Root Access

allquixotic

14:00

OpenVZ has an experimental kernel out for 3.10 (CentOS7) but I've no idea if they allow guests to run their own systemd

That Brazilian Guy

Hah. "buyvm.net" is actually "FranTech.ca" that is some Francisco guy ;p

allquixotic

lol

That Brazilian Guy

OK, the VM has been paid

Psycogeek

Wait a minute didnt JMG just say that there was nothing technical or difficult about it :-)

Then allquixotic writes this book of . . .

allquixotic

@Psycogeek relative to the things he deals with on a daily basis which are far more technical, like figuring out how to stretch to lick his behind, setting up a VM is trivial

That Brazilian Guy

14:05

I got an email from them saying the payment was received, but the client area says:

Las Vegas - OpenVZ - LV BuyVM-128MB Pending

Well, I guess I'll go close some tickets while I wait ;p

allquixotic

usually they have to do some kind of manual verification

that's pretty common, unless you're an existing customer ordering more services

DragonLord

@ThatBrazilianGuy I haven't experienced this with Linode.

Not sure why this would be happening.

Journeyman Geek

lol

That.

Frantech is the parent company.

allquixotic

@DragonLord every dedicated or VPS I've ever ordered (and I've ordered a lot of both) has required me to do some kind of personal verification, or at least a manual order verification on the company side, whenever I'm a new customer with their business

obviously spinning up a new Amazon EC2 instance after having an account for a long time isn't going to set off any flags, nor is ordering a second server as an existing Hetzner customer, but the first one they generally have to, at a minimum, have a real person look at it

it might also be because he's from Brazil -- that may flag some things, since there are lots of scammers from Brazil

omg... O_O... epiphany... @ThatBrazilianGuy is trying to make a quick buck by sending spam!!!! someone ban him!

GET HIM!!!!!!!

Journeyman Geek

lol

imgur.com/gallery/it6MwJR

That Brazilian Guy

14:19

@allquixotic Hm. Maybe I should have informed my current phone number instead of "000000000".

Journeyman Geek

lol

That Brazilian Guy

And informed a valid domain name instead of "inexistentfake.com.br" (I had forgot to set the proper DNS info with the registrar and now I'm waiting for it to propagate)

Journeyman Geek

Oh, that's fine.

Mine's on a fake domain name ;p

allquixotic

> Drew looks at me
I fake a bark so he won't see

!!taytaytay

ChatBot John Cavil

That Brazilian Guy

14:25

> Your order for LV BuyVM-128MB has been provisioned, and the service is now ready for use.

:D

allquixotic

yay

> 128MB

what are you going to run on it? DOS?

That Brazilian Guy

an ssh tunnel

DragonLord

@allquixotic It's enough for a light OS with a simple static website.

allquixotic

ah. sneaky sneaky

why not openvpn though? :P

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: its good enough for a SSH tunnel ;p

@allquixotic: simpler, client's usermode in essense.

That Brazilian Guy

14:26

@allquixotic because cheap (15USD / year)

allquixotic

why are you SSH tunneling to the U.S.? buying US media?

DragonLord

Trust me, my website really only needs 256 MB to function.

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy OpenVPN is free

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: no, connection at work sucks ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek OpenVZ supports tap/tun in guests

Journeyman Geek

14:27

@allquixotic: would that run on openvz tho? tap/tun?

ahh

allquixotic

but if they have it disabled then it won't work :P

DragonLord

I'm on the 2 GB plan because I sometimes need to do more demanding tasks on it.

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic Random ports and hosts blocked at this secondary office I sometimes have to attend ;p

@allquixotic OpenVPwhat? googles it Isn't that a client software? Wouldn't I need a paid server for it?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: also we're thinking SSH tunnels cause @ThatBrazilianGuy did it before ;p

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah, on ahem someone's server ;p

allquixotic

14:30

@ThatBrazilianGuy OpenVPN can run on an OpenVZ guest. you have a paid server. you have root. the kernel should support tun/tap. apt-get install openvpn, do some config, and away you go.

and it easily fits within a 128 MB profile, too

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic I had the impression you said I could've used OpenVPN instead of renting a VM.

