PSE RPG Chatroom - 2021-01-11 (page 2 of 3)

Sciborg

04:00

(Lae doesn't actually lose track of reality, i was kidding :p)

Prince North Læraðr

Lae moves to the tower. As he approaches the tower, Lae makes another investigation roll

No fricking way. Another 1?!

msh210

@Sciborg (What's Eryne?)

Prince North Læraðr

smh

Sciborg

Would anyone like to roll to save Lae here? :P

Graylocke

I rolled a 17 + 2 = 19!

bobble

04:00

(how do we do that?)

Prince North Læraðr

(Fitting, since Lae knows nothing about a town, I guess )

Graylocke

(Investigation, right?)

Sciborg

Ink, you take a look at this chapel. It is a very large, imposing building, and is obviously the center of town in a sense. Out front are two marble statues of winged humanoids, raising swords over the entrance; there are some nice snowdrop and lavender plants growing out front.

bobble

(Would he recognize the religion?)

Sciborg

You see some star-shaped symbols in the patterns of the stained glass windows, but you can't remember what religion they represent.

Prince North Læraðr

04:03

"Well, shall we enter?" Without waiting for a response, Lae steps in

Sciborg

When the elf is the one making rash decisions :p

bobble

Astrid hesitates a bit, then slips into the chapel and looks for a corner

Graylocke

(Yike... BTW - It was lucky the guard spoke Elven...)

bobble

@Sciborg (well he wasn't raised by elves)

Graylocke

(Eh - I will learn Draconic later, @Sciborg - I am going to constantly forget otherwise)

Sciborg

04:04

Inside the chapel, it is a large, swooping open space with rows of pews, a large altar draped in blue-and-white fabric, and star patterns everywhere on the fabric and banners. It's darkened and seems closed for the time being, but you can see a humanoid figure moving about in the back room, putting things away.

Prince North Læraðr

Lae approaches the person quietly, except of course, he's stupid, so rolls a stealth roll

bobble

Astrid is torn between wanting to hide and curiosity about another religion

Graylocke

Ink waits awkwardly by the entrance, but politely removes the hood of their cloak because it is a place of worship.

Sciborg

(one moment, i must let the dog out to pee :p)

Prince North Læraðr

11+5=16

Sciborg

04:08

With that roll, you drop down to a stealthy crouch. You don't believe the person has noticed you - they are humming a hymn and arranging candles in the back room shelves.

bobble

Astrid opts for sitting discretely in a pew and watching Lae

Prince North Læraðr

"Greetings!" Lae exclaims, as he approaches the person

msh210

@bobble (by yourself or discreetly?)

bobble

she starts fiddling back-and-forth with her bracelet

Sciborg

The person jumps, and you see it is a tall, white-haired moon elf dressed in purple robes. "Ah!" he exclaims, nearly dropping the candles he was putting away. "You rather startled me."

bobble

04:09

@msh210 (she's smaller than the average human, probably wouldn't come up very far)

Prince North Læraðr

"Oh, apologies." He looks directly at the moon elf. "What religion is this?"

msh210

@Sciborg (What's a moon elf? Or is that something the characters will have to find out in-game?)

Sciborg

"Ah, why, you must be new." The moon elf turns his face to you, and you see he appears to be blind; his eyes are milky white and look past you. "Welcome, children, to the Church of Pelor. Have you heard the word of our God?"

Prince North Læraðr

"Who is Pelor?"

Sciborg

@msh210 (loreee :p)

"Pelor is our Lord and Savior, the god of summer and the keeper of time, the bringer of bountiful harvests." He smiles pleasantly. "I have not heard your voices before. You must be new children in my fold."

msh210

04:11

@Sciborg (meaning the characters will have to find it out in-game?)

Sciborg

@msh210 (they're basically this: forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Moon_elf)

bobble

(Gray, is Ink still staying at the entrance?)

Prince North Læraðr

@Sciborg "Urm, no. We are but passing strangers. However, would you perhaps help us find another, different temple?"

Sciborg

"Oh, of course. I know many of the temples in this region of Velinor. There are many gods and goddesses besides our own, and I am more tolerant of it than most." He gestures expectantly. "Tell me which temple you seek, child."

Prince North Læraðr

"My dwarf friend over there," gesturing towards Astrid, "Seeks to find the temple of Glaevale, of Pan. Perhaps you can help?"

msh210

04:14

@Sciborg (thanks)

Graylocke

Ink watches but doesn't speak... this is both an elf and a cleric, and therefore of some importance. They remain quietly observant near the entrance.

