Root Access

Canadian Luke

01:13

For some reason, the CSS is completely missing from ONLY this chat room... Fucking Mac!

If after clearing cache on Firefox, it still doesn't fix it... What more should I look into?

Bob

so, apparently return point.equals(this.pointA) ? this.pointB : this.pointA; isn't clear because it's using a ternary instead of a "proper control structure".

...

allquixotic

@Bob professor?

Bob

@allquixotic student tutor

the only reason I'm going through this course is for the degree anyway :\

At the very least, they aren't anal about only a single return. That would be painful:

Point otherEndpoint = null;
if (point.equals(this.pointA)) {
    otherEndpoint = this.pointB;
} else {
    otherEndpoint = this.pointA;
}
return otherEndpoint;

I wouldn't consider that one more readable at all.

Journeyman Geek

01:43

@Bob: For undergrad level? Easier to mark if everyone submits vaguely the same thing ;p

twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity snort

Michael Frank

@CanadianLuke Tried that overly complicated command to clear the DNS?

Canadian Luke

In about:config?

Michael Frank

No, in Terminal.

Canadian Luke

Nope!

Michael Frank

support.apple.com/kb/ht5343

Canadian Luke

01:53

NO change :(

HackToHell

@jokerdino Whenever you are ready! Qt-creator is alive and kicking !

Michael Frank

@CanadianLuke :/

HackToHell

I'll draw up the base UI by noon today and then we will tweak it until it's what we want.

Michael Frank

Are "What is inside my monitor?" questions on-topic for SU?

-2

Q: What's inside a computer monitor and how does the displaying of information actually work?

If I we're to lay out the pieces of a LCD LED monitor what would I get? I plan on buying the cheapest one to take apart, but I'd rather know in advance. What I believe to know in order the data is transferred through parts including the source (correct me if I'm wrong): (a) computer video port ...

Journeyman Geek

02:18

Feel free to VTC it ;p

Its marginal, but I don't really feel like close-hammering it in my condition

Michael Frank

I flagged it as 'too broad'. What he wants as an answer would be too long.

Bob

Currently trying the 8.1 update again, and I'm this close to a laptop flying out the window.

Journeyman Geek

also, lack of research. And he's being stupid ;p

Panel, inverter CRT LED models, control board, great big board for everything ;p

"Converts the signal to illuminate the panel"

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

Journeyman Geek

unless its OLED

Bob

02:24

@JourneymanGeek Never seen you use that before :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I've used it before ;p

ugh, why does my switch not have screw mounts

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Which one?

Journeyman Geek

I can't remember

Bob

-_-

Michael Frank

@Bob Sounds like fun!

Journeyman Geek

02:30

boingboing.net/2014/06/18/…

Bob

@MichaelFrank So much rage.

Currently uninstalling VS2013.

Why? Hell if I know!

Then there's this fucking joker: answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/…

> I got my problem with this solved. Had to uninstall a couple of programs that were interfering with the upgrade process.

After that, it worked fine.

Yes? What exactly did you do? What did you uninstall?

Fucking arsehole.

allquixotic

Imagine if a CPU manufacturer trying to sell faster processors owned an antivirus firm whose products require a faster processor.

Tweeted by SwiftOnSecurity on June 18, 2014 at 1:24 AM

Intel? :O

Bob

Almost like that xkcd except infinitely more rage-inducing.

Michael Frank

@Bob Wait... so the accepted answer is that someone else is having the same problem?!

allquixotic

@Bob was just thinking of that :P

Bob

02:34

@MichaelFrank It's MS Answers. Marginally better than Yahoo Answers. Sometimes.

Michael Frank

have you tried likelyanswer.com? :P

Bob

No?

Is it going to make me smash something?

Michael Frank

...

Bob

argh

now the MS Store is convinced that "updates were installed"

who the fuck designed this process

I got further last time

Michael Frank

"How do you find the answer you are looking for when there are billions of answers on the internet?
Most search engines use indirect measurements like backlinks and keywords to return websites, but never make sure that their results actually answer your question.
Our LikelyAnswer search engine uses Artificial Intelligence to give you the most likely answers to any question!"

