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Psycogeek

13:00

@Boris_yo premium midi samples hey :-) How to fit a great game on 1/2 a floppy disk?

looks like pure kindergarden, i cant believe i played such things for hours on end.

Bob

oh for FUCK's sake

same error

@root no prob

I'm going to rip the wifi card out and try again tomorrow

Psycogeek

@Bob step away from the computer, and close the window, or you will find out why it is called windows.

Cause it makes you want to chuck it out the damn windows

Braiam

@Psycogeek shhhh! he's a windows monk :P

is something else but windows :P

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek That's 2013 version? Why such graphics?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo it doesnt look like the original does it :-) i think that might be good. top down 3D

Boris_yo

13:10

@Psycogeek I wish it looked like Might and Magic VII

Psycogeek

@Braiam tomorrow he will wake up windows will have installed itself, repaired itself, and will be sitting there all innocent looking with big puppy dog windowed eyes , and then you wonder what was all the fuss last night :-)

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek What do you think of games like Rollercoaster Tycoon, Zoo Tycoon, Theme Hospital, Theme Park?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo different. I would play one of the management and building games . I played wildlife park, it was interesting for some time.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek This Bard's Tale YouTube video you showed me has game made in 2004.

gog.com/game/the_bards_tale

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo ohh. ok. So i will play it in 2013 i guess

@Boris_yo I think this kind of "memories of the old games" might be better than playing the amiga version on an emulator

Boris_yo

13:21

@Psycogeek Not sure I can put myself through playing with these graphics... Maybe it is same thing what spoiled audience today says when they try to play 1997-2000 games?

Psycogeek

A Quest For Coin And Cleavage. thats catchy :-)

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Quest for coins in our modern days would sound like bum searches for money.

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo i do not understand what aspect of the grafics your referring to? the one you linked to looks like it is an old school, like low res or something?

I should see what the gameplay is like in video

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Yes, these are sprite graphics accelerated with 3D which I prefer more than 3D purely. That's me old timer. Gameplay and plot are great which justifies "weak" graphics.

user2493976

If a directory has the permission 777 and a file in it has the permission 000 what are the implications?

Psycogeek

13:30

@Boris_yo Aggg, that guy said it can take a month to play , and used words like "grinding" AKA endless milkrun?

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Which guy? That's because you need to build your character to appropriate levels to advance in game and game has many things.

Braiam

@user2493976 directory can be listed by anyone (anyone can cd to the directory) the file isn't readable/writeable/executable by anyone

user2493976

@Braiam and who can delete the file then?

Braiam

nobody, unless root

user2493976

not even the owner?

Braiam

13:32

yeah, the owner too

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo yes he said the world is huge.

Braiam

just that rm will tell you "remove write-protected regular empty file ‘file’?"

user2493976

ok

And if the owner of a file doesn't have write permissions but the group to which he/she belongs has, can the owner write to it?

Braiam

@user2493976 why don't you create a file and test?

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek How do you call in english person playing video games, who devotes most of his time to game, sitting on it days and weeks by exploring everything it offers, replaying game in order to explore something he didn't previously, in order to enjoy it fully? I am not sure about "nerd", "geek" and "wanker" but something close must be there.

user2493976

13:38

@Braiam I did, but its allowing write access on a UNIX emulator on Windows, but haven't got the chance to test on a full fledged linux

Boris_yo

In the end such person becomes expert in this game and reveals his findings in forums and answers questions of others. This is one of a few people who's aim is to master game.

Braiam

@user2493976 it ask you if you want to write the write-protected file in each case,

user2493976

@Braiam oh

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo loozer? :-) I dont know , the only term i know would be Gamer. Gamers is what i would call them, they know the games inside and out, they can tell you who made it, the creators, they can break all the puzzels in seconds, they know every trick in the book, and the videos make it look like a cakewalk.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek But there are games who don't put such efforts into games. They just play and that's it. Does that mean they are not gamers?

@Psycogeek In your definition I would call them "serious gamers". Like nerds who earn to get A+ in school and universities, who's passion is learning?

Psycogeek

13:47

Gamers destroy games for regular people :-) they are so good at the stuff, they demand that it be much harder, and complicated, and they set the reviews up , and the opinions for the rest of the community. Then games are made for them, because they are walking sales tools. But for me i wanted a bit more enjoyment without pure eazy.

@Boris_yo sure serious, or even PRO, getting paid to play.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Getting paid to complete levels for others? I don't know about paying because if you enjoy something, you do it for free.