allquixotic

OpenVPN is just a program

you can use it instead of SSH tunneling

That Brazilian Guy

Yes, that's what confused me

6 mins ago, by allquixotic

why not openvpn though? :P

5 mins ago, by That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic because cheap (15USD / year)

5 mins ago, by allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy OpenVPN is free

> the kernel should support tun/tap

yes, it does:

> OpenVZ Settings

TUN/TAP Support - Enabled
PPTP Support - Enabled
IPGRE Support - Enabled
IPIP Support - Enabled
IPSEC Support - Enabled

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy you should be set then

Bob

@JourneymanGeek hehe, speaking from experience? :P

Journeyman Geek

14:34

Yes

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy Going with Debian 7 for "recentness" is like picking MIPS for its speed...

Journeyman Geek

I'm going with fedora 20 when I rebuild

Bob

@allquixotic The vast majority for mine didn't care. I think my CC payment triggered a fraud check with BuyVM, though... not sure why.

@DragonLord You can't do demanding tasks on most OVZ VPS services anyway.

THey normally set some ridiculously low CPU load limit in the ToS.

DragonLord

@Bob The reason it's so cheap is that they're using some very old hardware.

wiki.buyvm.net/doku.php/hardware

Never mind, it's in Las Vegas

Bob

@DragonLord That's not the reason.

DragonLord

14:45

They're also cramming lots of users onto the same node.

Bob

Newer hardware = more people on the same hardware & lower power requirements for the same performance.

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: I'd point out tho, all @ThatBrazilianGuy needs is a SSH server ;p

allquixotic

> L5639

yep, pretty ancient

DragonLord

> 2 x Hex Core L5638 2.00 Ghz CPU's

ark.intel.com/products/48766/…

Bob

@allquixotic That's my dedi :(

I could get a more powerful machine for cheaper, but that would require me to spend the time migrating... ugh.

DragonLord

14:46

12C/24T total at 2 GHz

Pretty slow for a server these days, especially for a cloud server.

Bob

I'll end up doing it at some point. It's just a pain.

allquixotic

@DragonLord and Nehalem era IIRC

DragonLord

It's Westmere-EP.

Bob

@DragonLord It's not a "cloud server" in any way, shape or form.

DragonLord

!!/wiki Gulftown

ChatBot John Cavil

14:47

Gulftown

Gulftown or Westmere-EP is the codename of a six-core hyperthreaded Intel processor able to run up to 12 threads in parallel. It is based on Westmere microarchitecture, the 32 nm shrink of Nehalem. Originally rumored to be called the Intel Core i9, it is sold as an Intel Core i7. The first release was the Core i7 980X in the first quarter of 2010, along with its server counterpart, the Xeon 3600 and the dual-socket Xeon 5600 (Westmere-EP) series using identical chips. First figures indicate that at equivalent clock rates, depending on the software, it has up to 50% higher performance than t...

allquixotic

right, which is a shrink of Nehalem

pre-Sandy is what I was getting at, since Sandy was a pretty huge jump

Nehalem itself was a huge jump from Core2, and Sandy was another big jump... haven't really had such a revolutionary change since then imho

Bob

"cloud" VPS services usually imply redundancy and automatic failover between nodes. Pretty sure BuyVM locks VPSes on specific nodes. Pretty sure OpenVZ doesn't even support failover.

DragonLord

SNB was a major advance

allquixotic

maybe Skylake will be the next Sandy

DragonLord

The last major advance was Haswell.

Bob

14:49

shrug I'm still happily using my i7-2600.

@DragonLord Haswell wasn't that major.

allquixotic

I don't think Haswell was all that big of a deal, though the i7 Devil's Canyon is quite beastly in single-thread perf

DragonLord

There were huge gains in power efficiency.

allquixotic

and Broadwell was also pretty minor

Broadwell is the redheaded stepchild :( It'll be obsolete by year's end

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

!! s/obsolete/replaced by something newer/

ChatBot John Cavil

14:50

@allquixotic Broadwell is the redheaded stepchild :( It'll be replaced by something newer by year's end (source)

Journeyman Geek

That tends to happen tho ;p

Bob

@ChatBotJohnCavil Broadwell barely exists.

