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00:00
Although mine has BMC now that it's no longer an issue
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
I might set up the 1280x800 10.1 inch screen again at some point
I can SSH into my motherboard even when the server is off ^_^
Mmm bot is right on time today, I wonder if @all quixotic did fix his ntp after all
Fjcing autocorrect
Bob
Bob
I have @allquixotic and @JourneymanGeek in my phone dictionary :P
at-sign and all
00:02
I rarely use my phone for SU chat, only when I'm too lazy to get out of bed basically
ahhhhh
I can't ssh into my box, nomachine seems stuck
darnit.
Urgh. NX
@qasdfdsaq works well for graphical remote stuff cross OS
I/we prefer X2Go
and is typically reliable
keeps crashing for me. I tried that
00:04
Seems to be slightly more robust in our environment
Not so much for me personally, everything's broken when I touch it
Normally I just use native X redirection unless I actually need a remote GUI session
I really ought to move the torrent stuff to a VM
Although VNC is pretty much the gold standard for robustness
You mean your "predominantly Linux live cds" torrents?
Why, of course.
I need to find me a Windows 7 disk...
You can request one from MS with a legit key ;p
00:06
My new laptop only officially supports windows 10 so I need to install Windows 7.
I have a legit key but tbh I just need to install it to grab my Win 10 update
if you ask about hardware not working, you will be soundly mocked
00:07
My hardware works fine -_-
(and eh)
I need to downgrade a box back to windows 7
hopefully that old thing will boot up
And tbh the only person who cuts you down for using a different windows version to what it came "officially supported" with is Ramhound
Bob
Bob
@qasdfdsaq can't you install 10 directly with a 7 key now?
part of the 1511 update IIRC
@Bob dunno actually. Heard conflicting information about it
Also technically my Windows 7 ultimate key is a retail key but with a special upgrade license.
Bob
Bob
@qasdfdsaq more that it didn't really work and then the standalone installer was pulled, but later reinstated (presumably with bugs fixed)
@qasdfdsaq ah... that might be a problem
00:10
Back when Microsoft was selling student licenses at absurd prices via theultimatesteal.com
Bob
Bob
I have a laptop with Win8 + Pro/Media pack. No idea how the upgrade will go there.
Officially it was an upgrade-only license, but the list of allowed OSs to upgrade from included MS-DOS and OS/2
Bob
Bob
s/1511 update/1511 version/
@qasdfdsaq O_O
So in practice it was just a retail key. Nonetheless, to stay within the terms of the license I should install MS-DOS 6.22, upgrade to 7 Ultimate, then upgrade to 10 Pro.
Bob
Bob
My last actual OS upgrade version was XP SP2
00:12
or freedos
If I can find a floppy drive to install a "legit" copy of DOS from
Bob
Bob
just stuck a 98SE CD in on the installer
it didn't even need an existing installation. just the cd
which will install off of a cd
and is legit
I'm not sure if the license said I could upgrade from Freedos, or just MS-DOS
00:13
Unless you're in the business of power-resilience testing
Bob
Bob
@qasdfdsaq dunno how 7 handles it, but XP didn't require an actual installation, just some proof that you have a (legitimate?) copy
Yeah, same with 7
Like I said it was just a retail standalone key.
They bunged some extra words on the license so technically it was an upgrade but for all intents and purposes it was just a 90% discounted retail copy
Unfortunately Windows 8.1 doesn't support the full breadth of power-management capabilities on the laptop so I'm getting poor battery life
Bob
Bob
o.O
Even Windows 10 needs a post-release update tbh
Yeah
!!learn pleasewaityourcallisimportanttous <>http://cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/img/ajax-loader.gif
@qasdfdsaq Command pleasewaityourcallisimportanttous learned
00:18
!!learn trump <>https://d8s293fyljwh4.cloudfront.net/petitions/images/135377/hero/nbc-fires-do‌​nald-trump-after-he-calls-mexicans-rapists-and-drug-runners.jpg?1448884906
@qasdfdsaq Command trump learned
!!forget trump
@qasdfdsaq Command trump forgotten.
!!learn trump <>http://i.imgur.com/qyB5S4h.png
@qasdfdsaq Command trump learned
00:18
._.
We got our neighbouring university to revoke Trump's degree!
I mean, it was a fake degree, and it was fake revoked, but meh, the whole thing was purely symbolic to begin with
there we are
!!tell 26047648 taytaytay
and ugh. Online petitons.
00:21
Meh, it worked
(ended up plugging in the big monitor to the brix, turned it on, and I can log in)
Not too happy with it. but meh
@JourneymanGeek Ah
P.S. can you change someone else's avatar?
