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Sathya

04:06

@tombull89 @nhinkle @SimonSheehan Matt actually hit it in 55 days

Apr 21 at 8:06, by Sathya

Congrats to @MattJenkins for hitting 10k in 55 days :)

but I believe John T still holds the crown

Stack Overflow Blog: The First Super User With 10k Rep

Posted by Jeff Atwood on September 2nd, 2009

I sort of dropped the ball on this, but sometime in the last week or two, the first user reached 10,000 reputation on Super User.

That user is John T.

July 15th was the first day of beta, and John — as of this writing — has 11,232 reputation. That means in about 48 days, John has produced 234 reputation per day. (Remember that bounties and accepted answers are immune to the 200/day reputation cap.)

Impressive.

It’s all the more impressive when you realize that John is a mere 18 years old! (He’s also Canadian, but I won’t hold that against him.) Looks like we have another lifetime Super User on our hands. …

Simon Sheehan

04:20

@Sathya in 70 days I got 2k.... How do these people manage!

Sathya

04:31

@SimonSheehan getting good questions in my timezone is almost impossible :\

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya :/ Im finding less answers to go for lately. At this point I'm editing posts just to help out - nothing left for me to answer.

People are snatching them up quick! But I get to blog, so I'm okay with it. They give me topics ;)

Sathya

cool

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya So what's up today? You seem to be the only one around at this time :/

Sathya

04:46

I'm supposed to finish off these courses and tests by 2pm today

Ethical Responsibility
Environmental Responsibility
Information Security Awareness
Data Protection Principles
Mobile Working

and it's already 10:16AM >_>

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya How much work will they all involve? Think you'll manage?

Sathya

@SimonSheehan people seem to be occupied with work more than usual, the past few weeks

about 20 minutes each + 10 minutes to actually open the damn thing

30x 4 ( already completed 1) == 120 minutes == 2 hours.

that's if I take them without a break, which I know, won't do

Simon Sheehan

Well you've got 4 hours. Plenty of room for breaks, could always do it over lunch too ;)

Sathya

well yeah I'm also finishing off writing some unit tests

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya unit tests? On what?

Sathya

04:51

yesterday, by Sathya

sorry by forms I mean front end screens for an application @SimonSheehan

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya ah, I see.

jtbandes

05:04

welp

someone find me a new hobby plz

d.pr/gkVm+

Simon Sheehan

48 degrees today.. Wow.

I live in Canada, this isn't normal!

Sathya

@SimonSheehan 48F?

@jtbandes ohai. Congrats on 10k @jtbandes!

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Simon Sheehan

@Sathya no. 35c, but with humidity it's 48c. Insanity

Sathya

@SimonSheehan wow, that's bloody hot. It's ~ 38C here.

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya record breaking temperatures. Normal to me is -15c

Sathya

05:16

@SimonSheehan o_0

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya I'm a very avid skier, so this isn't my type of weather :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

i like something between 0-12 degrees

just my luck i spent most of my life in the tropics ;p

Simon Sheehan

0-12 is nice. I like below freezing though, snow is such a nice sight. It's very dull here and so white snow reflects light well.

Journeyman Geek

never been that cold. >_>

Simon Sheehan

@Journeyman what's the coldest you've ever been in?

Journeyman Geek

05:24

just cold enough for snow

bristol had decentish weather when i was there

Sathya

over here, if it dips below 28 it's cold

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya holy 0.o. We have days where it gets to -50 with the wind chill.

@Sathya sounds like you get a consistent temperature though

Sathya

@SimonSheehan yeah, summers 36-42

winters(!) ~ 32

monsoons 28

Simon Sheehan

Our temperature is messy then. Up to 40 in summer, -50 in winter. 90 degree difference. It's quite the madness

Sathya

wow.

Never knew that Chrome could deobfuscate JS

Simon Sheehan

05:38

Hmm, this rm -rf / question has great answers. Testing it myself gave fun results too

My leaving a PC on during thunderstorms question has nearly 1000 views, that's exciting

Boris_yo

06:05

Guys i have my Dropbox account breached.

No matter what i am trying to download, i always download virus.

Simon Sheehan

@Boris_yo Go onto the dropbox website and delete the file from there

Boris_yo

@SimonSheehan Yeah but no matter what i upload it always downloads as virus file.

Simon Sheehan

Perhaps it is not dropbox that's the issue then. Have you tried making a new account? Re-installing? Changing your password?

Boris_yo

@SimonSheehan Uploaded from Android, uploaded from laptop - nothing. Uploaded to another Dropbox account and everything was fine.

