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allquixotic
allquixotic
00:32
!!does my cat know she's a good girl?
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@allquixotic Certainly
Bob
Bob
00:49
> If your PC gets infected, immediately disconnect the LAN cable first.
- Disconnect the LAN cable immediately to prevent further spreading of the infection.
!!toostupid
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob actually in some cases that makes sense
@allquixotic She's a cat. She's beyond your petty human morality.
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
@Bob That's how it spreads!
 
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
02:02
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this is actually pretty scary (and they're nice enough to warn you)
 
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Bob
Bob
05:15
...
open VMware player
it prompts for update
start update
updater complains that VMware is open
current situation: VMware is waiting on the updater to finish which is waiting for VMware to be closed which requires that the updater is finished which...
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
05:30
lol
solution? KILL THEM ALL god BOB WILL KNOW HIS OWN!
excellent
samba set up on the pi
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Cool: CodeMirror seems to explicitly support PhantomJS
@JourneymanGeek ...
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
what? ;p
 
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Bob
Bob
06:36
ugh
not liking the new FF theme much
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
nightly?
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ya
@JourneymanGeek though, if/when they get rid of the menu-on-alt, I think I really will leave
IE11 is actually pretty good
hm
considering waterfox and palemoon, actually
especially palemoon has a more conventional UI :P
(and they're also supposed to be faster - 64-bit and uses newer instructions)
Sathya
Sathya
07:26
@KronoS @slhck @terdon thanks guys :)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob: I'm trying bvckup (on the client side) + smb to transfer files to the pi. I'm hitting close to 30 mb/s according to iftop ;p
(compared to 2mb/s earlier)
Bob
Bob
07:58
o.O
@JourneymanGeek that's.. not possible
wait, Mb or MB?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Mb
(though this is wireless -> router -> wire -> raspi)
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
08:18
Could laptop's battery life decrease fast due to Express Charge than Standard Charge?
 
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Gowtham
Gowtham
09:29
yew, the new bar sucks
Bob
Bob
@Gowtham considering a userscript to mimic the old one :P
probably not worth the effor, though
except maybe adding hot questions back
that's the most annoying change
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob: and removing the chat link
Gowtham
Gowtham
haha buzzfeed.com/regajha/…
Bob
Bob
oh god, tumblr gifs
Bob
Bob
09:57
@JourneymanGeek Yay, mech keyboard preorder is gonna be shipped on the 11th
should be here just in time for Christmas, with any luck :P
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
yay
I need to clean my other keyboard :/
its completely covered in dust
Bob
Bob
o.O
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob: we have a few contruction sites nearby, and we have visitors who keep opening the window
it just needs a wipedown, but yanno
no one actually bothers to do these things
Bob
Bob
dunk in isoprop :P
(kidding - don't actually do that...)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
Bob
Bob
09:59
ooh, compressed air works too
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob: brother's in laws are over and are sleeping in the room most of the tools and the shared computer is in
Bob
Bob
I'm keeping my empty-ish can for the little bits of dust :P
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
oh, we're far past canned air
Bob
Bob
o.o
...why do I have 400 tabs open
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
only?
SIGNS OF IMPROVEMENT!
Gowtham
Gowtham
10:01
lol
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I cleared it down to 0 a few weeks ago
Bob
Bob
10:14
user image
Gowtham
Gowtham
10:35
That's my wallpaper ^_^
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
11:07
that is a rediculously photogenic cat
Bob
Bob
11:18
vimeo. what the fuck. 1.1kB/s is not remotely acceptable for video
Gowtham
Gowtham
11:34
@_@
economist.com/content/big-mac-index
Paul
Paul
12:18
I am orbiting for the first time
Though periapsis is 3200 meters so I don't think this will end well
Gowtham
Gowtham
12:35
@Paul KSP ♥
The only problem with that game is it's old game engine
It runs on a single core and doesn't use the GPU
and it needs a shit ton of RAM
Paul
Paul
13:20
@Gowtham All the tutorials seem to be for non-career mode, where you already have lots of options. Find a mix that will get high enough to do an orbit burn by trial and error is tricky in career mode. And if I get anywhere close to success, the pod parachute will fail without fail.
deed02392
deed02392
I think my question needs mod attention
-1
Q: Windows 7/8 Access Point No Authentication/Encryption?