Sciborg

"The Temple of Glaevale, House of Pan..." The elf ponders for a moment. "Ah, I believe I remember word of a temple of Pan out in the eastern woods. Quite an... interesting religion, if I remember."

bobble

fiddling increases in intensity

Prince North Læraðr

"Eastern woods... thank you."

"One last question, if you please."

(What wood do I come from? I'm just going to make one up)

Sciborg

(that's fine :p)

Prince North Læraðr

04:16

"Have you ever heard of a group of wood elves who used to reside in Faerunwind? One that was perhaps... destroyed?"

Graylocke

(Is there a donation box?)

Sciborg

"Faerunwind..." He closes his eyes and seems to think deeply. "I do not recall ever hearing that name. I am sorry, child."

Would you like to roll Investigation to see on that, Ink? :P

Prince North Læraðr

Insight roll

pfft 4+3=7

Sciborg

You can't get a super clear read on him, but it seems like he's being straightforward with you.

Prince North Læraðr

(I thought I was proficient in insight, my bad)

"Thank you." Lae starts towards the door quietly

Graylocke

04:18

(9 + 2 Investigation = 11)

Sciborg

You do notice a prominent donation box mounted by the front doors, with a little plaque reading in both Elvish and Common: "Gifts for Pelor."

msh210

(gtg. Safe travels!)

Sciborg

(good night/morning! <3)

bobble

Astrid decides to get up, goes over to the priest

Um, hello?

Could I trade a candle - one of mine, for yours?

I like collecting different ones, mine all smell the same

Sciborg

The priest looks intrigued. "Why, what an interesting request. I've never had someone ask me that before." He goes into the back room and emerges with a bright white candle, and offers it to you gently. "Here you are."

bobble

04:21

Astrid rummages in her pack and hands a small tan candle back. Thank you, kind priest.

Sciborg

"Pelor protect you in your travels, my child." He does a small elven gesture of farewell.

bobble

Astrid waves tentatively, then turns to go to Ink

Prince North Læraðr

Looks over to Ink whispering, "What are you doing?"

Graylocke

Ink looks up from the donation box, "It occurred to me that this temple must take a lot of upkeep..." and he lets the two silver pieces from earlier drop into the box.

Sciborg

You hear the coins drop in and jingle against some others inside. The box seems to contain only a modest amount of money.

Prince North Læraðr

04:25

confused, Lae does the same, except misappropriates his money and drops two gold piece into the box

bobble

Astrid copies Ink, drops two silvers

Sciborg

The priest bows very deeply, seeing you all put coins in. "You are all too kind, travelers. Pelor thanks you for these generous blessings."

Prince North Læraðr

Fen to Lae, telepathically: "You dropped two gold pieces, idiot"

Lae whispers to Ink, "Is it okay to take my money back out?"

Graylocke

Ink tilts his head and watches the priest carefully wondering if he can see or not... also the phrase "moon elf of a sun god" whisks through his mind on butterfly wings.

Sciborg

You may roll Investigation on that observation if you'd like.

Graylocke

04:28

Dirty 20!

well I rolled an 18

+2 ;p

Prince North Læraðr

I was gonna say, first 20!

Sleight of hand roll to attempt to get gold pieces back 2+3=5. Yikes

Sciborg

Ink, you had noticed earlier that birds perch on this chapel. Now, you notice that one of the stained glass chapel windows is cracked open, perhaps for air circulation, and there is a dove seated on the windowsill. It seems to be looking at you intently. You get the sense this cleric may have a familiar.

bobble

@Sciborg (you = Ink?)

Graylocke

Ink chuckles and nods to himself and then says aloud: "Don't worry, friend Lae... I will cover the difference in coins... the temple could use the extra donation to keep the cold out..."

Prince North Læraðr

Fen to Lae, "That's my dinner, punk"

Sciborg

04:32

The dove cocks its head and peers at Ink very intently.

Prince North Læraðr

(At least I didn't roll a one! I probably would've knocked the box over)

Gtg! See ya!

Gn :P

Sciborg

Ah, good night :D

Prince North Læraðr

Nice stopping point anyways

Sciborg

Good note to end on. Suspicious bird :p

Graylocke

Ink smiles directly at the bird, paws raised.

(Okay :) Night, friend Lae! Sleep well, dream nice :D )

bobble

04:35

('night!)

question for experienced people: was that a "normal" speed to move through the adventure?

