Root Access

Ryan

00:26

Anyone know how to start over on Vagrant? I'm following a tutorial to get it online, ran into an issue, did Vagrant Destroy and deleted the folder I did it in. Made a new folder, ran vagrant init precise32 http://files.vagrantup.com/precise32.box then changed the port, but now when I do vagrant up it says that port is still in use

Psycogeek

@Ryan disable the network connecting adapter thing temporarily? this would wipe out all previous connections and port usage through them? then re-enable?

Ryan

@Psycogeek I'm a real beginner at this and don't know what the means

I'm trying to figure this stackoverflow.com/questions/10953070/… out but bit over my head so far. Still trying though

Psycogeek

@Ryan oh well i dont know what vagrant means either :-) so blind leading the blind. Vagrant is some sort of cloud based psudo folder thing for file sharing stuff?

Ryan

Vagrant is a virtual development environment

vagrantup.com if you're interested

Psycogeek

@Ryan Oh, OMG code RUN! , i know nothing.

Ryan

00:41

its okay, I found the answer on StackOverflow and got it resolved

Take care @Psycogeek

Michael Frank

01:08

Gonna pick up a Playstation TV after work today! :D

Journeyman Geek

01:28

@ThatBrazilianGuy: ping!

DragonLord

02:18

Updating the answer to this question is nuts:

37

Q: What apertures are required to enable autofocus, including cross-type or high-precision focusing, on Canon DSLR cameras?

This is a follow-up to Why does Canon and Nikon limit or disable autofocus beyond certain f-numbers? I'm doing this to separate the AF aperture requirements from the linked question above. My goal here is to create a canonical answer for Canon AF aperture limits, with complete information for e...

EOS 7D Mark II has seven lens groups; see gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/5/0300016615/01/eos7d-mk2-im-en.pdf pages 100-107

Michael Frank

@DragonLord wow, that's definitely tl;dr :P

Good answer though.

DragonLord

02:37

@MichaelFrank Answer updated for the EOS 7D Mark II. Images to be added soon.

I'm worried a future update could cause me to hit the 30,000-character limit for answers...

DragonLord

03:02

photo.stackexchange.com/posts/16400/revisions – more than 60 revisions over more than three years

Quite simply my magnum opus here on Stack Exchange

Psycogeek

""Please consider disabling your Adblock addon for SomeSite.com"" Yea, please concider that you wouldnt have been blocked to begin with, if your ads didnt pop-up or flash like a defective robot, or didnt turn words into little add blocks for stuff unrelated, or . . .. well you just got what you deserved, concider that.

Psycogeek

03:35

"Well we are not actually in control of the ad content on our site, so that isnt our fault" naw your just in control of the stuff you actually Like on your site , the rest of it you feed to the pigs

Nathan Osman

04:20

Who should I be bugging to get gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com updated?

Journeyman Geek

I think @Sathya runs it

Nathan Osman

@Sathya ---^

Sathya

05:26

@NathanOsman queued /cc @jour

Nathan Osman

Thanks.

Sathya

Bob

07:53

o.O

amazon.com/dp/B005QW1UME

@JourneymanGeek ^

Not clicky though :P

Cheapest mech keyboard I've ever seen.

50 USD.

And it's not a TKL.

Oh look, Surface 2 for $299. About half price. That's the RT one.

@allquixotic did they ever make a 3rd RT?

Journeyman Geek

08:16

roswills are generic in a good way

Bob

oooh wireless1.com.au/…

So very tempted _--

I need @allquixotic to !!no me

Journeyman Geek

!!no

there you go ;p

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

lol

Dave

Morning

I just bought a roll up keyboard (as we're talking about keyboards) :)

Journeyman Geek

08:20

for a carry-around keyboard?

Dave

yup. If I have to go on site, and play with machines which are set up for only RDP or similar...

We have a lot of old PC's (HP) and any hardware change requires us to hit F1 to confirm the changes

and, I wanted to know what it was like to have a folding keyboard!!!

Journeyman Geek

yeah, those are great for that

Dave

:)

I'm also desperate to buy a tablet with Win8 (or Win10) so I can use Visual Studio but, the cost :(

hang... does winRT allow RDP?

let me Google

I assume not

Journeyman Geek

It would/should

eh, there's cheap windows 8 tablets

just under 100USD even

Bob

@Dave It does.

MS's RDClient on Android is also great.

Dave

08:23

yes, but those have 64gb RAM, and after OS and Visual Studio, not much room...

hmmmmm

in that case, I can just RDP in to my PC and work from the other room!!!!!!

