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00:14
Dija Ever ? Start answering a question, and the preson is like "I am not doing that" , and your like, "well your the one with the Problem, mine works fine"
Dija Ever "i am using this insane method that has now failed, can you help me fix it" and your like "why are you using that insane method" to get "whats wrong with my method?" Which the reply still is "well mine works" :-)
What part of "your the one with the problem and the question" are you not understanding :-)
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@DragonLord Not really. It's perfectly possible, easy really, to be a great programmer while never learning nor using Java.
And you can create Android apps without touching Java.
Xamarin
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00:37
@allquixotic Or web languages + one of the many wrappers.
00:48
@Psycogeek doesn't have an answer :(
@HackToHell i thought you could post one? your method (w/ pictures) was fast and did the job ?
@Psycogeek I could, I'll do it later. Have an exam in an hour and half
no editing required either? just use a better "display" program for what your attempting?
And a bus in half
 
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01:55
thought this was interesting superuser.com/questions/910057/illegitimate-screenshots , but I do not know what they are all saying? Checked to see if it was scam location, and thought Hmm, why not httpS for bank stuff ? switched to https and got
Like i said, i have no idea what the Q is saying.
02:07
my usual method would be to go into said site , without stupidly following some link. I did that , and the cert is still showing like that once switched to https. so i guess it does not mean it was anything.
 
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04:49
"You might consider embracing to understand rather than discounting to ignore the new features/interface. It's people with this mindset that hold the masses back. You want your old/comfortable cheese to the point that you won't allow yourself to discover the potential of a new cheese."
Umm your eating limburger, dipped in horseradish sauce rolled in rye bread , and fried, and telling me my cheese is bad :-)
I wanted a set of HatPhones this week, see they already invented them amazon.com/Nike-Womens-Billed-Knit-Hatphones/dp/B002CIJNOM/…
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05:18
@JourneymanGeek ... how much did you buy the Kindle for?
cause Amazon currently has a sale on them
....
119 :(
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...bad timing :S
Oh well.
The kindle's reached CGW... so its just a matter of the wallet. I'm HOPING I can get it shipped out friday or mon ;p
05:40
Also that my PayPal transfer went through. I don't trust cgw with my card info :p
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o.O
todayonline.com/singapore/four-banks-hit-credit-card-fraud <--- got hit by this. Apparently quite a lot of the victims were CGW customers.
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o.O
05:59
In this case if I use paypal, the most I need to worry about is whatever money's in there (and its not transferred automatically anyway)
The tradeoff is a 3-4 day period it takes for a transfer to go through
it does not explain well how that happend? other than some taiwan merchant is processing transactions?
Nope. ;p
It does not
There's no official confirmation of this
06:21
That was a truely wierd conversation. Boss walks in and goes "I know you won't know the answer but... do you know anywhere I can buy a cupcake?"
06:34
06:53
Nope, I have added "l" to the image name, thus using a pre-made scaled image. imgur trick I learned here a while ago. :) — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago
Since we talked a lot about keyboards yesterday...
How is that representative of coding? :\
Apple wireless, ISO keyboard.
That is such a frustrating piece of shit
imac? Really? ;p
The keyboard
There's a keyboard there?
3
"When you're done with it, can I give it to my little girl?"
07:02
I can't wait to get my document scanner!
Although, I noticed something horrible today
Apparently, there's an even more luxurious model, with built-in keyboard and touchscreen :\
That's not a scanner anymore ;p
Prices vary widely: amazon.com/s/…
07:05
HP typewriter with copy option?
200-3000 USD
@Psycogeek No, it's just a typewriter. The top part is to hold your sandwich in place, so you can eat while you work
3
better get an upgrade, needs a cupholder.
It's 9:10! Where is everybody?!
I'm here, hard at work and everyone else is still in bed?
SU was down for an hour, during that time 3 people discovered they had a life.
@Psycogeek I was actually talking about our office ;D
07:11
They heard you were getting a clickey keyboard?
I'm at work. Its quiet cause everyone is too busy to complain.
@Psycogeek :D
I bet they know that we will be moving desks today
We need to make room for another employee
@OliverSalzburg That's no scanner, that's a space station!
@TimPost You can take pictures with the auxiliary spy satellite
(not included in picture)
07:28
Meh, a satellite? For that price, I want a nearly-complete death star.
then you will need the duplexing option
and for the low low price of one... million... dollars, we'll throw in a thermal vent cover, absolutely free!
Bob
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dunno, the way you said million dollars just reminded me of that :P
@JourneymanGeek depends, good cupcake or generic cupcake? :P
good => cake shop, maybe bakery. generic => supermarket, maybe bakery
@Bob: just a cupcake.