deed02392I want to use my laptop as an access point, but the default provided tool: netsh wlan hostednetwork only offers acting as an access point with WPA2. I want to create either no authentication or WEP (this is all my UART-WIFI chip supports): I have seen two 3rd party utilities in the wild for...

windows wireless-networking
The question has been downvoted incorrectly IMO and the answer has been upvoted incorrectly (completely misses the point of the question)
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@deed02392: thats not what mods do
Gowtham
Gowtham
@Paul lolol
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
they can't overturn a downvote or an upvote
deed02392
deed02392
Hmm
well the question on the whole is of pretty poor quality now then
I mean, I think it's a valid question
but the votes don't make any sense
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:25
@deed02392: might help to add what your chipset is
and is using a linux vm and a usb wifi card an option?
deed02392
deed02392
Well the actual issue I was wanting to solve has been now, but I wasn't able to find an answer elsewhere online
But I still think this might be something others might find useful
It's just lucky I'm able to run tcpdump on my router which is probably quite a rare ability
Could you at least upvote it if you think it's a valid question
The guy who downvoted it has since removed all his comments on the question anyway
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@deed02392: the reason I asked is I recall some ralink adaptors came with software that allowed you to do this - it might be answerable assuming you had the right adaptor
and I suggested linux cause hostapd would work here
hmm
I hit 2K answers today :)
Bob
Bob
How about Connectify?
deed02392
deed02392
Hm well I'm at work now so can't check the chip, iirc it's a modern intel one (abgn) with 5 GHz etc.. I am absolutely confident it'd all be gravy in Linux but when you have only Win8 installed and nothing spare to boot linux off, you just want to download a program and it works
@Bob how 'bout it?
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 How about trying/using it?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:40
ahh, so what I'm thinking of isn't as likely to work
support.connectify.me/entries/…
deed02392
deed02392
@Bob what makes you think it will work? That kind of program isn't the sort of thing I should be researching at work
Bob
Bob
wat. TeamViewer 9?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
connectify is likely to work
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 what makes you think it's not going to work?
deed02392
deed02392
...
I'll look when I get home in a few hours then
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:41
@deed02392: my bad, connectify is out
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Ah, so no infrastructure with WEP? Bleh.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@deed02392: would setting up an ad-hock ap be an option?
yup
deed02392
deed02392
@JourneymanGeek the devices interface does offer an Ad-hoc based connection yeah
this is one of those wifi plugs in case you're wondering
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@deed02392: that might be your solution then
deed02392
deed02392
I wanted to MITM its wireless connection so I could dump the on-off packets and reverse engineer it's protocol
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:43
o0
deed02392
deed02392
I mean, as I said I achieved that by using tcpdump on my router
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ahh k ;p
deed02392
deed02392
And have written a server emulator etc
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(this is what happens when you ask a question on chat. If no one knows, we dissect it ;p)
deed02392
deed02392
yeah so really we just need an actual answer to this question, no need to dissect
Unless we all think there are always better ways
In which case maybe the best course is to remove the question
Bob
Bob
13:44
=> cheap router?
deed02392
deed02392
@Bob?
Bob
Bob
you can get a basic WiFi router for $10 now
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
o0
@Bob: really?
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek well, I got a decent one for $15 new
deed02392
deed02392
a tinkerer like me doesn't want to wait a week to receive a cheap router JUST for something like this
Bob
Bob
13:45
a really basic one? sure, why not
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
the cheapest I'm seeing is about 30 bucks
for those tiny tplinks
deed02392
deed02392
whether it's cheap or not
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 heh, I just went to a local store :P
deed02392
deed02392
haha
well here in the UK they'll laugh you out the store for something as cheap as that on the high street
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(actually, tempted to get one of those that you can slot a wlan dongle in)
deed02392
deed02392
13:46
you're looking at £40 minimum for a router on the high street
ie $60+
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23471&pid=44026&p=product
deed02392
deed02392
