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@Bob OMG :D Microsoft needs SE's "tags" feature!
they can have it! in fact, remove it from SE and give it to them for free!
Yeah, that's totally crazy. Shame on you MS!
But I'm not surprised...
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Ah well. If nothing else from a shitty day, I learned to properly debug BSoDs :D
@Sammy they don't have enough money to pay someone to go through all their downloads and categorize them :( poor little Microsoft, only making several hundred billion per year...
@allquixotic :)
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@allquixotic I think they had some semblance of categories a few years ago.
Then they decided to make Bing.
16:03
They only have the best programmers and computer science guys on the planet...
maybe if they had fewer Senior Chief Executive Do-Nothings whose sole purpose in life is to take home lots of money, they'd be able to afford a web developer
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(hint: all the links are broken)
wtf. You can drag&drop links to tabs now in Chrome
When was that added?
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I really would love to know why they purged it, though.
@OliverSalzburg Huh?
I've always been able to do that in FF...
Also reasonably certain IE does it too.
I never tried doing that, it just happened by accident :D
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16:05
> If you try to install NetFx20SP2_x86.exe on a x64 system you will get the following error message:

Cannot install on a 32-bit operating system
Well isn't that just lovely.
Not really sure how useful it is, but it seemed new
Maybe only the box you get under your cursor is new...
@Bob seems ok for Crazy Sammy, though, because apparently he's running Windows XP SP2 32-bit
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Why would they even have that error message?
@Bob wait.... what??????????????????????????
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16:07
@OliverSalzburg That's always been there too.
it can't install on a...
on a... 32-bit operating system?
the _x86.exe version???????
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Standard Windows cursor, I believe.
@allquixotic Ya, pretty much.
Someone was probably drunk.
@Bob Oh, well, nevermind then :D
that's one of those error messages that belongs in an image macro with the caption "WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU'LL SHIT BRICKS"
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@allquixotic Even worse...
> If you try to install NetFx20SP2_x86.exe on a x64 system
16:09
man, deed is a tease...
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So, that's three problems.
You're installing the 32-bit version on a 64-bit system and it's telling you... that it can't install on a 32-bit OS.
Wat.
eeeexactly :D
it may as well say, "Sorry, Itanium is not a supported platform! Shutting down your computer..."
(when you're actually running it on ARM)
I've always wanted an Itanium :( more L2/L3 cache than you could ever want or use, and you never will use that cache, because no programs run on it
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@allquixotic Which would be pretty amazing - you actually managed to execute it at all :P
@allquixotic I thought it could emulate x86?
@Bob sure! anything can emulate anything :) it's called Bochs/qemu/...
but performance
16:14
@allquixotic even thought papa is a papa, he can't be papa :(
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@allquixotic I imagine an emulator baked into the CPU/microcode would be a lot more performant than software emulators.
Well, if done properly. The emulation in the first Itaniums sucked.
I actually wasn't aware that Itanium did x86 emulation at all
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> Itanium processors can also run the mainframe environment GCOS from Groupe Bull and several x86 operating systems via Instruction Set Simulators.
o.O
Apparently hardware emulation was much worse...
> Itanium processors released prior to 2006 had hardware support for the IA-32 architecture to permit support for legacy server applications, but performance for IA-32 code was much worse than for native code and also worse than the performance of contemporaneous x86 processors. In 2005, Intel developed the IA-32 Execution Layer (IA-32 EL), a software emulator that provides better performance. With Montecito, Intel therefore eliminated hardware support for IA-32 code.
@Bob that's odd, maybe a difficult mismatch between the x86 instruction set and the Itanium's? because Intel CPUs are basically an instruction set simulator already, being that modern x86_64 ISAs are just baked-in software that compiles down to RISC instructions lol
what is the policy about cross posting on SU?
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16:33
@allquixotic Pretty much, which is why I made the assumption that it would do better (already being done and all) :P
Though that was pre-2005. I imagine if they tackled the same problem now, they'd manage to bring out something at least acceptable.
wow. awesome
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A: Fastest Gun in the West Problem

BlueRajaThis problem was solved 80 years ago. (See here for XKCD-author Randall's explanation). Of course, this answer is late, so it will never get upvoted :) [Edit] Here is some code: ///<summary> ///Returns a rating for the given post. Larger is better. ///Based on the equation found at http://w...

