Even if Windows does get re-written from ground up, at some point, the technology will become outdated (like the 90's technology that Windows is based on is outdated now) and people will find bugs and problems again and call for Windows to be re-written again.
just stop a moment and think back... Microsoft supposedly stopped support of Win95 couple of years back... why is still offering support (in the way of "capability") with each version of Windows?
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute obviously; that's called innovation -- moving forward with new ideas... compatibility inevitably holds you back to the least common denominator of the stuff you're trying to support
I understand that, but if you just straight up cut out compatibility, then half the applications that run today will not be able to run. There will be an epic amount of panic everywhere. At that point, you have to force all the developers to re-write/modify their application to fit the new OS.
at some point in our history, we learned that houses are better than huts... this broke compatibility with people who liked to hang animal skins over their huts, and now people needed to build doors, which were an additional requirement... but we acknowledge that houses are better than huts because they're sturdier and safer and keep out the environment better
modern roads with a speed limit in the tens of miles per hour break compatibility with horse and buggy, which can't go nearly fast enough to not be run over on the highway
it takes people a long time to adjust to a new thing when you break compatibility, but eventually they'll adjust
it's going to take us another 10 or 20 years as it is to get everyone to at least use a hybrid vehicle, if not full-on electric
@allquixotic That's common sense and something every person can understand. However, not every person is computer savvy or know much about computer. You know, people resist to change. And when they see an un-needed change (since they don't understand how the OS improved), they will keep resisting.
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute but eventually their resistance will be broken when their hardware stops working and they can't buy replacement parts, and the only new computers that are being sold all run only the next-generation system
this is exactly what happened when people with loads of 16-bit DOS programs were forced to start using 32-bit Windows and a majority of those DOS programs wouldn't work anymore (especially the ones that wanted to run in "real mode")
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute temporarily, yes, but eventually they catch up -- they're what you call "late adopters"
Average consumer doesn't buy it because they don't understand why they are being asked to upgrade to "the same OS" but only without any support for their programs.
when there's a compatibility break in something that a large number of people depend on, there is a sort of curve of adoption... there are enthusiasts who download the alpha/beta, followed by early adopters who upgrade right away when it's released as a final product, followed by mainstream who upgrades in 1-2 years, followed by late adopters who upgrade within 10 years
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute if microsoft blows up tomorrow and says that will not support any version of windows but "doors" (I just like the ring of it, so bear with it) people will have to adapt themself the same way they adapted to XP, Vista, 7, 8, Win 3.11, Win 95
of course you can hear stories 50 years hence of some dusty old machine in the back of an office that nobody knows how it works that still runs Windows XP, but that will be the 0.00001% by then
all the statistics and surveys show that Windows XP usage continues to decline... and versions of Windows prior to XP are in the "noise" levels by now (less than 0.1%)
the only thing Microsoft is afraid of with a total compatibility break is that people will take the opportunity of the compatibility break to jump to something completely different, like Linux, BSD, or Mac
because if you're going to not be able to run all of your old programs, you're just as well moving to another system that's free
they'll probably keep support for the original Win32 API around at least another 5-10 years, until typical PCs (even small laptops) are more than fast enough to run a Windows 8.1 virtual machine without even blinking an eye; that way, they'll be able to let people run their old programs, but completely re-engineer the whole system from the ground up for the new "native" programs
Windows 8.2 in 2014 only goes till XP, 8.3 in 2015 only goes till Vista, 8.4 only goes till Windows 7. Windows 9 only goes till Windows 8. Windows 9.1 (or 10) doesn't go back.
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute they've been doing something similar to that in little bits; 16-bit program compatibility was dropped entirely for everything after 32-bit Vista
64-bit Vista, 64-bit Win7, 32-bit Win7, etc. don't support 16-bit programs at all
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the biggest ABI compatibility layer that they're afraid to break is the Win32 API though
meaning 32-bit Windows DLLs and EXEs targeting approximately the Windows NT API and later (with some legacy support for even older stuff, back to Windows 95)
Doubt they will remove WOW (Windows on Windows) when it already works fine and provides for 32bit DLL and application support on 64bit Windows systems.
