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Journeyman Geek

00:10

@MichaelFrank: beats me. There's an ad for it in the usally shitty computer suppliment ;p

and eh, I'm half jokingly wondering if there's a market for container VMs/VPSes in odder architectures.

Bob

00:39

@JourneymanGeek Thinking of getting into the hosting business? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: actually, if I could make money off it... it would be a dream job

.... holy cow... 20 upvotes for the windows 98 browser question so far

@Bob: I have no clue about pricing (but I'm convinced a lot of hosts don't either) and many of the business aspects of things.

Journeyman Geek

01:10

superuser.com/questions/786660/… pitchers?

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I was just about to paste that here!

I lost it at 'cregslist'

Journeyman Geek

fixed it though

I wonder if we need a generic recovery question.

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek It would be very long.

Journeyman Geek

Thats the whole point ;p

I'm entirely aware of that - its a major part of my training.

Michael Frank

01:27

0

Q: Converting excel cells in individual slides in powerpoint

I have one long column of info (see below) and need to take every two lines (the person's response and their name) and easily make them into individual powerpoint slides?!?!?! ASAP?!?! Please help Relationships matter means everything -anonymous

microsoft-excel microsoft-powerpoint cells

wut?

office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/…

Bob

...why do I torture myself with MS Answers?

answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie8-windows_other/… <== yet another fucking useless "answer" from a dumbass "MVP" who apparently can't read/posts from a script

a bot can do better

Michael Frank

@Bob Yea... that's a really useless answer.

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Michael Frank

03:16

0

Q: How to fix Google contacts CSV file?

I have over 1000 Google contacts and many have multiple contacts and phone numbers. I exported the contacts in both Google and Outlook format. Either I open the CSV in Excel or SubmlimeText, many of the contacts are split into multiple rows. The CSV export is a mess. How to fix that? Example ...

csv export contacts google-contacts gmail-contacts

Michael Frank

03:39

I like this question but hardware request :(

0

Q: Control Windows "Volume Mixer" with hardware faders/sliders

Imagine you're streaming music through the internet, playing a steam game, and in a voice chat with your group of friends. As you can imagine, there is going to be a lot of audio output and balancing everything takes quite a bit of time and tweaking. Windows has the "Volume Mixer" which needs to ...

windows audio mixer

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Journeyman Geek

06:23

Considering you can do this with a keyboard...

Journeyman Geek

07:08

-1

Q: looking for batch scripts tutorials

i'm just starting to learn batch scripts, could you recommend any up to date tutorial? All I could find were 6 years old tutorials and I believe some things have changed. Thanks!

windows-7 windows batch script

I was tempted to comment "Batch... batch never changes...."

Oliver Salzburg

07:24

@JourneymanGeek Maybe you could have tricked him into thinking the correct term is "badge"

That would have been nice

Bob

08:04

@OliverSalzburg badge

Oliver Salzburg

08:26

badge-file

Bob

08:54

https links now also get converted. — Oded ♦ 16 mins ago

lol.

Michael Frank

09:34

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ just had the most epic comeback in DG. We had only destroyed two of their towers, whereas they had all our towers and ally cores down. We manage to wipe them out at our guardian, rush to their end kill their towers, ally cores, and guardian all before they respawn.

Oliver Salzburg

He should just get a vanity domain and forward all requests to Amazon. Something catchy like ihatestackexcha.ng

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, you can but how much cooler would it be if you had a nice fader setup going?

@OliverSalzburg huh... wha?

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Journeyman Geek

11:46

@MichaelFrank much.

Though I am sure most faders are purely analog

Jordan Richards

Hello, now, I am unsure whether this is the right place to ask this. It is to do with installing a specific software. github.com/SupremoRTD/LoyaltyBot

How would I go about installing this on my VPS? I have no idea where to start.

I couldn't find any installation instructions, maybe someone could figure it out and get back to me? Thanks :)

(Side note: I do not use github all that often, so I may of missed something)

Bob

12:32

@JordanRichards First, install NodeJS either from a package repo or by compiling from source.