For er... "moderation reasons"
On chat. No idea
00:23
Well chat just takes the global avatar, no?
It takes the ava for your main site
Yeah, so change it there? >_>
Notice how DavidPostill's avatar is the only one in the recent list without a fluffy red hat on?
wink wink
nudge nudge
@qasdfdsaq that's not a requirement
and wierdly its not a SU tradition
Its a SF tradition
Which is funny cause their chatroom is empty cause they all moved to slack.
Wouldn't it be funny if he came on tomorrow and suddenly his head had a fluffy red hat on?
It would be an abuse of my dictatorial moderatorial powers
00:25
What if I flagged his current avatar as vulgar due to "over-exposure of skin"
I'd totally dismiss the flag
then suspend you. For a week.
That's not a threat by the way.
I'm not supposed to threaten people.
Nobody's suspended R.Doto despite declining like, 90% of his flags :-(
Oh, on site ;p
Here, we'll just yell at you.
00:27
Well that's where the avatar comes from, so yeah
And maybe kick you
(site suspensions = chat suspensions BTW)
Puppet accounts ftw
Not that I'd use puppet accounts to get around bans
I'm not supposed to use puppet accounts to get around bans
Oh, if you do that?
If I did that, you'll never know what I did last summer.
Main account gets suspended. Or might get the special suspension. Then pupped accounts get nuked ;p
00:29
You'll have to find me first!
I see R.Doto did actually delete himself in the end then, huh
0_0
Naw
seems to have changed his username.
Which seems marginal.
Anyway...
Pretending to delete your account by changing your username... :-/
@JourneymanGeek "Marginal"?
MARGINAL?
Aghhhhhh windows update is stuck preparing to configure Windows...
00:35
I'm not sure what sorta margins you have over in Singapore but...
Can't force shutdown without it trying to do it again..
@oldmud0 Doesn't it roll back after a few attempts? (Or one)
Safe mode said it was reverting updates and then hung trying to shut down..
@qasdfdsaq I don't want to make a fuss unless he turns up here with that username.
Yay. Another computer broken by updates
00:37
So I shut down myself and same crap.
Seems odd that so many people who are highly active in chat are actually not that active on the main site
JmG and DP excepted
How many force shutdowns does it take to kill Windows
@qasdfdsaq You mean active answering questions, or generally active - reviews, flags etc?
Bob
Bob
@qasdfdsaq I've found myself being more active on SE overall, not just SU now.
Actively ... having a high rep?
00:42
Having 20 updates fail is still better than upgrading to Windows 10
AKA being "noticeably active"
Bob
Bob
But after crossing the 20k barrier I kinda don't bother with answer spamming anymore.
Bleh, I suspect Windows 10 is going to drastically improve my battery live just like Vista did
Bob
Bob
@oldmud0 Did you remove all nonessential peripherals?
Apparently 10/1511 update had issues with SD cards.
Heck, if you have a 'special' keyboard/mouse (with special drivers), try switching to a basic one.
Yes I removed my hard drive along with my RAM and it seems to have solved the issue
Kidding obviously. I think it finished reverting now
Danks anyway
I hate installing 20 updates at a time
00:46
!!trump
Dat face :-/
Every time I see his mouth it's like he's about to drop an f-bomb
Now Safe Mode refuses to shut down, what's going on?
Install Mac OS X
It's my NIC
Just started safe mode without networking and it shut down fine.
Usually happens when there's no interweb, my network adapter just blocks shutdown for some reason.
00:51
@qasdfdsaq because none of your drivers or software work anymore ? Save power Idle.
Craptons of updates await me once more.... sigh
@Psycogeek Seems like not having drivers increase power usage
pity one can't just download all the updates at once....
@qasdfdsaq poor things gets all confused, spends hours contemplating why
So much for Mac being a great OS
Also my phone's battery is struggling to hold a charge these days
00:54
meta.superuser.com/questions/11016/… It is odd this meta about a serial downvote, the machine has not fixed it by now?
Takes a while sometimes
It's The Algorithm doing its meticulous work.
It only runs once every 24 hours
12 hours +9hours since. I have heard it can take up to 24, soo
Usually while I'm asleep
I wish Windows was a more standards compliant and expandable OS.
00:57
So I'm guessing between midnight UTC and midnight EST
Like other computer things, it only fixes itself when you just dont care anymore :-)
(actually it is when you get the needed sleep, instead of fricking up)
Bob
Bob
@oldmud0 What standards?
