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Linker3000

00:00

Several ways to munge an optical drive.....

cdduplication4less.com/shaped.htm

How many of those will be off balance!?

@JourneymanGeek Morning

William Hilsum

Munge?

Journeyman Geek

@Linker3000: well, about 3 of them

@WilliamHilsum: mess up

William Hilsum

... Well, I have seen the small squares, they work surprisingly well... but, the price is annoying

@JourneymanGeek ahh, thanks

Journeyman Geek

well, that's not the normal usage of it, but yay for context

Linker3000

@JourneymanGeek Apart from the techy use: "...it also appears the word munge was in common use in Scotland in the 1940s, and in Yorkshire in the 1950s, as a verb, meaning to munch up into a masticated mess" ie: "Chew up"

Journeyman Geek

00:08

ahh

Journeyman Geek

00:22

serverfault.com/questions/307422/… ROFL

aww, they deleted it

William Hilsum

I missed it :( ... Still have it open?

need 8k more rep to see it!

@Linker3000 Never heard it once! Even tried looking up the definition! Oh well!

Journeyman Geek

@WilliamHilsum: pastebin.com/RPakwtCx

William Hilsum

LOL

Journeyman Geek

(if you have read or watched the song of ice and fire/Game of Thrones, you'd understand ;p)

William Hilsum

was it a 1 rep user or someone else?

ahh... :(

Journeyman Geek

00:27

1 rep user, prolly a troll

but a vaguely amusing one

William Hilsum

lol

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/suggested-edits/5160 horrid edit >_>

Journeyman Geek

00:46

oh yeah

@WilliamHilsum: Probably waaay back, but Apparently my new school does have MSDNAA

William Hilsum

@JourneymanGeek Nice... have fun downloading!

FYI, I have been watching so many Pluralsight videos recently, they are brilliant and you get 90 days for free

Journeyman Geek

nvm

that does seem cool tho

(when i managed to get around to learning to code, proper-like)

Simon Sheehan

Thanks to them, I now payed $20 for 4 licenses of Office 2010 Professional Plus :P

Actual value: $500 each

Journeyman Geek

01:07

lol

@SimonSheehan: i donno if we have that super subsidised pricing here

Journeyman Geek

01:35

eh, i need a hand

what's the proper way to cite a registry location in windows? superuser.com/questions/330971/…

Gareth

I always write it like a path, i.e.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USBSTOR

and using the code formatting

Journeyman Geek

ahh

fixed

Gareth

and %windir should be %windir% if you wanted to be exact :) but meh, it's Friday, I wouldn't care

Journeyman Geek

thanks

fixed XD

Gareth

heard lots of sighing in the office this morning. guess it's been a long week

not a fan of the avatar drop shadows!

@Journeyman do you do the whole mooncake thing in Singapore as well?

I'm sick of them and they've only really been around a week

Journeyman Geek

01:55

ya

most malls have most of their foyers taken up by them ;p

Gareth

I end up eating them for breakfast for the next five months

some aren't bad, but the majority are bland and overpriced

Journeyman Geek

02:06

lol

five?

Simon Sheehan

Hey @Gareth, just curious, what is your job anyway?

Journeyman Geek

how many did you get o0

and i have no idea how they last that long

Gareth

@SimonSheehan tech management at Amazon

they last AGES because they put those weird packets inside that keep them moist

every year I always get way too many

Journeyman Geek

03:26

oh joy..

superuser.com/users/96346/dowserrorsyeell this user is tripping up my spider-sense (tm)

Windos

03:48

Already marked one of their answers as spam

>.<

Are rather: "their answer" (singular)

Sathya

04:04

@SimonSheehan ROFL.

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya what was that in response to? I'm on a mobile device :p can't tell

Sathya

@SimonSheehan @Wil's userscript and the image

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya hah, yeah. I'm tempted to install Greasemonkey just for a laugh everytime I visit the site :p

Journeyman Geek

blah

wishes people wouldn't 'edit' answers when they ought to just post their own

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek reject the edit?