Then install git

then git clone the repo

then write your bot script, and run it (node script.js or nodejs script.js - the binary can vary depending on your OS)

Jordan Richards

oh

So it's not run from a .php or .html page

I run it from a screen in ssh?

Phew.

Thanks for the help, I'll get to work!

Oh one more thing, I am running CentOS 5 and I want to install something like phpmyadmin or something, but I have no idea where to start.

(@Bob)

terdon

13:05

@JordanRichards yum install phpmyadmin ?

I don't know if CentOS has it in its repos though.

Alternatively, download it from their website and install manually.

Journeyman Geek

ugh. noooo

don't use phpmyadmin

also if you're sticking with centos, get the epel repos

@JordanRichards: node.js is basically a server that lets you code stuff in js and you run it on it.

you wouldn't need much else

Jordan Richards

rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1 is needed by epel-release-6-8.noarch
rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) <= 5.2-1 is needed by epel-release-6-8.noarch

How can I install these dependencies?

Journeyman Geek

13:25

erf

Thats odd

wait.

I THINK you are attempting to install a centos 6 version of epel

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

heya guys

Journeyman Geek

lo

@JordanRichards: I hate to be a downer, but I suspect you might want to switch your VPS to ubuntu

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

may not be around as much the next few days; things will heat up at work... a lot. Friday is pretty much a no-show for me except in the evening U.S. time, if I have enough stamina to log in at home and don't feel like playing any games

Journeyman Geek

preferably an LTS

simply cause its easier for us to help you

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: aww

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

today should be about normal, but tomorrow is spotty and Friday is definitely a no-go

Journeyman Geek

13:30

and lol. I won't be around much on friday either. Need to drop by the unit in the morning

(thankfully I'm not in the dog unit, they're next door)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@MichaelFrank LOL. the walk-off reversal! :D

Journeyman Geek

Of course, their GSDs are sissies. Afraid of the dark.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JourneymanGeek NO :/

don't install Ubuntu on a server D:

hell, don't even install it on a desktop!

Journeyman Geek

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: meh. He's a developer, not a sysadmin

and ubuntu does have more up to date, and more packages

at the cost of occationally breaking shit

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards why are you installing EPEL 6 on CentOS 5? That's just wrong-minded. That's like trying to put an engine from a 2010 car into a Ford Model T from 1925.

that's your problem. if you're using CentOS 5, use EPEL 5!

Journeyman Geek

13:34

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: I mentioned that ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

the "PayloadIsXz" should've been your tip-off, honestly: XZ support in RPM didn't exist until CentOS 6

Journeyman Geek

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ: I wouldn't have caught that ;p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Mehrdad Sure: Just write a "compression" algorithm that always returns the original input. There; done. :P ... Aside from that, no -- any compression algorithm that's an algorithm at all is going to have some metadata, even if it's just one bit at the start of the file that indicates whether or not the file is compressed (0 == uncompressed, 1 == compressed). If you're going to modify the contents of the file AT ALL, you need some metadata. And if you're modifying the contents, you're going to make some inputs larger. — ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ 5 mins ago

Journeyman Geek

13:52

o0

Apparently my windows 98 'modern' browser question hit 2500 views.

whut?

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ :(

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

So I'm in a weird situation. The gratr gem for Ruby (even a very heavily hacked version of it that I grabbed from github, after pulling several separate forks' patchsets into one unified fork) has major problems running on Ruby 1.9.3. It appears to have been originally written for Ruby 1.8.x at the latest. There's a "Ruby 1.9" port, but 1.9.3 seems to have broken even more stuff.

The actual conceptual representation of the data I'm working with is a polytree, which is a special case of an oriented digraph, but more general than an n-ary "traditional" tree, because each node can have more than one parent.

I can't find any polytree implementations, and I can't get gratr's digraph working without throwing a bazillion exceptions and flipping the fuck out because it's ancient code trying to run on Ruby 1.9.3, which is semi-modern.

What I'm now trying to do is use RubyTree gem, which actually works, to shoehorn the polytree data into an n-ary tree representation. It's fucking weird, because there's only one parent per node, but no exception is thrown if you make a node the child of multiple nodes.