The laptop I purchased a couple weeks ago is Haswell.

allquixotic

Ivy was king for a while, Haswell was king for a tic, and Devil's Canyon has been king for a while now

since Q2 2014... so, a full year of dominance for the 4790K

nothing beats it in single-threaded perf

Journeyman Geek

;p

DragonLord

I'm not holding my breath for Skylake.

Journeyman Geek

14:52

The last two boxen I got were bay trail ;p

(tho, KIIINDA tempted to start planning for a beefier home server)

allquixotic

I think Skylake will be the first gen that's actually economical and worthwhile to upgrade to from an Ivy Bridge i7

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Eh, most of that would probably be wasted? :P

allquixotic

probably likewise for Bob's Sandy i7

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: not really.

A core i3 and more storage would be nice

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek OK, now how do I log in? "Ajax console" doesn't work.

Journeyman Geek

14:53

@ThatBrazilianGuy: 0_0

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy ssh [email protected]

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: er... it should!

Bob

@allquixotic I dunno... it'd necessarily be a whole new computer.

Journeyman Geek

or that

allquixotic

@Bob yeah, and? :P

Bob

14:53

After the laptop purchase I don't really want to drop $1.5-2k on a new PC so soon.

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic neither that :(

Journeyman Geek

or there's a back door SSH option you can enable.

I'm sure the ajax console should work tho

is the VPS on?

allquixotic

my goal is to upgrade in phases; I'm going to hang on to my PSU if I'm not forced to upgrade it by incompatible connectors; then I'll keep my GPUs until I really need something beastlier; my "chipset upgrade" will be to Skylake with DDR4 and a new mobo, everything else (storage, etc) staying the same

Bob

My PSU's shit, my GPU's outdated... :P

allquixotic

so I will keep: case, RAID controller, PSU, disks, GPUs, accessories

Bob

14:54

And I have concerns about my storage. Two of the HDDs are going on four years, and the other two aren't exactly new.

allquixotic

I'll hand down or sell: mobo, CPU, RAM

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: I can ssh there

Bob

@allquixotic I'll almost definitely just replace the whole thing.

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: prolly monitor then GPU. Might go with a core i5 next iteration but who knows.

That Brazilian Guy

>root@<ip>'s password:
Permission denied, please try again.

allquixotic

14:55

@Bob I don't raise enough money in one big chunk to do that, except for income tax returns... and I probably don't need to do that

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: your password is wrong?

allquixotic

it's just so much easier for me if I can spend, say, $800 in a go, then wait 6 months, then spend another $800, etc

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Do I have to enable SSH somewhere?

Journeyman Geek

try resetting the password

naw, should work

Bob

That'd be, what... $150 mobo, $50 case, $100 PSU, $300-$400 CPU, $100-$200 RAM, $300-$400 GPU... just ballpark figures

Journeyman Geek

14:56

@allquixotic: heh, I just need to start putting aside a hundred dollars or so

Bob

Hm. Not too bad actually.

allquixotic

I'm hoping I can afford the next single-GPU king beast from AMD, whatever follows the R9-290X, and it better goddamn be <28nm

Journeyman Geek

And not make impulse purchases like my kindle ;p

Brady Trainor

so with the new UEFI laptops, I managed to unlock for USB booting I think, but maybe now it is a matter of formatting the USB differently, as far as partition table and disk format?

Journeyman Geek

(first big impulse purchase I've made in a decade and half)

@BradyTrainor: not really

Bob

14:58

@allquixotic My expenses are low enough that I probably could make the purchase, but I don't really need it and I'm pretty sure I'd regret it as soon as the next thing comes out in a week :P

Journeyman Geek

I'd try a fedora liveusb

allquixotic

@BradyTrainor you can boot it normally in "BIOS mode" using traditional partition layout and boot sector even with a UEFI laptop

Bob

@BradyTrainor Use one of the UEFI bootdisk creators.

Or format in GPT and create a UEFI boot partition.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: On one hand, Its the same for me. On the other, my mom tends to complain when I spend money on techie stuff ;p

Bob

@allquixotic Don't do that. At least with Windows, if you boot in BIOS mode it won't install in UEFI mode.