Fatal1ty

Johnathan Wendel (born February 26, 1981), also known by the pseudonym Fatal1ty (pronounced Fatality), is a professional electronic sports player and entrepreneur. Johnathan is considered the world's first prominent and accomplished professional gamer. He is also considered one of the best professional gamers in the world. Biography Wendel has won approximately US$500,000 in cash and prizes from professional competitions, mainly in the Cyberathlete Professional League (CPL). In addition to receiving numerous product partnerships with his company Fatal1ty Brand (Fatal1ty, Inc.), he has ...

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo just getting paid to review, run a website that sells, being a beta tester and seller for the game company, making (minor) money off of making youtubes and having people watch them.

Sathya

@Boris_yo eSports Professionals

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo and them too, but if they made a game for him , nobody could play it :-)

Boris_yo

@Sathya Except "sports". Cyber sports I take? LAN parties competing with others?

@Psycogeek His is same serious gamer but with little difference because he plays in competitions against multiple players. Not everybody is like him and most get to know single player games inside out.

Sathya

13:54

@Boris_yo I take it you aren't aware of the The Invitational and many, many such tourneys

Boris_yo

@Sathya I call these LAN parties.

Sathya

@Boris_yo hardly lan 'parties'

Boris_yo

!!lanparty

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Psycogeek

@Boris_yo Its the reviewers that play a LOT of game, who can rambo an entier army in 10 seconds, find the secrets in 2, and get the girl before the hour is up. All talking about how stupidly Easy the game is . When i got to play the same thing, it wasnt "easy" , and by the time i could play it like they do, i am boored with the repetition.

Boris_yo

13:58

@Psycogeek They can't master game that fast. They just run through it with cheats claiming it's easy except AVGN unless they already mastered this game before.

Psycogeek

The reviewers have the say, a developer watches that, and he sees that the game he made is way to easy, and the next version, i cant even play.

Boris_yo

Fatal1ty - 1st thing comes to mind he started from Mortal Kombat games.

Well this man proved that career in gaming can be made... How can one dedicate entire life playing games competing against others? Doesn't that induce headache? Nearsightedness?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo my histroy with that goes back to Tomb Raider. game came out i Loved it, it was not easy, but it was fully playable. The experts get hold of it and make it look totally lame. The easy tomb raider Sold tons and tone. the next version harder and harder, did not sell as much.

@Boris_yo I would hope so, what fun would intense gaming be without causing physical deformities?

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Video games marketing hint - make it easy for audience and it will grow because not all are serious gamers.

@Psycogeek Did I forget to add impotency?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo Might be to late. some people who are older who would play the weak stuff, will no longer even turn one on.

Boris_yo

14:04

@Psycogeek You say the older person is, the less likely he is willing to play game with hard difficuly?

Psycogeek

Lets watch grampa go Online and get slaughtered by a bunch of 14 year olds, before he moves from his spawn location. Why he would lover that :-)

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Heh, what about grandpa who constantly plays games? Someone who played enough games through his life and holds hefty experience?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo wonder how many of them there are? really serious hard hitting games came to the arcades probably first? then 20 years for each generation. 2013-40 they would have started around 1973?

with what Pong and pacman?

I think i hit on another Reality show (ohh nooo) Pinball wizzard grampas playing online

I wonder if it can beat out "My mothers second wedding dress" reality show for the ratings spot :-)

or was that stupid enough for a reality show yet? how about "Me and My shoes" a reality show that has women out buying shoes?

Needs more flare. "Project Desperate $10,000 Shoe Survival" thatll do it. probably have at lest 20 viewers with a title like that.

Boris_yo

14:23

@Psycogeek Grandpas who played since 70s till 2010 will probably won't match against players in 2040 as game standards change, technology changes so previous experience will barely help...

Psycogeek

plus they need Twitch reflex

and one of these

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Braiam

15:09

@Psycogeek why that remember me Tron...?

allquixotic

15:27

wtf GStreamer SDK, why do you need 10 minutes to "Compute space requirements" when installing? Trust me, I have enough space... 7.4 TB free

Braiam

@allquixotic define "space" in GStreamer language :P

allquixotic

maybe it just couldn't believe that I had so much space

Braiam

lol, that applies too

allquixotic

@Braiam ffmpegcolorspace

Bob

15:44

@allquixotic hi there

allquixotic

hi

Bob

@allquixotic you got around to 8.1 yet?

Braiam

hey, you accept this kind of questions here?

Bob

@Braiam it's borderline

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Q: Should Tablet Computer questions be allowed on Super User?

I found out today that Tablet questions on Super User are closed as off-topic. Related question: Will iPad be acceptable subject matter for Super User? I guess not? There is no rational logic for this, since Tablet PCs are just a different form factor of computer, like laptops used to be. Ther...

Braiam

maybe Android Enthusiasts no?

