Root Access

allquixotic

14:11

@JANORTS the JDK is supposed to be backwards compatible, so yes

@Bob there was no tornado, but there was vivid lightning and hail for much of the night. not sure if our roof got damaged. the National Weather Service said quarter-sized hail

last time we got belted with hail we had to get a new roof installed (though, it was covered by insurance :D)

HackToHell

@jokerdino I am using it as the base

jokerdino

Yay.

HackToHell

Stupid Qt is still downloading :/

jokerdino

Oh.

HackToHell

I accidentally downloaded the 32 bt version

Had to start over :/

allquixotic

14:14

lol why are you sillies using Qt Quick... that shiz is lame

use WPF. it's the best GUI framework today :D

unless you need cross platform. then, shit.

HackToHell

I'll try and finish the basic UI tonight

@allquixotic Isn't that too XML based

I think I did a course on it

allquixotic

@HackToHell you can write WPF using XAML (kind of vaguely related to XML) with code behind, or you can write it purely in code

but the way the UI scales etc is quite awesome

too bad Mono has no plans to implement it ;x

HackToHell

or you could use Blend right ?

jokerdino

It's cross platform oi.

allquixotic

dafucque is Blend

jokerdino

14:15

Blender?

allquixotic

meh. cross platform, use SWT :P

jokerdino

No java!

allquixotic

SWT with another programming language? :P

HackToHell

Blend is waaay better than Quick Qt

jokerdino

Going with JS pls.

allquixotic

14:16

dsource.org/projects/dwt

heeheehee

if you call SWT "swit", then you call DWT "dwit" :D

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: SWT rarely looks native ;p

HackToHell

Microsoft Expression Blend ?

Journeyman Geek

If they had a TWT...

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek rofl

TCL+SWT = TWT

HackToHell

Damn Blend has sooo many tools ;p

allquixotic

14:17

?

HackToHell

!! wiki microsoft blend

ChatBot John Cavil

Microsoft Blend

Microsoft Blend for Visual Studio (formerly Microsoft Expression Blend) is a user interface design tool developed and sold by Microsoft for creating graphical interfaces for web and desktop applications that blend the features of these two types of applications. It is an interactive, WYSIWYG front-end for designing XAML-based interfaces for Windows Presentation Foundation and Silverlight applications. It was one of the applications in the Microsoft Expression Studio suite before that suite was discontinued. Expression Blend supports the WPF text engine with advanced OpenType typography a...

allquixotic

actually have you guys checked out Tk lately? Tk::Tile is quite modern looking, even if Tk itself has existed since before most of you were born

tkdocs.com/tutorial/windows.html#dialogs

HackToHell

@allquixotic Does Qt Creator crash often for you ?

allquixotic

@HackToHell no, but I haven't used it in ages

jokerdino

14:19

Qt5 creator is definitely better.

HackToHell

It doesn't even start with the latest kernel

I have to use an old kernel for it work :/

jokerdino

Better than its previous version that is.

HackToHell

@jokerdino Blend is better ;p

allquixotic

waitwaitwait, what does Qt Creator have to do with your kernel version?

HackToHell

But hey open source

allquixotic

14:19

why in god's name would that have any impact on it?

HackToHell

@allquixotic No fucking idea

It segfaults on the newer kernel

allquixotic

@HackToHell ew. debug mode and backtrace plz? if it's crashing in the kernel, I'll bet you a dollar (or 10 rupees) that it's due to the graphics driver

HackToHell

Mar 30 at 5:21, by HackToHell

It works in the 3.2 kernel o_0

@allquixotic I have no idea how to do that ;p

Any tutorial ? ;p

@allquixotic 60 INR not 10

allquixotic

@HackToHell compile QtCreator and Qt with debugging symbols on, then gdb qtcreator then start then c then bt full

jokerdino

lol

HackToHell

14:23

compile :O

QtCreator is 400 MB compiled

allquixotic

cmon, you should know how to ./configure this shit

HackToHell

The source is probably .... huge

allquixotic

it's not autotools but it's a configure wrapper around qmake

HackToHell

@allquixotic That's not the problem

It's the download size

allquixotic

the source is tiny compared to the binary size

compressed, that is

HackToHell

14:24

lemme check

jokerdino

Stop distracting our dev pls.

allquixotic

> dev

> compile :O

HackToHell

Me ? dev ?

allquixotic

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

jokerdino

14:25

@HackToHell yes.

HackToHell

zzz That's out of context

Cheating @allq

allquixotic

@jokerdino no.

