Root Access

Bob

00:40

*hands you an apple* pretend that's a hash. *hands you written directions to an apple in the fridge* that's a hash reference. — quack quixote Nov 30 '09 at 2:37

Journeyman Geek

lol

tapped-out

01:21

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Q: Proxy Server that runs on headers

Example: Proxy Server retrieves connection from client GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: Website.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; LNX x86; rv:21.0) Gecko/20090101 Firefox/20.0 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-gb,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, d...

proxy

what...?

somequixotic

@tapped-out you know, the sad thing is, I could actually do that

tapped-out

i don't know what it's even asking for

somequixotic

i meant the xkcd

tapped-out

ah

silly me, not hovering over and getting the msg replied to :P

Bob

01:42

@somequixotic tar xvf somefile.tar ? :P

I often do x and c in the same command when in a rush...

z was gzip and j was bzip2... I think?

though they shouldn't be necessary for extraction

tapped-out

v is verbose, and f is...?

That Brazilian Guy

@tapped-out some cryptic letter I put there because it's how the guys told me to do. At least that's what I think it means.

tapped-out

oh, FILE

That Brazilian Guy

`-f, --file=ARCHIVE
use archive file or device ARCHIVE`

Bob

Ya. It tells it to extract from (or compress to) the filename following f

I think.

Otherwise, it presumably just uses stdin and stdout

That Brazilian Guy

01:50

I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate this countrie's telecom with all the very essence of my immortal soul. May their descendants be cursed and their lands sprinkled with salt.

Bob

o.o

That Brazilian Guy

Very light, I know. Should have added "skinned alive" somewhere.

somequixotic

02:01

wow, this guy updated the question and comment and i still have no idea what he is trying to do

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Q: HTTP Server that runs on headers

Example: HTTP Server retrieves connection from client GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: Scc.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; LNX x86; rv:21.0) Gecko/20090101 Firefox/20.0 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-gb,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflat...

proxy

how do they make people that inept at expressing their thoughts...

Bob

@somequixotic from what i can gather, this guy has a fundamental misunderstanding of how HTTP works

> So its like a proxy server which runs on headers

dafuq does that even mean

somequixotic

lol

Bob

A HTTP proxy that ignores HTTP headers... well... that's not an HTTP proxy now, is it?

But he doesn't mention ignoring, accepting or passing on headers. Just 'running on' headers.

As far as I know, "headers" isn't a power source.

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Or any hardware, or OS, or interpreter. Or anything else you could 'run on'.

Unless...

@somequixotic My current guess is he wants a proxy server that will perform a DNS lookup (against a specific DNS server) on the specified host and forward the request as a normal proxy server.

Since he mentioned some hack involving the hosts file (causing normal lookups to return a local address).

But... the alternatives you mentioned (Fiddler, etc.) do the same in a much cleaner way...

Oliver Salzburg

Any of you guys have experience with sending SMS over a GSM modem? Like a proper setup, not the shit suggestions for email-to-sms that you find on SO :P

I already looked up all kinds of stuff online for a proper setup that might work, so no need to google for me ;P But if anyone can provide some first-hand experience, that'd be great

Bob

02:18

@OliverSalzburg ozekisms.com/index.php?owpn=543

looks like it might be specific to the modem you are using

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Saw that

Saw that whole site basically ;D

Bob

I do have a 3g modem lying around. Never used it, though.

forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2068985

Oliver Salzburg

Does 3G allow for SMS? I assumed it's a GSM thing

Bob

Which links to winsms.com... looks promising

Oliver Salzburg

We were primarily looking at Sierra Wireless Fastrack XTEND FXT009

Oh wait, that's only an image :P

Bob

02:22

Short Message Service

Short Message Service (SMS) is a text messaging service component of phone, web, or mobile communication systems, using standardized communications protocols that allow the exchange of short text messages between fixed line or mobile phone devices. SMS is the most widely used data application in the world, with 3.5 billion active users, or 78% of all mobile phone subscribers. The term "SMS" is used for all types of short text messaging and the user activity itself in many parts of the world. SMS is also employed in direct marketing, known as SMS marketing. SMS as used on modern hand...

> SMS was originally designed as part of GSM, but is now available on a wide range of networks, including 3G networks.

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Oh. Awesome

Bob

IIRC it piggybacks on some update packet with GSM, but does something else with 3G.