Journeyman Geek

o0

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

So if I look at the .parent property of a node, or call any methods that depend on it, things get fucked up -- but if I traverse the tree from the top down by getting the children of each node, it works.

Journeyman Geek

silly question

why not use ruby 1.8?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

14:06

And fortunately it doesn't make a copy of the nodes when you make it a child, so I tested (by using object_id to verify the actual memory address) adding one node object to the children collection of multiple nodes, and everybody was happy, and the pointers matched up, and I could mutate the child and its changes would be reflected by going through the separate parent nodes' children.

@JourneymanGeek Because my development environment is pretty much fixed at Ruby 1.9.3, because I'm tacking on this script to an already-deployed environment that was set up for a different project. (At work)

Also, there are plenty of gems that I use that probably no longer support Ruby 1.8.x.

Journeyman Geek

and I'm tired as hell, so I may be wrong, but thats the sort of thing that may be on topic for sr.se.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

Hmm. Idea: I could store within each node's contents, a list of parents, and manually keep track of that list each time I add/remove nodes from the tree...

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ or DIY the whole tree impl? :P

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

Then I'd just have to write a custom implementation of level (returns an integer representing how deep the node is in the tree) that calls the original level with each parent in the parents collection, and returns the largest value...

@Bob ugh :P

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ It's not that hard... depending on what you need from your tree

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

14:11

but it's a polytree! I've implemented binary trees by hand, and I could probably do an n-ary tree, but a polytree would be quite a bitch to write a general-purpose algorithm for.

Bob

github.com/evankline/RubyTrees ? really basic one that probably doesn't do what you want

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

also, I'm pretty sure I would need multiple root nodes, unless I want to hack around that by having one "phantom" root that isn't an actual node, and the next level down is the actual root nodes.

@Bob that doesn't seem to be an actual polytree, because again, each node has one parent.

In mathematics, and more specifically in graph theory, a polytree (also known as oriented tree or singly connected network) is a directed acyclic graph whose underlying undirected graph is a tree. In other words, if we replace its arcs with edges, we obtain an undirected graph that is both connected and acyclic. A polytree is an example of oriented graph. The term polytree was coined in 1987 by Rebane and Pearl. == Related structures == Every directed tree (a directed acyclic graph in which there exists a single source node that has a unique path to every other node) is a polytree, but not every...

that is exactly how my data looks

except there is a possibility that a node from a higher level could have an arc to a node from a lower level

in that visual example from wikipedia, I could foresee a situation where node A could have an arc to, say, node F.

it makes the concept of "level" fairly difficult: if you take A as the parent of F, its level is 1 (if 0 is the top); if you take D as the parent of F, its level is 2!

but what I need to do is traverse the tree from the "bottom up": I need to navigate the nodes which are leaves, and then the next step up of dependencies, etc

in that example, I would need to visit the tree in this order: I, H, G, G, E, D, C, B, A (the order of visiting nodes on the same "level" in that example is not important, but it could be if a node has ambiguous level).

if a node has ambiguous level, I would want to take the maximum possible level obtained by calculating the level with respect to each parent... that way, I could traverse the tree by getting all the nodes at each "maxlevel" (where maxlevel returns the highest possible value of the traditional tree level by iterating through each parent of the node and recursively calling maxlevel) and visiting them in order of descending level.

huh. sounds like I just rubber ducked my way into a solution

Journeyman Geek

lol

quaoof

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

use RubyTree (not RubyTree**s**) with the n-ary tree algorithm, but implement a maxlevel algorithm for it, and keep track of the parents in the contents.

Jordan Richards

14:47

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Thanks, yeah, I found a version 5 for epel, it worked! :)

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:01

> it worked!

*gives himself +25 chat rep*

news.paywithisis.com/2014/07/07/isis-wallet-rebranding

Lol

Jordan Richards

crumbs

Trying to install node.js, but getting this error when doing ./config

File "./configure", line 453
o['default_configuration'] = 'Debug' if options.debug else 'Release'

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards that's not an error

what's the real error?

Jordan Richards

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

My bad, sorry.