4 mins ago, by HackToHell

@allquixotic I have no idea how to do that ;p

nottadev if you don't know how to gdb and get a backtrace

jokerdino

@allquixotic come on. Then he'll start quoting xkcd #303 and do nothing.

allquixotic

!!xkcd 303

ChatBot John Cavil

'Are you stealing those LCDs?' 'Yeah, but I'm doing it while my code compiles.'

HackToHell

14:26

@allquixotic I know Windows stuff !

I don't know much about Linux :/

allquixotic

@HackToHell that's good. then you are a Developer. a Developer is not a dev. a dev uses root on GNU/Linux to dev stuff. a Developer uses Microsoft Visual Studio as Administrator on Windows to Develop stuff.

Dim HackToHell As New WindowsDeveloper

linuxdev_t *hth = malloc(sizeof(linuxdev_t));

►

you don't hear him saying "devs! devs! devs! devs!" do you?

Bob

@allquixotic ouch

@allquixotic I never really got into WPF :\

HackToHell

@allquixotic I see

Bob

@allquixotic ...sounds like VS2013 preventing the 8.1 upgrade :S

"in what way are the two related??"

allquixotic

@Bob apparently kernels and development environments like to have interesting interactions

too bad VS2013 doesn't cause a :(

that'd just be funny

Bob

14:37

!!tell 16164412 no

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

@allquixotic it did completely lock it up

interrupts still working (cursor movement, capslock light) but nothing else

which is pretty bizzare

allquixotic

@Bob really bizarre. could've been a deadlock within a particular subsystem that didn't break interrupts or the main kernel lock tho

disk subsystem? graphics?

these days I think of graphics right away. as I said, it's a whole separate OS of its own, and often very buggy

Bob

@allquixotic I was considering disk, considering how crappy the HDD on this laptop is

allquixotic

1. Notice that there is a problem with the computer
2. Suspect graphics driver
3. Rule out possibility of graphics driver OR confirm that it definitely is graphics driver
4. Look into other possibilities

Bob

14:45

disk light was off though (I was using that to see if it was doing something, considering the installation is pretty heavy on the disk)

HackToHell

lol torrentfreak.com/…

Bob

@allquixotic there is a slight possibility of graphics, but again: VS2013 & 8.1 upgrade, how the heck is that related to graphics?

allquixotic

@Bob 8.1 deploys new version of WDDM? :P VS2013 uses WPF? :P I dunno.

Bob

and the drivers aren't upgraded till a much later stage (post-restart), I think

@allquixotic this is in the pre-restart "gathering info"/"checking compatibility" stage

allquixotic

or it could be one of the billions of components VS2013 installs

Bob

14:46

the running system shouldn't be modified until the restart

allquixotic

could even be the SQL Server Express or w/e

Bob

@allquixotic But I still have VS2010 and 2012 installed

it's just 2013 O_O

allquixotic

@Bob with different, independent versions of the components

:P

Bob

Yes, but the chance of it interacting in just that way...

allquixotic

:D

well it happened, we can speculate on why

Bob

14:47

I don't even want to know what it's doing for the possibility of that bug.

allquixotic

it's closed source :P

Bob

@allquixotic too late to test, though, I uninstalled VS, upgraded and reinstalled it

probably should add a post to that forum to help others... or start a new SU question

hm, I wonder if I can replicate in a VM

problem is, I'm gonna need a valid 8 key that allows the upgrade, and another bloody 3.5GB download

maybe spin up a VM on the dedi and VNC into that, at least that'll save some download time

allquixotic

@Bob even if you can repro it, so what? where would you report the bug that the proper folks at Microsoft would look at it (and care, and fix it)?

MS doesn't have a bugzilla. :P

Bob

@allquixotic connect.microsoft.com

:P

allquixotic

O_O

Bob

15:01

XD

They aren't accepting bug reports for Windows, though.

VS, yes.

Which'll probably get rejected as a Windows bug, bleh.

allquixotic

'course it would :P

connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/details/899744/…

> I would upgrade the site's code and see if your issue is resolved then.

yeah, let me get right on that. o wait, I don't work for IGN.

I wonder if the ~~RHEL7~~ Fedora 19 with bugfixes, a 3.10 kernel and a bunch of kernel backports has a good desktop environment :P

Bob

@allquixotic It's still a reasonable response, though.

Sorta :P

Unless someone wants to provide more information on what exactly is failing.