Yeah, he found a starbucks. He has this tradition of handing production a cupcake and some knives and making them fight to the death telling them "This is the farm, you need to decide how much each show gets" ;p
07:56
"There are 381 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area. 1 errors occured during data transfer. This may indicate problem of the device or with data/power cables. It is recommended to examine and replace the cables if possible. Problems occurred between the communication of the disk and the host 28865 times." I'm guessing this is bad? — Alejandra Moreno 3 hours ago
> I'm guessing this is bad?
lol
"On a scale of one to ten? 11"
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@DragonLord Wasn't @AlejandraMoreno in this chat?
(apparently yes, since the autocomplete worked)
Yeah, she is sometimes.
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Also, stuttering in GO has any number of causes... it's not a particularly efficient game :\
I'd expect HDD failure to cause crashes rather than stuttering
Depends. I don't know about games, but sometimes systems get slowed down by hdd issues too. If its small, correctable errors.
08:46
Are you guys aware of this really annoying behavior when the task bar does not recognize when the mouse leaves it?
It's driving me insane
Maybe? Windows?
Driving?
I have to reboot to get rid of this
But I should use this reboot to install Windows updates...
But first I have to approve them in our WSUS
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norepro
Jesus! Even preparing for a reboot is a huge task :P
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but I use small icons with expanded names on the bottom edge
08:49
;p. I'm on a gnome box :/
@Bob Happens occasionally. But if you're computering 18hrs a day, chances are high it'll happen sooner or later :P
hey @bob, im pretty sure now it's the HDD, the software gives me like 30 days until totally failure :D
@AlejandraMoreno: great time to do a backup!
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@AlejandraMoreno rule of relocated sectors: you have approximately negative 10 days before data loss
it's a clean install, coz i was on windows 10
At first i thought was some kind of weird bug
after all it's a bet OS.
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08:50
once a HDD starts relocating sectors, there's a decent chance you've already lost something and future loss is entirely unpredictable (can happen at any time; whole drive could crash in the next 10 secs)
@Bob That gets rid of the tooltip, but the buttons still stay highlighted :\
software says i have like 400 sectors lost lol
@OliverSalzburg is what your really asking "taskbar does not autohide" ? That problem has existed in win7 even, and had a specific cause.
@Psycogeek No
But I know that auto-hide is broken as fuck
That is windows 7 right?
08:51
@JourneymanGeek 8.1
@AlejandraMoreno: my dad had a drive with about 30, and most systems refuse to boot with it inside.
the autohide problem had to do with notifications, so some 3rd party dude made a program called taskbarslapper :-) all it does it bounce the notifications.
seems that windows always boot, no matter the health of the HDD
lol. no. In this case the bios goes "it failed a smart test" and refuses to boot.
that's what i dont understand, my hdd it's a mess but S.M.A.R.T pass
08:56
You might not have run a proper test.
@AlejandraMoreno then check the cables. Which means to toss out the crappy china ones, and find good china ones that work right. and possibly also the power the HD is using.
@AlejandraMoreno: There are four types of tests you can run to diagnose the actual state of your hard drive.
- S.M.A.R.T test that does the most generic checks.
- Short DST that does a drive self-test, it does a bit more test than just the generic ones.
- Short read test which reads a sector here and there for a quick diagnosis if it is very broken.
- Long read test which reads every sector to be sure if all the sectors that are left can still be used.
(There's also a write test sometimes, but that wipes out your data, so I wouldn't recommend that test)
yeah i did the short ones, S.M.A.R.T pass
but overall all the softwares says the hdd it's a mess a need to backup the data A.S.AP
Relocation indeed implies a small bit of data loss, only if those relocations happened in actual files you use instead of files that are temporary (which a lot of files are) and or covered by some checksum.
@AlejandraMoreno Yeah, regardless whether it is still usable that sounds like a top priority.
Just saying ...
... a few relocated sectors aren't a bad thing.
one of those software give me, 31 days remaining until failure, i know it's estimated but it's kinda scary and funny.
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09:03
@TomWijsman: Maybe. If its non critical data (like the DOID) its fine. If its a boot drive with personal files...
You lost some data but it took new reserved sectors to fill in those gaps, so the drive is still usable, iff the long test passes.
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, it can be an indicator of lifetime, but you never know.
it's the primary HDD, with the OS
Yeah, but you'll need to wipe it when the final release comes out anyway ;p
09:04
the main issue was when the hdd was reading or writing a lot of data, sttuter appears.
maybe it's time for a nice SSD
@JourneymanGeek: What I mean is, a drive with a small bit of relocated sectors can be usable for a few more years. It can be an unnecessary cost to throw them away every time you spot a relocated sector.