I have no idea what is causing this error.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

you're probably running configure with dash

oh wait, CentOS

hmm...

what is the first line of configure?

that looks like Ruby o_o

Jordan Richards

uh

let me try to find it

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:08

"find" it? you can't use a text editor? try less

Jordan Richards

oh

#!/usr/bin/env python

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

lol

ok, so it's python that LOOKS like Ruby

well, that may explain it

python --version

Jordan Richards

Unknown option: --
Unknown option: -e
Unknown option: -r
Unknown option: -s
Unknown option: -o
Unknown option: -n
Unknown option: --
usage: python [option] ... [-c cmd | -m mod | file | -] [arg] ...
Try `python -h' for more information.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

... i just need to know what version your python executable is... so, try python -h like it says

That Brazilian Guy

O_o

> bash-4.2$ python --version
Python 2.7.5

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:11

@ThatBrazilianGuy rofl

That Brazilian Guy

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ...a bit of an extreme reaction

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm laughing at "Unknown option: -e, -r, etc" from above

especially because it worked for you

Jordan Richards

That's what I recieved.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards did you try python -h like I asked?

Jordan Richards

yes

That Brazilian Guy

15:12

@JordanRichards because you forgot an "i"

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

OH

thanks Ruda!

yeah. try python --version and spell version correctly

Jordan Richards

It still says unknown option. Sorry about the spelling btw.

Really strange.

ooh

python -V

Python 2.4.3

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

wow, that's an ancient version of python

that also explains why the configure script doesn't work for you

Jordan Richards

oh... of course!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

you need at least python 2.6 for that configure script

Jordan Richards

15:15

I tried to install 2.7 using wget etc

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

ideal would be python 2.7.x

Jordan Richards

but for some reason, it didn't replace 2.4

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards ...using wget? how does wget install python?

what exactly were you wgeting?

That Brazilian Guy

@JordanRichards try sudo yum install python

Jordan Richards

Package python-2.4.3-56.el5.i386 already installed and latest version

That Brazilian Guy

15:16

What CentOS version are you using?

Jordan Richards

CentOS 5

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

oh hey!

now that you have EPEL, you can install the python26 package

then you just have to symlink /usr/bin/python26 to /usr/bin/python, as root

then python -V should tell you python 2.6.something

That Brazilian Guy

I suppose you could temporarily enable a new repo, but then it could try to update other packages that maybe you don't want updated.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@ThatBrazilianGuy shh, don't try to help, noob :P (j/k)

he already has EPEL and EPEL already has python 2.6, which should suffice

Jordan Richards

I installed 2.7 but forgot to symlink, I think

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:18

just have to tell it to use the right python executable now

@JordanRichards you probably didn't pass --prefix=/usr, so it's probably installed in /usr/local

Jordan Richards

I used wget to download the tgz, then used ./config and make

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

although if it is installed in the correct path and there's a /usr/bin/python27 executable, you could simply edit the configure script :P

#!/usr/bin/env python27 would do it, if you actually have python27 installed as such -- but again, I have no idea, you need to actually understand WHAT you have installed, and WHERE

without understanding that I can't help you

Jordan Richards

I understand, been on putty all day and my brain is a mess. I'll take a look now

Okay, so in usr/bin there;s a python2.6 file with the type "FILE"

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

so you don't have a python2.7 or python27 of any sort? try which python27, and which python2.7

and try ls -la /usr/local/bin | grep python

Jordan Richards

ah

then in

user/local/bin there's a python2.7 file and a python2.7 config

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:22

figures

Jordan Richards

I apologize for giving you a hard time

I'll just google how to make it use python 2.7 instead of python2.4 now

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards you'll just get lost and end up following some guide for some other thing; let me help you. you need to run export PYTHON=/usr/local/bin/python2.7

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Thanks!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

you may also have to run ln -sf /usr/local/bin/python2.7-config /usr/bin/python-config

then try your ./configure script again

Jordan Richards

Crumbs

python --version won't work after doing that and the same for the config

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:26

just use python -V

Jordan Richards

Yeah, still says 2.4

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

oh, right, of course

Jordan Richards

haha

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

ok, let's just be destructive then: ln -sf /usr/local/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python

because seriously, fuck python 2.4

Jordan Richards

YES

Python2.7.2

Thanks SO much!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:28

doesn't mean it's gonna work

Jordan Richards

now lets try the configire

configure*

Whoop!