Simon Sheehan

04:09

Or maybe I'll find some more useful scripts from Stackapps

Sathya

if it is a suggested edit, that is

Journeyman Geek

ya

Simon Sheehan

@Journeyman agreed... Big time. Today I was slightly bothered by it

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: it is

Sathya

2 days ago, by Sathya

@WilliamHilsum you need SE Modifications script (the others are optional though) - https://github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts

Journeyman Geek

04:10

hm Now i see why... editing the 'right' answer to get a mention of one's own software...

sneaky sneaky

Sathya

+ few others

Simon Sheehan

I'm not mentioning names, but someone thought it would be a good idea to edit a shopping question from 09" to fit their question on bandwidth throttling. All to avoid posting a question.

It was just... Bothersome.

@Sathya I wish that editors toolkit script would get updated :/

Sathya

@SimonSheehan I've ported it to the desktop...

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya oh really? How does that work?

Sathya

Jul 17 at 8:18, by Sathya

@studiohack WIP - try it when you can - Desktop version of Stack Exchange editor toolkit

@SimonSheehan you manually copy + paste the content

Simon Sheehan

04:16

@Sathya pretty cool, I'll try it tomorrow. Just downloaded it to my dropbox so I don't lose it :p

Sathya

@SimonSheehan sure..

Simon Sheehan

Anyways, off to bed. Cya later everyone

Sathya

see ya @Simon

Windos

04:43

Hope I'm not pissing anyone off this afternoon with my flags...

Journeyman Geek

05:18

@Sathya: shiny. I assume its primarily for case correction?

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek primarily, but there are some.. other changes:

  txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bur\b", "your");
            txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bi( |')","I$1");
            txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bi ?m\b","I'm");
            txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bu\b","you");
            txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bur\b", "your");
            txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bcud\b", "could");
            txtContent.Text = Regex.Replace(txtContent.Text, @"\bc(o|u)z\b", "because", RegexOptions.IgnoreCase);

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek available here: github.com/SathyaBhat/StackEd

Journeyman Geek

07:39

that was quick

@SimonSheehan: don't sleep much, do you? ;p

DMA57361

08:04

morning all

Gareth

08:20

hello

there are only 114 days left until Christmas.

Linker3000

@Gareth And the UK supermarkets already have their Christmas sweets selections in stock

Gareth

seriously? haha

that's depressing

nhinkle

hello folks

(if there be any folks here)

Gareth

hello

DMA57361

@nhinkle hi

nhinkle

08:31

finally got the new computer up and running. installing windows now. fans are a bit loud... i'll have to look at options for insulation or maybe slowing them down

Simon Sheehan

@Journeyman I have the worst sleep schedule :p meant to go 4 hours ago

nhinkle

@SimonSheehan isn't it like 5 AM your time or something?

Simon Sheehan

4:34 currently

nhinkle

@SimonSheehan close enough

when does school start back up for you?

William Hilsum

@Sathya hehe! :)

Simon Sheehan

08:35

@nhinkle in 4 days :P

nhinkle

@SimonSheehan hopefully we don't lose you completely then

Simon Sheehan

@nhinkle oh definitely not - I've got a very easy schedule this year, and I won't have much home work from most classes

nhinkle

@SimonSheehan are you starting high school or are you still in middle school?

Simon Sheehan

@nhinkle I'm going into the 11th grade

nhinkle

what? for some reason I thought you were way younger

do we have a user here who's younger who we see a lot? what grade is mark going into?

oooh we've got some beeeaaaautiful 800x600 going on this 1920x1080 monitor. whoo-eee!

Simon Sheehan

08:41

Haha. I'm 16 currently :P

Also, let me upload my schedule..

nhinkle

well i guess that makes me oblivious >.<

apologies

Simon Sheehan

@nhinkle Mark won't say his exactly age, it is around mine :p

nhinkle

looks pretty good

what's "transportation tech"? sounds kinda fun

and how many of these classes is "doing stuff for SU" considered "homework"? :P

Simon Sheehan

It's auto shop. We fix cars :)

Haha. I actually write blog posts during communication tech, I have a lot of free time there :p

It's all photoshop and video editing that takes me minutes, while my classmates often take longer, so I get to do a lot of extra stuff :p

nhinkle

correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't need to use the driver CD that came with my graphics card, right? i can just download them from ATI?