Under the assumption of the HDD owner having a backup of the data...
@TomWijsman: I didn't say that tho. In her shoes, I'd back up, then use the drive for stuff like downloads, or even swap
@AlejandraMoreno Oh, stutter sounds bad.
Means it tries hard to read some sectors; it'll eventually read them, but it takes time to do so.
Any more time / attempts and it'll reach a limit after which it can't read them anymore.
(Which is why the software urges you to backup)
@TomWijsman: I was using my old laptop drive that way ;p
can i still use this hdd?
09:09
@AlejandraMoreno If a long test passes and it is not too much stutter, it should be usable for a little longer. Just don't store important data that you don't have a copy of on it.
@JourneymanGeek I'm the crazy guy who used his laptop without a backup for years.
Made a backup like a week ago; guess it's at the right time, because I expect it to eventually fail some months from now...
@TomWijsman: I have two backups of everything but my linux box ;p
meh, not too bad
The HDD from my previous laptop is in an external kit somewhere around here, it's a bit more bad than this, guessing I migrated from that one right on time.
hm. Actually, I probably should backup my netbook too. But its the very definition of expendable.
09:15
My current backup solution backups to a FTP server on the network.
I use smb shares and veem endpoint backup
It only copies files with the archive bit set, it removes files from destination that are gone from the source.
(so a week or two of incrementals to solve oopsies and its otherwise fire and forget)
So, iotw, it creates a mirror and sends the least data over when backing up.
Which means I can run the program when I feel unsafe in the background, pause it any time, run it again the next day to continue.
Happy that that works, allows me to keep a backup.
Is that for gaming or for really special typing
The first iteration of the backup took >24h tho... :D
'cause the FTP server is a RPi... :D
I think its for one handed typing, Also missing keys
09:17
I just bought another G602, for work. The vertical mouses are not working out at all. It's just fucking weird
@OliverSalzburg I have a keyboard that has something like this at the left side of it.
@TomWijsman: my old backup server was a rpi. Swapped it for a NUC-type box
@OliverSalzburg: tht make slightly less sense.
09:18
What amazes me, the one I posted earlier, is like 10€. The second one I just posted is 20€
@OliverSalzburg Well, not as many keys, but it's the idea.
@TomWijsman Ah, so it's for gaming, right?
@OliverSalzburg Yeah, ASUS ROG.
WASDat your first clue?
Though I don't use it at the moment, need to try it again some time.
When I tried to use it some years ago, I don't really like the key response.
09:20
@Psycogeek The missing other half of the keyboard was ;D
Feels clunky.
Well, I will now settle on the Ergonomic 4000 + G602 for a while
I'm using the bluetooth Microsoft Wedge keyboard I won from Super User for gaming. :-$
Google Now has caught on to my mechanical keyboard searches from yesterday and is now teasing me constantly :P
Before this I used the laptop keyboard; but my laptop is so old (like the hard drive) that two keys broke.
And yes, those keys are part of WASD... :P
09:21
Heheh
Other features my old laptop has:
- The GPU is attached with 3 screws instead of 4, 'cause I turned one so hard it broke.
A serial port? ;p
- There's no battery any more, 'cus they tend to bulge and blow up.
- The GPU is actually downclocked to work stable, on default clocks it can freeze randomly.
Stuff like that... :D
thats not cool , , , it freezing.
So, the only reason its running is sheer stubborness?
09:24
@JourneymanGeek Trying hard to get close to that; PCMIA slot, antenna, but they are still used nowadays I guess.
Wow, for my latest purchase from Amazon, I received a coupon!
...for premium beauty products
I'm willing to let it go if anyone is interested ;)
I keep getting amazon local emails..for laser toe fungus treatment.
@JourneymanGeek The longer I can use it, the better I get from the money I spend on the next one.
@OliverSalzburg: amazon is convinced that I read cheesy romance novels ;p
The problems don't bother me, they're indicators of its older age, but it still works... :D
09:26
@TomWijsman: My current main laptops are 4 years old (and going strong), and something that costs me less than a dollar a day over a year.
@JourneymanGeek This one is 6 years I think.
i7 processor from 2009
My old one's a core i5. My newer, crappier one in most respects is a celeron-atom
Downclocking GPU is something I must remember for the future.
Really does its job for stability and u don't lose too much performance from it.
You can probably remember me trying to diagnose GPU issues in chat here a long while ago.