Also, that's not an official MS response.

allquixotic

I REALLY want CentOS 7 to go final release ASAP

and then... SP-64 from OVH :O :O

Bob

@allquixotic You're going ahead with that?

allquixotic

@Bob perhaps

I think there are real savings to be had with super high spec systems being "split" between two responsible, cooperating admins... maybe we could even get a higher spec one and split the cost depending on how much we can afford

I can afford between $100 and $150 USD per month on my own

if you could match, we could get a $200 per month box, which would be a bit better than the SP-64

on second thought... :P

okay.png

ChatBot John Cavil

15:10

Bob

@allquixotic I already think I'm paying too much for how little I use my current one :P

allquixotic

> Help your site go faster with the OVH CDN !

> 504 OVH CDN is broken

!! s/CDN/backend, I guess, since the CDN seems to be up and just not serving anything/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic 504 OVH backend, I guess, since the CDN seems to be up and just not serving anything is broken (source)

Bob

I've actually considered downgrading, but my current deal with 48 GB of RAM in this price range is really hard to find, so I'm just hanging onto it :P

Journeyman Geek

boingboing.net/2014/06/18/status-dogs.html ;p

2

(I love 451 ;p. Westies are proper rebel dogs ;p)

Bob

15:17

pcadvisor.co.uk/news/mobile-phone/3510108/…

Windows Phone is looking better and better :P

allquixotic

!!tell 16165523 no

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

main problem with Windows Phone is that almost all the devices they build for are super low-end, or at the absolute flagship level they're mediocre hardware compared to what Apple and Android manufs are doing

they won't reach S5 level hardware til 2016 probably

also the dearth of apps

HackToHell

@Bob It sucks :P

Bob

@allquixotic I said it's looking better, not necessarily the best option yet.

HackToHell

15:20

As a primary phone

Bob

And, hey, my L520 can do things my S5 can't.

Journeyman Geek

For some reason I parsed the L520 as a server

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You're spending too much time in the comms room :P

hypocrite that I am

Journeyman Geek

;p

Canadian Luke

15:38

Morning all

allquixotic

> Morning all

> clientsfromhell.net/somepost

waiting for it

Canadian Luke

Oh yea, I haven't checked that for a few days... Thanks @allquixotic

Actually, I was reading though tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324

HackToHell

Oh well xda-developers.com/android/…

Looks like Google migrated the Dalvik virtual machine team to ART.

allquixotic

15:54

@HackToHell hey, that's a good thing!

ART is better at stuff, it just needs to be polished up a bit

@CanadianLuke that's obsolete. you need to update to RFC 7168.

HackToHell

@allquixotic I didn't say I wasn't ;p

Ash

is this bad ??

Canadian Luke

@allquixotic Updated,t hanks!

Oliver Salzburg

@Ash Kinda

Assuming you want those packages

Ash

:)

Bob

16:07

3

Oliver Salzburg

npm registry can be a bit weird sometimes. I'd just retry

Mokubai

16:31

Heya peeps

Canadian Luke

Sup?

Hmmm... Three blues don't make a white, after all...

clientsfromhell.net/post/89255243855/… + the links it leads to...

Bob

@allquixotic Your prediction has come to pass :P

Canadian Luke

Only an hour later... ;)

Gotta admit, I do post good stuff though

allquixotic

@Bob ;-D

Arsalan

Hey,

Im stressing the hell out,

Canadian Luke

16:38

@Arsalan Instead of stressing, take a deep breath

Arsalan

@CanadianLuke Cannot,

Do you guys have experiance with wordpress?

I was devloping a site in wordpress all is going and i decied to do a reinstall now, i cant seem to slove this error "Download failed.: Destination directory for file streaming does not exist or is not writable." i ve checked owner of the dir and the chmod is correct but still it giving me that error.

Canadian Luke

Who is the owner?

Arsalan

a localuser,

Canadian Luke

What local user?

Arsalan

i ve got multiple sites on this machine and they all configured this way, they are all working

Canadian Luke

16:41

Oh, a multi-site server

Alright

What user are you using to FTP within Wordpress?

Arsalan

but this one isn't, it was working perfectly in the morning

Canadian Luke

Does that user have write access? Or is it in the group to have write access?

Arsalan

Same user, got a vsftpd running

yeah,

Canadian Luke

And you can create a file, edit it, then delete it?

Arsalan

using filezilla i can,

but wordpress won't.

Oliver Salzburg

16:43

This syntax highlighting is seriously wtf youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WEB-12510

Well, so is the code, but still :P

Arsalan

so i just changed to apache user and its working, so why isn't working with a local user?

Canadian Luke

Is the sticky bit set? (I'm assuming this is on Linux)

Arsalan

huh?

Yeah Im running Centos

can i do chown site2:apache htdocs?

apache being the group?

Canadian Luke

Where is each site hosted? Do they have their own directory with your htdocs folder?

