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Psycogeek

16:04

You need to do a backup of the router data, before you lose more.

sammyg

haha poor cat

duct tape fun with jamie

Bob

@sammyg That's gonna be painful.

sammyg

@Bob yeah, imagine removing that later on... auuchh... it hurts just to think of it

but jamie got it, he know how to have fun with duct tape :) haha

Psycogeek

Heck the tape comes right off

I think they could be lying again :-)

nhinkle

16:26

You guys see the Surface Pro 3 announcement?

theverge.com/2014/5/20/5734102/…

allquixotic

@nhinkle :O no!

glad I saved my income tax $

Bob

@allquixotic So... you're getting a new one? :P

@nhinkle Holy shit, that is tempting.

drools

allquixotic

@Bob I have the Pro 1, so I feel satisfied in skipping a generation (the 2).

especially if the Pro 3 is a Haswell-Refresh.

nhinkle

2160x1440 screen resolution...

Apparently it's 2:3 ratio. Kinda weird. But still, I like it!

Bob

Owwwww... $1,549

probably a good $2,000 in au

Psycogeek

16:33

how many days will it run on battery? and will it make (normal cell) phone calls yet?

And does it work outside in the sun?

allquixotic

@Psycogeek about 0.33 (repeating), and no

what would really seal the deal for me would be an internal Verizon LTE modem

Psycogeek

well then will it run a whole normal version of the OS? or still a tablet version?

allquixotic

I'll probably get one, but it won't be this month

too much other shit going on

and depending on my mood swings I might not ever get one and just wait

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@JourneymanGeek: Pardon me... I'm late again... A belated Congrats :D

allquixotic

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut if he were here, he'd reply "woof!"

Bob

16:36

> Core i3, 64GB disk, 4GB RAM $799
Core i5, 128GB disk, 4GB RAM $999
Core i5, 256GB disk, 8GB RAM $1,299
Core i7, 256GB disk, 8GB RAM $1,549
Core i7, 512GB disk, 8GB RAM $1,949

Hmm.

jokerdino

hi

nhinkle

@Bob where'd you find pricing?

Bob

The $999 one is very tempting, but !!no to 4 GB of RAM

allquixotic

@Bob if I got one it'd be the top model, but I'll have to order on Amazon, since I have a ton of tax return money in an Amazon gift card

nhinkle

I'm trying to verify if all pricing levels have the high res screen

Bob

16:36

@nhinkle arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/05/…

allquixotic

TurboTax did a thing with Amazon this year

nhinkle

Oooo 9 hours battery life?

Bob

@allquixotic Anything over $1000 is rather iffy for me.

But I just can't settle for 4 GB.

allquixotic

you get back 10% more tax return money for having it converted into an amazon gift card

Bob

So if I were to get one, it'd probably be either the $1,299 or the $1,549

is an i7 worth an extra $250? probably not.

nhinkle

16:38

@Bob doubtful

allquixotic

unless the i7 is Iris Pro

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@allquixotic I know... :D

allquixotic

in which case, !!yes

Bob

An i3 would probably suffice for just about anything I'd do with it.

@allquixotic Oh yea, there is that.

nhinkle

Is our friendly local bot running?

allquixotic

16:39

!!tell 15623276 yes

ChatBot John Cavil

nhinkle

Lol. I saw your !!no's not getting no'd

allquixotic

it doesn't do substring matches

your txt has to start with !!

nhinkle

!! hello

Bob

@allquixotic There are i5 Iris Pros though.

ChatBot John Cavil

16:40

@nhinkle Howdy.

nhinkle

!! foo bar baz

ChatBot John Cavil

@nhinkle That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

nhinkle

Hah, I broke it!

Bob

I'd be very disappointed if they didn't use one.

allquixotic

I put !!commands in messages when I want to refer to the mental image of that result without actually causing the bot to do that

nhinkle

16:41

@Bob if who didn't use a what?

Bob

@allquixotic Thing is, my current (bulky) laptop probably still has a goodtwo-three years left.

1 min ago, by Bob

@allquixotic There are i5 Iris Pros though.

The only reason I'm considering a Surface Pro is the portability.

allquixotic

@Bob bleh, gotta upgrade sometime

Bob

@allquixotic Sometime, yes.