Gareth

08:45

you're best downloading them from ATI

Sathya

yep. Screw those manufacturer drivers*

*unless it's a laptop, in which case you are the one who's screwed

Simon Sheehan

Yep. Get the latest from ATI

nhinkle

Figured as much

Gareth

support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

nhinkle

this is the first desktop build i've done with no optical drive. i installed windows from a flash drive

Gareth

08:46

@nhinkle it's so much nicer imo

nhinkle

@Gareth yah I found it. installing on a different computer anyhow, i'm not logged into SU over there

Simon Sheehan

I'm signed in on every machine in my home :p

nhinkle

yeah but i literally just booted this computer. i haven't even installed anything but the default drivers

Simon Sheehan

Ah okay. Best to get that stuff out of the way

nhinkle

aww damn. i installed with my SP0 ISO not my SP1 ISO

there goes 3 hours downloading updates

Simon Sheehan

08:49

Or you can be like me and wait a month to update the graphics card, and suffer constant GPU crashes :p

nhinkle

next task: get some wire ties, and make this cable management suck less

brb - time for a snack

Simon Sheehan

Something tells me an entire summer of late nights is not going to go well when school hits

Now that it's 5am, I'll work on that. Night everyone! (again)

nhinkle

bye @SimonSheehan

see you in 5 minutes ;)

Gareth

see you!

I'm off too now. see you all later

nhinkle

'night @Gareth

Journeyman Geek

09:45

@nhinkle: I tend to use WSUS offline updater to avoid that - tends to save time when all the patching is automagical, and i can download updates ahead of time ;p

nhinkle

@JourneymanGeek yeah but I don't have a server here to run WSUS on

and i usually just use an SP1 disk

Journeyman Geek

lol

it dosen't use wsus

download.wsusoffline.net <- muchly awesome

nhinkle

oh that thing. what a lying name. :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

also installs basic runtimes, office updates, MSSE...

niiceee

nhinkle

it appears that imgur saves png's as jpg's above a certain resolution...

i've decided to start naming computers after space shuttles, in honor of the program being retired

i'll have to rename my laptop

William Hilsum

10:07

I edited a question to add formatting and stuff, then someone undoes it and it is difficult to read again! :( superuser.com/posts/331060/revisions

DMA57361

@WilliamHilsum given the close timing it was probably an edit clash

William Hilsum

ok, fair enough!

nhinkle

> If you purchase a Traditional Disc retail license of Office Home and Business 2010 or Office Professional 2010, the retail license terms allow you to install, activate, and use Office Home and Business 2010 or Office Professional 2010 on your primary PC and your portable device such as your laptop. - Office 2010 FAQ

hurray! I don't need to buy two copies of Office

DMA57361

oh? that's quite handy

nhinkle

(only applies to Business and Pro editions though. but the home student edition is already licensed for 3 computers)

DMA57361

10:22

well I'll be sticking with '07 for now on the grounds that I'm cheap

nhinkle

@DMA57361 yah... I was running on 2003 until last year. got 2010 with my new laptop. about time for an upgrade

William Hilsum

@nhinkle fyi, something that hardly anyone knows... if your office has a good licensing deal, there is a high chance you have home usage rights and can get it for free anyway

nhinkle

@WilliamHilsum well I'm a student, so it's no freebie, but I can get it at a really discounted price

well, i should get to bed. it's after 3 AM here

William Hilsum

Ahh, ok! well, goodnight!

nhinkle

'night

Simon Sheehan

12:41

Morning again.

Mokubai

'ello

Though, morning was a while ago... ;)

Simon Sheehan

:P those damn time zones.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@SimonSheehan: I'm starting to suspect you of being an AI ;p

Simon Sheehan

@JourneymanGeek Perhaps... Programmers are getting good at generating random dialogue that responds to you :P

Journeyman Geek

and that sleeping bit would be a nice touch

Simon Sheehan

12:50

They only programmed limited sleep patterns into me, and the algorithm is very random :/

Mokubai

Or they just set you to torment different parts of the internet during different parts of the day...

Journeyman Geek

naw, the best way to convince a person you're a person is the 'need' to sleep

or accusing someone else of being an AI...

Simon Sheehan

Only slept 2 hours last night, I'll be crashing at 9 today :P

DMA57361

@SimonSheehan am?

Simon Sheehan

@DMA57361 Likely PM.

DMA57361

12:58

only likely?