Also I think there should be region specific updates. Time zone and localization updates are a waste of time to the monolingual sheeple of 'Merica.
Heh, I'll take a look at meta in a bit.
I wonder what makes him think it's a serial downvoting spree and not just a serial bad answer spree?
01:01
Wow my computer just had its slowest boot on record
10 minutes
I looked and even if there was 2 that deserved a downvote (as if anybody deserves that) the whole rack of them did not.
MY ANSWER IS BETTER THAN YOURS JMG
HAHAHA
That's a first >_>
Which answer?
Meta answer
Yea, but he's got more upvotes. ;)
01:05
I posted a comment
His only upvote is from me -_-
And now we have the same
I think it's my DirecTV box messing my LANup again
@JourneymanGeek You're turning into Ramhound!
Yes it is, it won't turn on...
There's really something wrong with the stuff in my house
@qasdfdsaq I'd take that back. :o
01:08
@MichaelFrank So turning into Ramhound is a bad thing?
Conclusion: A faulty DirecTV DVR caused my desktop to fail to install updates.
2
Aghhhhhh.
@qasdfdsaq I'm sure there's an Oasis song that can answer that...
@oldmud0 I would have never have figured that out from here
And it worked. I reset the box and now my LAN works. Thanks a lot, house, for keeping everything connected and royally screwed up.
@qasdfdsaq comments are for clarification
01:13
What's the latest news on clickwrap EULAs?
Found it: nobody cares about clickwrap EULAs
From 2008.
wtf, one of my flags aged away
01:29
@JourneymanGeek But your comment is an answer!
01:40
Is it?
I quite literally confirmed it was odd, and asked him to tell me when the downvotes were rolled back
There's utterly no details
It would be a shitty answer but its a useful comment
:(
But you know the answer to everything :(
But I can't say what I know
;p
"hey, it was qasdfsaq, and I suspended him for a week..."
(no it wasn't but it could be!)
Unrelatedly
Tribble kitty!
 
1 hour later…
lol
that was a specific cat
(And I actually like gingercats)
meow
03:42
Damn cats
So cute and yet so stupid
04:02
Its evolutionary ;p
the acting stupid and cute = easy food from hyoomans.
04:28
0
Q: Monitor not displaying native resolution

InsaneProblem After updating my graphics driver to the latest version from NVIDIA, my third monitor which is an Acer V226WL is not displaying the proper and native resolution. The native resolution is 1680 x 1050. I have a GeForce 660, and have had no problems until now with my monitors. Incorrect ...

ugh
Bob
Bob
04:47
@Insane Nicely-written question :D
Ty :^)
@Insane two suggestions.
1. Include how its connected
By saying you updated your graphics driver - is this the windows update update or gforce experience?
05:14
GeForce, click the hyperlink where I said "latest version"
I can be explicit though just gotta get on my laptop
ahh ok
so its the actual latest version
Yes 100% latest
Edited question to include "downloaded direct, not using Windows Update"
Bob
Bob
Maybe try a beta version?
Huh. Didn't think of that. I'm writing that down. Got called into work so I only have my laptop.
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek No speciesism? :(
xD
I added that it's connected via DVI
hm
can you try see if another connection type works better?
That SHOULD be in spec for DVI tho
Hell, VGA does 1080p
Yeah honestly I'd have to dig through boxes just to find a VGA cable
I'll try to mess around with the connection more and let you know / edit the question
lol
Guess who just put his spare VGA cables in a labelled box? ;p
tho, I really do need to work out how to store those better than that
@JourneymanGeek Is the box labelled "cables"?
05:33
"Video Cables"
"Video cables, assorted decades"
naw, dosen't have DP and HDMI yet ;p
For me, about 5 boxes labeled "Cables, etc"
I only have one DP cable
Not the best i'll admit
05:35
I probably will have one labelled USB/Firewire spares soon
hm.
I wonder how much one of those old school metal toolboxen cost...
If I had a label on mine, it would say "cables and other stuff that fits in the cable box somewhat related to cabling"
That's precisely what I'm trying to avoid ;p
I also have a palm m515 with charging cradle I can't bring myself to throw away yet ;p
@Paul Make sure to use a fine-point sharpie for that!
My servers are experiencing high network latency. Not sure what's going on but pings are very high (averaging 200+ ms). No problems pinging 8.8.4.4 and Web pages are loading normally.
Tried pinging the speed test server on the Linode US East datacenter and I'm getting high pings there. Pings are normal to the other US datacenters.
Will be opening a support ticket.
Never mind, pings are back to normal.