Actually, IIRC that applies to Linux too.

@JourneymanGeek That too.

Journeyman Geek

14:59

(tho.. this time... she was all "you arn't going to get anything for at least 6 months... right?" What's a kindle?")

@Bob: also, asian moms ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yep. I'm well aware :P

Brady Trainor

yeah, I think I tried GPT partition with FAT 32, or maybe FAT 16. I gave the USB to a friend hoping they would try it, but I think they haven't yet.

I had previously succeeded in reinstalling their Windows against the unlocked BIOS or whatever.

*UEFI or whatever.

Bob

>
If you boot the installation medium in ‘UEFI native’ mode, it will do a UEFI native install of the operating system: it will try to write an EFI-format bootloader to an EFI system partition, and attempt to add an entry to the UEFI boot manager ‘boot menu’ which loads that bootloader.
If you boot the installation medium in ‘BIOS compatibility’ mode, it will do a BIOS compatible install of the operating system: it will try to write an MBR-type bootloader to the magic MBR space on a disk.

This applies (with one minor caveat I’m going to paper over for now) to all OSes of which I’m aware. So…

allquixotic

@Bob unless you have a storage volume >4TB or are dual booting, it shouldn't matter if you install in UEFI mode or not

Bob

A must-read if you want to understand UEFI => happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/…

4

That Brazilian Guy

15:01

@JourneymanGeek Ok, apparently the ajax console isn't working because I am at work now and some port is blocked. (No idea why SSH doesn't work tho)

Bob

@allquixotic There are many other reasons to prefer UEFI boot.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

The biggest one is probably far more reliable dual-booting, true.

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy is port 22 blocked? The ajax console may also be using port 22

Brady Trainor

I figure UEFI is nice because it's the faster now, no?

Bob

15:02

@BradyTrainor Speed isn't the issue.

That Brazilian Guy

I tried the root password, the "serial console password" (whatever that is)

Bob

UEFI is more reliable, though.

BIOS/CSM/MBR booting has the nasty habit of relying on a rather poorly documented boot sector that gets clobbered pretty easily.

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic I'll have to remember a SSH server I have access... :|

Oh, got it

Brady Trainor

is there a good way to copy text from this UI? when I select and paste, there is a lot of extra whitespace and line breaks. Not too hard to deal with, but "not ideal".

Bob

Which UI?

Brady Trainor

15:04

This browser chat thing. Dang it, doesn't copy links nicely.

Oh, "full transcript" at top is an option.

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic Yeah, port 22 isn't blocked externally. I can use SSH on other hosts.

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy you can try codeanywhere.com

That Brazilian Guy

yay, I'm in!

allquixotic

from where ?

Brady Trainor

hmm, I emailed a PERSONAL.XSLB to someone, and it seemed to open and save automatically to the proper location. But macros in adjacent modules seem to not be accessible.

Psycogeek

15:08

UEFI is just there for Unrestricted Executive Federal Investigations , avoid :-)

allquixotic

@Psycogeek O_O

Brady Trainor

Trust settings suggest location is trusted.

allquixotic

*downgrades all his disks to 2 TB and reinstalls Windows in BIOS mode*

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic ssh console-[number]@[node-IP-different-from-the-provided-host-ip] (and using the "serial console password" (whatever that is, it's different from the root password)

I'm a bit confused about this. But I am in.

Brady Trainor

Hmm, oh well, will try troubleshooting by deleting my personal macro file and adding from an email, someday.

allquixotic

15:09

No you're not! *cuts the wire*

Bob

@allquixotic *bomb explodes*

Psycogeek

it was the blue wire

allquixotic

dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/…

> File Format: Hard-Drive

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

That Brazilian Guy

Now I can login using ssh root@[ip-they-provided] as well. Guess it was just some delay.

allquixotic

15:13

unless they'll be promptly mailing me an HDD as part of my download

Brady Trainor

@allquixotic,
> when googling, include the keywords msdn and word along with the object you're looking for
is working very nice, thank you.

That Brazilian Guy

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY I'M TUNNELLINNNNNGGGGG

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy whatismyip.com ?