But weighing up the rather high price and my actual need for it (apart from "ooh, shiny")...

allquixotic

at this point I don't travel enough to need more than my Yoga 2 and my Nexus 7 for mobility, so the sane, logic-based side of my brain tells me to ignore the Surface Pro 3 and its salacious features in favor of something I might actually need, like a beefier GPU for Star Citizen on my desktop

'course the emotion-based side of my brain tells me DO IT DO IT DO IT

Bob

@allquixotic Hehe, it's rather like the angel and devil on the shoulder thing :P

nhinkle

16:44

They have a docking station now too

allquixotic

I should sell my S Pro 1 while it's still not obsolete, get money for it, and invest that plus my income tax into a S Pro 3 (emotion talking)

nhinkle

You could make it your only computer... hook it up to a nice 27" display with a wireless keyboard

@allquixotic I bid $20

allquixotic

damnit @nhinkle stop being a MS shill and making me emotionally invested into buying their products :$

Ballmer should pay you commission

!! s/Ballmer/@Sathya/

Bob

@allquixotic How much are you selling for? :P

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic @Sathya should pay you commission (source)

allquixotic

16:45

@Bob to be decided

assuming I survive the 737-700 flight to Milwaukee and back on my vacation next week (technically my mom's birthday vacation, but I'm still taking off work), I'll get back and have some time to think about it

having a shiny new S Pro 3 to play with during my vacation would be awesome, but I know I can't get Amazon to ship me one in that time, assuming they even sell them this week

and it can't be anything other than Amazon because there's no way I'm funding that out of pocket without my AMZN gift card.

if you guys hear about a Southwest Airlines 737-700 flight crashing on Saturday (this Saturday), know that I'll never be back here, and say a little prayer for my soul plz

Bob

They seem to be going for about $400-$500 on Aus eBay. Not too bad.

allquixotic

I'm terrified of flying

Bob

@allquixotic :(

allquixotic

even though it's only costing me 1/3rd of a micromort to do it

well, 2/3rd because round trip

nhinkle

As long as you aren't flying out of Malaysia you should be OK

Psycogeek

16:49

lol

allquixotic

to & from the US

Bob

@allquixotic Yea. Heck, I'm scared of driving -_-

nhinkle

Welp I gotta go to class... see you all later.

Don't go spending all your money in one place now.

Bob

@nhinkle Bye!

allquixotic

@Bob funnily enough, I'll happily take my 52 micromorts per year due to driving, because I'm in control

I'm depending on the maintenance crew, the pilots, ATC, and the absence of terrorists; all of those external factors -- or their absence -- put my life in jeopardy and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it

Bob

16:50

@allquixotic You, or the thousands of other drivers?

allquixotic

on the other hand, I might be able to prevent a fatal car crash by taking some action behind the wheel

Bob

@allquixotic Terrorism is one of those things that you really shouldn't worry about, because, ignoring all the media hype, it doesn't happen.

allquixotic

the micromorts of risk you actually incur by driving are affected by how good of a driver you are, how safe your car is rated, etc

I consider myself an above average driver with an above average safety rating on my car

Bob

The number of fatal terrorism-related events on planes is miniscule.

allquixotic

a drunk driver going "HAA HAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!" in a '67 chevy doing 120 mph in a 55 mph zone against oncoming traffic has a very different amount of micromort incursion than me doing 60 in a 55 zone in a '12 Civic

Bob

16:52

9/11 was bad. Yes. But it was also a singular occurrence.

There have been other incidents, some fatal, but even they are eclipsed by general accidents/poor maintenance/whatever.

allquixotic

he's incurring about 10000 micromorts per second, while me, I probably incur about 1 micromort per week

Bob

shrug

@allquixotic OTOH, air travel standards are far higher than highway safety standards. So there's that, at least.

allquixotic

@Bob worked out really well for them, didn't it? :|

Bob

@allquixotic 30 years ago... sure

allquixotic

> The subsequent repair of the bulkhead did not conform to Boeing's approved repair methods.
The Boeing technicians fixing the aircraft used two separate doubler plates, one with two rows of rivets and one with only one row when the procedure called for one continuous doubler plate with three rows of rivets to reinforce the damaged bulkhead.[21] The incorrect repair reduced the part's resistance to metal fatigue by 70%. According to the Federal Aviation Administration, the one "doubler plate" which was specified for the job (the Federal Aviation Administration calls it a "splice plate" - es…

I see no reason why that couldn't happen again

Bob

16:56

Then there's bridge collapses, semis losing control and jackknifing across the road, etc..

allquixotic

@Bob aviation safety hasn't markedly improved since the 80s though

Bob

@allquixotic What makes you say that?

allquixotic

if anything, there have been enough incidents slipping through the cracks as to indicate that we're lucky we haven't had more airline fatalities than we've had

tail strikes, short landings, running past the runway, crashing into vehicles, parts of the fuselage breaking off, I mean we're lucky more of these incidents haven't happened, and when they do happen, there have not been as many fatalities as the worst-case

it happens all the time, and unless the entire passenger manifest is lost, it doesn't even make the news

but it's due to luck that those accidents aren't worse, not due to our proper preparation

Bob

@allquixotic Luck doesn't go that far.

