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Dog
12:01 AM
 
@JourneymanGeek ..try any of the featured ones on PCPartPicker.
 
Dog
My "desktop" is still sitting in storage, and has a 4570K in it AFAIK. Not used it in years.
 
My "desktop" is completely fried. Crispy board ready to be put ina KFC burger.
 
No no
I am mostly happy with it :p
 
My "desktop" is in use right now.
 
12:04 AM
@allquixotic i actually read that as your desktop is in between your thighs right now
 
@Nick what
 
@Nick what?
 
What is up with all the news cases on the market?
I can't find any cases with 3.5" bays for an optical disk drive
or a multi-disk removable disk bay
weird..
 
it's half past five in the morning and I haven't slept a wink.
@Ramhound what is a (bay)[google.com/q=bay]?
 
....
It's a 3.5" HDD bay which fits multiple disks
 
12:11 AM
cd stack?
 
No
 
oh, hard drive stack.
 
and no, not a hdd stack
 
like multi-USB ports.
 
Dog
@Nick I could really do with a KFC burger right about now
Oh hey there's a KFC in town that's open for another 45 minutes
 
12:15 AM
@Dog I have debit now. Meaning, I can actually offer a treat.
 
@Ramhound you mean 5.25 ?
 
yeah sorry
Brain Fart
 
@Dog scoot feline scoooooot! Fried fowl awaits
 
I mean a flag ship case, from Thermaltake, Level 20 has none
 
Ah. Erm
I think a lot of people don't use em?
But most full size cases should still
 
Dog
12:19 AM
@JourneymanGeek I should probably walk rather than scoot, considering the amount of ketamine I took a couple hours ago
 
... dude no drugs. I think I made that clear.
 
Dog
Still would rather walk than scoot
It's like a 15 minute walk anyhows
 
So are those literally just stacked on to each other or do you think they are mounted together?
(why do I have a problem with only 6 2.5/3.5 drives when I never had the 8 my current case supported.
LOL
plus the two on the motherboard tray
 
Or it is a 2 motherboard case
 
Dog
Also, goddamn trading fees. Can't make a profit off every 1% shift in crypto if I have to pay 0.4% in trading fees and a 2% spread
 
12:25 AM
Which is a thing
 
t's a stackable case
So technically it's two of them
It's one system
 
Also erm.
Where is the PSU?
 
Dog
Also, it seems every time the Australians wake up there's a big move in the markets, and a few hours later when the Asians wake up they reverse it
 
The PSU is there
likely in the bottom part
I think I might go with the level 20, has a USB Type-C port on the front panel
 
Dog
Apparently I've done $674,000 in trades, and when I reach $1,000,000 my fees drop to 0.16%
 
12:29 AM
I think I can deal with using an external optical drive.
 
Dog
Which oddly enough implies of the $1700 I'd lost up to yesterday, $1348 was in fees
$1348 in trading fees... holy jesus
You have to be real smart to profit off these markets, and I fear I am not smart enough
For I am only a cat, destined to chase and eat chickens.
 
I need $500 quick.
@Dog help me out.
what's the strategy.
i was thinking beating 50 people at the park in chess and asking for a tenerr each... but that's tedious.
 
Dog
@Nick My strategy is to make lots of money, then lose it again real quick
 
need something quick, preferrably online
@Dog I'll follow only the first half of your instruction, then.
 
@Ramhound Congratulations.
I'm waiting for the following generation. Save for not having real-time ray-tracing capability, my GTX 1080 Ti is doing just fine.
And before that happens, I'm upgrading the processor when third-gen, 7nm Ryzen comes out.
$1,200 is just too much. NVIDIA has a monopoly in the high end of the graphics card market.
 