Oliver Salzburg

Initially, I was hoping for a simple IP-to-SMS hardware thing actually

Like, stick a SIM card in and send it some magic packets and that's it

But all I could find was way too high level

So now I'm interested in dealing with the modem itself

Bob

=> winsms.com

> A powerful bi-directional HTTP/XML interface

Oliver Salzburg

Knowing that it doesn't have to be GSM is already quite helpful

Bob

02:25

> A simple URL based message submission mechanism

> Command Line Interface (CLI)

looks like you could set up a small server to handle it, if you wanted

@OliverSalzburg might want to double-check the specs of any modem you get

some are strictly data-only

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob From what I understand that's a software that can just use a bunch of possible modems

Bob

that applies to the plan/SIM too, actually

@OliverSalzburg ya

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob That was my concern

Bob

most modems come with their own software, that can often send SMSes

probably not as scriptable, though

> SMS Gateway will work with any device that supports Mobile Originate & Terminate SMS via a serial connection as per the ETSI 07.05 “Block” or “PDU” mode protocol, as per our Hardware page.

Interesting. So, there is a (somewhat) standard protocol.

Oliver Salzburg

I've heard a lot of mention of AT commands. Like you basically have serial, text-based communication with the modem and can control it through said AT commands

Haven't heard of those before today though

Bob

02:28

o.o

@OliverSalzburg winsms.com/?page_id=19#unlisted_hardware

they mention using PuTTY to test :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yeah

Bob

so, ya, serial communication

As for the mobile originate/terminate, apparently that's part of the GSM SMS specifications

Oliver Salzburg

That seems to be a somewhat standardized communication protocol with modems from what I understand

Bob

not sure how that translates to 3G

Oliver Salzburg

This was kinda interesting: gonzalo123.com/2011/03/21/…

He lists a couple of commands at the end

Bob

02:30

there's a decent amount of technical info on that winsms faq, too

but no low-level communication stuff

and my laptop battery is about to die

I'll be back in 30 mins if that happens

Oliver Salzburg

I'll have to read it later

I have no chair right now, cat is blocking it

Bob

lol

ooh interesting

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Huawei_E1550_3G_modem#Sending_SMS

and there's some AT commands on that page too

@OliverSalzburg wammu.eu/gammu

wammu.eu/libgammu

Oliver Salzburg

kannel.org seemed popular as well

There were even some guys putting something together on a RaspPi with it

Biggest problem was finding a fitting modem, at least that's what I felt like

Bob

> Generally any phone capable of AT commands or IrMC should be supported. Also any Nokia phone using Nokia
OS should work. For Symbian please check separate topic. You can check other user experiences in
Gammu Phones
Database
.

> Forget about using standard phones, they tend not to be reliable for long time connection to PC. Best option are
GSM (GPRS, UMTS) terminals/modems. The best option seem to be Siemens modems (eg. ES75/MC35i/MC55i).
Slightly cheaper, while still good are modems made by Huawei (eg. E160/E220/E1750/...). You can check other user
experiences in
Gammu Phones Database

at least some of the listed Huawei ones are definitely 3G modems

Actually, they appear to be both...

> HSDPA/UMTS (850/1900/2100MHz) GSM/GPRS/EDGE(850/900/1800/1900MHz)

that's the E160

Oliver Salzburg

Gonna check that out in the morning

Which is not far away sadly

Bob

02:38

:S

anyway, wammu.eu/phones

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I'll put it in a tab for tomorrow ;D

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Would you mind expanding on this answer a little? :P (there's so little information it sounds like you're just confirming something to yourself - it is your own question, but it feels like it's missing a chunk to me :)

Looks like we might have a duplicate: superuser.com/q/640194/117590

somequixotic

@Bob Ivy Ridge? /facepalm

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Bob

xD

@somequixotic Blame @JourneymanGeek! :P

Hm. Is there any way to invite him into chat?

somequixotic

I thought he was always here

Bob

02:49

@somequixotic No, the new guy.

NismoTuned

6 1

graphics-card igp nvidia-geforce optimus power-management

somequixotic

nope

less than 20 rep

Bob

:\

somequixotic

for the record, I never got Virtu MVP to work particularly well, and furthermore there are two distinct hardware versions so if you're using the older hardware you're pretty much left out in the cold

Bob

@somequixotic huh. you want to add that to the comments?

I can't use it at all D:

somequixotic

also, they only support the latest (or sometimes the previous) WHQL release of the graphics drivers that were available when they were developing that particular release of the driver package for Virtu

so if a new WHQL driver comes out, you can't upgrade or you lose your Virtu -- and that goes for both the Intel driver and the discrete GPU

Bob

02:50

ouch...

somequixotic

i think as of now they still only support Catalyst 13.1

last i checked anyway

Bob

(not that laptop switchable is necessarily better... I'm quite sure my laptop would self destruct if I tried to update CCC)

somequixotic

yeah apparently their tech requires an exact pairing up of versions between the intel and amd/nvidia drivers

which is really stupid when they only appear to do quarterly driver updates at best

their list of games is pathetic, too

lucidlogix.com/download/…

Bob

@somequixotic That's just the "Hyperformance" crap. Not directly related to the GPU virtualisation?

somequixotic

@Bob well, if by "crap", you mean "the thing that makes it not suck"...