It works!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

(so far)

and don't ever do ` ./configure` without adding --prefix=/usr, unless you explicitly want to do a parallel install that doesn't overwrite existing installs

/usr/local/bin isn't in your PATH on CentOS5, so you'll be confused as to why node gives you command not found

Jordan Richards

ooohh

Oh dear

Guess what I did.

can I just overwrite by doing ./configure --prefix=/usr ?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

yes, you can re-run configure

Jordan Richards

Thanks so much.

I am such a newbie.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:33

I'm trying -- hard -- to not be mean :P at least you didn't go to The Comms Room; they'd eat you alive in there

my eyes are just rolling into the back of my head, that's all :P

Jordan Richards

I bet!

How long have you been doing this?

I'm 16, just started this year.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards "this"? I've been a GNU/Linux hacker since you were 2 years old

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Oh okay, that explains it ^^

That Brazilian Guy

@JordanRichards There's nothing detrimental in being a beginner. You're trying to do it the right way and willing to research, so you're not a help vampire. :P

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html

that definition of hacker, not the other

@ThatBrazilianGuy I agree with you on this

Jordan Richards

15:36

I am strictly a web designer, but I figured it would be a benefit to learn how to use linux-based systems.

That Brazilian Guy

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ OMG A HACKER HE CAN BLOW UP STREETLAMPS USING A CELLPHONE!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards on the one hand, it gets old doing the same reeducation for many people over a long period of time, but on the other hand, it took me a number of years to reach the point where I no longer had to ask "noob questions" because I knew how to find the resources I need on my own

so I can kind of understand

@JordanRichards in reality, I "ask" something like 100 questions a day, of a similar nature to yours -- the only difference is, in 99% of the cases, I answer them without actually asking a human being to manually answer... I "ask" various reference sites, google, stackoverflow, API docs, etc.

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Well said. I always try to research before I go to boards/chat rooms. But sometimes I just get brain fog and I don't ask the question the "correct" way.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

it's not that I know everything, just that I know how to find the things I don't know

Jordan Richards

Yes, that is a very good skill to have. With html/css/javascript/php I do that

That Brazilian Guy

15:40

@JordanRichards Unfortunately, sometimes to ask the correct question, the level of understanding needed is beyond the one we possess.

Jordan Richards

It's like, I just got this error now.. I pasted it into google and got no results.

ImportError: No module named bz2
make[1]: *** [/root/node/out/Release/obj/gen/libraries.cc] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/node/out'
make: *** [node] Error 2

I have no idea what any of that means. ^^

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

you can't paste the entire error

you need to google the essence of the problem

the lines starting with make are complete red herrings

That Brazilian Guy

Well, just look at the first line: "no module named bz2". So you need a module named bz2. Not sure if it is a CentOS package, a node module, or whatever, but I'd start from there.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

ImportError is too vague, too

the actual problem is this: No module named bz2

if you google that, I guarantee you'll get good results

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Why thank you!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:43

grab the bzip2-devel package (with yum), for starters

if it actually installs something, that may well be the fix

Jordan Richards

ohhh dear No module named yum

o.o

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

..............

what command did you run?

oh. right. yum uses Python.

Jordan Richards

There was a problem importing one of the Python modules
required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

oohh

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

FUCK.......

thinking how to bail you out of this.

Jordan Richards

Crumbs!

Bob

15:45

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Might as well grab python27

Jordan Richards

@Bob Yeah, I have that ^^

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob there's no python27 in EPEL5.

Bob

... -_-

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

he installed python27 with (literally) ./configure (no --prefix=/usr).

and I asked him to install python26 with yum install python26, but I don't know if he did that

Jordan Richards

If I type in python --version, it returns Python 2.7.22

2*

Bob

15:46

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ LOL

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

I made the bad judgment call of having him ln -sf /usr/local/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python, so his /usr/bin/python from 2.4 is gone. :S

fuck.

is it just a symlink? please say it's a symlink

does /usr/bin/python2.4 exist?