I really wish I had thought of this earlioer. Everyone here is a genius

although is it worth a 100, when in 6 - 10 months or so (?) Win10 is out....

Journeyman Geek

lol

Good question.

You'd probably find the same thing happening with windows X, and more hardware options by then

Dave

did any one play with Win10 ?

The preview/beta thing?

Journeyman Geek

I have it on a VM

Dave

Any thoughts?

Journeyman Geek

Not seriously played with it yet

Its nice

Dave

08:26

Images seem to suggest it's a cross between W7 and win8 (for the main GUI)

Journeyman Geek

Its a very solid set of incremental updates and one awesome regression

Dave

:)

I normally upgrade every 2... so win2000, miss ME, winXP, miss vista, win7, miss win8 meaning I'll need, NEED, to get Win10 (is it win10 or winX)?

Bob

08:42

@JourneymanGeek Regression?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Back to a start menu XD

I think I've run all of those, except vista

Though, I got the 2k box after I got XP

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You still have the option for a start screen.

Journeyman Geek

and you forgot 95/98/98SE

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I went... 95, 98SE, XP, Vista, 7, 8

Hm. Might've used 2k for a bit; I can't remember

Dave

I didn't forget about those... But at that age, I didn't know what an OS was :)

Journeyman Geek

09:02

and joy

I need to dig up, and self answer one of my questions

Dave

what question?

Psycogeek

Dang dog digging up the yard again looking for one of his old bones

Dave

I hate gardening work :(

Journeyman Geek

09:28

4

Q: Standalone CM 11 style lockscreen

I'm a big fan of the CyanogenMod11 / Trebuchet lockscreen - It lets you add shortcuts to the unlocking ring so you can touch and swipe in that direction to directly launch an app. However switching all of my devices to CM is not an option - I like the nearly stock android 4.4 on my moto G, and th...

gratis android lockscreen

HackToHell

09:54

This is awesome googleresearch.blogspot.in/2014/11/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek WidgetLocker looks like it might do what you want.

Not free though.

play.google.com/store/apps/…

See the last screenshot.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: When I was asking the question, free was important ;p

Bob

(I use Nova Launcher, by the same company)

Journeyman Geek

(I can buy apps now)

Psycogeek

10:05

@HackToHell And next Automated Judges :-)

HackToHell

@Psycogeek It could take a decade or two for that :D

Psycogeek

10:39

they can start them off marrying people

Then eventually move over to Photo Red Light camera picture assessment

Then Judge Dred :-)

Dave

12:20

Can some one give me my opinions please :) I have XP machine but there is security risk with it etc etc. SO, I could move to a Linux machine and run a VM. However, if I run a VM with XP, does that security risk still apply?

and is there an easier version of linux to use? Easier in regards to installing it

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, but you have better control.

I suggest fedora and KVM for a VM host

Hennes

Why do you need to XP host anyway?

if it is just for an old game you could make sure it has no network access.

Dave

12:41

I don't need XP. I just need to run a Windows EXE

but I have the XP license

Hennes

WINE?

Dave

12:58

Not for me

I'm more of a beer drinker

or is wine a platform @Hennes?

Hennes

https://www.winehq.org/

It allows you to run windows applications without installing windows.

Dave

Is this an application or the OS? I can't see that

ah, found it

That Brazilian Guy

Dave

erm... right... eh.... hang on

I feel violated and is this from the film space oddessy 2001 or similar? I've nver seen it but I think this is the onboard computer?

Called Lars?

Hennes

HAL.

Dave

13:06

HAL...

d'oh

Hennes

I-- B-- M--

Dave

I did know that

that's not how you spell HAL

:)

Bob

@Dave Yes, it does.

Dave

yes what does? I'm now lost with all of this:( @Bob

Bob

49 mins ago, by Dave

Can some one give me my opinions please :) I have XP machine but there is security risk with it etc etc. SO, I could move to a Linux machine and run a VM. However, if I run a VM with XP, does that security risk still apply?

Dave

13:10

Ah, than you :)

Bob

If it were a short-lived VM, it'd be less of an issue.

A VM also allows you to exert external control over networking without another piece of hardware.

Dave

This stuff hurts my head if I'm honest

Bob

But it's not inherently more secure than running the OS raw.

Dave

and that red light bulb in the picture is freaky

Understood, tahnk you for the advice @Bob

That Brazilian Guy

@Dave you can follow the little grey arrows ;p

Dave

13:24

I've been looking for them for a few minutes now ... What grey arrows @ThatBrazilianGuy??