I don't remember seeing that answer last time, for some reason.
Also, kinda sad that it wasn't implemented.
@bob's prime minister has gone bonkers ! independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/…
@allquixotic Won't use this cache because programs are not optimized to use it?
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16:49
@Gowtham He always was.
@Bob Why did he get reelected then ?
@Boris_yo umm, the use of processor cache is already implemented by the hardware
native code that attempts to minimize cache line thrashing will do well no matter how much or little cache there is
@Gowtham He always rejected climate change as bogus.
having more cache doesn't prevent programs from using it-- in fact, it'll get used, and you'll have fewer RAM accesses
main reason we don't have hundreds of megs of L3 cache (or gigs) is that it's expensive to build it into the CPU like that, and it takes up die space
@allquixotic "more L2/L3 cache than you could ever want or use, and you never will use that cache, because no programs run on it"
Hardware runs on cache but not programs?
16:52
@Boris_yo meaning that most software you can purchase or download, except for highly portable open source software, won't run on an Itanium system
it was a joke...
@allquixotic So it's compatibility thing...
@Boris_yo Yes
But material cache is made of is expensive per se?
@Boris_yo the material itself isn't more expensive than other transistors, but cache is designed in such a way that producing large quantities of it would take up lots of space and be expensive
consider the following: a 64 GB USB thumb drive, a mSATA SSD, a RAM stick, and L3 CPU cache are all roughly within the same order of magnitude in terms of volume (size), except that: the thumb drive is the slowest of the bunch but also the least expensive and has the most capacity; the mSATA SSD is faster than the thumb drive, expensive, and has okay capacity (more than RAM but less than thumb drive); the RAM has very good speed but limited capacity (a few GBs); and the cache is
...incredibly fast but only a few megabytes of it are there
so to actually fabricate 2 GB of L3 cache at the same speed/throughput/latency as existing L3 cache, you'd need an enormous CPU die with very high power requirements costing several thousand dollars
whereas a 2GB stick of RAM costs about $30 to make
and a 2GB thumb drive costs about $2 to make
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@Gowtham What? This is a different PM.
16:58
for the same cost as fabricating 2 GB of L3 cache, you could probably get about 4 to 8 TB of usable storage capacity from thumb drive quality NAND
Ah, ok
or like 128GB of RAM
or like 1 TB of SSD
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@allquixotic At times, I swear I can hear a constant wind in this room.
@Bob it's me BSing
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@allquixotic I was thinking more along the line of constant whooshing of jokes flying over heads
17:00
oh ;p
my numbers are probably off a good bit, but the concept holds true
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@allquixotic You also would have a slower CPU.
We're pushing speed-of-light as it is
A bigger die? Timing issues, for one.
you can make transistor based, solid-state storage devices that are either fast, capacious, or cheap.... and you can never grab more than two of those in a single device... where "cheap" is a simplification of "expensive to make and/or requiring large size and/or requiring large amounts of power to operate"
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"cheap, good or fast. pick two"
not really for this situation, but it kinda fits
thumb drives are capacious and cheap, but not fast... RAM is fast and cheap, but not capacious... CPU cache is fast and (for its size) capacious, but not cheap... SSDs are fast and capacious (for their size), but not cheap... etc
17:03
@allquixotic That's because it is a big chip? How does cache look like?
@Boris_yo it looks like any other computer chip, but it's small, and only a fraction of the internals of the CPU
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@Boris_yo You can't see it with the naked eye.
Well, you can't distinguish it at any rate.
it's hidden behind the exterior casing of the CPU that protects the internals from the environment
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Look at a networking IC on an ethernet card, and look at a RAM module on a stick of DDR3.
You can't really tell a difference (other than shape/size), can you?