Technically they couldn't without a rewrite of WOW - the processors dropped the needed addressing modes.
@Brian 16-bit addressing mode was only dropped in long mode, AFAIK; they have to keep 16-bit addressing mode around at least until the eradication of the BIOS, because AFAIK many BIOSes are written as 16-bit programs
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute all modern PCs produced by OEMs are "64-bit PCs", in the sense that they possess the 64-bit ISA -- but the question is whether they come preinstalled with a 32-bit or 64-bit OS, which is left up to the vendor, unless and until Microsoft stops offering a 32-bit OS at all
@allquixotic That's what I meant. Limit Windows to 64-bit only. That way, if you want Windows, you need x64 processor. Which drives innovation forward because it brings the world on a better piece of technology.
The various 16bit addressing methods work in 16bit CPU mode and 32bit CPU mode but not in 64bit mode. The way WOW was designed was everything has to run under the same CPU mode so out went 16bit support.
While 64-bit copies of Windows 8 do not support 16-bit applications, they are still supported on 32-bit copies[1][2][3]. However, they are not supported by default and must be manually turned on with a Control Panel applet:
hopefully in the mobile world we jump to ARM64 fast enough that people won't have time to accumulate crufty old legacy programs that are unmaintained -- the only apps they'll demand to keep are ones that are still being supported by their devs, who'll just compile a new ARM64 version
won't be long until we can fit 4 GB of RAM into a smartphone, and even less time for a 10" tablet
you can keep a Windows 1.0 computer running as long as you can find replacement parts as the mechanical components fail over time
there's nothing forcing you to upgrade, but people who feel threatened by the lack of compatibility because they fear the unknown of having to go out and find new programs, often perceive it as "forcing"
what they really mean to say is that they want Microsoft to continue being backwards compatible forever, and hold back the advancement and evolution of the platform by doing so
If Windows gets re-written, then software will get rewritten for support on it too, which would mean that people would either have to upgrade for the latest software or stick with what eventually becomes outdated software.
Chicken and egg - users won't go to a new platform until there are lots of apps for it and developers won't create apps until there are a lot of users.
@Brian and sometimes it can take a decade for a program to reach beta
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute there's quite a fair bit of software that would have to be rewritten from the ground up if there are any major changes
a single rewrite is more feasible than testing and modifying (oh god the mess of code) every year for a new update, but there's still going to be a lot of small teams and open source projects left behind
Since Windows XP is compatible with everything, you just re-write Windows from ground up and for compatibility, you include XP Mode by default. Compatibility issues solved. Better Windows solved.
This is MSFT we are talking about, they'll pull all-nighters every day for a year to get it done, just so they can get the epic amount of money from it. lol
in my pc ,
when i copying the files, & audio player (vlc,mpc) are both start
then my speaker was a lil noise,
(ex..tttttttttttttrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggg),
& mouse pointer are slowly moving
& my win xp boot loading is slow
please, solve my problem.
please.
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@JourneymanGeek It's bad for you. Every journal edition says coffee is either good or bad and they seem cannot decide which is it. Where do they get their information from? British scientists? I feel they just try to churn as much as they can to keep their journals selling.
@JourneymanGeek lol why would you drink coffee at 7 in evening? This interferes with your sleeping/waking cycle (carcadian cycle?). It won't be easy to restore them back to normal.
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I have found a solution for Notepad ++ , while it shows error Check if this file is open in another program
here link:
http://stackoverflow.com/q/19856853/2591833
I... I don't understand.
Not only is it not an answer and horrible abuse of headings, it's linking to an unanswered SO question..?
I have quad core cpu Q6600
Today i added second video card and then i see that CPU temperature reached to 88c
I want to know that can video card do that or something else is wrong.