That Brazilian Guy

!!taytaytay

ChatBot John Cavil

That Brazilian Guy

15:20

> Proxy: No Proxy Detected
City: fremont
State/Region: california
Country: us - us flag
ISP: frantech solutions

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the aerometric filler for the Pilot FP collapsed, again :S

@allquixotic Sneakernet! :P

That Brazilian Guy

I... I didn't even had to set up anything. Just useradd [non-root-user] and then ssh -N -D localhost:8888 user@IP.

That's almost reidiculously easy.

I guest I should disable pw-based root access (key only)

anything else I'm not considering?

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade just to be up-to-date

HackToHell

You have been trying to do this for a long time iirc

o0

That Brazilian Guy

@HackToHell Yeah, since 3 hours ago when I decided to rent the VM :P

Psycogeek

Ok yes protect it now, I finnaly got in, the backload script dropper is in place , so we are all ready on this end.

GFSE

15:32

http://gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com/post/118287119667
GemsFromStackExchange
Photo

1430926241

Psycogeek

Thank you for flying VmCloudLines, pick up your parachute as you exit through the backup hatch on the rear of the switcher.

That Brazilian Guy

Nice, the web panel stats update in real time!

They... they don't even count SSH tunnel usage as "bandwidth" O_o

That's... ~~interesting~~ excellent

HackToHell

15:54

@ThatBrazilianGuy They do ....

You aren't using enough yet for it to show up in Pony

Since when did they add real time dash o0

And inbound bandwith is free iirc

That Brazilian Guy

16:11

Setting up a new PC. It's so nice to have a local ubuntu mirror. 500MB download in 30sec.

I want to buy past me a chocolate bar for being so nice

HackToHell

You have a local ubuntu mirror

coool

:D

That Brazilian Guy

You all heard: clippy is gonna buy me a chocolate bar. I'll expense it to Stack Exchange, LLC.

@HackToHell Yeah, just for 14.04 LTS and just universe, multiverse and other stuff. About 200GB on a refurbished desktop. I started it when the local speed was 2MB for the entire building (oh, the painful memories)

@HackToHell Ok, let's download an ubuntu .iso then and see if it shows up!

1.1MB/sec, nice :D

Bob

16:43

uhm

ebay.com.au/itm/…

somehow I don't think that's an actual electron microscope

Heh. Isn't this your ISP, @JourneymanGeek? reddit.com/r/tech/comments/352a7y/…

or maybe not yet

Sep 23 '14 at 14:56, by Journeyman Geek

I need to switch over to myrepublic in a few years ;p

DragonLord

@Bob That's why I'm not a fan of this kind of filler.

Bob

@DragonLord fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/…

DragonLord

Why don't you get a Pilot CON-50 instead?

Bob

hari's advice worked that time... gonne dry it out again

DragonLord

That's what I use in my Prera.

Bob

16:52

@DragonLord Well, I wanted to see if it was a one-off event.

It's been five months since the last occurrence.

DragonLord

The CON-20 is a bit finicky to work with.

Bob

@DragonLord This isn't a CON-20. It's the cheapo converter that came with the pen.

shrug

@DragonLord It's also not easy getting my hands on one.

After postage is considered, the price is often at least double RRP.

I have a Lamy Safari I could use instead.

DragonLord

Oh, okay. So this is a "cleaning converter"?

Bob

@DragonLord shrug I don't know what it's called. Came with the pen.

I've heard of it being referred to as the CON-20. Obviously wrong.

@DragonLord I might end up turning this into an eyedropper if I can figure out how to secure the barrel properly.

It unscrews a bit too easily.

Also, => fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/…

Heh, they weren't kidding about the feed being easy to remove. Gave it a light tug and out it came.

DragonLord

On the Pelikan fountain pens I use, the nib and feed assembly screws out, which makes cleaning so easy

@Bob Why does your 78G seem so unreliable?

Bob

17:06

@DragonLord Hm?

The only reliability issue I've had is the converter.

DragonLord

I've heard of issues like explosions :P

Bob

The unscreweing isn't really an issue; it probably happens more because I keep it in my pocket.