Bob

02:36

@MichaelFrank "uses Artificial Intelligence" => "we like using big marketing words"

"Something happened and your installation of Windows 8.1 couldn't be completed."

WELL FUCK YOU TOO

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg hahaha

Bob

02:56

...are you shitting me

it's doing a 3.5 GB download again?

Michael Frank

@Bob Sounds accurate.

allquixotic

03:56

@MichaelFrank I forgot to tell you, I played two viewer matches on the stream of TheBlueMuzzy :D :D :D

won one, lost one.

his viewer matches have custom rules

the first one, I played Marah in ARAB mode and carried the team (stats above ^)

Michael Frank

04:09

Nice!

Yea, I played a game lastnight as Desecrator and carried my team... we still lost :(

Bob

time to try KSP again :D I really need to get around to some mods sometime

Michael Frank

wow, is his steam really stuttering that much?

Bob

would really help if downloading 8.1 didn't kill latency for any online games

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank yeah :( it usually doesn't

something hosed on his box i think

Bob

TIL doskey

allquixotic

04:15

PowerShell doskey, and...

DOSKEY

DOSKEY is a utility for DOS and Microsoft Windows that adds command history, macro functionality, and improved editing features to the command line interpreters COMMAND.COM and CMD.EXE. It was included as a TSR program with MS-DOS and PC DOS versions 5 and later, Windows 9x and Windows XP or later. In early 1989 functionality similar to DOSKEY was introduced with DR-DOS 3.40 with its HISTORY CONFIG.SYS directive. This enabled a user-configurable console input history buffer and recall as well as pattern search functionality on console driver level, that is, fully integrated into the...

Bob

> Your PC needs to restart

YAY

that's a step further

now let's see if it dies where it did last time (ralink...) or gets further

allquixotic

ralink ):

Bob

by the way, @allquixotic, this means I probably won't be getting the SP3

maybe when the SP4 comes out, either 3 will be cheap or 4 will be better (and maybe Win9), so... not necessarily a bad thing :)

Michael Frank

@allquixotic going to play a game now if you're keen!

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank too tired :/

@Bob well, good. save the money :)

Michael Frank

04:21

ok!

allquixotic

I think if I am going to act frugally the best thing I can do is wait until 20nm GPUs and 14nm CPUs land, then buy a 13-14" laptop with a discrete GPU and all the features

Bob

@allquixotic were you going to skip this one?

heh, back to full-size laptops?

allquixotic

@Bob 15"+ is full-size :P

Bob

I'd stick with desktops for anything GPU-intensive

allquixotic

you can still squeeze a discrete GPU into 13-14"

Bob

04:22

much more power, and better cooling

allquixotic

eh, but state of the art laptop GPU stuff can be great

Bob

mobile CPUs have more or less caught up for most purposes, but GPUs are still a world apart

allquixotic

sucks on battery but when plugged it's good

Bob

@allquixotic generally expensive and rather immobile though

can't really get enough airflow through a thin 13" laptop

hm. stayputnik or okto? :P

allquixotic

GeForce GT 730M? hmm

HackToHell

04:29

@jokerdino qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquickcontrols-index.html yay ! Now I'll have to download Qt 5.3 :/

It will make the project simpler ;p

allquixotic

alienware has GeForce GTX 765M in a 14" laptop

definitely not buying a current-gen 22nm CPU / 28nm GPU laptop, but once the next die shrink hits, I'll more seriously consider upgrading to a 14"

Bob

@allquixotic Or wait till Intel gets more serious with their GPUs? :P

allquixotic

@Bob to accomplish that, they'd have to either run much faster RAM in the system overall (DDR4?) or lay even more eDRAM on the proc die

also their drivers aren't nearly as optimized as AMD or Nvidia's

AJ Henderson

why is it that invariably when one computer breaks, your other computer starts having problems too?

allquixotic

@AJHenderson it's the Murphy's Catastrophic Law

Whenever something goes wrong, other things which are normally unlikely to go wrong are much, much more likely to go wrong too

AJ Henderson

04:37

sounds about right

particularly since it's in the middle of a busy month

also, for the record, I hate how much it has become common practice to hide logs away in obscure locations

even if they are often more verbose and easy to follow when you do finally find them

I miss friendly error messages like Error 0x3234235: Your ram's busted.

now you just get "Install failed!". No! Really, the fact you didn't install was my first clue

Bob

2 hours ago, by Bob

"Something happened and your installation of Windows 8.1 couldn't be completed."