Those were on this laptop, the downclocking made them go... :D
;p
My laptops are all intel GPUs
09:29
Mine NVIDIA, always unlucky with it though.
@AlejandraMoreno: that's AMD. Just whatever's onboard
Previous one had bad underfill material, this one needs a downclock to work, wondering what the next one will bring...
I've generally had good luck with nvidia desktop cards.
09:30
Laptop cooling isn't or wasn't so spectacular as desktop cooling for a long while.
(and hehehe. I used to joke about buying a razer blade when I got a job...)
When I still had a PC so many years ago; I first had ATI, but that eventually broke so it got replaced by NVIDIA. That worked fine for so long.
Which is why I choose NVIDIA in laptops. But that has bitten me twice now... :-/
never had a ati/amd, i don't know if they are good enough.
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I don't game on laptops ;p
Whatever I buy next, I know to stay away from the dual card solutions.
Used a demo laptop for half a week, some kind of Intel/ATI combination.
09:32
game on laptops are mostly a pain...
Intel for energy and ATI for gaming, that really didn't work well for me...
@AlejandraMoreno yeah
@AlejandraMoreno On laptops from years ago, yes; it's not much of a problem nowadays I think.
@TomWijsman: and screens, and proper keyboards and mice and...
but laptops are limited to be upgraded
09:34
@JourneymanGeek ASUS ROG gaming mouse
@AlejandraMoreno For that reason I buy barebone laptops.
how much can you cost to remplace a grafic card?
I don't if you can
but sure cost a lot
I just open it up and replace it, those cards are MXM 2.0b and are a reasonable price.
The problem is rather that that was 6 years ago.
And now I can't replace it anymore... :P
So yeah, a desktop is better for that purpose, definitely.
Barebone laptops will never get the attention they deserve I think...
Maybe projectara.com will have a bit more luck, it is the same type of problem.
ha, two years ago the future were the pads, nowday no one remembers them.
Yeah. Tho... Phones got bigger ;p
yeah i guess still pads to be sold, lets renamed it like Galaxy10
lol
09:40
LaptopBlocks
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@DragonLord You reminded me of NetBeans & C++. So I tried it. It is not a happy experience.
(and heh. My latest tech purchase is... a single purpose device ;p)
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Back to Code::Blocks it is.
@Bob: WxWidgets?
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@TomWijsman No. Lots of pain with how NetBeans uses Makefiles (and therefore requires a make, and doesn't work with the MinGW one), and requires a full POSIX toolchain (rm, etc.).
Worse, it expects those in your PATH.
I detest adding crap to my PATH for any reason, let alone satisfying a single program.
09:45
@Bob: And Visual Studio community edition?
heh. I have a folder for adding random crap like that ;p
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@TomWijsman I use it for most other things, but right now I'm working on projects that must be compatible with GCC.
Visual C++ is not 100% compatible.
@JourneymanGeek Kinda the same here, Sysinternals Suite.
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@JourneymanGeek I'm alright-ish with adding some things I might want to call manually (the only acceptable time, really). Not when I need to add them to support some program that should be able to take its own paths.
@TomWijsman: started with various nixy tools - GOW does that for you ;p
09:47
@JourneymanGeek Do I interpret that right as GNU on Windows? Or is it more like Chocolatey?
Its a collection of linuxy utilities for windows
@Bob If you prefer the VS experience, Makefile projects might help.
But yeah, I remember working on a project and the members liked Code::Blocks.
They started using it for WxWidges though; so, I'm not too sure about how its user experience compares to VS.
@JourneymanGeek Ah, I cheat and use Git Bash. :D
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@TomWijsman Nono, they're nowhere near complicated enough to actually require a Makefile. But the GCC compatibility is important.
@TomWijsman its more for stuff like grep and cut for me.
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@JourneymanGeek Wrong person.
09:52
@Bob Yes, but a Makefile project can allow you run the MinGW GCC from VS.
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@TomWijsman Ah... probably a tad too much trouble at this point. I might have to look into it later.
There are even paid solutions that fully integrate (including gdb, ...) into VS; so, I imagine a free solution doing at least something.
Oh...
This is neat.
(Credit where credit is due, reshare from reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/34y1rn/…)
Policy: Force selection of account before sending
Category Path: User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Microsoft Outlook 2010\Outlook Options\Mail\Compose Messages\
Think I'll be using this more, ton of hidden stuff that's now easily reachable with a simple search.
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@TomWijsman Heh, I've always just downloaded the full Excel spreadsheets.
10:15
@OliverSalzburg: amazon is sending me emails about document scanners now.