Simon Sheehan

@Boris try to delete the other account then and just keep the new one.

Seems VERY odd though..

Boris_yo

06:17

@SimonSheehan Okay. Simon i sent laptop with warranty voided to certified HP lab and they returned it with scratches on LCD monitor. What do you think?

Simon Sheehan

@Boris Call and complain to a higher up about it. Then send it back and expect rush order service for free :P. Or if your like me you just won't buy HP ever again.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Simon Sheehan

@Boris why did you send it in in the first place anyway?

Journeyman Geek

and warranty voided how?

Boris_yo

@SimonSheehan @JourneymanGeek Guys i did not mention that this "certified" lab is in Israel. I am in Israel. I sent laptop because it was broken after power failure.

Journeyman Geek

06:22

shouldn't matter. you can still complain if service was not up to scratch

Simon Sheehan

Yeah, if they sent it back damaged then you should be complaining. Also, certified doesnt always mean professional ;)

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek @SimonSheehan This lab has 1 out of 5 stars - this says it all. People suggest to repair in another lab. I am affraid attourney is the way.

Simon Sheehan

@Boris in my professional 16 year old opinion... Don't buy HP again ;)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Simon Sheehan

Their likely right, but since they scratched it, complain still :P

Boris_yo

06:28

@SimonSheehan Are you an attorney?

@SimonSheehan But that HP laptop has all that i want - it is almost perfect.

Simon Sheehan

@Boris nope. I'm 16, I dont even have a high school diploma!

Journeyman Geek

@Borisyo: well, if he was i'd be impressed

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek If he was i would hire him!

Simon Sheehan

Haha.

Well it's 2:30am already.. My sleep schedules very off so im getting off here now. Cya later everyone!

Boris_yo

@SimonSheehan Cyao!

Sathya

06:38

@SimonSheehan cya

Journeyman Geek

06:54

massive picdump on google plus ;p

DMA57361

07:20

morning all

Sathya

07:44

morning @DMA57361

Boris_yo

@DMA57361 Hello.

@Sathya Hello, are you from USA?

Sathya

nopes @Borisyo nowhere close :p

Boris_yo

I want to know how is HP support in USA.

Sathya

sorry, I wouldn't know.

Boris_yo

@Sathya Do you know how much lawyers charge for menacing letter?

Sathya

07:53

nopes.

tombull89

@Sathya ah, ok. KCotreau did good, but not the best of SU. Also John T: 0 questions, 2502 answers?!

Sathya

@tombull89 yep. He's been on hibernation lately though :p else I'm pretty sure his rep would be ~ 120k+

Boris_yo

08:16

Guys what if i send "unknown" lawyer's letter to firm?

tombull89

08:35

@Boris_yo You want a legal.stackexchange, not us, sorry.

Boris_yo

Okay

@tombull89 No such site

tombull89

sorry, I knew it didn't exist but you want a site like a legal.se, I don't know what it would be called.

paradroid

09:01

Google Plus vanity URLs:
http://gp1.gp/

Sathya

yes, not official

paradroid

@Sathya No, but I don't see how that makes any difference really. It may take Google a while for username URLs, if they ever get around to it.

Sathya

@paradroid I know, just pointing :P there's also gplus.to

paradroid

@Sathya Ah, I better grab my name on that one too.

Sathya

@paradroid same as here?

paradroid

09:10

@Sathya That one only allows one link, so I just used my real name

Sathya

@paradroid ah ok

hotveryspicy

10:03

@Sathya i need your help?

problem is related to android may i ask here?

tombull89

you have got to be joking.

hotveryspicy

please

tombull89

@hotveryspicy sighface From the FaQ:

Super User is for computer enthusiasts and power users. If you have a question about: computer hardware [or] computer software you're in the right place.

Sathya

man I need to learn Finnish, fast.

translate.google.com/…

@hotveryspicy unless it deals with connecting the Android to your PC, no, not here, neither will you find any Android progammers here.

fake programmers, perhaps ;p

hotveryspicy

okies

Journeyman Geek

10:22

@Sathya: why's your instructions in finnish? ;p

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek because I'm developing a UI in Finnish >_>

just fyi, go through this and check if any images are dead. If so reupload using the Stack Exchange uploader. Change site as necessary.

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Journeyman Geek

ahh

ahh, both of the ones that turn up are fine ^^

granted, one wasn't ,mine

paradroid

10:46

Speaking of Finns, I'm looking forward to the Meego-powered Nokia N9 <-- a proper pocket computer, more than a smartphone, and this time, sleek and smartphone-like, with an amazing camera.