Sciborg

Slow introduction stuff, admittedly, but i like setting the scene and having a place to start before we get into Combat Shenanigans.

Graylocke

tbh - online? Pretty much for an intro. Plus we are a somewhat timid and awkward group in a town.

Sciborg

Next session we get to fight stuff, i promise :p

bobble

I'm recopying Astrid to note the changes in equipment and money

Sciborg

hopefully fun so far though?

bobble

04:38

I got a cool candle :D

Sciborg

:D

Graylocke

:D I am glad the priest can see... I was debating whether Ink would need to put money in his hand...

Sciborg

It will be hilarious to have the next session start with the antics of Kith and Johnny the Bard

i am immensely looking forward to those two

Graylocke

Ink is extremely cautious... and getting a priest onside in case they start the pitchforks and torches routine... I thought maybe he would need to feel a furry paw give him money for insurance later. ;p

bobble

So our characters won't know about them, but we can read their adventures nevertheless

Graylocke

04:40

yay :P we are the timid trio :D

Sciborg

Always good to have a cleric on your side ;)

Graylocke

and they are the... well I look forward to seeing what happens ;p

Sciborg

I think I'm going to have it be like a parallel adventure, where you hear about their antics in town and they hear about yours.

Like, they'll probably hear people muttering about the weird trio that came to a nearby town recently

Graylocke

@Sciborg Yes - well... I figure Ink has learned that "All Eyes On Me" is not always a good thing ;p

Sciborg

:p

The Timid Trio would be a hilarious party name, not gonna lie

Graylocke

04:43

@Sciborg Another weird trio! What are the chances >.>;

bobble

Just realized I could've been using Guidance... but I guess no one asked

Lae wouldn't ask, though. Don't want to admit a dwarf could help them

Sciborg

That would be a very Lae thing to say :P

"I don't need Guidance, pffft"

Graylocke

@bobble: In case you missed it earlier, Ink treats elves and clerics with respect so you both have a kind of level of authority with him through his cultural habits. However awkward Astrid thinks that is ;p

bobble

Would Ink ask for Guidance? A squeezed hand and a whisper would probably work

Sciborg

Astrid is the best cleric, fight me

bobble

04:47

Astrid does not want fighting in her name

Sciborg

*argue strongly with me

bobble

Not sure why, but I defaulted to "she" hard for Astrid today

Felt right :p

Sciborg

:P

Graylocke

Ink would not resist Guidance if offered. At the moment, Ink feels a little protective of you both.

Sciborg

We support all pronouns here in D&D Club

Prince North Læraðr

04:49

I don't need "Guidance" from a dwarf, no less

8 gold pieces smh

(I love this character)

bobble

(Hopefully he'll grow into a slightly more thoughtful elf)

Sciborg

This party is a trio of awkward nerd friends trying their best to socialize in a fantasy world and I love them

Graylocke

Ink does try to rebalance Lae's coins to only having paid 2 SP.

If necessary, when he isn't looking.

bobble

Probably necessary

Graylocke

@Sciborg Awkward Nerd Friends is a pretty accurate party name ;p

@bobble Mage Hand them in ;p

bobble

04:53

"Friends" might be pushing it a bit, especially for Lae --> Astrid

Prince North Læraðr

I don't need your money, Ink

I will have to kill some goblins, if necessary

Sciborg

Someday you will be Friends... someday :p

Graylocke

Ink feels responsible for the loss and will anti-pickpocket you if necessary ;p

Prince North Læraðr

I will take your money and drop it back into the offering box if I magically see two more gold coins, tabaxi

Graylocke

(It's either that, or the other thought... stop Lae from spending randomly by just running the party funds and making sure Fen has food money...)

:P

bobble

04:56

Maybe once we get out of town we'll stage an intervention for Lae over money

"Lae, for a bit - just a bit! - it'll best for everyone if you let Ink watch over your money pouch"

Sciborg

"The first step is acknowledging you have a problem"

bobble

Try to force him to see that he needs to think things through more

Prince North Læraðr

Hands over bag

I do not trust myself with money anyways. It is still a new concept

bobble

we haven't asked yet!

Graylocke

I'm just imagining now that in order to prevent arguments over who has the coins, we end up rigging a "pooch pouch" and Fen is running around with the party loot.

Prince North Læraðr

04:58

well, Fen's complaining, telling me to hand it over

Graylocke

"Pooch Pouch" (TM) ... It's like a wallet... with teeth.