What might seem like pure luck is usually influenced at some point by something being done right.

allquixotic

@Bob luck can go as far as it wants to -- infinitely far, in fact

Bob

17:01

If there are as many incidences as you say, then there's no way pure luck will carry through all of them.

allquixotic

it's unlikely that it will, but it can

Bob

@allquixotic Probability-wise, while it can, the chance is infinitesimally small.

allquixotic

@Bob I've watched many interviews with pilots who survived fatal or nearly-fatal accidents involving airplanes. most of the time they cite luck, rather than any particular decision they took or any particular result of the design of the plane or the systems/processes in place, as the primary reason they were able to keep as many people alive as they did.

there are so many failure modes that we can't possibly prepare for all of them without making each airplane launch as costly as a space shuttle launch, and even two of those blew up

in practice aviation is a lot less rigorous than a space shuttle launch, even though the consequences of a crash are usually quite severe

Bob

@allquixotic The pilots cite luck, but at the end of the day there's a hell of a lot of intentional design that went into it.

You can say it's lucky that a plane, or your car, doesn't spontaneously combust.

You could also say it's unlucky when it does.

@allquixotic They also have far more data on what can happen, what has happened, and how to prevent it from happening in the future.

Because there's far fewer space shuttle launches, there's less available data for designers to correct faults.

Boris_yo

@Bob Do you trust Wikipedia?

allquixotic

17:07

@Bob there are also far more car "launches" than plane takeoffs, so by that logic, car crashes should be guaranteed to be non-fatal with a high degree of confidence, right? :P

Bob

@allquixotic Different thing.

allquixotic

there's only so much preparation and hedging you can do -- some of it is limited by physics, while some of it is limited by economics... and I'm sure economics has played a part in more than a handful of both car and plane crashes, where saving money led to deaths

Bob

Planes don't put much focus on making crashes safer.

They try to prevent crashes in the first place.

Cars... you don't exactly see them lose control due to mechanical fault that often, do you?

allquixotic

a SWA maintenance guy skimps on his checks, perhaps even with the authorization of his manager, to save money and get all the planes launched on schedule

they launch on schedule alright, but one crashes. boom.

not hard to imagine happening all the time, except that they luck out that the checks were unnecessary anyway

Bob

@allquixotic Still, overall, planes are far better maintained than cars.

Ash

17:11

@Bob downloads finished.This download manager with parallel downloads ? helped me.

Bob

And generally maintenance procedures are rather rigorous. There is always the human element, and attempts at cost-saving, yes.

@Ash Does it extract alright?

allquixotic

still, I'd rather take on a micromort of danger when I'm at least partially in control of the situation, than taking on a micromort of danger when my entire fate and life and existence is entirely in the hands of a long string of other people all doing their jobs correctly

Psycogeek

much more effective than kerbal built ships

Ash

@Bob yes.

allquixotic

@Psycogeek that, you are correct about! :D

gotta go, will be back later to discuss risk :p

Bob

17:13

@Ash k, I'll get around to deleting it sometime :P

Ash

:)

►

unbelievable !!

@Bob did you remove that cm file hack was trying to download ?

Bob

@Ash hm?

he got it from @JourneymanGeek

Ash

@Bob but you downloaded it ,right ?

Bob

@Ash Hm? Nah.

He never told me how to download it. And I couldn't be bothered trying to figure it out.

Mokubai

Heya peeps, how's tricks?

Bob

17:25

59 mins ago, by nhinkle

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/20/5734102/surface-pro-3-features-pricing-announc‌ement

Mokubai

@Bob Do I need a Surface Pro 3?

Bob

!!yes

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

But in all seriousness, it is tempting.

Mokubai

@Bob Or are you offering one? 'cause if so then I won't refuse...

Bob

17:27

@Mokubai Good sir, are you asking for a bribe?

Mokubai

"only $799" huh

@Bob bribe is such an ugly word... can't we just go with "job perk"

So, overseas taxes mean that that your $799 will turn into £799 and one huge middle finger in my general direction from Microsoft...

I'd love a Surface but there's no way I've got £500 to £1000 just lying around

Boris_yo

19:01

Mokubai

19:15

@Boris_yo old model nexus 7 got cheap!

Canadian Luke

Boris_yo

20:04

@CanadianLuke :D

That someone's face after hitting :D

Lesson? Do penis enlargement because this method is ineffective.