Arsalan

Its a Dedicated Server,

I made a new user for each site.

within each user /home/site1/htdocs, /home/site2/htdocs, etc

Canadian Luke

16:49

OK, and only site2 would use files in the htdocs folder, and below? No other site needs access to it?

Arsalan

nope

The site is working perfectly when i apache owns the htdocs.

Canadian Luke

OK, just for testing, try chown -R :apache htdocs/*. The -R does recursive. Let's not change the user yet

Arsalan

ok

yep, no error install plugin,

so yeah its working with the apache group

Canadian Luke

So it's likely that the sticky bit isn't enabled. Do you know what that is, or would you like a quick explanation?

Arsalan

quick explanintion please

sorry ive gotten a job a web devloper and been learning linux since i was like 16 and im 21 so ive missed some bits.

Canadian Luke

17:00

That's how you learn, messing up

The sticky bit is an extra permission (with chmod) that makes it so the owner and group stays the same on the folder, and everything below it. Useful with shared folders with multiple users accessing it

Arsalan

thanks a lot.

Canadian Luke

You can set it by using a 2 in front of the usual 3-digit octal code (i.e. chmod -R 2770 /path/to/folder lets the owner and group access and do anythign with the files, inside the folder, and newly created files as well)

No problem! Good luck

Arsalan

ah right

Canadian Luke

Let's just say... I've run into it before

And it's down again... Fuck

Arsalan

its up for me? that site

Canadian Luke

17:04

Oh great, so it's my work blocking it... OK

I get my favicon loading, but I assume that's cache...

Leathe

(psst. Steam Summer sales just started)

Arsalan

I use a vpn when im devloping

I ssh into my box and use a sock proxy and be incognito to check.

Canadian Luke

I can do that, but I shouldn't have to

One minute

Well, WTF... Now it works!

Why is my employer blocking it?

Arsalan

hha, what was wrong?

Canadian Luke

Not a clue... I don't even get hits when checking the log on the proxy server

Arsalan

17:11

hmm, are you sure its not just serving you a cached version?

Canadian Luke

It would show up in my logs (using Squid on the gateway)

Arsalan

sudo squid -z

it will regenerate the cahace, anyways i finish work now, cya

Canadian Luke

See ya!

Mokubai

I love that the way to tell if someone is cross-site spamming is via google: google.co.uk/…

HackToHell

17:27

Looks Like Steam has started it's summer sale

allquixotic

17:39

!! s/'//

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic Looks Like Steam has started its summer sale (source)

Ash

I was trying to build atom for my linux box and I ran out of space in /tmp directory . build was successful , though , I wasn't able to complete creating .deb package.
How to backup everything from /tmp ? I dont want to leave anything out (some special files).

`ash@mimas:~/development/atom$ sudo script/grunt mkdeb
Running "mkdeb" task
>> mktemp: failed to create directory via template `/tmp/tmp.XXXXXXXXXX': No space left on device
Aborted due to warnings.
`

Oliver Salzburg

wtf... dialog leads to file-dialog leads to open-file-dialog Who creates these tags?

jokerdino

dialogues

Ash

would rsync -AX suffice ?

allquixotic

18:11

2

not even a star? :'(

tough crowd.

softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/help/badges/11/taxonomist

Canadian Luke

G4U :)

jokerdino

@allquixotic Here. Have one.

0

Q: notifications after deactivation of twitter

While stalking, I accidentally followed someone on twitter, and unfollowed them right after. I also changed all my info right after, blocked the person, and deactivated my account. Will my "follow" and my original username still appear on their notifications tab?

twitter

> While stalking, I accidentally followed someone on twitter

2

Boris_yo

Why can't we be friends?

jokerdino

There are no friends in Twitter.

Boris_yo

►

jokerdino

18:23

Only those who stalk and those who get stalked.

Canadian Luke

0

Q: GUI tool for Windows computers to administer SAMBA

I have a few SAMBA v3 servers on my network that I constantly need to remote into with SSH to change settings. I know that for SAMBA v4 (which we are not upgrading to for a while), you can use the Windows Server Remote Administration Tools to administer it, but you can't for SAMBA v3. What I nee...

gratis windows-7 samba

Just to, you know, get the topic happy again

Oliver Salzburg

19:15

@allquixotic wtf O_O

allquixotic

:16170829 'Displays a file dialog with the supplied filter, default extension, dialog title, and save/open style.
'filt: A filter of the form "label|extension|label|extension|..." where label is text user sees and extension is *.something
'def: The file extension to add to a save dialog if the user doesn't supply any extension on their own. Omit the period.
'title: The dialog box title to display to the user.
'save: A boolean value (true or false) - if true, display a save dialog. If false, display an open dialog.