they're circuits hidden behind some kind of protective cover/plate on top :P
that's all you can really tell
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17:06
at a level where you can actually identify it, it's a massively complex beast
and the plate on "hot" chips (GPU and CPU chips especially; RAM, not so much) also serves as a good conductor of heat, for the heatsink to sit on
I'm still really impressed at how high the performance level is in smartphones without needing active cooling of some form or enormous heatsinks that dwarf the size of the phone itself
Oli's heatsink on his CPU is bigger than my hand even with all my fingers outstretched, and my phone's total compute capacity is actually a very significant fraction of that desktop CPU's, and it has nothing except perhaps a tiny little heatsink, but it'd have to be thin as hell because my phone is thin and it also has a battery and other stuff in it
no doubt they can't run the CPU at a very high clock rate without endangering the battery with the amount of heat output (yeah, putting a hot chip right next to a chemical battery that reacts violently with a certain amount of heat isn't a great idea) but they still get good performance out of it
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@allquixotic Depends on the workload.
Your typical ultrabook on ULV chips can survive on passive cooling.
@Bob And that's what makes cache so expensive to make? It's complexity and small size? @allquixotic
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Of course, certain activities will e more intensive.
My phone gets noticeably warmer when watching videos, for example.
@Bob it also seems to depend a lot on the architecture of the CPU, which is not something I expected until they show off the Surface RT's ARM needing only passive cooling, while the Intel Ivy bridge in the Surface Pro needs a fan :p
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17:11
@allquixotic Nah, different clocks too. And the IVB is probably at least an order of magnitude more powerful than the ARM.
@Bob still, production model "mass consumption" smartphones from Samsung, Motorola, etc. are designed so that they won't make the battery explode at least even if the CPU and GPU are pegged to all hell, otherwise they'd be liable for lawsuits etc, and you can't have a device that's a glass cannon that dies when you actually use it
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@allquixotic I've had my phone exceed dangerous (for the battery) temps.
so, while yes a heavy workload makes the phone get hot, it can only get hot up to a certain point, and they've probably clocked the chips so that it doesn't reach that point, or in case it does (thanks to a hot environment outside or something) it will throttle down
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@allquixotic Yea, but the same could be said for x86 processors.
An ULV CPU will either switch on active cooling or downclock (depending on cooling policy) when they get too hot.
Actually, I think all current x86 CPUs/systems will do that now, not just ULV ones.
@Bob except that there is a much more effective (in my perception) heat removal capability on even average laptop or desktop-scale Intel CPUs than on smartphones, yet smartphones actually look rather okay in benchmarks against those much larger parts... are they an order of magnitude slower? sure... but they don't have a fan and an enormous heatsink either
what impresses me isn't their raw performance, because my 3770K is the very embodiment of raw performance (pretty much; though there are plenty of CPUs out there now that are faster) but their heat output vs. performance ratio
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17:15
@allquixotic Most laptops don't have an enormous heatsink either (and ULVs even less -some are so thin I don't think a heatsink would fit), and on a passive cooling policy you end up with the fan disabled too.
of course, the ULVs are also designed to be more powerful
at the low power end, you have Atoms
when I set my Surface Pro's ULV to passive cooling, performance is pretty unacceptable, though... if I try to use it for anything other than reading a webpage or PDF, either the software slows down or the fan comes on, or I have to do some kind of external cooling (which I've never tried, but putting it on a cold surface would help)
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they actually compete reasonably effectively with ARMs now
Have you guys seen this?
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Q: Computer completely black after rm -rf