That Brazilian Guy

Bob

@allquixotic fool.com/investing/general/2014/06/05/…

Dave

ah I see

Hello @ThatBrazilianGuy

That Brazilian Guy

Hello Dave ;p

Dave

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

tee hee

I hate this project I'm working on! :(

That Brazilian Guy

13:33

When @Dave runs sudo with a wrong password, I wonder if the error message is "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that".

@Dave At least you don't have to manually install a piece of software on 100+ PCs. =/

Dave

hmmmmm. the problem is, I can't get this piece of softwre to build at all!!! So if anything, we'd both have some free time and could go to the pub ha ha @ThatBrazilianGuy

That Brazilian Guy

@Dave It's a bit hard to find pubs around here, we'd have to go to a bar instead :P

Dave

I'm going to ask - is there a difference?

I mean, is the difference just the layout?

I assume it's not just the UK which hs real ale in that typically slightly warm and flat and far too fruity flavour :)

@ThatBrazilianGuy ?

Journeyman Geek

14:01

I was under the impression pubs did food too ;p

@ThatBrazilianGuy: Might be worth learning how to do a silent install

Dave

Hang on, I went to America, and against my will, kicking and screaming, HAD to go to Hooters, which 1 was falsely advertised ( :( ) and 2, they did food and I beleive it's classed as a bar?

Journeyman Geek

Its america

Its a strange strange place

I mean, they use imperial measures while being a republic

allquixotic

14:16

@JourneymanGeek and we have an Emperor who's called the President

Journeyman Geek

Just cause a watery tart....

Dave

an Emperor?

Journeyman Geek

Also, its very irregular to keep switching between dynasties at random ;p

allquixotic

!!tell 18658299 no

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

14:19

@JourneymanGeek it's the same dynasty. but rather than by blood or outward affiliation, The One Party's affiliation with itself is mostly financially-motivated.

Dave

The thing was about America, was how nice they were. I was in south Indiana/kentucky border. And people were beyond polite. A few rednecks yes, but everywhere has them (or variation). In the UK, you get asked " how are you" - We don't expect an answer, or if there is, we epxect it to be either "OK" or "Ok, you?" , and again, a reply of "OK" suffices. In the USA, they asked, and waited for a response, as in genuinely cared. Quite amazing people in that sense :)

allquixotic

anyone who's lived in the US for any significant time and isn't completely brainwashed by breathless propaganda can tell you that the Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same on 99% of the issues.... it's a choice between a middle-right conservative party and a far-right conservative party. there is no liberal choice -- not one that'll ever get elected, anyway

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: preeeeety much

allquixotic

thus, I call them The One Party

Journeyman Geek

Though most politics is shite anyway

GFSE

14:21

gemsfromstackexchange: Y U NO LET GO OF SHIFT KEY?

posted on November 18, 2014

Y U NO LET GO OF SHIFT KEY?

Dave

hang on, this is odd. They change dynasties, imperial measures and republic, this is a contradiction

LordStryker

So I think I screwed up an alias in .alias and now everytime I ssh into that machine my prompt freezes. Is there anyway to ssh into a machine under the same user and suppress the sourcing of .alias?

allquixotic

@Dave so you think that's surprising? huh

Dave

It would be like a new party called "The no swearing f*ck off party" :)

Journeyman Geek

@LordStryker: hm. tricky. No other admin accounts available?

LordStryker

14:21

Unfortunately I don't have root access

Dave

I admit, I don't do politics at all

allquixotic

even in the socially-conservative mid-atlantic region where people are known for being unfriendly (I live in Maryland), when we ask "how are you", we will expect an actual response

LordStryker

I've contacted the admin but response has been slow. I'm just curious to know if there is anything I can do.

Dave

you see :)

allquixotic

@LordStryker try Ctrl+Z

Dave

14:23

And you have real sun

In the UK, we make do with a bright day by drinking sunny delight and hoping we get our Vit D :)

allquixotic

not much sun right now -- with daylight savings time and the winter months, it's cold and it's dark by ~~5pm~~ 17:00 or so

Journeyman Geek

lol

LordStryker

@allquixotic I just tried mashing that for about a minute now. No joy.

Journeyman Geek

My whole neighbourhood knows me ._.

Dave

yes, starts getting dark at 4ish here so not too different

ha ha, @Journeyman, is that for good or bad reasons :)

Journeyman Geek

14:25

@Dave: Well, people see us on walkies ;p

Dave

Ah, your dog takes you on walkies?

LordStryker

Does switching user auto-source .alias? I would imagine it does.

allquixotic

@LordStryker Ctrl+C?