@allquixotic hey what's wrong with the new bar
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 lack of hot questions :(
(I don't like the new location much)
might also reskin it to be lighter. stands out far too much
deed02392
deed02392
oh what
I thought they were updating the hot questions algorithm
not removing it
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hmm
Bob
Bob
13:48
@deed02392 they also moved it to the middle right of the homepage
it's just an inconvenient spot
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
cheapest router I can find on dx is ~15usd
Bob
Bob
especially since I normalyl stay on the questions page, not the homepage
@deed02392 ouch
deed02392
deed02392
strange
Bob
Bob
any small electronics/computer stores?
that's the kind of price I'd expect from a chain store here
deed02392
deed02392
@Bob not really, all the chains out-compete them by far
there's a warehouse store but it's not easy for me to get to where I don't drive
they might sell one as low as $20-25
but basically, if you want cheap you have to order online
roll on drone deliveries
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:49
heh
Bob
Bob
ah here it is, the one I got: arc.com.au/pub.php?pid=43770&p=product
Oh, it was $22? Eh, close enough.
that was for a guest AP
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob: I need to consider setting up one ;p
we already have 2 APs though
deed02392
deed02392
but then what @Bob, how does one dump packets going through it
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(oh and we have that unsecured AP downstairs ;p)
deed02392
deed02392
if it's that cheap it probably doesn't have that ability
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
13:51
@deed02392: just curious - what's your AP?
That Brazilian Guy
That Brazilian Guy
Have bookmarklets been disabled on FF?
deed02392
deed02392
I've got a Linksys E3000 @JourneymanGeek :)
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 you can chuck dd-wrt on it
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ahh
Bob
Bob
or you cna put it after your computer
deed02392
deed02392
13:51
with Tomato on it
Bob
Bob
i.e. internet => computer => router => other dvice
deed02392
deed02392
and I found a build of tcpdump for it online
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I nearly got a linksys but I've been hearing not so nice things about them
Bob
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy nah
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ended up getting an asus
deed02392
deed02392
13:52
@Bob then you need two interfaces on your computer
Bob
Bob
but javascript: in the address bar has
deed02392
deed02392
which I suppose my laptop has
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 depends how you have it set up, but possibly, yes.
That Brazilian Guy
That Brazilian Guy
@Bob Doesn't all bookmarklets do that?
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@deed02392: or like I do, you have a usb ethernet device in your spares bin
Bob
Bob
13:53
actually, there's another way, and it's what I have working with my raspberry pi router
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(of course, drivers for it no longer exist for modern windows versions...)
deed02392
deed02392
I think I do @JourneymanGeek but I don't think it has any 64 bit drivers
Bob
Bob
@ThatBrazilianGuy no, they disabled the typed ones specifically
deed02392
deed02392
@JourneymanGeek ^
heh
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@deed02392: damned thing is a relic. I do believe I've had it since my first PC build
Bob
Bob
13:54
@deed02392 basically, you have your router, you can put your computer behind it, and you set up a forwarding router/gateway on your computer
That Brazilian Guy
That Brazilian Guy
I can't use this (the "read now" bookmarklet) to read this of FF 25 linux =/
Not typed, but cliked from the favorites bar
Bob
Bob
you tell the compute rto use a static gateway (the router)
deed02392
deed02392
I got it from our network provider when we first upgraded to... 512 kbps! :o
Bob
Bob
then you set it up to broadcast DHCP (disable that on the router), with itself as the gateway
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
old cable modem (which was a tank, only replaced it cause of VOIP)
Bob
Bob
13:54
any new device will send all packets to the computer, which will forward to the router gateway
it's hackish, but it works
(and it's my current throttling setup :D)
deed02392
deed02392
yeah it works @Bob, but we're still a long way from just having a nice open access point running under Windows :)
which should really be 5 minutes installing a program
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 that's just a way to get a hardware router to work
which I would prefer, anyway - I'd actually rather an additional hardware device over fiddling with wifi on my laptop -_-
@deed02392 Funnily enough, I often find ordering online from the UK is cheaper than online local :S
deed02392
deed02392
seriously @Bob?
and you're US?
Bob
Bob
@deed02392 Aus
US shipping to Aus is crazy
deed02392
deed02392
oh sorry, I was talking USD earlier
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