The issue fixed itself before I finished composing my ticket.
05:58
@Insane Well a sharpie is definitely cable related so that can go in the box afterwards
06:13
Oh, there's labels on most of these boxes
Bob
Bob
06:33
$ /usr/bin/mandb
/usr/bin/mandb: warning: $MANPATH set, appending /etc/man_db.conf
Processing manual pages under /usr/share/man...
Updating index cache for path `/usr/share/man/man3'. Wait.../usr/bin/mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/pcredemo.3.gz: whatis parse for pcredemo(3) failed
Updating index cache for path `/usr/share/man/man8'. Wait...done.
Checking for stray cats under /usr/share/man...
Checking for stray cats under /var/cache/man...
Processing manual pages under /usr/share/man/es...
> Checking for stray cats
06:55
Lol
lol
07:11
> Our service is called AppyPaper.com and we help developers like you get their apps in front of potential users during the happiest time of the year. AppyPaper is simply a gift wrap with a curated list of app icons printed on it and made available to anyone for free. It's a fun, unique and fresh spin on the boring old holiday gift wrap that is sure to intrigue and grab attention.
I don't know what to say
Bob
Bob
07:22
Wave of blue! :P
Annnd I broke it with italics
@OliverSalzburg that sounds horribly tacky
@Bob Well, it's free ;P
The paper is anyway, placing your awesome app icon on it costs money
07:47
So, its cheap AND tacky?
07:59
hm
I'm about to retire my old altec lancings.
I suspect for the third time in their lifetimes.
08:30
(old speakers were picking up noise when there was no input, which was ALMOST inaudible at normal levels, and it was driving me barking mad)
so picked up a pair of z150s until I get something nicer
tho, has a nice large volume knob and aux in/headphone out, so its got what I consider the base feature set on the proper pair on my list.
@qasdfdsaq You may see me wearing a hat during Winter Bash 2015.
Morning
09:09
Hello.
However, I am already familiar with StackExchange and regularly use SE Network, I had misunderstanding about the on-topic of this community which is cleared today!! When I visited on-topic page today with concentration.
Let me tell why and what misunderstanding......
shoot.
I had come to SE network with my first account on AskUbuntu which is my oldest account.
As a close reason for off topic, it says "those about *Windows on SuperUser":
And the idea that SU is Q & A site for Windows (power) user. But After visiting on-topic, I found that Super User welcomes the questions about Computer Software & Hardware (in general - not relevant with Windows!)
Now, I realized that SU is actually very helpful site for Super Users!
:D
I am going to discuss on meta of AskUbuntu to change words about SU for off-topic close reason.
Well, that's more or less not entirely incorrect.
SU is essentially covering most of the scope of AU, UL and bits of AD
@JourneymanGeek what do you think about this type misunderstanding?
09:30
@Pandya well, considering AU's target audience, pushing linux questions to U&L may make sense
I am using NOD32 on 1 laptop and another laptop has fee antivirus. I am thinking of getting Kaspersky Antivirus license for $5. I could get MOD32 for $10 but want to see how Kaspersky will run.
I heard it is as effecteive as NOD32 but how resource intensive is it?
Is it close to NOD32 or Norton?
And that's really a question for AU's meta. I'm not sure of the official reasoning there.
@JourneymanGeek AUs?
@Boris_yo not talking to you ;p
I just run defender
same, no external av
09:39
0
Q: Change the topic about SuperUser on off-topic close reason

Pandya At the Off-Topic Close reason, we use "those about Windows on Super User". So, there is full chance of misunderstanding that "SuperUser is about Windows power user"! But actually SuperUser welcomes the questions about computer software and hardware (in general). So, I request to change...

@JourneymanGeek Defender is something integrated in Windows? I am still on 7...
@Pandya I think you're misunderstanding the close reason text. It's not meant to explain what the site is about, it's meant to tell the OP where they should ask their question, which is off-topic for Ask Ubuntu
YUNO link?!
@Boris_yo in that case... er.... windows security essentials I assume
@JourneymanGeek WSE or MSE?
@OliverSalzburg ubuntu.se
09:53
msse?
I donno I don't have any windows 7 boxen left
I believe it is..
10:10
@Sathya Thanks :D
there were rumours of that a while
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I'm just waiting for the announcement that they're open-sourcing Win10 :S
At this rate...
@OliverSalzburg :-D
@Bob its a unsupported product with a ton of goodwill
10:41
@Bob woot
Bob
Bob
@Sathya You use it?
used to, heavily
but not much now
11:10
iWoof

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