Prince North Læraðr

Ha!

Sciborg

Reskinned "Bag of Devouring"? :P

Graylocke

Well hopefully we aren't feeding the wolf coins... >.>;

Prince North Læraðr

Shall we find a place to rest? I need to go like ASAP

Graylocke

05:00

We can end the session standing there being eyeballed by a bird ;p

Prince North Læraðr

Okay, sure :P

Sounds good to me

Dramatic music

bobble

Seeya!

Sciborg

The Bird Stare will be the final scene :P

Good night guys <3

Graylocke

Ninight :)

Prince North Læraðr

<3

Graylocke

05:01

Thanks 'borg :)

(now to pretend I am still working)

msh210

05:47

@Sciborg question about game mechanics: Let's say I want to initiate an interaction — let's say, to attack someone or convince someone or teach someone something. Can I roll for the appropriate thing (charisma to convince someone) to see how successful I'm likely to be, and then, based on the results of that roll, decide whether or not to take the action?

bobble

05:59

For what it's worth I don't think so - the roll represents your attempt.

and y'all can see the Awkward Trio's first venture into town!

and I shall go to sleep

msh210

@bobble yeah I saw. A little worried about that second guard, tbh.

@bobble good night

And also, @Sciborg , does the DM usually recommend rolls for investigation and the like, as you did, or is that the player's initiative usually (and you did it only because most of the players were newbies)? And — last question for now — how often can one roll such rolls?

Graylocke

07:55

@msh210 Yeah - the bobbly cleric is correct - the roll is checking the "world's response" to you performing the action... unless you have some magical way of unwinding time, it's too late after the roll :)

also... there is a mix of player initiated and DM initiated actions... sometimes because you are effectively rolling "reactions" to something the DM is doing...

sometimes because there is info available that the DM is willing to offer but wants to see how much of it to give...

(e.g. the church symbol... 'borg knows that Ink has no chance of recognising anything as I have +0 on a Religion check... if it had have been the cleric staring at the church, maybe 'borg would have asked for bobble to roll to see if it randomly was one of the things taught to Astrid - not a requirement that it was, not mentioned in backstory... but it may have been? let's use dice to tell us)

not that I am 'borg, but I would have done that :) is up to the DM really.

And usually, you make one roll per attempt... if it is to "know something" then you really only get to check that once. If it is to do something without any pressure on you and you have all day, you might be able to try again... if it uses up resources... then maybe only a set number of times. Again - situational.

Also - I am only talking from "Gray as GM" experience, not how 'borg likes to run things :) But these are generally how things have gone in games I have run and/ir played :)

msh210

11:50

@Graylocke Does that exist in D&D?

GM=DM?

Mithical

12:04

(yeah, Game Master vs. Dungeon Master)

msh210

12:19

thanks

@Graylocke I was really asking how many different rolls you get per [whatever].

Like, can I do an investigation roll every time I walk five feet?

Prince North Læraðr

15:49

Good morning, fellow company

bobble

monrin'

Prince North Læraðr

That bird may have cursed me. I woke up with a terrible headache, I'm afraid

bobble

I don't think anything we do right now can be "canon", note

Prince North Læraðr

(It's not meant to be :P)

bobble

the Awkward Trio is caught in time with a weird bird staring at them

Prince North Læraðr

15:52

Thankfully, some handy herbs [read:advil] have calmed the headache

Mithical

if you have no head you can't have a headache

bobble

He could have a knee-ache

Prince North Læraðr

Look half-ling, just because you're short....

bobble

you're the tall one

Prince North Læraðr

So?

bobble

16:00

why did I get stuck with the party of Tall Beings?

Prince North Læraðr

Blame Fen

bobble

Fen is a good size

Prince North Læraðr

Right, but he's the one that forced me to tag along

@msh210 No worries, I could easily take her down

Mithical

@PrinceNorthLæraðr I'm just saying, it'd bring you to a more reasonable height in any case

Prince North Læraðr

Pfft, in your dreams maybe

@Sciborg Is it too late to change my proficiencies? I'm contemplating whether to be trash at investigating but good at insight

Prince North Læraðr

16:20

(minor adjustment- I play the lyre now, not the pan flute)

(this is only because the lyre is worth more money :P)

msh210

16:50

@PrinceNorthLæraðr a fellow lyrist!