Hyperformance IIRC is something like frame syncing

oh and it doesn't support OpenGL. at all. :D

Journeyman Geek

03:32

@Bob: oh that

Bob

The goatse operator! — LaceCard Jul 22 at 18:25

Sigh. We really need a better name for that. — friedo Jul 22 at 18:56

Journeyman Geek

its got nothing with lucid logix ;p

Bob

@somequixotic Isn't that "Virtu Vsync"?

@JourneymanGeek Hm?

Journeyman Geek

and it quite literally is specific to your system. I THINK I can add a screenshot off my specific bios

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A: How do I run the integrated video adaptor alongside the GPU on a Ivy Ridge system?

Apparently the iGPU Multi-Monitor setting under advanced/system agent configuration/graphics configuration needs to be turned on. This is labelled for being for virtu but is necessary for the integrated GPU to be detectable by windows, even if you arn't running virtu. Obviously the location of t...

Bob

Your question was about running the IGP alongside the dedi?

Journeyman Geek

03:33

you turn on the iGPU setting but don't need to install virtu ;p

yes!

thats pretty much it

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's exactly what the other question was about.

Though this iGPU thing is interesting.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: basically its mislabelled ;p

Bob

Labelled as 'being for Virtu'... perhaps is is part of Virtu?

Journeyman Geek

its basically "let both the integrated graphics and discrete graphics be usable"

nope

Bob

> For Virtu to work, you must enable the "iGPU Multi-Monitor" setting in the P8Z68's UEFI BIOS, even if you're going to use only one monitor.

Journeyman Geek

03:48

@Bob: that basically enables the integrated GPU with the onboard ;p

since thats what lucid does really

lol

confusing, yes?

expanded a bit

@Bob: Basically, the intel GPU does some things other than video output like transcoding better/faster than intel. Quick Sync will only work if you have a monitor plugged in - even if the monitor isn't getting an output. I wanted to do this to plug in a projector to my desktop tho, so I wanted to use both GPUs seperately

completely not a dupe, and a pretty interesting question

John Cavil

@nicholas_ya Hey there! You're pretty special, aren't you? :)

somequixotic

04:20

Wow.

►

Journeyman Geek

05:24

allthingsd.com/20130902/…

hm superuser.com/a/640224/10165 looks like a plausible answer but it links to a dead link. >_>

Bob

07:25

Potential new Gravatar:

@JourneymanGeek Well. Fuck.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: Yeah

Bob

Do. Not. Want.

Seriously, I liked Symbian.

WP is a glittery piece of crap more locked down than iOS.

I can see how it might be good for kids, but for anyone who likes to hack into things...

Journeyman Geek

lol

yeah

and nokia dosen't add anything to MS, in my opinion

with both, hardware was never the issue

Bob

Oh, I love Nokia's hardware.

Just wish the OS was actually usable.

One thing that can be said is it does work as a phone.

Not so much as a *smart*phone.

Rather ironic that their feature and low-end smartphones (Asha) can do more...

Journeyman Geek

lol

kinda hoping jolla make it

even if my next phone is likely to be a nexus or motorola

Bob

07:30

MeeGo?

That'd be nice.

Journeyman Geek

08:02

heh superuser.com/a/640263/10165 these guys are pissing me off

John Cavil

08:24

@user250862 Hey there! You're pretty special, aren't you? :)

Journeyman Geek

09:24

hm, I need something portable, and not dodgy that should let me open a PST without having outlook installed.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that's a hard one

Journeyman Geek

yeah

Bob

does it have to be PST?

Journeyman Geek

I mean, I could, in theory open up the file with outlook

Bob

forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2160618

Journeyman Geek

09:30

(my dad has a system that badly needs to be cleared out, has his emails in a 4gb pst. I want to set it up such that he can access them at any time)

Bob

the sites hosting those programs are quite dodgy

Journeyman Geek

ya ;p

thats my issue here

if it was anything else, mitec has a nice little viewer app that works

Bob

> fondleslabs

o.o

that's... an interesting name

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A: Hypothetically, can I swap processors between a smartphone & a desktop?

Yes, speeds for smartphone and desktop processors (as well as any other processors) are comparable in such a way, that 1 Hz equals 1 computational operation per second. In this way - assuming both CPUs have the same or similar instruction set and bus width - a 1.5 GHz quad-core processor can comp...

where do we get answers like this?