Sathya

@paradroid is it actually coming out :-s

paradroid

Yeah, of course. It was announced a little while ago. There is a Windows Phone 7 version using very similar hardware as well.

swipe.nokia.com

It has a NFC transponder too. I am hoping I can use it as a London Underground Oyster card. That would be pretty cool.

Sathya

sweet

paradroid

oops, I meant NFC

PriceChild

@paradroid Its dead in the water though? Nokia have made it clear Meego won't be pursued by them. There's no chance you'll get a good amount of 'rich' apps by random developers?

paradroid

10:55

@PriceChild Ofcourse it will never rival Android or iOS for the amount of apps, but as it is actual Linux, many apps can simply be compiled for it, with no changes, and there is a community of GUI app developers.

Geeky and genuinely useful apps will be available. Maybe not iPhone fart apps and Angry Birds though.

And Nokia has surprised everyone, including the Meego community, with its continuing commitment to Meego, with this latest phone.

The Windows version has not even been officially announced yet.

Octavian Damiean

11:22

Oh hello. :)

Sathya

oh hey @OctavianDamiean

welcome to Super User chat

Octavian Damiean

Thanks thanks.

tombull89

Come to escape the M.SO madness?

Sathya

well MSO should be calm for the next 40 days

tombull89

@Sathya oh?

Sathya

11:32

ever wonder why the chatter went down after Rebecca & Jeff entered ;)

tombull89

>:-D

Octavian Damiean

I'm not sure if it wasn't Ben.

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 3 hours ago, by balpha

so much for sending a private picture to a private chat room :)

I might be wrong because I was reading the transcript when that happened.

Sathya

@OctavianDamiean about this moment on

Octavian Damiean

Oh I've missed that one.

> a christmas tree of downvotes

Awesome.

tombull89

oh, right. It did go quiet indeed.

This is just M.SO chat though, not SO or anything else?

Sathya

11:37

I'd assume just MSO for now

tombull89

would explain that:

2 hours ago, by hotveryspicy

problem is related to android may i ask here?

Octavian Damiean

By the rate they screw up it doesn't take long before they are gone everywhere.

tombull89

Any movement on the Hindi.Programmers proposal?

(apart from "down")

Sathya

@OctavianDamiean yep.

@tombull89 heh, none, so far

tombull89

@Sathya since even Jeff got involved I doubt it will see the light of day.

Sathya

11:43

@tombull89 wait, he did? When/where?

Octavian Damiean

Well he did, the proposal comes from the user that got suspended. ;)

tombull89

Well since he's changed the FaQ and was in the chat while they were spounting their nonsense I dare say he's aware.

Sathya

aha

Octavian Damiean

Now that is spooky!

tombull89

If it slides off the face of A51 very few will notice and even less will care.

@OctavianDamiean Which bit? :P

Octavian Damiean

11:45

The bit who has just flown into the chat.

Sathya

crawler bots, beware

PriceChild

@paradroid "continuing commitment" != "In Elop's words, there is no returning to MeeGo, even if the N9 turns out to be a hit." - hs.fi/english/article/…

@paradroid And lets face it... if it doesn't "rival Android or iOS" in a meaningful way (such as available apps) then it won't be desirable to the masses, meaning no juicy profits, meaning less resources spent on it until it dies.

I think they've made it clear they aren't going to invest into making it rival.

tombull89

@PriceChild To be honest, you're going to have to have one hell of a product to rival iOS or andrid as a smartphone OS.

Octavian Damiean

I'm so sad about how the MeeGo thing went.

Sathya

I need to make time to read John Siracusa's 19-page review of the OSX

Octavian Damiean

11:59

19! Someone has waaaayyy too much time.

tombull89

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Sathya

lolwut. ^

Octavian Damiean

lol

Journeyman Geek

lol

DMA57361

@tombull89 O_o what the?!

Journeyman Geek

12:00

that's the problem with excessively long EULAs

tombull89

@DMA57361 haha.

@JourneymanGeek True. For a programming assignment in college we had to create an installer and I put in a fake EULA that looked real but after you scrolled down a bit it just contained lorum ipsum and things like "you agree to sell your soul"

Octavian Damiean

Yea, unless you really read it you never really know what you sign for. Maybe you sign that you will hunt a unicorn every two months and no one would ever notice.

DMA57361

have they ever been proved to be truly enforceable, however?

Journeyman Geek

@tombull89: quite honestly, for most software, it should distill down to 'you have any rights accorded to you under local law, and any additional rights we grant to you.' as well as backup related things. It should quite easily fit into one screen

tombull89

The ELUA for Oracle VirtualBox's Extention Pack don't activeate the "next" button until you scroll all the way down.