actimelI have a bit of a problem. I bought an older Lenovo t420s and fiddled with Linux for few days. But the days I had enough of time to play with it are definitely over so I decided to Install Windows back. With this in mind, I said to myself: "so I can try rm -rf at least with no feeling of guilty"....

Is that a weird coincidence or what?
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o.O
Probably.
@terdon lol, or maybe the rm -rf deleted his windows partition too if he had it mounted
17:18
how would that stop him from POSTing?
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First thing to try is always to reseat the RAM.
it could've walked through /mnt/ntfs (or whatever his Windows was mounted on) and tore out absolutely everything
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@allquixotic won't even POST
And he gets a memoryspecific beep code
@terdon oh. dunno. didn't realize it doesn't POST.
17:19
@Bob yeah, that's what I suggested
@allquixotic Yes impressive. What kind of cooling heatsink is? Active or passive? Active, right?
i've heard of weird things like, in Star Trek Online, back in 2011 when it launched and it was super inefficient and ran your GPU as hard as it could, someone was playing on max. detail with a poorly cooled Alienware laptop, and his EXACT (honest to god) problem report was, "the Klingon ship fired a photon torpedo at me, blew up my ship, and as soon as that happened my computer blue screened, and I haven't been able to get it to POST ever since!"
Is there no English MUI pack for Windows XP Professional?
@Boris_yo a heatsink is passive... active means usually a fan
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simple way of putting it - active cooling uses power to cool
e.g. running a fan or driving a water pump
passive could be a heatsink exposed to air, or liquid cooling by convection (remember those mineral oil tanks?)
@allquixotic wouldn't be that crazy :P
explosion particle effects can get pretty intense
17:23
@allquixotic They probably state in manual that they do not hold themselves liable if end user desides to overclock device...
@Bob besides, Alienware laptops with Nvidia GPUs are infamous for melting, etc. under heavy load
@allquixotic Then how come in Windows 7 cooling policy, fan can have active and passive cooling?
just kind of funny about the timing though
from the user's point of view, the Klingons destroyed their RL computer
@Boris_yo if you set it to passive cooling, it'll only use the heatsink, and if the system gets too hot, the CPU will slow down
@allquixotic Consequences of developers lazy to optimize video game?
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@allquixotic Intel is planning to release Atoms running at 2.7 GHz, with a 14nm process o.O
If nothing else, they beat competitors by manufacturing process :P
17:25
if you set it to active cooling, it'll still use the heatsink (as always), but if the system gets too hot, the fan turns on
and if the system keeps getting hotter the fan runs faster
until the fan is at max. speed, then if it keeps getting hotter, the CPU will slow down
@Bob yeah they definitely do at that
@allquixotic I thought otherwise. Active is when cooler spins all the time regardless of CPU temp and passive is when cooler spins selectively depending on CPU temp.
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Seriously, though... 14nm?
That's insane
@Bob if Intel has their way (and it's far from certain that they will), we'll have commodity 10nm chips before the decade's out.
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@allquixotic Far from certain?
At what point does physics become a serious limitation, anyway?
@Boris_yo That's more "fan always on" kind of thing
@Bob the laws of physics seem to be pushing more and more against the attempts for fabrication advances as time goes on -- in other words, the Moore's Law increases in compute capability that are due to process shrinks are decreasing in velocity
meaning, I think we'll eventually see 10nm ASICs in typical office PCs, but it may not be by 2020 like Intel wants
too many problems with thermal profile, voltage leakage, etc
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17:28
@allquixotic They're planning for 7nm by 2020
@Bob I think that's extremely ambitious
(in a good way, but also a "you might not be able to do that, guys" way)
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I'm amazed we even reached 14nm this quickly
the event that really made me realize just how incredible our compute miniaturization is for all aspects of society...
in the mid-2000s as an intern at some big company I went on a tour of NASA Goddard Spaceflight Facility
they were showing us a command center that's now relegated to backup use
and as an aside, they showed us this enormous room, about 3/4 the size of a typical Walmart interior, with hundreds of washing machine sized units installed into the floor
the tour guide turned on the lights and let us look at them but not get close
they told us that these are old hard drives from the 60s and their storage capacity, TOTAL, all of them together...
was 400 Megabytes
at the time, 1 GB USB thumb drives were the state of the art; the tour guide had one as a prop and said "now we can store more than 2,000 times that amount of data on one of these"
and today I look at a 1 GB thumb drive the same way that I looked at those "hard" drives in ~2004
just wow
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2004? I had a 128 MB flash drive at the time, I think
@Bob I don't remember the exact year, it may have been 2006
I was with that company for a number of years
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17:32
now I have three 16 GB ones, one USB 3.0, within a metre of me
and five 8 GB ones
I have a year old 64 GB one at home, which is amazing.. it's the same size as the 1 GB ones but it holds so much more data
hell, I have a 64 GB microSD card
looks like 128 GB full-size SD cards are out now
microSD won't be far behind
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@allquixotic too bad that breaks compat with SDHC
@Bob IIRC, the electrical parameters of SDHC and SDXC are the same, so you should be able to do firmware/software updates to get to SDXC compatibility... if the manufacturer provides it
but everything I own and actively use these days is SDXC compatible anyway
@Bob So in Windows 7 it's not about slowing down CPU and being cooled by heatsink only without cooler? Just fan on or off?
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@Boris_yo depends where you're seeing this setting
17:38
@Bob In Power Settings, Plan, Customize errh...
The so called Windows XP Pro MUI "support":

"MUI is a feature that is available only on the Professional edition of Windows XP."

"Multilingual User Interface Resource Files are only sold as a bundle with the English version of Windows to make absolutely sure customers have the English version of the OS when installing MUI."