DragonLord

Dec 1 '14 at 23:57, by Bob

@JourneymanGeek My Pilot 78G exploded :(

Bob

@DragonLord Oh, that was the first time the converter deflated. Ink went everywhere.

I discovered it in the middle of a meeting...

DragonLord

Like I said, get a CON-50.

Bob

17:08

Dec 2 '14 at 0:19, by Bob

I don't know how or why, but the bladder seems to be squashed :S

@DragonLord That would cost me as much as the pen itself did.

Not kidding.

Maybe if I ever order something from Goulet I can slip one in. $5.50, plus whatever postage and parcel forwarder would already be required. No, it's not easy getting this stuff to Aus.

If I were to buy one by itself? Looks like approx $16.

I think the pen cost $17.

Might as well turn the damn thing into an eyedropper before doing that.

Hennes

@Bob Sort of the same here. My i7-920 (Nehalem) is still fast enough. And when it gets slow I can OC it from 2.66GHz to 4.0GHz. (Tested up to 3.6GHZ without voltage increases)

Bob

It's not that much money, all things considered.

It's just annoying to spend that much on a little piece of plastic.

I can (and did) get 10+ standard international converters for another pen for, what, $1.50? They work without any issues whatsoever.

allquixotic

17:30

0

Q: Dell Latitude E6420: Dell Wireless 375 bluetooth constantly choppy

My configuration: Hardware Dell Latitude E6420 laptop Core i5 2520M with on-chip integrated graphics 8 GB DDR3 1 TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD Dell Wireless 375 Bluetooth Module (USB; VendorID 413C; ProductID 8187; REV 0517) Two different headsets: the Sennheiser Momentum On-ear Wireless Bluetooth 4....

HALP, the cat has a question

yilduz

Is that your carrot chopping issue?

allquixotic

I have two separate carrot chopping issues :P one for the laptop (severe), and one for the Note 4 smartphone (happens just as bad, but very very rare, only a couple times per hour, regardless of how busy the phone is)

that one's just about the laptop

GFSE

17:48

GemsFromStackExchange: That would solve one problem. Now what about the exciting new...

posted on May 06, 2015

That would solve one problem. Now what about the exciting new problems?

Brady Trainor

18:05

Hmm, so I'm using the solution from stackoverflow.com/questions/64436/… to define a Word VBA function to treat two cases.

sprunge.us/TSEi

nm, that won't even do what I'm really trying to do yet.

(Going to define a function that will act on current page, or optionally, call this function while looping over many pages.)

There, that's working, sprunge.us/Aiij. Is it a horrible way to do this?

Oliver Salzburg

18:22

@allquixotic That reminds me of a machine I had where certain screen contents had an effect on the audio output

I've also had mouse movement to audio interference years ago

IIRC moving from front to back audio jacks made a difference. And, in the end, I moved to a USB sound card

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg I tried moving USB ports where my keyboard is plugged in, but that didn't help

I need to find out how to increase the bluetooth buffer latency maybe

in my case, I figure that using a USB bluetooth dongle will probably make the problem worse, since anything I install is going to increase the USB bus contention, which seems to be the root of the problem

unless I get a "smarter" bluetooth module that knows how to increase the buffering

Hennes

19:12

Possible very ugly workaround: expresscard bluetooth?

And then not from the USB port on the expresscard slot but from the PCI-e part.

Though I am not sure how you would check that it indeed uses PCI-e.

Except if you used Pccard to external PCI-e and external PCI-e to BT. Which is technically possible but...

allquixotic

I have a less-ugly workaround that's sufficient for now

I dug up an Avantree Saturn Pro, which is a little battery-powered dongle that takes 3.5mm and transmits it over bluetooth 4.0; the BT chipset is completely invisible to the computer

it's about the size of a flattened egg yolk

seems to work great with my Sennheiser headset

completely removes the dell bluetooth from the picture

it's fine with a laptop because this laptop is relatively stationary anyway

but it's too unwieldy to carry around with my phone and keep it attached so I'm still annoyed by that problem

plus you suffer from a digital, to analog, to digital conversion

Hennes

19:31

My E6500 (a tad older) is also stationary. It is my movie station, attached to a beamer.