Simon Sheehan

My sleep is erratic, anything could happen :P

DMA57361

noted ;)

Journeyman Geek

13:20

@SimonSheehan: used to be like that. Sadly the solution was nothing with caffeine after 7pm

and the dog

Simon Sheehan

@JourneymanGeek Haha. Mine's just me needing to force myself to sleep

Simon Sheehan

13:34

Not sure what to make of this question...

-1

Q: differences of OS

what are the difference of Operating Systems?? basically, what makes them unique than the other. when you get down to the lowest level of operating systems such as Linux, Mac, & Windows, what are some of the key differences between them ? Surely there's got to be things like N operating sy...

Journeyman Geek

its not constuctive

Simon Sheehan

I agree

Journeyman Geek

and very few people know the low level details of multiple OSes...

Simon Sheehan

Yeah, the answer would probably end up being "WINDOZE SUCKS MAC Sux USE LINUS"

Journeyman Geek

lol

linux has multiple scheduling options

Simon Sheehan

13:37

i enjoy Linux when I can use it

which is not too often

Journeyman Geek

lol

I need to get a working install at some point. I've been messing around with gentoo for too long

Simon Sheehan

Although I've got a machine with it at school that I need to nuke and redo

Journeyman Geek

properly nuke or...

Simon Sheehan

Nuke everything on it :P

Journeyman Geek

securely?

(as opposed to a simple format and install. nuke to me is a full overwrite with zeros wipe at least)

Simon Sheehan

13:42

Its an old machine :P

Journeyman Geek

o0

Simon Sheehan

It wouldn't matter security wise

Journeyman Geek

what's the black one?

Simon Sheehan

The one im talking about

Couldn't even tell you the specs

Something like a 2Ghz intel single core, 1GB RAM

Journeyman Geek

what OS?

ahh

BloodPhilia

13:44

Hi!

Simon Sheehan

Currently Ubuntu, which i didn't install

Some kid came in, installed Ubuntu, then never told us the password

Journeyman Geek

lol

single user mode!

Simon Sheehan

So i'm removing it and using Arch, building it up to just audio recording

BloodPhilia

whatsup

Journeyman Geek

i've broken into my own system once or twice. its good fun

or or...

Simon Sheehan

13:44

@BloodPhilia Hey! Just discussing ancient computers :P

Journeyman Geek

konboot

BloodPhilia

Haha!

Journeyman Geek

i mean, if you're going to nuke it, you might as well have a little fun

BloodPhilia

Im wishing I had at least a Raid 1 config ):

Simon Sheehan

@JourneymanGeek The Mac is part of the little cluster I use for video and audio stuff.

haha, yep

Journeyman Geek

13:46

sadly, i don't recognise ubuntu... thought it was OS X on the black box >_>

Simon Sheehan

:P

Nah, these are the OS X machines

Journeyman Geek

emacs and imacs ;p

Simon Sheehan

1.25Ghz PowerPC eMac's

1 iMac only :P

Journeyman Geek

nice ;p

Simon Sheehan

2 Mac mini's

This year we want to get a hexacore for video rendering

PPC just doesn't cut it anymore :/

We can't build our own machine though

This looked like a big advertisement.. superuser.com/posts/331007/revisions

0

Q: Why would moving from anything Microsoft be such a good idéa

The owner of the company I´m working at is on a rampage: She is moving to saving as much money as possible, which means pulling Microsoft Office and other licenses from the ordinary deadly non-administrative-, non-IT-people. What I want is great, compelling reasons to why moving from expensive ...

outlook microsoft-office alternative sharepoint

Mokubai

14:02

Wow, when did we get weird funky popouts when you mouse-over someones name?

DMA57361

@Mokubai yesterday or the day before

they're quite spiffy

Mokubai

Shows how much attention I pay ;)

Seems to be a minimum 2k rep for it to trigger on your name

DMA57361

I read 1k, but you need to have something in the "about me" box too

Mokubai

That would make sense

Simon Sheehan

Downloading Arch to run on Virtualbox.. need to figure out how to get this thing going so I can replicate it at school

Mokubai

14:20

Some good guides on the Arch wiki iirc

I got a headless LAMP server running with Arch ages ago

Simon Sheehan

Arch Wiki is brilliant, I love that it can really be used for any linux flavour

Mokubai

My favourite Linux distro was Gentoo, but I suspect if I needed Linux again Arch would be the way I'd go

Simon Sheehan

I was born and raised on Fedora :P

Mokubai

Sadly I was raised on Atari, then Amiga, then Windows...