Bob

15:54

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Q: Please vote on proposed changes to our policy on tablet computers

We recently asked how you feel about questions regarding Windows 8 on ARM. After looking through the answers and comments there, and some lengthy discussion amongst the moderators, we've come up with the following possible changes to our policies on tablets. As the nature of computing changes, s...

discussion allowed-topics scope

Braiam

yeah, seems that is more on topic in android

Bob

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Q: Will Android x86 questions be appropriate?

With the release of Android x86 available for running the Android OS on a PC, will we be accepting questions that pertain to this?

discussion question-appropriateness

Braiam

Done...

Bob

Should we be closing this question now that we effectively have a more recent version?

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Q: Should Tablet Computer questions be allowed on Super User?

The current policy by community consensus is: Allow appropriate tablet questions, but not actively encourage iOS and Android. Basically they will be treated like Ubuntu and OS X are treated right now. I found out today that Tablet questions on Super User are closed as off-topic. Relate...

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allquixotic

@Bob running it now

Bob

16:01

@allquixotic :\

I've wasted most of the day trying to upgrade

accompanied by a lot of swearing

you and your Surface :|

meanwhile, I need to figure out how to deal with Ralink's utterly worthless drivers

in all seriousness, though, congratulations :P

@allquixotic how are you liking 8.1? is it any better than 8, and should I even bother?

Braiam

@Bob extremetech.com/computing/…

Bob

@Braiam yes, well, I'm asking for a personal opinion from someone I highly respect :P

@Braiam also, that article isn't complete

I know for a fact that it's missing at least the encryption changes, if not more

Braiam

well, it says "complete" :P

also is June article... is old...

Bob

lol

Braiam

last minute changes aren't show

Bob

16:07

I'm pretty sure the FDE changes weren't last minute

but they also aren't very visible, and don't work on the majority of current hardware, so... yea

allquixotic

@Bob running Start8, it's exactly, completely identical, with absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever... but that's on my desktop

I'm sure it's much better on my Surface Pro, but I haven't updated it yet

Bob

ah. you got your desktop updated? nice

this just confirms that I have terribly bad luck at OS updates :P

allquixotic

the upgrade process was painless

Bob

I think OpenSUSE is the only one that's not completely died on me

allquixotic

this is the same desktop that epically failed to update from Win7 to Win8, though

Bob

16:12

Windows recovers far better than Ubuntu, I'll give it that much

but finding the cause is a pain

I don't want your fucking smiley face, gimme some more details and the path of the goddamned dump file

hm. I'm going to need more HDDs if I want to store all these images

allquixotic

upgrading Ubuntu is like taking a car completely apart then putting the engine on the roof, lining up the wheels and tires underneath the trunk, and installing the steering wheel and steering column coming out of the back seat

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Braiam

@Bob isn't that grandioso?

@allquixotic that's why I never "upgrade" anything :P

well, I did upgraded Debian... from stable to testing...

Bob

...I shoulda just grabbed a MSDN copy of 8.1, but I really cbf'd reinstalling everything

I think my last WIndows upgrade experience was 98 to XP

root

@Bob I'm playing around with that Powershell line some more, need to preserve file extensions 8-)

Bob

16:28

@root use .BaseName and .Extension instead of .Name

root

@Bob was just BaseName my first shot!

Bob

@root actually, even beter

just replace the contents of the parentheses

use this regex instead:

\(.*?\)

or, even better (if you only want to grab the last paren pair):

root

@Bob the contents of the filenames always vary, could be Foo Bar (Stuff) (Things) [OtherStuff] or Bar (Fooooo0x!$) [Things] (Other)

Bob

\(.*?\)(?=.*?$)

or if you want to eat up to the last dot:

root

the only constant in this large folder is the open parenth is the set character, with all the files, where I want to erase up to the "." of the file extension

Bob

16:35

\(.*(?=\..*?$)

wait no

that requires a dot

root

I do however like $.*?$, I'm still getting used to requiring a dot before "*"

Ariane

I'm up.

Time to read up on what @Bob wrote yesterday, for moving my Users folder.