Surprisingly it still works, despite having an on-motherboard nvidia chip

Hennes

19:54

allquixotic

so the Avantree Saturn Pro would occasionally crap out with my Meelec Matrix2 AF62 cans, but they work perfectly with my Sennheiser Momentum Wireless On-ear pair. :) @Bob

so now all I have to do is carry around this odd egg-shaped device with a 3.5mm cable connected between it and my phone, and I have reliable bluetooth with no dropouts or oddities, at last..

maybe Android 6.0 and the Note 6 will finally fix bluetooth native to android

Now I can clear all the crap off my desk and just have my phone, one micro USB cable to charge whatever happens to be lowest on battery between my phone, BT cans and the Saturn Pro, and my beloved compact Motorola 6 W 2-port USB wall wart

and my BT cans on my face

gee; after about a year and a half of buying random shit and hoping it'll fix the problem, I'm finally back to where I was with my Meelec AF62 Matrix (1.0) and Android 4.2 on my Droid Razr Maxx HD, which never had any bluetooth problem

(except with a little bitty add-on dongle, because fuck whatever brain damage they did to the Android built-in bluedroid stack)

Hennes

BT never worked well for me.

Or devices used password such as 0000 or 1234.

Which means they should be tossed in the trash

Journeyman Geek

21:23

@Bob: its the ISP I want ;p

I'll probably switch to them if they get a phone licence.

Alejandra Moreno

21:50

good night

Michael Frank

G'night!

Journeyman Geek

Night

:( wallet's been sitting at the UPS depot in oregon all day. I think it'll only deliver today. Now for the paypal transfer.

For someone who will wait months or even years to buy something, I'm remarkably impatient about shipping.

Alejandra Moreno

what did you buy?

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek is that for your Kindle?

Journeyman Geek

@AlejandraMoreno thinkgeek.com/product/1d95 and a kindle + cover

@MichaelFrank: kindle's reached the transhipper. The wallet has not.

Alejandra Moreno

22:06

@JourneymanGeek i have this one ebay.com/itm/… xD

Michael Frank

Ahh thinkgeek. I used to dream about buying pretty much everything they sell...

Journeyman Geek

@AlejandraMoreno nice

@MichaelFrank: I'm a fan of the show. Wanted that for ages. Bought it about 5 minutes after I got an email that it was back in stock. Annoyingly it dosen't ship to singapore. (and shipping on its own would be more than the wallet. Lucky I'd bought the kindle, and ... yeah ;p)

@MichaelFrank: May pick up a few tshirts in future. Just no rush right now ;p

Michael Frank

22:22

@JourneymanGeek I get most of my tshirts from TeeFury.

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank: I'm probably picking up crew swag from work

At some point a big chunk of my wardrobe is going to be crew T shirts ;p

Waiting on my Age of ultron stuff ;p

(almost used the codename ._.)

and at the moment I know the codename/real name of every movie we make by heart.

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek use the codename for a movie not announced yet! ;D

Journeyman Geek

lol

By the time we get movies, they're announced.

Even the super seekrit ones.

The bulk of our work's after filming starts anyway

That Brazilian Guy

23:03

Is there anyone currently in this channel awake besides me?

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy Nope.

That Brazilian Guy

Damn, @MichaelFrank's computer got hacked.

Journeyman Geek

woof.

That Brazilian Guy

Hey @JourneymanGeek say I have mydomain.com and want tunnel.mydomain.com to point to another IP (the VM I just rented), do I have to login to mydomain.com host panel and edit the DNS zone?

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: yes. Set an A record

That Brazilian Guy

23:16

okie dokie!

Journeyman Geek

I use lupinenet.co.uk for 'local' boxen so I have AAAA records pointing at individual boxen at home ;p

That Brazilian Guy

23:48

@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure I understand :/

Journeyman Geek

lol

AAAA records are A records for ipv6

and generally you set A records pointing at IPs and cname records pointing at other domain names.

That Brazilian Guy

ahh

@JourneymanGeek done, now I have my own tunnel ;p

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy: since you have it, I'd consider setting up lighttpd or some other simple static webserver so you can stick things there lo

Wouldn't go for a fuller stack, but I've found being able to do that useful for quick file transfers

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