With a bit of linux thrown in when I got curious

Simon Sheehan

Had a machine with a 400mhz CPU, and 64MB of RAM. Ran Fedora Core 2 :P

When I was... 7 i think

or 8

Mokubai

14:28

And I'm still unconvinced by Linux.

My first Windoze machine was a 200MHz jobbie

Simon Sheehan

Damn

Mokubai

Back when I was a little rugrat we had 8MHz CPUs

Simon Sheehan

Mine was 800mhz Windows 98 :P

well you've been around to see all the big hardware changes and stuff :P

Mokubai

Aye, been around to see the (long overdue) death of many technologies...

Simon Sheehan

I was a few years late :P

Mokubai

14:31

And the few false starts that seemed to be the incoming USB standard...

It didn't always work as well as it does now

Simon Sheehan

I do wish I could have grown up seeing it all

The last 10 years has changed a lot, but not quite like 1990-2000

Mokubai

If you plugged in a device before installing drivers you occasionally had to go to the manufacturer and look for their "driver nuke" program.

The last few years seem to have been the most pointless, what with Web 2.0 and the rise of "social networking", and games all advancing towards the chest-high wall shotting gallery tedium. It just seems that not much has happened except to advance much... except the desire to grab what money you can from people

Personally, I blame Apple.

The only companies that really seem to be innovating are the CPU and graphics card manufacturers.

Linker3000

14:50

@Mokubai, I see we're still following each other around...

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Q: Request to Re-Open Question #331125

The question: Why would moving from anything Microsoft be such a good idea? According to @Random (who closed it) it was due to the likelyness of it 'solicit opinion, debate, arguments, polling, or extended discussion'. This is clearly not the case. I explicitly said (please, look at the first ...

discussion closed-questions reopen-closed

You posted your answer about 10 secs before mine.

@SimonSheehan My first PC (at work) was the original, twin floppy IBM PC in 1981!

Mokubai

@Linker3000 Yeah, are you looking through my window or something, waiting for me to click post?

Simon Sheehan

@Linker3000 Oh wow :O That's crazy. I never experienced floppies :(

Sathya

Ok, this just in: I'll be moving to Bangalore soon.

Tweeted by SathyaBhat on September 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Linker3000

@SimonSheehan Now I feel old! My first actual computer experience was in 1979 - a Commodore PET at school + we had some UK101s we put together - pics when I find some...

Mokubai

@Sathya Wow, cool.

Linker3000

14:54

UK101 - solder it together yourself!

Mokubai

@Linker3000 AHHHHH, NOOOOOOO

Simon Sheehan

@Linker3000 I feel young all of a sudden :o

Mokubai

Hmmm, part of me suspects that this guy simply didn't want to give the correct answer to Daniel Beck

@SimonSheehan I feel old, it wasn't that long ago that I was working on boards like that

Linker3000

@Mokubai I'm waiting to see what comeback I get!

The first ever computer for which I wrote a program!

Mokubai

@Linker3000 Looks all shiney and new!

I bet it would play Angry Birds quite well

Linker3000

15:01

Heh - "irritated block-graphics" more like

Mokubai

Angry Pong!

Linker3000

@Sathya Following your work or other good reasons? (hope it goes well either way)

Mokubai

Oh that would be awesome retro gaming right there

Sathya

@Linker3000 following work

Journeyman Geek

my first system was an XT clone

the sad thing is, at some point i'll likely be able to get a 35 dollar system better than the first system i ever built...

(PII 233, can't remember how much ram..)

Mokubai

15:04

Yeah, it worries me that any given mobile phone these days has more power than my first "real" computer

Sathya

why in the world is taskhost.exe spiking my CPU to 25%?

Mokubai

Maybe it feels like having a run? badum-tish

@Sathya Quad-core system?