(not that I have one on me, but I do know how to play it)

Prince North Læraðr

(Aye, being has outlander has its benefits)

Sciborg

17:49

@msh210 When you make a roll, you've made the roll - you can't decide not to do it. Otherwise you would never roll below a 10 :p

Part of the fun is taking lower rolls and rolling with it

@msh210 On recommending rolls, I typically only recommend rolls if the situation warrants it and I think they would be fun to make in this moment, but you never have to make a roll I recommend - it's always what you want to do :) and in this case I did recommend more than usual because we are new.

You can roll basically whenever, but obviously rolling constantly won't gain you much information - it's all about rolling at the right time when you think it will get you important information.

and now i must go back to work <3

Prince North Læraðr

18:02

So I can roll for athletics in a stealth situation?

:P

Also, investigation vs perception?

Mithical

@PrinceNorthLæraðr ninja parkour

Prince North Læraðr

Duh

@Sciborg rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/120827/… ?

I feel like some of our rolls would've been more of a "Perception" roll, but idk

bobble

18:42

ey, dmi!

why did you want to talk here?

Dmihawk

I like DnD, I like you guys, and I like lurking?

bobble

fair enough

so far there's been a Lae-Astrid-Ink session, Johnny and Kith haven't started yet

Sciborg

@PrinceNorthLæraðr If I ask you to make a Perception that feels more like an Investigation, you can just ask to roll that instead, it's fine :)

and vice versa

and hey, Kiwi! :D

Dmihawk

hey @Sciborg :)

Prince North Læraðr

@Sciborg Okay, good, because my investigation skill is far worse than my perception

msh210

18:51

@Sciborg thanks

Prince North Læraðr

Also, debating whether to be proficient in insight instead of investigation

bobble

:O I can read deleted messages

probably a RO thing

Prince North Læraðr

I'd have a -1 in investigation, but a +5 in insight

BUt like

Sciborg

The thing about Perception vs. Investigation is that when i'm asking you to make a Perception, it's typically because some a) someone is Stealthing nearby or b) it's a general scout of the area. Investigation is more "i want to look into this SPECIFIC thing."

Prince North Læraðr

I'm not sure I would want a -1 in investigation

@Sciborg Huh. I thought investigation was piecing stuff together from what you see

Wouldn't perception still be "look-at-specific-thing" because senses?

Sciborg

18:53

Right. Investigation was like you asking to look at the road to see what you can piece together.

Prince North Læraðr

Right

Sciborg

That wouldn't be Perception because you were looking at a specific detail.

Prince North Læraðr

Oh, I was actually asking to check if there were enemies around

I wasn't examining the road itself :P

Sciborg

Oh, oops. You had said you wanted to look at the path, so I had assumed :p

Prince North Læraðr

Ah, should've clarified

Sciborg

18:54

There weren't any enemies anyway, so no worries lol

Prince North Læraðr

Should I drop investigation for insight?

I would get a +5 on insight, but like a -1 in investigation

Sciborg

Do you have a character feature that lets you switch skills around?

Prince North Læraðr

No :/

I was asking if that was allowed :P

Sciborg

Typically once you've played with the character, your choices are set in stone :p

Prince North Læraðr

Darn

Sciborg

18:55

otherwise you could easily just drop and take skills and it would be kinda cheating

Prince North Læraðr

Oh well

+1 investigation isn't bad, I guess

Sciborg

If you use your Downtime towards being proficient in a new skill, that's fine though

Prince North Læraðr

Oh, I can do that?

Ooooooh

How many hours/days are required to be proficient in a new skill?

And what do I need to do? Cost of money?

bobble

maybe someone helping you?

Sciborg

> Training
You can spend time between adventures learning a new language or training with a set of tools. Your GM might allow additional training options.

First, you must find an instructor willing to teach you. The GM determines how long it takes, and whether one or more ability checks are required.

The training lasts for 250 days and costs 1 gp per day. After you spend the requisite amount of time and money, you learn the new language or gain proficiency with the new tool.

It takes a while, obviously

bobble

18:58

oh, so you can't train with a fellow character?

Sciborg

Other characters can count as the instructor

Prince North Læraðr

Drat. Anyone proficient in Insight?

bobble

me

Prince North Læraðr

Gah!

Sciborg

gasp you'd have to learn from a dwarf :P

bobble

18:59

'course, then you'd have to admit that a dwarf could help you

Prince North Læraðr

And pay the dwarf, no less

bobble

Astrid would do it for free

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