni twice

Also, British people say uni.

I have a degree now, but I don't feel any smarterer ;)

I hear SG has some reasonable universities. Even though it is small. National University? I hear it's a popular destination for rich Indians kids.

@JourneymanGeek A degree is just a piece of paper.

I went to NTU for a bit

Possibly expensive parchment paper, with fancy lettering. You can frame it.

@JourneymanGeek How was it?

in my day (2003ish), teaching standards were bad enough students complained a lot.

and I dropped out in first year ;p

@JourneymanGeek What, at NTU?

Yeah

Oh, that's too bad.

Unrelated tho, I had a ton of personal issues I had to work through

I see. Don't we all?

I had all the drama at once

Sounds rough.

You're better off in SG than in India, though.

Well yeah

getting a job here is a bit of a pain tho

Other things being equal. The worst thing I hear about SG is that it is rather authoritarian. But that's better than living in a disaster zone like India.

Well, disaster zone + large lunatic asylum.

You can tell I'm not a fan, probably.

Singapore's a great place if you're a square peg for a square hole.

@JourneymanGeek Really, even in computers?

heh

Applied for quite a few jobs where I certainly have the skills and experience.

No calls.

Not one.

Well one. Went 2 interviews. Then silence

Apparently in SG they arrest you, or maybe fine you, if you litter. I'm guessing they are also very intolerant towards political dissidents.

when I dropped them an email, I was told 'oh, management decided not to fill the role'

@JourneymanGeek Oh. Well, job hunting is always very stressful. Is it easier now?

Oh, they just wait for you to say something that can be seen as libel and sue you

@FaheemMitha talking about now ;p

@JourneymanGeek Oh. :-(

Its prolly worse since I currently have an application out for a job that's a perfect fit for me, and no word yet.

@JourneymanGeek Who is "they"?

'The man'

;p

@JourneymanGeek Oh. Fingers crossed.

@JourneymanGeek The SG govt?

Which is better than it used to be

Look up 'operation coldstore'

So, what you are doing right now?

Looking for work, catching up on TV ... ;p

Sidebar: Is SE activity of any use in your job search? Do they even know what it is?

@JourneymanGeek Contracting work is hard to get too?

@FaheemMitha depends on the employer I suppose

so far 2 calls. One asked if I wanted to move boxes for microfilming

@JourneymanGeek Jesus.

The second tried to lowball me, and when I asked for information anyway, went quiet.

Hmm, doesn't sound good. Sorry about that. Would you be willing to move?

and this is NOT atypical

'operation coldsore' ?

kinda. I do have a minor thing tying me here so I'm focusing locally

@JourneymanGeek I see.

Well, SG isn't a large place. I imagine the US is easier, for example. Or Europe.

and I've only been unemployed since september, and had pay till november

sitting at home... kinda sucks

@JourneymanGeek I'm sure. Are you involved in any open source projects? If not, you could give that a try. It helps to raise visibility.

Though, come to think of it, I don't know if you program.

@FaheemMitha I'm not a coder

I quite literally do everything else.

Coldstore was in 1963, btw. Isn't that ancient history?

@JourneymanGeek Would you consider learning? Or is that just something you don't like to do?

Personally I prefer programmer to coder. But that's just me.

@FaheemMitha tried a few times

I see.

Python is a good choice to learn with, I think.

Its just not something that I'm terribly passionate about. I might give it another shot, but I find it easier to install something from scratch and work out how it works, than to code things

Though a language designed for teaching might be easier.

I was just chatting to someone in NZ who does research in computer teaching languages. Over in the U&L chat room.

With systems I'm like 'Ok, I need to throw together X, Y, Z. I have these missing bits

I learnt python before but I have no idea how things go together still

@JourneymanGeek Hmm. Programming requires a certain amount of perseverance.

On the other hand, I have a LXD install I found documentation for and worked out in 10 minutes. I have a iscsi instance in a VM which I need to hook my rpi up to....

and I've lost interest in a free programming course once or twice.

But if you don't enjoy it, that makes it less likely you would end up being good at it.

da

Doing things you don't like to do is usually not successful.

I don't hate it. I just don't have the same level of passion

And programming can kind of be a pain at the best of times. Especially with the terrible languages people use.

;p

I mean, C++ would be enough to make you hate programming even if you were inclined to like it.

I might pick up python again

I'd recommend Common Lisp, but I'm not sure if it is suitable for getting ones feet wet.

I donno

Not reached that level of annoyance with a problem yet

There is a Lisp language that is sometimes used for teaching, called Racket.

@JourneymanGeek Programming can be quite tiresome.

@FaheemMitha heh, most folks don't do 'glue' either

Mind you, there are people you get off on it. I'm not one of them.

for me the 'perfect' programming lessons would be

@JourneymanGeek Glue?

"We're going to solve this problems - these are the elements"

then walk through each part and how they fit together

so comp sci from the approach of a whole system, rather than as a linguistic exercise

@JourneymanGeek Hmm, well, programming can often be like that.

Except you usually have to break it down yourself.

but most (short?) courses arn't

and I have problems with that 'glue'

In real life, handholding is pretty rare. And the people around you often don't have a clue.

With a system I get the glue parts

@JourneymanGeek Oh. I wouldn't know. I don't think I've ever taken a programming course/class in my life.