I checked the temp with speedfan and RPM was 2500
I have very hot climate here as well
@OliverSalzburg Sounds like @allquixotic's magic string...
icacls:
perm is a permission mask and can be specified in one of two forms:
a sequence of simple rights:
N - no access
F - full access
M - modify access
RX - read and execute access
R - read-only access
W - write-only access
D - delete access
a comma-separated list in parentheses of specific rights:
DE - delete
RC - read control
WDAC - write DAC
WO - write owner
access permissions
Access permissions may be specified in either short or long form.
Short and long forms may not be mixed. Permissions in long form
are separated by the `/' character; in short form, they are con-
catenated together. Valid permissions are:
Short Long
r read_data
w write_data
x execute
p append_data
D delete_child
d delete
a read_attributes
A write_attributes
R read_xattr
acl_perm_t ae_perm
This field defines what kind of access the process matching this ACL
has for accessing the associated file. For POSIX.1e ACLs, the fol-
lowing are valid:
ACL_EXECUTE The process may execute the associated file.
ACL_WRITE The process may write to the associated file.
ACL_READ The process may read from the associated file.
ACL_PERM_NONE The process has no read, write or execute per-
missions to the associated file.
For NFSv4 ACLs, the following are valid:
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after recording the data and scope readings, the Allied exploded. And I'm not talking about the quiet pop of a blown fuse either, this was something to make one holler things like, "Incoming!" "Honey, I'm so scared, what's happening?" and, "You'll never take me alive, coppers!" This was accompanied by a light show to rival the best Hollywood pyrotechnics displays. I distinctly heard Mother Nature yell out, "Now that's not fair, I can do lightning WAY better than that!"
I think the CPU is total overkill for gaming and is quite expensive. But it might be a good choice if you are going to keep the box for 5 years without CPU upgrades.
1TB disk is cheap and small. It will do just fine for gaming (though I am a SSD fan) and getting a slightly larger disk might only add $10. This also fall sunder future proofing and it is a later replaceable part
The PSU... Well, I spent weeks reading reviews on mine since I wanted a silent PC
@JourneymanGeek I've always wished for that, because some games run better with Nvidia, and some run better with AMD... I guess if you had both in the same system and some way to flip a switch to change HDMI outputs and disable one card, you'd be good, but can the drivers coexist on the same Windows install?
it almost seems like, if LucidLogix didn't entirely suck as a company and fail to maintain and support their products post-release, they could actually develop an on-motherboard chip that could somehow unify the render between an AMD and Nvidia card and use them both at once
or at worst, let you pick which one to render from for each application process
@JourneymanGeek I don't think they let you pick the card, they just let you pick the renderer... OpenGL, D3D hardware, or software
you can't (traditionally, or even today, without LucidLogix) issue the graphics processing commands to GPU on card X and render to the framebuffer on card Y
unless you write your entire rendering engine as a ray-tracing OpenCL program
never heard of that prior to Virtu MVP (except Nvidia Optimus, but that's basically a better, but Nvidia+Intel-specific, variant on LucidLogix, and the whole system is baked into the hardware)
While 64-bit copies of Windows 8 do not support 16-bit applications, they are still supported on 32-bit copies[1][2][3]. However, they are not supported by default and must be manually turned on with a Control Panel applet:
An easy solution is available @ http://kishan1408.in/blog/shortcut-link-virus/ .download relief.zip from the link and replace the letter "j" in relief.bat by the drivename of ur flash drive and run run.vbs.
I have found a solution for Notepad ++ , while it shows error Check if this file is open in another program
here link:
http://stackoverflow.com/q/19856853/2591833
I have quad core cpu Q6600
Today i added second video card and then i see that CPU temperature reached to 88c
I want to know that can video card do that or something else is wrong.
I checked the temp with speedfan and RPM was 2500
I have very hot climate here as well
awk 'BEGIN { COLM_FMT = "%-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s, %-8s,\n" }
{ printf COLM_FMT, ${totals[0]}, ${totals[1]}, ${totals[2]}, ${totals[3]}, ${totals[4]}, ${totals[5]}, ${totals[6]}, ${totals[7]},
${totals[8]}, ${totals[9]},...