-_-

Huh. Did that other question about ARM/x86 efficiency get deleted, @JourneymanGeek?

Journeyman Geek

maybe

Bob

it appears to have disappeared

Journeyman Geek

09:38

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A: Is it possible for an x86 processor to match an ARM processor in terms of performance per watt?

Arm processors have been getting increasingly complex - so its an apple to orange comparison - arm has only had a 64 bit varient for about 2 years, and even within the same generation power use varies. Its probably fairer to consider contemporary ARM processors and their atom counterparts as anan...

this one?

Bob

yea o.O

wonder why I couldn't find it

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: answered that one too ;p

got to use grumpy cat ;p

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Q: The maximum hard drive capacity for Intel 80286 based PC

I got myself an Intel 80286 based PC. It has 40Mb hard drive installed. What is the maximum hard drive capacity that this PC can handle?

hard-drive old-hardware

wait, what?

Bob

lol

@JourneymanGeek You might wanna change "Finally, processor speed these days has less and less relevance to actual performance." to "processor clock"

or clock speed, or clock rate

cause an unqualified 'speed' could mean any number of things, and is a synonym to performance :P

..I'm being pedantic again, aren't I?

also, the image is broken

oh wait, it just wasn't loading

o.o

Journeyman Geek

09:54

fixed

lol

Bob

wat

I'd like to see a grep or gcc benchmark comparison — artistoex 10 mins ago

Journeyman Geek

it was that or a "one does not simply walk into mordor" macro

honestly, at that point, clock speed was an afterthought

Bob

lol

William Hilsum

10:09

HAve a guy been trying to contact me non stop for a while now on skype :/ finally online at the same time... Anyone know anything about this/anything else I should say!?

Bob

o.o

how.. how did he end up in a skype conversation with you?

William Hilsum

he added me

Bob

yea, but how did he get your skype name?

I've never used skype before, so...

@WilliamHilsum link him here? superuser.com/help/question-bans

William Hilsum

thanks

Journeyman Geek

@WilliamHilsum: yeah, I remember him, and yeah, I think he got blocked for too many bad questions

William Hilsum

10:12

I just linked him there

Journeyman Geek

I really wish those would warn people first

season of love and all

Bob

@JourneymanGeek To the MSO!

Journeyman Geek

lol

I wouldn't be suprised if it was suggested already

Sathya

how nice. superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/143692

Journeyman Geek

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A: Question Ban Meter - Feature Request

I have had the bad experience of being banned on Meta. I, too, didn't know that my actions could lead to limitations; I was unaware of the fact that deleting questions, or getting too many negative votes, or some kind of combination of those could lead to a ban. I found the reasons for my ban a...

heh

@Sathya: terribly mature, that

Bob

10:33

weird that these two were asked in quick succession

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Q: How to record sound directly from output?

I'm not sure if I'm asking the question right, but I want to record sound, by connecting its output to my pc's mic input. Is this possible ? I have a Line 6 POD 2.0 guitar processor, and a big jack to small jack adapter (see the image) , but I don't have any external audio card, so is there a wa...

audio connection microphone audio-recording

0

Q: How can record amplifier output to pc line in?

i am having 160w AHUJA amplifier. output of amplifier line out can directly give input to pc line in(sound card) for record the mic sound..should i use convertor? if it so let me know? can any one help me to overcome this problm?

windows-xp

also, I sense fried audio card in the near future

William Hilsum

10:46

@Sathya LOL, best edit ever!

Bob

@Sathya Are you sure that's not an audit? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: and I don't really trust indian hardware ;p

Sathya

@Bob hehe

Journeyman Geek

heh, I am shocked, they have a manual online.

ahujaradios.com/Literature/SSA-160EM_OM.pdf is it just me or does the manual randomly lapse into chinese?

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek are you sick again? your writing up more of those amasing answers, i just want to make sure your ok :-)

Journeyman Geek

11:00

lol

I'd have you know, I post perfectly good answers when high on flu meds.

Honestly, the manual is totally useless ;p

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek Are you hooking up a system that will actually run Virtu? The reason i ask is to try and find out more about its uses, or its uselessness. One person writes that they screwed up the first version, and it isnt "faster" anyways, a lot of the original hype of it is gone.

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek: virtu is 10-20% slower according to reviews

as I said, I just wanted to use my onboard video out sometimes without needing to remove my nvidia card

Psycogeek

My understanding is it is possible to utalise the "GPU" portion, as the second gpu card , sort of. to do the SLI or CF type thing. From what i am getting it is more like "to lasy to move a cable" software in the present implementation :-)

Journeyman Geek

ok, let me explain what virtu does

Psycogeek

But how that works with 2Monitors would also be interesting to completly understand.