"Hey, I need a database server, and a web server"

"I can get them to talk over sockets! Magic!"

You still need to program the database. And the web server, sometimes. Well, the content end. Also, web framework stuff.

@JourneymanGeek they have had "object oriented" programing programs that sound like that, still only gets you started , eventually if you wanted to really get it to do stuff, and fix the bugs and all so ended the easy part, on to the real code.

I've done sysadmin type stuff too. It's Ok.

Right now I have a bitorrent setup on my linux box, that sends a message over gntp notify to GFW on windows. @Bob wrote a plugin that ties it into the native windows notification system

It's very underappreciated stuff, in my experience.

afk for a bit.

@FaheemMitha I've learnt database stuff, and I do admin my own database with some googling/notes. I also run my own web server.

amusingly, if I could code, I might actually go write this.

If one can "script" it is always a start (draco and javascript ex) lots of JSers out there, must be because there is a shit pile of Js all over the thousands of web sites, also it is often seen in the local paper here , looking for coders , javascript.

1 day of JS and I already feel like I am pro.

I would feel that a person should immediataly diversify beyond that though, as soon as the money rolls in, because well Who is using BASIC now :-)

Hi Guys

I have a question

how does imei.info knows my imei number before i used any sim

i thought the imei is tied to the Phone , not the plug-in sim card, because that is what they use to ID a phone that the bill is not paid (contract obligation) or stolen.

@JourneymanGeek Write what?

Excuse the dumb question, but have you posted on SE Careers?

I don't know anything about it except that it exists.

@FaheemMitha I have a profile

Its SERIOUSLY programmer centric tho

@JourneymanGeek Ok. Is it useful to have?

@FaheemMitha I've personally not had much luck with it

@JourneymanGeek I see. That's not surprising. SE started as a programmer thing.

@JourneymanGeek Ok. Maybe it's more for people looking for programmers.

yup

and people looking for jobs as programmers

Linkedin seems useful for 'hey, there's this neat job'

Right.

Local jobs bank nets me nothing but cold calls (see above)

Linkedin's gotten me one set of interviews

If you have a specific firm you want to work for, best bet is their jobsite

I guess working remotely isn't an option in the kind of work you're looking for?

That has issues for me, but I'd do that with the right job

Is SG not a big tech hub then? I hear they're ramping up on the research front. Or they were, a few years ago.

Yes they are

Bioinformatics, that kind of stuff.

and google's hiring (and I've applied! For the perfect job for me to boot)

My question is how do i find my handset details on IMEI.info without ever using my phone

Maybe general medical research. My impression is that they want to become a powerhouse research/tech center.

So...

here's the thing with the singapore mindset

Though I don't know much about it. Duke opened some kind of center there, I think.

we want to be the best.

@Psycogeek?

We pump money into it

and sometimes loose interest

We, as in the govt?

My last job? Current subsidy cutbacks, and a change in terms. Which resulted in our entire non local staff being restructured

which had a knockon effect on local jobs it seems

And are the Singapore people backing this research thing? Or is it a purely govt thing?

@FaheemMitha most of the grand stratergy is government driven

@JourneymanGeek Oh, that's not good.

and once again, passion

@jokerdino How did the tutorial go?

(I'm not reading the rest of that massive conversation :S)

I'm applying to jobs in places I want to work for (first tier applications), and places I could work for - second tier applications

and well

Putting money into research is perfectly reasonable, imo. But you have to stay with it.

Oh, just saw the image. Looks like a decent start - now add some styling! :P @jokerdino

@CoolEulerProject for what purpose? i would think the main purpose is to buy a used phone that is cleared, instead of getting stuck. or to discover if the company still has a lein on it. what are you trying to discover using it?

@jokerdino If you want, you can draw up a picture of what you want it to look like and I can make some CSS recommendations.

Both Germany and the US have had a lot of success with it. Where success is defined by corporations making a lot of money off taxpaye-funded research.

@Psycogeek, yes I suspect its a use phone, and i am being send factory reset phone

@JourneymanGeek Well, feel free to ping me if there is anything I can do to help. If I'm not here, you can find me in the U&L chat room.

@FaheemMitha I'll manage. I've just been generally frustrated the last few weeks cause I'm hoping for a reply ;p

Ok.

(also, global economy is likely to have a minor meltdown soonish. Fun fun)

@CoolEulerProject well thieves and fraudsters have ways around the ID, they assemble parts from other stolen phones, rework broken ones to working, and buy pallettes of phones that are 1-2 years out. sooo there are lots of paste jobs out there being sold that might work badly? The IMIE stuff wont really save you or change much of anything. phone companies have 101 ways to nullify warrenties etc.

To be clear, I'm not planning to leave this room. But at some point, I might accidentally close the window or something.

I'm a mod

If I need to ping someone, I will ;)

@JourneymanGeek Well, capitalist economies are very unstable.

@JourneymanGeek Yes, I know.

@Psycogeek, ok, thanks, I just wantted to know, can IMEI.info know my imei number before i used the phone

thanks a lot

@CoolEulerProject yes one would assume so, right after you type it in ?

@Psycogeek, how do they detect its a motorola device

(or they put it in some datbase at the marketing locations)

@CoolEulerProject the number is an ID for the phone device itself, coded into the firmware.

ok, thanks, but I find it suspicious....