Journeyman Geek

@Dave: Who takes who on walkies is debatable.

LordStryker

@allquixotic Tried that too

allquixotic

14:27

@Dave JMG is the dog.

Dave

ha ha ha - My parents just got another collie. However, my wife wants another god.

LordStryker

omg

got it to work

Dave

@allquixotic ha ha ha

LordStryker

I had to ctrl-C RIGHT as i logged in

Journeyman Geek

@Dave: You do realise that dogs don't consider themselves gods. You need a cat for that.

LordStryker

14:27

a fraction of a second too late and it wouldn't work.

Dave

I never got into cats...

no pervy jokes please

LordStryker

@allquixotic You're the man/woman. I appreciate it

Dave

but, it was always dogs for me

Journeyman Geek

lol

We sort of got a dog accidentally.

Dave

go on...

allquixotic

14:28

@LordStryker man, thanks. there are no women in Root Access (ongoing joke; though mostly true)

Dave

who is we?

Journeyman Geek

A relative of ours married a former small time actress.

Who got a job here, and blew her first paycheck on a little snauzer mutt.

LordStryker

@allquixotic Ah. Well just trying not to step on any toes. Once again, thanks for your help mate.

Journeyman Geek

She almost bought a second dog, but the pet shop was like "See if you can handle him"

She got into a fight with her husband over the dog, left him at our place "temporarily"

10 years ago ;p

allquixotic

.......awwww

Dave

14:30

ha ha,

are they good dogs?

I mean, easily trained?

good with children?

allquixotic

> ;p

!!;p

ChatBot John Cavil

Journeyman Geek

Snauzers?

allquixotic

of course they are.

Journeyman Geek

Generally, they tend to stick to one person

allquixotic

14:31

!! s/they/we/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic Generally, we tend to stick to one person (source)

Journeyman Geek

great dogs once you realise they're probably smarter than you

@allquixotic: ahh, but I'm not full snauzer ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek close enough :P

also you're definitely smarter than me; look at all that rep! :D

Journeyman Geek

(granted, the other part of a spottiswoode terrier family tree... is mysterious)

allquixotic

@Bob I believe ARM Surface tablets are dead as of the 3rd generation, and Windows RT is probably dead too

Journeyman Geek

14:33

I think that's the week we worked out we had a dog. ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek why aren't you lazysitting??? or is that not you? *peers* can't tell

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: XD

Dave

ah ok. My parents Collie was like that, a one person dog

Journeyman Geek

Oh snauzers like everyone

usually great with kids when they get older

Dave

oh I see

Journeyman Geek

14:35

You ABSOLUTELY need to keep em engaged as puppies tho

Dave

I used to have en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasier (we rescued him from a center) but, he was not good with children. So we sent him off to the In Laws who still have him

I assume snauzers are very energetic?>

Journeyman Geek

naw

(though <--- may be part westie. They sleep a lot)

Bob

@allquixotic :(

I ordered one.

Still time to cancel, though :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: considering x86 tabs are hitting the same price point...

Bob

But it looks good enough that I don't want to.

Dave

14:36

you ordered a dog?

online?

he he he

Bob

@Dave wireless1.com.au/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: That's not windows RT

Dave

Yes, I saw this link earlier... I just concerned you may run out of space.. 64gb after the OS etc

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The question about RT was unrelated.

Dave

and as it's not RT, it means you'll eventually put on more programs blah blah

Journeyman Geek

14:38

ahh

Dave

however, I woudl buy it

ha ha

Bob

@Dave Eh, I was eying one with 16 GB. But that would've been problematic.

@allquixotic The other option: amazon.com/gp/product/B00ISV5V16

Which one would you pick? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: micro SD card slot?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ya.

Dave

What's it for?

Bob

14:39

@Dave General use?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: The first option seems better to me

Dave

first

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The problem is the CPU.

Journeyman Geek

Older. but bigger and more space

Bob

It's significantly weaker.

allquixotic

14:39

@Bob an eeepad? O_O

Bob

@allquixotic VivoTab Smart

Dave

Are you likely to max the CPU out for "general use"

Bob

It's a manufacturer refurb.

@Dave Atom CPU? Probably, yes.

allquixotic

@Bob Is "Neither" an option?

Bob

@allquixotic :(

But... I want a cheap Windows tablet...

allquixotic

14:41

I know. You've been salivating over them for weeks.

Bob

:P

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

I can't blame you for finally caving in.

Bob

Well, finally actually ordered one.

Journeyman Geek

Sounds like my speaker problems ;p

Bob

14:41

I'll see how it goes.