"You can upgrade to MUI from the English versions of the following platforms. Upgrades can only be performed from the English versions of these systems. In order to install MUI on a non-English system, it will be necessary to do a clean install."
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Q: What does the the "System cooling policy" under "Processor power managment" on Windows 7 do?

maguidhirOn Windows-7 you have the ability set the System cooling policy to passive. What does this actually do?

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Q: Changing the Windows XP interface from French to English

RamjiMy friend bought a laptop in Paris. The current language (in Windows XP) is set to French - I want everything to show up in English. I am now only able to show or change the regional settings, which just controls changing the keyboard from French to English. I need to change the rest of the inte...

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@Sammy Why the hell are you still using XP?
It's over a decade old
It will be out of extended support in half a year
@Sammy And I thought you can somehow download language packs...
17:42
@Boris_yo Not that I know of, Microsoft wants you to pay for MUI packs, both for Windows and Office.
@Boris_yo There are LIP packs (language interface pack) that are free. These are intended for emerging markets, and minority languages only.
@Bob It beats me... =/
@Bob Slowing down CPU saves a lot of laptop battery power? A lot? I doubt about "a lot".
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@Boris_yo You will save a lot, yes.
But with Vista I was able to convert non-English OS to English by installing the English MUI for Vista. No need to have English OS as base.
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You won't be running the fan, and the CPU will be downclocked for cooling.
The CPU is the biggest power draw.
@Sammy No, they just change less.
Full language packs are more complete
AWESOME
@Bob And rely on heatsink cooling instead of fan?
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17:47
Finally, the Lumia GDR2 update is available on my phone :D
@Boris_yo The heatsink is part of the hardware. It's always there.
The passive cooling policy basically means that when it gets hotter it'll reduce the CPU's heat output by slowing it down.
The active policy means that when it gets hotter it'll speed up the fan to remove more heat from the CPU/heatsink
In both cases, the heatsink is there.
@Bob Passive downclocks the processor before fan is used again. So fan is still involved but less than in active.
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@Boris_yo that probably just means it'll wait till your processor gets ridiculously slow before using the fan
@Bob So what you're saying is just that fully localized versions of Windows are more complete than any MUI packs?
Passive means it won't do anything from fan's side (idle) and active means it will make fan cooling (working).
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the fan will be started rather than hitting the thermal shutdown
@Sammy should be, yes
but then there's also two types of MUI packs
the interface ones just change some text, e.g. menu text
localised versions tend to change a lot of the underlying stuff as well
17:51
@Bob I suppose that's true. But it's better than nothing, or having to hunt down English CD/DVD media.
@Bob There's type that adds more unicode languages?
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@Boris_yo it means it'll use one way as much as possible
once it's reached the max possible cooldown from one method and it's still too hot (!!!), it'll start using the other
if neither can cool it down enough, it'll keep getting hotter till it reaches the hardware thermal shutdown
@Boris_yo what/
@Bob Adds support to read non-unicode characters of other languages. You select which you want to be able to read on your system.
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@Boris_yo You asked about the Lumia 520's camera before.
> The Lumia Amber update improves the camera capabilities across the Nokia Lumia Windows Phone 8 range with better low-light photos, improved auto focus, enhanced noise filter and more. You will get even better shots.
Unicode is local and non-unicode is international?
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17:55
@Boris_yo You can always read whatever you want.
The language packs only affect the system language.
e.g. system text (error messages, etc.)
e.g. "My Computer" would be translated
@Bob And interface text?
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@Boris_yo Unicode includes a codepoint for every character in every language in existence.
Non-unicode uses region-specific codepages.
@Bob Nice update. Such camera update seems to be only issued on Nokia Lumia due to their camera's main selling point.
@Bob When I wanted support of Hebrew and Russian, I checkmarked Non-Unicode languages.
Frog or human? ^^^
18:09
@Boris_yo why everybody wants to separate them, is the darn Frog Prince
@Braiam Frog that shapeshifts into Prince. That's why.
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...
the Lumia Amber lock screen is just slightly reminiscent of iOS4 -_-