Jordan Richards

let me see

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Does COS 5 set it up as a symlink?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob I fucking hope so

Bob

@JordanRichards ls -l /usr/bin/python*

Jordan Richards

15:48

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jul 23 19:27 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/local/bin/pytho n2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Oct 8 2013 /usr/bin/python2 -> python
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3480 Jan 9 2013 /usr/bin/python2.4
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 3480 Nov 7 2012 /usr/bin/python26
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 3480 Nov 7 2012 /usr/bin/python2.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Jul 23 19:25 /usr/bin/python-config -> /usr/local/bi

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

!!yes

ChatBot John Cavil

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ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

ln -sf /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/python

then you're back in business, as far as yum

...but this will, again, break configure

Jordan Richards

Yeah, yum is back in business

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Just run configure by python27 configure ?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:49

@Bob yeah, I tried to get him to edit configure to change the hash-bang, but he didn't follow up on that

but what you suggested is better, except that it's python2.7, not python27

and /usr/local/bin isn't in PATH on CentOS 5

Canadian Luke

Morning all

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

so: /usr/local/bin/python2.7 configure --prefix=/usr -- try that one

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ eh, I'm a Debian (derivative) user :P

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob it shows. your fur is red (so beautiful......) and striped in a spiralling red pattern like the Debian logo :-)

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Nice! No errors so far

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:51

do a yum install bzip2-devel if you haven't yet.

may help with the bz2 import error

Jordan Richards

okay

now for the moment of truth

jokerdino

Any R programmers? @allq?

ChatBot John Cavil

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@jokerdino I've done about as much R as @JordanRichards has done Python.

read up and you'll see the analogy

Jordan Richards

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Oh crumbs, I need to use python7 with the make and install

jokerdino

15:52

ah, thanks.

Bob

Heh. The only reason I even know R exists is Programming Puzzles & Code Golf

Jordan Richards

python2.7*

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards you do? oh, if they call python...

what's echo $PYTHON return?

jokerdino

@Bob lolol

Bob

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I wonder if it's possible to present a fake symlink

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

15:53

how about /usr/local/bin/python2.7 configure --help | grep python ?

Jordan Richards

/usr/local/bin/python2.7

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob there may be a --with-python parameter to configure. I'm hoping.

jokerdino

weirdly enough, at the exact moment allq said that, I figured my problem XD

Jordan Richards

The configure worked, it's just the make and install

servermom.org/quickest-way-install-node-js-centos/1159

I'm following this

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob I used it a bit at an internship. we were trying to statistically model a defect we observed sporadically with the ringtone playing with a delay.

it was 2008. we were developing ACCESS Linux Platform. we had dev handsets from Samsung. when incoming call, the ring would delay sometimes, and sometimes not. and the amount of delay would vary. and nobody had a clue as to what was going on

so, off to R we went. (R was another guy's idea)

stopwatch. place call. watch UI pop up. time delay. record datapoints.

then model it using this guy's R code

Bob

15:56

@JordanRichards Any chance you can use CentOS 6 (or 6.5) instead? Or any other modern OS?

Jordan Richards

@Bob I'm afraid not right now, but it is in my future plans.

is there a way to use make and install with python2.7?

Oooo

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

turns out that updating the on-screen clock (GTK2 and X11... don't ask) created such a bubble in the Linux scheduler (42 levels of function calls in the C call stack of the launcher process) that the audio player reading the ringtone from NAND ended up getting preempted a lot whenever the minute was being changed on the clock....

Bob

@JordanRichards can you just download the node binary distribution?

Jordan Richards

Maybe, now that the import package I needed is installed, I could try that command again to "break yum" temp

then fix yum again

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JordanRichards true, you could, by ln -sf /usr/local/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python

this'll fix yum again:

Bob

15:58

nodejs.org/download

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

10 mins ago, by ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

ln -sf /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/python

Bob

There's official binary distributions for Linux.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob if it's not statically linked, it probably depends on a version of glibc that's too new for CentOS 5

Jordan Richards

Oh crumbs, still get the import bz2 error

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

just going from experience: the glibc ABI broke after CentOS 5.

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