Journeyman Geek

11:08

it adds a layer over the graphics subsystem, basically in one mode, it renders stuff on the discrete GPU, and sends it over software to the integral GPU

so the latter runs all the time, the former runs when needed

HOWEVER, all the bios setting for enabling it does is turn on the integral GPU if there's a discrete GPU present

Bob

@JourneymanGeek slowest download ever

Journeyman Geek

lol

Michael Frank

Huh... convenient. My brother is having an issue with his Intel integrated graphics and his AMD Radeon on his laptop at the moment.

Certain games won't run and you can't seem to specifically tell it to run on the dedicated GPU.

Journeyman Geek

lucidlogix.com/technology-virtual-graphics.html worth a read @Psycogeek

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek This work to move this data , is software based, and would require much movement of data over the bus, and how much CPU would be used ?

Journeyman Geek

11:14

software based, tho it has some hardware requirements

apparently not much cpu load

Bob

restore factory drivers

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek Well the problem with getting the info there, they are full of themselves :-) they think it is the best thing in the world, and tell nothing of the ramifications. While i would still agree that is is Amasing to have done that

Journeyman Geek

also anandtech.com/show/4199/…

@Psycogeek: its pretty good for the 'how' - outside sources for the "should I bother?'

Bob

I have quite enough VPSes already

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

11:16

however, I am sorely tempted

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: heh, I have 2. Might get a third , but it would need to be significantly better than what I have now ;p

Bob

lowendbox.com/blog/…

so many cheapish servers with crazy specs

Journeyman Geek

holyshit

Bob

lowendbox.com/blog/…

500GB disk

o.o

@JourneymanGeek ya

so tempting

lol

Michael Frank

what do you use a VPS for?

Journeyman Geek

11:18

hosting mainly

Bob

@MichaelFrank everything :P

Michael Frank

you use a VPS for everything/

?

Bob

well, a lot of things :P

Journeyman Geek

heh

Bob

wtf

there's a LEGO® Answers

Journeyman Geek

11:22

picked up a 1gb vps ;p

yeah, there has been a while

Bob

@JourneymanGeek which host?

Journeyman Geek

weloveservers

I'll probably throw my ttrss instance on it, amongst other things

Bob

> VPN Servers, adult content and IRC are allowed.

o.o

that's a new one

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek sooooo tempted

the bluevm ones have more space though

Journeyman Geek

11:31

@Bob: yeah, but hard disk space has never been an issue for me

its always ram

Bob

lol

my ram has been... reasonable

hdd space hasn't been an issue yet, but I may need more in future

hm.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

I think I'll drop a few servers next billing period

Journeyman Geek

I could run discourse on this!

Bob

xD

> 1 GB of memory, 3 GB of swap and a single core CPU are the minimums for a steady state, running Discourse forum

not quite :P

I wish it was possible to scale it down (i.e. enforce some hard limits)

not like anyone here's going to be running a high-traffic site on a bargain VPS :P

though, @somequixotic did offer to host discourse on his server

Journeyman Geek

11:36

well, I'm unlikely to have much traffic

just want to mess around with it, really ;p

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek (anandtech lucid) well that just raises 50 more questions. I know what is going to happen to me, i am going to spend 2 weeks switching things back and forth, and testing this and that, and running real things for real results. Then tossing the whole thing out and going back to the way it was :-)

Journeyman Geek

lol

which is why I suggested not bothering

Psycogeek

they did not even bother to update the info at anadtech for 2 years.

Boris_yo

11:52

Hello... It seems problem with display (No Signal) is dynamic...

Until now client experienced "No Signa". Today I come and after turning on PC all is well.

This problem is kind of appearing/disappearing problem.

@Psycogeek Yeah but I spent money and time on commute. I can't leave empty handed.

Journeyman Geek

j,,

@Boris_yo: could be the cable

or some component thats not failing consistantly, maybe a capasitor

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo you could do what other experienced techs would do "if i didnt see it it didnt happen" :-) and " determined there was nothing wrong" these are sure to tick off the customer that paid to have an expert check why something was going wrong.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Yeah but I spent time and money on commuting. I can't leave empty handed.

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo And a good customer, would pay you for showing up, and the time you spent , just because they understand economics

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Maybe I should open case and check if cooler is working fine on video card?

Psycogeek

11:59

What your going to need is something that breaks it while your there. there are a lot of software tools that overclockers use to do just that.

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