Oliver Salzburg

You even wrote it in VB? O_____O

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg i already had that code except for the last line

Ash

19:38

is this it ??

atom ??

wtf ?

allquixotic

20:12

grc.com/smgassembly.htm

> The file is 20k . . . Sorry it's so big, but I included all of the source code and header files, as well as a copy of the finished SIB.EXE so you could see the result even if you didn't have the other required assembly tools!

SIB.ZIP (20k) -- This zip file contains all of the files necessary to assemble a state of the art 32-bit Windows Application ... written in nothing but assembly language (it also contains the executable SIB.EXE app so that you can see what it looks like and browse the files even if you don't own a copy of Microsoft's Macro Assembler, MASM, or Linker). The App inclu…

Psycogeek

20:23

@allquixotic but does it connect to the cloud twitter and facebook?

Michael Frank

@HackToHell Of course it's free.

Michael Frank

20:47

1

A: OCR for numbers with gray noisy background

First you must tweak those images. I recommend a batch tool like XNViewMP which is free and multiplatform. It has a file explorer. Select all your images, then go to Tools - Batch convert. Add actions like I did: Here are my actions: HLS - make it grayscale Levels - lower black level a bit ...

Fantastic answer!

Michael Frank

22:34

So apparently my company has it's own song...

►

AJ Henderson

23:41

for the record, Windows 7 RTM gets very VERY unhappy when .Net 4.5.1 is installed

and apparently Microsoft's own clean up tools don't notice 4.5.1 is installed if you are on 7RTM

allquixotic

@AJHenderson I'm surprised 4.5.1 will even install on Windows 7 RTM. unpatched versions of Windows are unsupported (IIRC)

AJ Henderson

it won't

I had a freaky situation of upgrading from Vista SP2

to 7RTM

allquixotic

ah. interesting corner case

AJ Henderson

so I have some really bizarre incompatible upgrades installed

allquixotic

Windows 7 RTM, Windows 8 RTM, Windows 8.1 pre-Update1, etc. are "unsupported software" AFAIK, and that probably includes upgrading to them

AJ Henderson

23:43

yeah

sadly, I only had a Windows 7 install disk handy

allquixotic

they really need to make their images publicly available -- you still have to activate Windows to make use of it, and the pirates will strip the activation away anyway, so there's really no reason not to have like download.microsoft.com/windows/images/8.1/…

AJ Henderson

suppose I should probably report to MS that the cleanup utility should probably support removing 4.5.1 on Windows 7RTM

I might consider picking MAPS back up

allquixotic

the installation ISOs should come with the service packs and windows updates already installed into the image

AJ Henderson

now that I finally bit the bullet and moved to 7. Though may still not be worth it unless they fix the mess that is metro

allquixotic

@AJHenderson MAPS?

AJ Henderson

23:46

Microsoft Action Pack

allquixotic

@AJHenderson the "fix" for Metro is easy: disable it :D and it's on sale

AJ Henderson

$350 a year, 10 licenses of Windows, Office, AV, etc as well as 10 user licenses for most of the servers

allquixotic

huh, didn't know that existed

AJ Henderson

you have to be a business, but if you are a developer that does occasional consulting, then you can qualify

allquixotic

if it doesn't come with Visual Studio, not really worth it for me

i have perpetual licenses of Windows and Office

AJ Henderson

23:47

there is a version that does, but it costs a bit more

Bob

@allquixotic on sale?

hasn't it always been $5?

AJ Henderson

but you also get early access to stuff. I had Windows 7 and Windows 8 both about a month early

pretty much as soon as they ship the RTM image for reproducing media, it gets released to partners

and MAPS is associated with the partner program

well that's new

for a while now my Display Port output hasn't worked

after upgrading it started working again

well, as soon as .Net 4.5 finished installing, DisplayPort stopped again

wtf?

guess maybe it is something corrupted with catalyst control center since that requires .Net 4.5

Bob

9 hours ago, by allquixotic

these days I think of graphics right away. as I said, it's a whole separate OS of its own, and often very buggy

9 hours ago, by allquixotic

1. Notice that there is a problem with the computer
2. Suspect graphics driver
3. Rule out possibility of graphics driver OR confirm that it definitely is graphics driver
4. Look into other possibilities

@allquixotic ^ :P

Incidentally, the WDDM1.3 update for the Intel drivers on my laptop changed its control panel.

Now it follows the MUI design philosophy: looks clean, while removing any options that are even slightly "advanced".

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