Just had that experience :P

That was all the error message had in it.

allquixotic

@Bob they should've made that a LOT more user friendly by putting a :( in it (see my gravatar)

Bob

No indication of any logs, or more details being available elsewhere.

AJ Henderson

@Bob well, that is a friendly error unless you already have windows 8 installed ;)

Bob

@AJHenderson But not all that useful.

"something happened"

!!meme okay

allquixotic

04:41

error messages displayed to the user need to show signs that the computer is alive; that it has empathy

AJ Henderson

depends on your definition of useful ;)

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

:( conveys "I am a sad computer because I couldn't service you"

AJ Henderson

seems to be telling you not to install windows 8... good advice

Bob

@AJHenderson I'm trying to go 8 => 8.1.

AJ Henderson

04:42

ah, in that case, not so friendly

Bob

Not gonna upgrade anything if I can help it.

At the most, it'll be a clean install.

OS upgrades never work out for me.

The only reason this is an upgrade and not clean is because this is the only channel I can get a free copy through, apparently.

Hey look 99%

Taking bets on it failing.

Journeyman Geek

Ahh this is the best part of being a mod

AJ Henderson

@allquixotic ah yes, I knew there was a reason that looked familiar

Journeyman Geek

DESTROY. ALL. SPAMMERS.

AJ Henderson

I particularly love seeing it on my server

Journeyman Geek

04:44

Apparently someone wanted votes for some silly dance competition. They got smacked down by the paw of dog.

AJ Henderson

I try to avoid logging in to my 2012 box as much as humanly possible

Bob

Oh yes. The new user friendly but admins can go to hell messages.

allquixotic

@Bob you can install Windows 8.1 clean if you have a valid Windows 8 key. you have to do some trickery with the registry or something, but I did it and it worked for me :P

also, the upgrade from 8 to 8.1 worked fine on my primary desktop

Bob

@allquixotic ...I don't have a key.

It's whatever was on the bloody laptop.

allquixotic

o

Bob

04:45

Last I checked, it's something in the UEFI firmware.

@allquixotic Turns out it was VS2013 blocking the upgrade this time.

Which is fucking retarded.

AJ Henderson

@JourneymanGeek lies

Bob

I still have VS2010 and VS2012 installed with no problems... what the hell is special about 2013?

AJ Henderson

the best part of being a mod is easily the view deleted chat messages and the ability to edit your messages after timeout

Bob

And now I need to dig up the key and reinstall it... fuck.

Great, install complete. Now "getting devices ready". I'm pretty sure this is where it failed last time cause of ralink.

Journeyman Geek

@AJHenderson: I abuse those powers suprisingly little

Bob

04:47

If only the installer didn't insist on redownloading the damn thing every attempt. Goes from a 1-2 hour process to a 3-4 hour process per attempt.

AJ Henderson

@JourneymanGeek you are apparently a less curious man than I. I honestly am not sure there is a single deleted message I haven't ended up checking. It's like the one sure way to make sure that I see something

allquixotic

@Bob I recall that if you save the files DLed to a certain directory you can re-run it instantly, but I forget where :S

AJ Henderson

(in fairness, that is in part to make sure someone wasn't trying to conceal misbehaving)

Bob

:P

AJ Henderson

but I'd also be lieing if I said it wasn't a large bit of curiosity too

Bob

04:49

@allquixotic :\

Might have to try that next run, if this fails again.