goddamn water droplets
18:51
@Bob Did you get to use camera now and compare between previous to current shots?
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@Boris_yo maybe later
19:16
Better said as "I told you this [insert latest warmongering rhetoric] thing was the perfect distraction...
@terdon You think it can be possible to create dynamic meme with renewing output every time there's new warmongering going on? Totally automate it?
Hmmm hate it when somebody tells "Darling" to person they don't know/see first time. How dare they? Tell "Darling" to your family member, to your girl/boy friend but not to someone you don't give a shit about! Hypocrites!
In old times saying so could get your face slapped or into lethal duel.
19:43
I got network discovery working on XP now.
The key here is really using the Network Setup Wizard.
If you don't use the wizard the first time after a clean install of XP all your network discovery, network shares, i.e. document sharing folder, printer sharing, etc. will be off. Everything is just completely blank.
The wizard adjusts every security policy for you in this regard, so you can easily see find your XP machines on your Windows Vista/7/8 machines without having to dig into regedit, gpedit, firewall settings, and what not.
I looked at ways to enable everything manually and it's a lot more complicated.
For example, the so called "discovery" part of things can be enabled in XP by right-clicking on a folder or file and then the Share tab. There you will see options for enabling file sharing, and for making folders private. There will be some prompts and a link to the Network Setup Wizard.
But that alone is not enough to start sharing files, if you are not using the Network Setup Wizard you will have to dig deeper into the system. Otherwise your newly discovered XP machine will have no shares, not even the standard shares like printer and shared documents folder.
So Network Setup Wizard is the way to go.
I just thought I would share this if anyone is interested. And yes, I know XP is a grandpa amongst Windows teenagers like Windows 8. But you gotta respect the elders you know! ;)
If anything, this can be useful for VM setups with XP.
In case you're interested in accessing the standard administrative shares in XP, then you probably want to know that you need to disable simple file sharing.
In some cases, you would additionally also need to right-click the disk partition you want to access, e.g. the C: system disk, and under the Share tab on Properties dialog box explicitly specify c$.
20:02
Cool thanks! Going to install Windows XP over Windows 7 now!
20:20
@Bob I stopped doing IT support / maintenance one year and half ago. You'd be amazed at how much used XP still is. Win 7 was starting to overcome XP in usage, but the number of XP install wasn't small.
20:36
@ThatBrazilianGuy Were you giving technical support to clients by phone?
20:46
When video is uploaded to YouTube, it gives you options to play it in lower definition formats. Does that mean that YouTube takes uploaded video and converts it to appropriate format in every low resolution available?
@Boris_yo yes, they transcode to a bunch of different formats after you upload a video
@tapped-out I thought they just play same video but at reduced dataflow.
they have to transcode it to get to that lower data rate
21:05
This does not answer the question. — tapped-out 1 min ago
and the most obvious comment of the day award goes to...
21:17
@tapped-out I am waiting...
22:10
@Boris_yo I only ever did phone IT support once in my life, for 3 months, in 2007, when I was really desperat for money. More accurately, outsorced phonecall center for ISP. It was hell. Clients were dumb, coworkers were dumb, bosses were dumb, schedule was insane and constantly changing... Would have to type pages just to start describing hell. I could write a bad movie based on it.
@ThatBrazilianGuy Tell me about emotional level of this hell. Or people only were dumb?
Well, the worst part was I had a close relative with a really serious terminal disease.
That was unrelated to the job, obviously; but my emotional state wasn't really positive to say the least
Were people dumb, angry and arrogant and impudent?
hey guys
Can I charge a MacBook that is 2007 or 2006 version with a charger for iPad?
or iPhone 5
22:28
@EinsteinsGrandson no, iPad chargers output the wrong voltage and cannot possibly supply enough current to power a MacBook
hm
it's ipad 2 i think
where can i get the cheapest MacBook charger .... MagSafe?
Or how much is it gonna cost?
23:07
is it just one MagSafe for all the MacBooks?
or there many of them?
45W Cord Supply Magsafe Power Adapter Charger f Mac Macbook 11.6"13" A1244 A1374
but my MacBook is A1181
there's MagSafe and MagSafe 2 (only with newer MacBook Airs/Retina MacBook Pros)
23:19
Holy cow I did it, i reached 8.0 in the windows 7 experience index, The screen flashed once, and GAME OVER shows up, and the credits started to rollup. when i stopped the credits , It says Windows8 "do you want to play again?"
23:57
Compared to Chrome, Firefox laggs for me when playing YouTube videos. This can be noticed with scrolling lagging.

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