@DMA57361 No idea.

DMA57361

12:04

@JourneymanGeek problem with that is that local rights probably pertain to purchasing "the software", not a license for it

Journeyman Geek

@DMA57361: well more specifically liability

here's the kicker - liability laws are generally spelt out, and you can't subtract from it in most cases.

Octavian Damiean

@JourneymanGeek Also if you don't include a notice that your company is not liable for any damage caused by the software or by what the user thinks is from your software then you might end up paying quite a bunch of money to some customers.

Journeyman Geek

@OctavianDamiean: two lines ;p

DMA57361

@JourneymanGeek depends on the font size ;P

Octavian Damiean

Comic Sans of course.

written at 10

maybe 8

Journeyman Geek

12:06

"we're not liable for any damage caused by the software, except for as granted by local laws. :

and i hate it when you need to agree to the gpl to install things

the GPL does NOT affect the end user

Octavian Damiean

But it makes the EULA look very important.

DMA57361

@JourneymanGeek true, but I suppose the liability cause is probably only a very small part of most EULAs

Octavian Damiean

Lots of acronyms are intimidating.

Journeyman Geek

@DMA57361: there's ownership.. maybe another 2-3 lines

"you do not own this sofware, you have a licence to use this software on one system and this licence is/is not transferrable between systems/users"

DMA57361

@JourneymanGeek yeah, and all the licensing guff - don't broadcast, don't loan, etc, etc

Journeyman Geek

12:09

@DMA57361: "not transferable" handles resale (though some places explicitly make it legal) and loans

if not for lawyers, you could actually write readable licences! ;p

DMA57361

anything wrt to the seller removing services when they want (ie, central servers)

@JourneymanGeek definitely

Octavian Damiean

I hate licences and all that stuff though. I think everything should be licensed under the WTFPL.

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Journeyman Geek

@OctavianDamiean: or sell software, not licences

Octavian Damiean

Well I'm more for selling support.

Journeyman Geek

eh, i'm not entirely sold on that model, if its just software

paradroid

12:13

@PriceChild Yes, it is not for the mass market, It's a niche for geek techies. I am much more interested in it than any iPhone. I was going to get an N900 a couple of years ago, but it was just too big and clunky.

Octavian Damiean

The MeeGo SDK is still not available for Ubuntu 11.04 which makes me go -___-

paradroid

And that quote was by the MS plant that was installed precisely to facilitate the move to Windows Phone 7.

I'm off for lunch...

Sathya

12:28

laters folks

PriceChild

@tombull89 Which is why Nokia are giving up on it :-) That's my point. They're not committed to it.

HackToHell

hai guys do you know a command that sets file and folder sttributes

@JourneymanGeek i never did it called him and told him i can't do it

PriceChild

@HackToHell OS?

HackToHell

windows

i remember having used it to set System file attributes

Sathya

@HackToHell attrib or icacls

HackToHell

12:30

@Sathya ah yes thanks :)

@Sathya icacls is for servers .. attrib does the trick

Sathya

it's not for servers

HackToHell

@Sathya then . .. ? support.microsoft.com/kb/919240

Octavian Damiean

12:46

amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBUXSA/?tag=codihorr-20

Did I miss something? There are On-CPU GPUs?

facepalm I should just scroll down and read.

DMA57361

:)

I think "yes" probably answers all of those points

Octavian Damiean

Also I should definitely crawl out from under the rock I've been hiding for the past few years and try to catch up with the new technology.

DMA57361

meh, I keep meaning to do that, but whenever I've bothered in the past I found I've just caught up on old technology by the time I'm done

Octavian Damiean

Ah, I know why I got into that situation. Shiny new hardware attracts me and triggers a do-want reflex.

Nothing my wallet would be thankful for.

DMA57361

yeah, quite dangerous

tombull89

12:53

@OctavianDamiean I tend to have that a lot. My wallet, however, also keeps me in check.

Octavian Damiean

Damn you Jeff with your computer building blog posts!

tombull89

@OctavianDamiean I know, I've got itchy clicky fingers on that case.

Octavian Damiean

Me too. :D

tombull89

Payed my car insurance today, I can't drop ~£90 on a computer case.

Octavian Damiean

Yea me neither. I want tons of other things already. Ranging from a Nexus S to shiny Arduino toys.

tombull89

12:55

That's a nice processor...drool.

Hoping to get enough togther for a new phone for my 22nd on Monday. Current choices: Sony Ericsson Arc, HTC Legend, or Samsung Galaxy S II.

Octavian Damiean

Nexus S. :D

Get two and send me one.

tombull89

£429.99?! eesh.