Journeyman Geek

@AJHenderson: there used to be this annoying kid who deleted everything... ;p

AJ Henderson

@JourneymanGeek I'm aware, I suspended him on more than one occasion

Bob

Ethan? I think.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, I figure unless its deleted so only I can see it, or I NEED to conext..

@Bob: naw, the one who used to stalk me ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Then there's two.

Journeyman Geek

04:51

Ethan is primarily a Comms Room Troll

AJ Henderson

he changed his name a few times as well

never saw him as ethan though

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Porsia/Ut***sh etc

I think @AJHenderson is thinking of the same person ;p

AJ Henderson

ah, yes, that was it

@JourneymanGeek that one

Bob

Hm. Then who suspended Ethan? o.O

I remember he was deleting his messages and someone got pissed off enough to suspend him.

Meh.

Journeyman Geek

Beats me

Ethan usually gets tolerated and mocked

AJ Henderson

05:07

anyone else having major rendering issues if they try to go in to the Frying Pan or Photography chat rooms?

Bob

@AJHenderson Yup.

AJ Henderson

ok, time to find a CM or Dev to ping

Bob

@AJHenderson It's not loading the CSS.

This room loads http://cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/css/chat.superuser.com.css?v=a2f243f3a1ea

The Frying Pan tries to load http://cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/css/chat.cooking.stackexchange.com.css?v=c6e7c‌ea475f8

And that responds with an "offline for maintenance" page:

<html>
<head>
    <title>We are Offline</title>
    <style type="text/css">
        body { margin: 0; padding: 0; }
        iframe { border: 0; }
    </style>
</head>
<body>
    <iframe width="100%" height="100%" id="pageFrame"></iframe>
    <script type="text/javascript">
        setTimeout(function () { location.reload(true); }, 300000);
        var hostName = window.location.hostname;
        var directory = '';
    </script>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="http://sstatic.net/error-director.js"></script>

AJ Henderson

btw, congrats superuser

when I went to double check how to make sure I was not loading from cache on chrome, the first result I got was superuser

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

05:14

ugh, I hate legacy media

AJ Henderson

yes, 8.5 inch floppies are slow

Journeyman Geek

DVD, stopped playing half way

AJ Henderson

I'm not sure if DVD qualifies as legacy media quite yet

Psycogeek

"Handcuffed man who had been 'smoking meth for three days' shoots at officers using gun hidden in his butt cheeks" dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2661451/… But thats not all, he also had 2 bags of meth hidden in his 'rectal area' ( a cell phone an extra clip, and the keys to his car :-)

Journeyman Geek

@AJHenderson if it was already ripped, I'd just grab a spare copy off my storage

dvd is legacy to me :p

allquixotic

05:35

Goddammit SE fix the stylesheets ugh

I'm in a horrid severe thunderstorm with hail and wanted to rant at you guys but couldn't find the chat box without the CSS

Psycogeek

05:54

ohoh , he dropped out. harsh hail storms can be a pre-curser to tornados. weather.com/safety/tornadoes/map pushing on the Storm Tracker button shows 2 possible tornadoes forming.

Bob

06:45

@Psycogeek Ouch, looks like there's onr right next to where @allquixotic is.

Hope he's alright.

Bob

08:20

@allquixotic @JourneymanGeek now I'm starting to think that the Beats software is simply buggy as all hell and maybe not actively malicious. or it's supposed to be, but buggy while doing it (more likely)

after the 8.1 update, it now sets both bass and treble in the basic tone controls to max (4). It used to set bass to -12 (min) on win8 o.O

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Its probably just shittily designed ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek still sabotage :P

they just can't do even that right

there should be no legitimate reason to mess with those settings on every reboot when it is disabled

anyway, next goal: get my brightness controls back -_-

Bob

08:40

okay.jpg

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

o.O cool

HackToHell

lol

Psycogeek

@Bob is that because it is programmed in java or uses javascript ?

Bob

Lordy.

h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Display-and-Video/…

> hi,all your games will still be in steam so you wont lose anything, just reinstall windows.

Oh yes.

Because I have nothing at all I'd need to keep except games.

And all games are on Steam.