Sathya

@Mokubai lol

@Mokubai dual-core w/HT

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai: got my eyes on the raspberrypi, seems to be a VERY interesting system

Mokubai

@Sathya The interwebs is not helpful about taskhost, apparently Process Explorer might help

@JourneymanGeek I keep seeing bits about that, but no real information

All I can see it that it looks like a tablet-pc type device without the screen or anything...

Journeyman Geek

15:11

@Mokubai: hense seems

well, ARM SOC + TV out + HDMI, can be powered off 6 volts, and will run debian+lxde most likely

Mokubai

Seems that ARM processors may take over the world...

Journeyman Geek

lol

they already have

pretty much everything that's not a x86 system is one

Linker3000

@JourneymanGeek Will probably get a Pi to have a play.

Mokubai

Can't remember who posted it but saw the Pi playing Quake 3

Journeyman Geek

its on their blog

Linker3000

15:13

Will be a bit tiny compared to my current stuff (rack 1 of 4)

..but probably more interesting!

Journeyman Geek

raspberrypi.org/?p=106

@Linker3000: its a bit tiny compared to my current dual laptop setup as well ;p

Linker3000

I expect the backups will take much less time too!

Mokubai

@Linker3000 hypnotized by blinkenlights

Linker3000

It's scary - the bright blob in the middle is a power LED for one if the systems and it's red so we have to keep doing a double take to make sure it's not an error light from one of the arrays. I keep debating whether to change it or just tape it over!

Mokubai

I'd open the unit up and replace it with a blue LED

Or one of those party multicolour blinky LEDs, just for giggles

Linker3000

15:19

I need a machine that goes 'ping'

Mokubai

LOL

The most expensive machine in the hospital...

Journeyman Geek

@Linker3000: backups? (i keed i keed)

hmm

Linker3000

For the WTF crowd: urbandictionary.com/…

Journeyman Geek

actually..

wonders if its worth reinstalling everything to move from windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit

Mokubai

I love the "Aggressive Corporate Takeover" skit from that film

@JourneymanGeek How much memory on mobo and graphics card?

Journeyman Geek

15:22

integrated graphics, 4 gb

Linker3000

@JourneymanGeek Our tape backups take 4 days to run through a single cycle! They're 'backed up' by daily diffs to a disk array to cover the period. Crazy.

Mokubai

Hmmm. Definitely worth it if you were using dedicated graphics, probably still make slightly better use of the processor on 64-bit...

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai: the big pain is reinstalling/installing the drivers and other stuff the system comes with. Least with thinkpads its easy to find

Mokubai

Mandatory for all youngsters to watch:

►

Journeyman Geek

if there was some way to magically switch architectures..

Simon Sheehan

15:25

YES

GOT X WORKING

WOOOOHOOOOOO

Journeyman Geek

lol

Mokubai

@SimonSheehan What's that then?

Simon Sheehan

You know, X.org

Journeyman Geek

@SimonSheehan: least with arch, you don't get told to set up the kernel a certain way... then 'no wait, you need these too!' to get x working...

Simon Sheehan

@JourneymanGeek Indeed, wasn't too bad. Now to just auto start it..

Mokubai

15:28

Ah, getting X up and running can be an interesting experience.

Simon Sheehan

It was quite the experience today

Sathya

15:39

@Mokubai good idea, I'll do tha tnext time.

William Hilsum

15:50

@Sathya Congratulations? ... Well, good luck!

@Linker3000 Nice!... What do you make of the Qnap? I have seen good reviews, but, nothing beats first hand experience!?

Sathya

@WilliamHilsum thanks!

Journeyman Geek

meta.superuser.com/questions/3382/… erf. I wonder what OS he uses...

Linker3000

@WilliamHilsum It's been chugging along fine for as long as I have been here - about 9 months - without any issues. We have another on site #2 and it's behaved likewise. The QNAP stuff is not bad for the price but the beastie with the shiny red LED is a storage server that we made up ourselves in a 2U case that came with 6 caddy bays and all the trays - this allowed us to have something with a bit more CPU power for less dosh. The case and PSU were about £270 - linky when I find it....

xcase.co.uk/Rackmount-2u-hotswap-case-p/case-x-case-206h-2.htm

William Hilsum

Such a hard one! If I had my way, I would always just buy rackmount cases, a load of drives and load openfiler or freenas on... but... I am just worried about something failing.. Off the shelf NASs just seem simpler to sell

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