Michael Frank

20:31

Someone was talking about FF29 being released in 2018. @sammyg was that you?

sammyg

@CanadianLuke no, no, what really happened in there is someone had rough sex and broke the towel dispenser when they slammed each other against the wall... then a couple hours later, some unknowing nerd walked in and saw that, and thought "oh i am so gonna upload this to the web and all the major 'social' networking sites, went home, typed that in and printed out, went back and put that on there and took a picture

Michael Frank

Wow... So I asked this guy to expand on his answer instead of just pasting a link...

superuser.com/posts/755902/revisions

sammyg

@MichaelFrank yes

Michael Frank

See picture above then. ;)

sammyg

@MichaelFrank haa! yikes! it's 2018 already? damn! time passes one by so fast when one has fun

;)

@MichaelFrank wow! and he actually listened to you? :p

Michael Frank

20:42

@sammyg Kinda... he just copied and pasted the exact article, without the pictures.

sammyg

@MichaelFrank naah... not really... he did add in "It's possible."

^^

but he did add the link at the end, and from the looks of it he didn't copy it word by word, it looks like he tried to sum it all up a bit, but didn't feel like typing...

unlike me...

mr type-a-lot here

^^

he just wants to earn rep. points, that's all...

there are some of us who see SE as a game, where you have to get as many reps as possible...

a bit like facebook where you add as many weirdos to your account as possible, just to beat your IRL friends at it

the new obsession of the digital age :p

if i was to post an answer, a really thorough one with plenty of text walls and explanations, i would put some time and effort into it, and also add in some screenshots, so it's not just all text

really long, text only answers, or articles for that matter tend to scare people off and they don't even read it

when you have a few pictures it tends to get their attention

typesetting and formatting is also important, of course

but i think a screenshot says a lot, sometimes more than just text

hey why does this W530 ThinkPad have a square-like power connector?..

is that according to standard?... standardized DC connector?

allquixotic

20:58

@sammyg my Yoga 2 (also Lenovo) has a very different power connector. the only similarity is it's also yellow.

the Yoga 2 power connector is basically the same form factor as a standard USB plug (USB-A, not micro), but it has a big honking pin in the middle of the connector

sammyg

@allquixotic is that the one?

that just looks weird... that can't be standard

Michael Frank

@sammyg Looks round to me.

sammyg

so where do you buy spare power adapters that have square plugs like that?...

they probably want you to buy Lenovo original

Michael Frank

@sammyg You don't. Sorta like how you don't just buy a spare Magsafe adapter. :P

sammyg

that's all just crazy... unless it's standardized

i'm with HP on this... they use "normal" DC plugs... adapters can be found anywhere and everywhere, just check the rating

there is nothing wrong with the normal round DC plug... none that i know of, in fact, it makes the connection much easier... rather than thinking about what way you plug that in, what is up-side and what is down-side, long or short side, you just plug it straight in and you're done... that's probably part of the reason why these connectors have been around for a long time (since the 70's i believe)

but of course Lenovo has to follow in Apple's footsteps and "innovate" by making new crazy connectors

i just looked it up, i think this is called IEC 60130-10:1971

so it's defined in 1971 by IEC

!!wiki coaxial power connector

ChatBot John Cavil

21:18

Coaxial power connector

A coaxial power connector is an electrical power connector used for attaching extra-low voltage devices such as consumer electronics to external electricity. Also known as barrel connectors, concentric barrel connectors or tip connectors, these small cylindrical connectors come in an enormous variety of sizes. Barrel plug connectors are commonly used to interface the secondary side of a power supply with the device. Some of these jacks contain a normally closed switch; the switch can disconnect internal batteries whenever the external power supply is connected. Connector construction...

allquixotic

21:50

Mokubai

22:16

Heya @allquixotic. Good day?

Canadian Luke

22:43

clientsfromhell.net/post/86211807752/…

Ramhound

22:55

I wish this guy had enough reputation to come chat with us

Office 2013 64-Bit confirmed. I connect to the Quickbooks DB via QODBC driver and it does require a 64-bit data source which has been properly configured. EDIT: And yes, I am willing to admit that I likely did not understand the original bottleneck. Thankfully, we got past the crashing but still, I feel like this thing is Godzilla in chains right now. — FurryWombat 8 mins ago

err

superuser.com/questions/756772/utilizing-the-full-power-of-my-workstation

ok...

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Q: Utilizing the full power of my workstation

I am not a gamer. Used to be, 10+ years ago. My workstation is strictly for business: Quickbooks Excel Access General Business QuickBooks is tied to a synchronization engine that is synchronizing, at times, 100,000+ items with our web database (a true monster of awesome power) at any given ti...

I can't think of any reason his system wouldn't be using more of the potential. My first thought is he miss took that classic "low virtual memory" to mean he was low on physical memory.

that cat is really freaky

but not as cool as the dog defeating cat

( cat attacks dog, dog runs away, world ends because dog and cat roles are starting to reverse )

The bible got it wrong, the first sign of the end of the world is cats chasing dogs ;-)

stupid cats

DOGS DROOL CATS ...Well they are just cats I suppose

Happy folks? You leave me alone in this room and I talk about Dogs vs Cats to myself which is weird.

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