Bob

@root yep:

PS > "Foo Bar (Stuff) (Things) [OtherStuff].txt" -replace "\(.*(?=\..*?$)", "(A)";
Foo Bar (A).txt

but that breaks if there isn't a dot

root

@Bob hmm let me pump this into RegexBuddy to help me understand better ;)

Bob

at which point you can go either more complex regex or just use basename and extension

root

16:38

so this wouldn't work if there were no file extension?

what would happen if the file were; Foo. Ba. r. (Stuff) (Things) [OtherStuff].txt

Ariane

@Bob I'm really not sure about the registry changes... The last time I changed, there were quite a few hardcoded paths and I shouldn't have changed them and I broke things. :/

Bob

@root would take from the first ( to the last .

root

@Bob mmm this may work well across the board, excellent suggestions

let me ponder

Bob

@root got the split version working:

gci | %{ren $_.Name "$($_.BaseName -replace `"\`(.*`", `"(USA)`")$($_.Extension)"}

(replace ren with the move thing to deal with brackets)

root

@Bob yea that seems most efficient. it's easy but redundant to replace all brackets prior to using Rename-Item

Bob

16:41

@root I'm just using ren because I'm not sure of the exact syntax for move right now

root

@Bob similar, just a flag for -LiteralPath I think

Bob

> Getting ready 99%

> Setting up a few more things 2%

oh for fuck's sake Microsoft

there's no bloody point in having a progress indicator if you just pull another level out of your arse -_-

I mean, if the messages were descriptive...

allquixotic

@Bob Windows 8.1 upgrade has about 12 of those

Bob

stupid illusion of progress

@allquixotic 12? -_-

is that a wild guess or is it actually 12?

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Schwit Janwityanujit

16:46

I would like to try going into network security and I'd like to start with my home network shared with my friends. I have a VERY basic understanding of computer networks; I know some TCP/IP, how to use WireShark, ARP poisoning, putty and the Windows network suite.

Some tasks I'd like to learn how to do include:

Bandwidth monitoring of devices attached to the router
Packet sniffing of the wireless
Break into the network without having the password (if the network is WPS)
Cut someone off the network

allquixotic

ok maybe more like 9

Bob

I think this is the 5th one

4 to go if I haven't missed any :(

allquixotic

@SchwitJanwityanujit ok, that's way too many questions to just paste in here like that -- even for the main site that's too many questions at once -- why don't you start by telling us what you've already tried?

Bob

@SchwitJanwityanujit bandwidth monitoring? what does that even mean?

jokerdino

that's a cool name.

Bob

16:47

WPS is very brute-forceable

Ariane

@Bob Actually once the download is finished and your computer asks you for the license terms you have like 5 minutes to go.

Bob

@Ariane nope

going on two hours here

Ariane

....why?

Schwit Janwityanujit

@Bob check how much traffic is going to each device :D

Bob

@Ariane you're asking me?

allquixotic

16:48

"packet sniffing" and "breaking in" are in many cases illegal cracking and I refuse to help you with those in any way... cutting someone off of the network, provided you are the administrator of the network, is quite easy -- either change the WPA password, or set up a MAC whitelist

Bob

@SchwitJanwityanujit you'd need to be the gateway if you're talking about traffic to another net

allquixotic

better yet, set up WPA2-EAP with mandatory client certs for authentication -- then you can really kick someone off

Bob

otherwise, you'd better hope you're using a managed switch

or a hub, but those are as good as dead

Ariane

I woke up this morning after leaving my PC running all night, and it was asking me to accept the license terms. All that was left at this point was to say the settings I wanted and then it prepared my user account which took a couple of minutes. Really, it's weird that it would take you so long.

Bob

@allquixotic eww client certs

that's a clusterfuck if I've ever seen one

@Ariane oh, never got up to the licence terms

Ariane

16:50

What's happening ATM?

Bob

it's also 4am and my patience is wearing thin

7 mins ago, by Bob

> Setting up a few more things 2%

Schwit Janwityanujit

What do you mean by "you'd need to be the gateway"?

Ariane

Hmm... well if you have an older installation I guess it can take longer.

jokerdino

@Bob hey, morning!

Bob

@SchwitJanwityanujit if it's a switched network and they don't send traffic to you, you aren't going to see any of it

so you cannot see what other clients are sending and receiving in a switched network

if you're talking about something going to another network through a gateway (normally, the hardware known as a router), then you'd need to be that gateway

if it's a hub, well, everything goes everywhere

Schwit Janwityanujit

16:52

Oh no I'm just doing this at home

Trying to monitor what goes where on the router

Bob

@SchwitJanwityanujit ...what's that supposed to mean?

most networks, home or otherwise, are on switched networks with a gateway for access to and from devices outside the local network

I don't care if it's a home network or in the middle of the NSA, the basics are the same

Schwit Janwityanujit

I don't understand. I'm just a guy with access to the home router and I want to see where traffic is sent on that router

what is this business about gateways?

Bob

...go reread my messages

Boris_yo

Isn't netstat a good tool to determine this? I know it shows active connections but never tried for traffic.

Braiam

a game about "real" hackers + guns:

►

Schwit Janwityanujit

16:59

Well I have access to the router/gateway, does that help?

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