Octavian Damiean

Yea but for that you'll get a default Android experience.

tombull89

Better start gambling.

new123456

13:18

Check this out - relative statistics for SuperUser OS based questions I compiled this morning. The "MindShare" metric is basically the question share scaled to market share. Data here ->http://s385.photobucket.com/albums/oo300/new123456_photos/?action=view&current=‌superuser-os-mindshare.png

Sorry, wrong URL. i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo300/new123456_photos/…

DMA57361

@new123456 where'd the source data come from?

new123456

@DMA57361 The OS Market Share Data? From a January 2011 report: connectwww.com/operating-system-market-share-january-2011/756. A little old, yeah, but still interesting

DMA57361

no, the question # data

new123456

@DMA57361 SuperUser's tag system. Windows = [windows] + [windows-7] + [windows-vista] + [windows-xp]. Mac = [mac] + [osx]. Linux = [linux] + [ubuntu]. Android and iOS have their own respective tags.

DMA57361

what about windows-2000? 95 and 98? (although rare, without them you're dropping data)

and things tagged with OS-specific things that might not have a OS tag?

and, presumably, you've accounted for cross-over - ie, is question tagged both [windows] and [windows-7] (which it shouldn't be, but these will happen) counted once or twice?

new123456

13:30

@DMA57361 I'll probably make a new metric in a while, but this was pretty simplified. Good thought as far as OS-specific tags, but that would've taken actual work ;)

DMA57361

what % of all questions did you count in the end? it'd be a rough guide to accuracy

new123456

@DMA57361 I came up with 52,668 questions tagged with OS tags in all (out of ~85871 for the whole site). I've still got the raw nubmers in a .txt, if you want to look at it.

Simon Sheehan

What about the serious OS - DOS!

new123456

@SimonSheehan Surely you meen MS-DOG?

Octavian Damiean

:/

DMA57361

13:33

@new123456 naa, that's fine, I'm quite happy to sit over here and poke holes in your numbers without really being helpful ;)

you're using the data explorer, I presume?

new123456

@DMA57361 What do you mean by that? You mean the actual database dumps (which I think the site still offers)?

Simon Sheehan

@DMA sounds like he used search to me :P

DMA57361

@new123456 the data explorer -> data.stackexchange.com <- lets you query the last data dump, which IIRC was updated a few days ago

new123456

@DMA57361 Thanks, I've been looking for that URL for a while. I'll have to brush up on my SQL. Is there a list of all the table's names and columns?

DMA57361

@new123456 when you go in to compose the full key is on the right of the entry box

Simon Sheehan

13:41

Well anyway, good morning everyone. coming up to the hottest day ever in Ontario

DMA57361

@SimonSheehan afternoon and how hot is "hottest"?

Simon Sheehan

@DMA 48c. Currently 39c and rising (with the humidity)

DMA57361

ouch :S

Octavian Damiean

48 °C?! Say whaaaaat?

ManjotSingh

Try to write what instead of whaaaaat

Simon Sheehan

13:48

Yeah, big ouch. I'm hiding indoors today I believe. Except to swim

DMA57361

@SimonSheehan presumably if that's a semi-common temp you've got a/c?

Sathya

@HackToHell "available on Windows Server 2003" is different from "only for servers"

btw @SimonSheehan I finished those courses by 12:00pm :D

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya Very nice :D @DMA this is Ontario, so winter temp average is -15C, summer maybe 25C. I do have a/c luckily

25-30c without the humidity is normal. It hasn't rained in a month and we've had wicked humidity though.

DMA57361

@new123456 - I got bored, so you can try this data.stackexchange.com/superuser/q/106447 as a starting point

Octavian Damiean

@ManjotSingh I know quite exactly why I write what I write.

DMA57361

13:52

@SimonSheehan fair enough, still ouch :S

Simon Sheehan

@DMA I'll survive one day ;) Interesting fact though. In 1938 I believe, we had our first record breaking temp of 38 degrees, and that's when we started recurring temperatures here. 80 years and 10 degrees later..

Either 38' or 49'

DMA57361

fun times :S

ManjotSingh

@OctavianDamiean No issues

DMA57361

I think the highest temp recorded round here isn't past the mid-thirties

Simon Sheehan

@DMA where do you live?

DMA57361

13:56

@SimonSheehan UK, Essex

Simon Sheehan

Oh okay. Does temperature not flucuate as much there?

DMA57361

not so severely as you

-15°C would be pretty rare, even at the dead of night

and summers often peak in the high 20s

Simon Sheehan

As I said to @Sathya last night, lowest I remember is -50, then there's today's 48. So almost a 100 degree difference :/

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