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10:28
XD
@JourneymanGeek It's doing the same for me. I blame you, @OliverSalzburg! :P
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naw, If it recommended kindles... ;p
Its @OliverSalzburg who was talking about document scanners.
10:39
@Bob: Best part is? THEY WOULDN'T EVEN SHIP IT HERE ;p
10:56
Tracking cookies are like Santa Claws , they know who you been sleeping with, they know when your awake, they know if you view bad or porn , so be good for tracking sake.
Tracking must die, it is an anonymous invasion of privacy, and no that is not an oxymoron.
11:26
arugh php + psql + line returns in the select statement
I'm not sure how to accomlish the line returns infact.
@OliverSalzburg YES. I fixed it by (1) disabling Lenovo's HScrollFun.exe and (2) if it ever crops up again, kill and restart explorer.exe
@allquixotic Oh, it'll crop up again :P
I'll give that a try next time. I don't have that Lenovo utility, but I'll try restarting Explorer for sure
Rage! O___o
Luckily, I moved all our mission critical shit on-premise last weekend
But, of course, today I'm working on OSS :\
11:48
Git hub
Sorry, we're down for maintenance
We'll be back up shortly
Which Really means we will only shortly be up.
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Q: Web camera to monitor home construction

Mariawe are building house in north California and we live in Florida. . We have electricity and would like to install a web based camera to monitor construction. What camera do you recommend? What do I need to set up. Thanks Maria

I recommend moving to california , if you expect to see what is going on.
fuuuuu
how-old.net thinks I'm 36
so I look 7 years older than I am
that's surprisingly accurate
people always say I look older
In cat years?
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12:03
> Couldn’t detect any faces.
:(
Discrimination!
(Also - EasyImgur's upload is really slow - my half-baked attempt is several times faster...)
Ah, but does the half baked attempt work when bobby';drop tabled; uploads his picture ?
Humm, we were just discussing the idea of using foot pedals for additional input for programming tasks and such
The options are endless
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@Hennes Uh, yes? :P
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It's still uploading to Imgur, just a different client.
And I'm also using an established REST client library, soooo... no need to worry about any escaping myself.
12:07
another brilliant robot
12:25
@Bob speciesist.
13:03
superuser.com/questions/909870/… why they give him the freaking point, when i wrote the whole book on it , and he just waltzes in and repeats what i said.
where was he when the whole thing started , and i had to pry out more info.
13:21
http://gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com/post/118279968286
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13:33
Hey @JourneymanGeek or @allquixotic I'm strongly considering renting a VM / VPS today on buyvm (USD15/yr) but I need to helpvampire you both a lot some help understanding the technical aspects of the signup form
@ThatBrazilianGuy: what's technical about it?
I'm opening the page so I can remember ;p
I rememeber it being quite simple
ahh. Most of those things you can change later
(Damn, how do I capture the screen on xubuntu?) :/
13:37
@JourneymanGeek Yes, but also
> Pick Your Plan

- OpenVZ
- KVM / Windows / Storage

- LV / NJ / LU
oh, openvz and lv
I suppose the TLAs are state names?
openvz is the cheap one. LV is las vegas. That bit dosen't really matter.
> openvz is the cheap one
Well, then that's it ;p
And Las Vegas is a bit closer than Luxembourg ;p
@JourneymanGeek Can I change the OS later?
13:41
Also I don't have a domain readily available right now. Can I use the IP in the meantime?
:)
What's "Voxility Filtering"?
No idea? ;p
Oh, don't go for any options.
Google says it's some sorte of "anti-ddos cloud tunnel" thing
Oh, and if you can, set up key based auth and change the SSH port
13:45
> # You must enter a hostname for your server # You must enter a prefix for both nameservers #
:(
er.. just make something up? ;p
I'm pretty sure at least one of my servers didn't have a hostname.
> - All client information must be accurate (name, current address, etc).
- Do not open multiple accounts. No exceptions.
- **Do not place orders from proxies or VPN's.**
- No spam, DDOS, or any other malicious activities.
So, do not hire us while on work? ;p
Hm.... CentOS 6.4 or Debian 7?
Going with Debian 7 as (I think) it is more recent
@ThatBrazilianGuy I think it means don't go through an anonymizing tunnel like Tor
Yep, hence the smiley
Debian 7.0 was released May 4, 2013. Two years ago. Jessie would be much preferred, or CentOS 7, but oh well
you only need to use KVM if you need a non-Linux OS, or one that's either so old or so new that it can't use the OpenVZ 2.6.32 kernel
maybe that's why they don't support CentOS 7 or Debian Jessie -- both use systemd, and that can't work with the 2.6.32 kernel
especially not in a container like that
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