Ayup.

Sometimes I wish I could downvote... or delete... in other places.

Styphon

09:10

Hi guys

Journeyman Geek

lo

Styphon

Would anyone here have knowledge about mobile debugging?

I'm trying to get my Note 3 working with chrome://inspect but getting no joy

Oliver Salzburg

09:41

@JourneymanGeek Y U NO SHARE?? O__O play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tommedley.chatsey

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: I've raved about it repeatedly here ;p

Oliver Salzburg

lies!

Journeyman Geek

Somewhere around the time I got accused of being goth ;p

Oliver Salzburg

lol

Ugh, it doesn't support the native auth mechanism

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg It was stared ;p

It doesn't support notifs though

Oliver Salzburg

09:45

@HackToHell Huh. I must be too idle lately

Oliver Salzburg

10:16

0

Q: is any possable to zenoss mails(data) integrate with mysql database table?

I have a zenoss setup for my pc and I want to store every outgoing email from the zenoss to a database. Does any one know how I can achieve this. FYI I just use this server to send emails and I use google Apps to receive emails.

windows-7 ubuntu performance-monitor

what the tags?

HackToHell

Finally a fix reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1nn5ms/…

Screw you AMD ;p

Michael Frank

@HackToHell weaksauce. Play a real MOBA, like Dawngate!

Oliver Salzburg

0

Q: Duplicate system folder Win XP

How can a duplicate system folder be deleted in Win XP? When trying to setup a network between this pc and another I got it all wrong. Now I wish to tidy up my mess and remove either the "User" folder or the "All Users" folder. I no longer need the network.

shared-folders deleting

deleting O____o

Michael Frank

Nooooo! The deleting tag was relevant! :P

Oliver Salzburg

delete BAH!

box warning ...

Bob

10:45

@OliverSalzburg It's all virtual! Virtual reality! No physical boxes here!

Oliver Salzburg

The problem with killing bad tags is, you always find more bad tags in the process

Like subject

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Now that's just subjective!

HackToHell

@MichaelFrank It's not free

;p

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I kinda thought that was real

Oliver Salzburg

11:04

dialog Oo ...for questions about... dialogs

That image hurts my brain

Bob

@OliverSalzburg in what way?

Oliver Salzburg

11:21

@Bob Look at it in full size. The pattern is kinda dizzying

Bob

@OliverSalzburg :(

Oliver Salzburg

Which is why it was tagged pattern :P

Huh, we have case-sensitive but not case-insensitive

Bob

@OliverSalzburg case-sensitivity

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yeah, that could work

Bob

I'll never understand crap like this

oh sure let's make a device that supports 802.11ac, but we'll cheap out on the GbE ports!

Oliver Salzburg

11:35

Oooohh a cloud router

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I guess that fits with the rest of my network. Working until it rains.

Oliver Salzburg

:D

AEonAX

11:47

I am facing a problem. My laptop HP G62 recently had its graphic card (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470) replaced. After that I am unable to run it at high performance mode. It hibernates showing reason as overheating.

Yesterday I opened it, and cleaned the cooling assembly as well as applied a new thermal paste. still I am facing the same problem. I ran CPUtemp software and monitored the temperature. It shows Tj max as 105 deg C. But It seems to be hibernating at 85 deg C in high performance and 60 deg C in power saver. What could be the reason? Is this question worth asking on super-user?

Oliver Salzburg

@AEonAX Yes, it is worth asking

AEonAX

I am even unable to play terraria

Oliver Salzburg

I'd definitely contact whoever replaced the card though

AEonAX

Gfx card is working fine though

Journeyman Geek

12:17

@Bob: so they can sell a slightly more espensive model with both ;p

allquixotic

12:36

Hii

Journeyman Geek

YOU'RE ALIVE!

JAN ORTS

13:02

Does anybody know? Can I use NetBeans 7.4 and use the newest JDK that is supposed to work with NetBeans 8.0 ?

jokerdino

13:29

@HackToHell You have the all clear. Do what you must (you may reference the crappy UI design I sent you)

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