12:42 AM
I only got it because I was afraid both Nvidia and AMD would sell out of their next gen card quicky
 
Dog
> Profit/Loss $0.3
Yay I'm rich
 
I didn't want a Core i9 without a GPU
Oh, and i could have saved money but the 2070 founders edition only had 8GB of ram
and these darn AAA games require crude tons
2070 - 1080 Ti
I kept my 770 for 5 years
 
@Ramhound I am hoping ram prices will drop. The core i9 does look fun
 
Indeed
specially due to the soldered instead of that cheap paste
which I would have replaced with liquid metal (via siliconlottery)
 
Would this be on-topic for SuperUser?
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Q: HDMI pins 15 and 17 farther back on a non-functioning output port

SirDayBatThe HDMI output on my GPU stopped working after having previously worked without issues. Taking a look at the HDMI port, I noticed pins 15 and 17 are farther back than the others: There also appears to be a small scratch, seen above pin 17 in this picture. Is there a legitimate reason for the...

 
12:54 AM
Not really
 
It sounds like the question should be improved and kept where it is since the current answer would likely be the only answer that qustion recieves if it were migrated
 
@Ramhound Yeah. I've had games genuinely require the full 11 GB of framebuffer on my 1080 Ti.
 
I still can't believe how few new cases have 5.25" bays
 
Graphite 760T?
Three 5.25" bays.
That might be a bit large for your taste, though it seems like you're building a system that's going to cost more than $5,000...
 
Nothing is to large, but that case, is from 2014
 
1:05 AM
Yeah. It has two USB 2.0 ports on the front panel, which may require a USB 3.0 to 2.0 adapter (which is how this desktop here is set up)...
Are you planning on getting HEDT (Core X or Ryzen Threadripper), or are you getting Coffee Lake-R 8C/16T?
(USB adapter? because the Ryzen platform is very heavy on USB 3.0 ports.)
 
I am an intel person
 
Heck, I have an unused USB 3.1 Gen 2 port and I've thought about adding a front-panel hub before.
 
So I plan on getting the 8C 16T i9 9900K
 
Ah.
Are you doing SLI on this build?
 
If I went with Threadripper I would want the newest gen 32...
No
A single splurge is enough for me :$
 
1:10 AM
The RTX cards use NVIDIA's datacenter-grade NVLink technology for SLI, which offers a whopping 50 GB/s of bandwidth (up from just 2 GB/s with SLI HB).
 
I might add another down the line
I think a single RTX 2080 Ti will be fine for now
 
(the NVLink bridge is $80; not surprised it's expensive because of the sheer bandwidth it needs to handle)
 
Bob
1:25 AM
jesus
why is IPC so hard
Clipboard? wtf.
COM? ouch.
WM_COPYDATA? ... hmm, maybe, but that's still pretty janky
DDE? ...isn't that like deprecated as of 2 decades ago?
File mapping? ewwwww
Mailslot? what on earth is that?!
ok I legit have no idea wtf a mailslot is
pipes... eh. maaaaaybe?
RPC, hell no
sockets... I suppose aren't the worst idea given all the other options
 
it's just like human to human communication :D
 
If somebody has a problem with $80 with $1000-$2,000 GPU setup they have problems
 
Bob
@Ramhound hm?
 
$80 SLI bridge is cheap if your hooking it up to RTX cards
 
1:36 AM
One could argue that it should be included at that price
and/or there be an combo option for a discount
Instead of the CPU/GPU combo currently on newegg
 
might be - but on the retailer end if they want to sweeten it
 
primary reason I went with founders edition
 
I'd guess the number of people who want a dual GPU SLI is a subset of the small number of people who would buy a top end card?
(I still consider the titans the flagship, and the 60s the midrange/bare minimum I will settle for ;p)
also, I'm wondering if the lower end cards will do raytracing too - the high cost might also be yield/die size related too
hmmm
> Microsoft says vaguely that DXR will work with hardware that's currently on the market and that it will have a fallback layer that will let developers experiment with DXR on whatever hardware they have.
 
1:56 AM
@JourneymanGeek They'll have ray-tracing capability, but it'll be less detailed.
We'll see when the RTX 2060 and kin come out.
As for me... I'm waiting until NVIDIA has 7nm GPUs.
I care more about third-generation Ryzen than this.
 
Of course you do ;p
 
;)
 
Speaking of graphics cards...
this is hilariously bad
 
Though the upcoming i9-9900K is almost certainly going to be a monster CPU, and will be by far the best gaming processor yet.
 