$200 isn't cheap, but it's not too big a hit.

allquixotic

It's just not the type of form factor or use case that I would ever want.

Journeyman Geek

(The one I want is not, nor is likely to be in stock. I've not found something comparable yet)

Dave

I used to have a netbook with an Atom - I ran Visual Studio fine ... Not huge apps but still, I never maxed it.

Bob

@allquixotic Eh, I want to get a feel for Windows on touch before dumping $1k-$2k on a Surface Pro

allquixotic

For "consumption" on a tabletish form factor, I now have my Note 4. For "production" I want at minimum a device like a Surface Pro.

@Bob Fair enough

Dave

14:44

@Bob, would it not be chepaer to buy a cheap Lumia?

a w8.1 phone?

it's touch, same OS etc etc

Journeyman Geek

@Dave: Can't run proper x86 apps

Bob

O_O wtf Knoppix has a store? knoppix.net/store/…

Dave

yes, but if it's just about playing with the touch, it will save about $150

Bob

@Dave It's an entirely different OS.

And feels very different, too.

I already have a Lumia 520. Completely different size, different experience, etc..

I already have (cheap) Android tablets. I've played with Windows tablets in stores, including Surface Pro 3s.

I know how they generally work.

Dave

hmmmmm

Bob

14:45

I just want to know if trying to use desktop Windows on touch for an extended period of time will piss me off.

Dave

@Bob I'll say. Just buy the Pro!!!

You konw you'll be happier

:D

Bob

@Dave Far too expensive.

I'm thinking SP4, maybe, and even then it wouldn't be on launch.

Dave

SP1 ?

Bob

Eww.

Dave

ha ha ha

it's cheaper

and it's touch

and it's Win

Bob

14:47

> Cheaper

$500 second hand

...nope

Dave

:)

Bob

@allquixotic I like how your pocket-device is now tabletish :P

Heck, if the 8" VivoTab is discounted far enough during next week's sales, I might pick that up (in addition to?).

My brother wanted one as well :P

...though he just wants to read webcomics in bed :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@allquixotic wtf is going on over there? (Missouri)

allquixotic

@Bob I live in Maryland. no clue what is going on in Missouri.

that's nowhere near here

Bob

14:52

@allquixotic Something about a governor and state of emergency? :S

allquixotic

possibly weather-related

Bob

@allquixotic They're also mentioning state troopers and a grand jury O_O

...I'll just ignore it

allquixotic

cnn.com/2014/11/17/us/ferguson-state-of-emergency/…

Bob

On somewhat related news, my dad will be in the US east coast in about 6 hours :P

allquixotic

> Ahead of a grand jury's decision on whether to indict a police officer in the killing of Michael Brown, Missouri has both called in the National Guard and diminished the role of the Ferguson Police Department.

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon declared a state of emergency Monday as a precaution, he said, in the event of unrest or violence.

It's unknown when the grand jury will hand down a decision on whether to indict Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson for his fatal shooting of Brown, a teen. Prosecutors have suggested the grand jury would be done deliberating in mid- to late November.

Journeyman Geek

14:53

ahh that place

where the riots where?

allquixotic

to sum it up for non-USAians, it's basically an issue of racial tensions

there is still a whole lot of caucasian / african-american racial tension here

Bob

:(

allquixotic

especially in places like Missouri

Bob

@allquixotic I honestly have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: People being mean to each other due to inconcequencial things like skin colour, escalating into actual violence :/

Bob

14:55

@JourneymanGeek I mean I have no idea what's special about that specific location.

Oh good lord.

Journeyman Geek

2014 Ferguson unrest

Protests and civil disorder began the day after the fatal shooting of Michael Brown on August 9, 2014, in Ferguson, Missouri. As the details of the original shooting event emerged from investigators, police established curfews and deployed riot squads to maintain order. Along with peaceful protests, there was looting and violent unrest in the vicinity of the original shooting. According to media reports, there was police militarization when dealing with protests in Ferguson. The United States Department of Justice is investigating the Ferguson police force for possible misconduct or discrimination...

Bob

"This game needs Unity web player!"

*install*

"This web page is trying to load Java"

...pls no

allquixotic

@Bob basically, Missouri, being a Confederate state during the ACW, still has some residents/families who've been living there since those times (or prior, even) who refuse to give up racism

Bob

O_O

allquixotic

and by residents/families I mean, irrespective of skin color

both sides are involved

also there's a lot of empty space in Missouri, so it's easy to hide a little town or farm somewhere isolated from the rest of the world, so if you're disconnected from the global consciousness, you don't grasp things like racial equality quite so readily

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