@bwDraco you gotta look at it in another way though
AMD's scaring Intel and nvidia hard enough that... they're doing new things.
 
2:03 AM
And nowhere is this more evident than Intel producing mainstream 6C (and soon 8C) processors after doing no more than 4C for more than a decade.
 
The core i9 HEDT was clearly a reaction to threadripper. The core i9 mainstream... I have no idea. I actually think its a upnumbered core i7
 
AMD calls this the "Ryzen Effect".
This is why we need competition.
 
and all this is the effects of it
Now if Via would suddenly pop up again... ;p
 
I highly doubt it. Via's focused on embedded systems.
 
(yes, they have processors allegedly for the chinese market cause patents but...)
 
2:07 AM
Now, AMD seriously needs to remain minimally competitive somewhere in the GPU market. They need to come out with more compelling mainstream GPUs. They may not be able to compete with the RTX 20 Series, but I want something that performs like a GTX 1060 or even a GTX 1070 at lower cost.
At the far low end, we have Raven Ridge, and as the proud owner of a Raven Ridge-powered laptop, AMD's outdone itself there.
But something like the Vega 48 I proposed earlier would be a great way to target the mainstream gamer looking for a superior, high-frame-rate 1080p gaming experience.
1080p144 monitors with FreeSync are easy to find and affordable these days. AMD producing a GPU that's faster and more efficient than the RX 580 to go with them would be a great idea.
4 GB of HBM2 can go a long way with the High-Bandwidth Cache Controller.
@JourneymanGeek It is not fully enabled. The RTX 2080 Ti has 34 of 36 SMs enabled (assuming 128 CUDA cores to an SM; this may have changed).
 
@bwDraco erm, think lower
 
Like I said... there is still some room for improvement on the 12FFN process.
 
would the 2060 be a RTX or GTX?
or heck, even the 50s downwards
 
I would be surprised if NVIDIA dropped ray-tracing capability at that level.
It need not be at the highest level of detail. Raytracing can be done at a lower level of detail in combination with conventional rasterization techniques.
 
Bob
> Long Island Iced Tea Corp., now called Long Blockchain Corp.
lol.
 
2:26 AM
Oh I read about that a while ago
Even before the kodak blockchain malarchy
 
2:40 AM
Clearly, OnePlus is getting serious about selling their phones here.
(these kinds of big banner ads are not cheap)
 
Dog
I think I found my solution for reading transmitter antenna labels
 
Dog
3:05 AM
Ooh apparently we're getting a rocket launch site in the UK
 
3:23 AM
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Q: RHEL - How to admin Syslog-NG by a non-root user?

overexchangeInstalled Syslog-NG as root, because the syslog-NG and its dependency packages like Eventlog is supposed to be installed in custom folder /app/syslog-ng. But, going further, we would like a non-root user to configure Syslog server(*.conf) and start & stop Syslog-NG It would be fine to give sudo...

Migrated query to super user as shown below...
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Q: Rhel - How to create non root user, to administrate app installed by root?

overexchangeInstalled Syslog-NG as root, because the syslog-NG and its dependency packages like Eventlog is supposed to be installed in custom folder /app/syslog-ng. But, going further, we would like a non-root user to configure Syslog server(*.conf) and start & stop Syslog-NG It would be fine to give sudo...

 
sooo....
There's a bit of a channel tradition - that we don't typically encourage people just popping in and throwing their questions here for attention.
If its something you know is of interest to people here, especially specific ones, its probably alright.
But folks coming in here just to link a question is something we discourage cause we kinda don't want that old IRC thing where people would constantly be asking questions rather than, well... talking
You wouldn't know this, but its something to take note of in future.
 
Dog
3:41 AM
But I only ever read questions that get posted in here
 
Front page, dog. dog, front page.
See also watched tags (which I don't use much) and apparently custom question filtering (coming in 6-8 weeks)
 
Anyone have any recommendations for doing a software hardware remapping of keyboard keys?
I type on dvorak on my laptop and essentially want to plug in like an andruino that remaps the characters
 
Dog
@JourneymanGeek SE Chat IS my front page
 
erm
software or hardware?
@William wouldn't really work like that
you'd need something that 'speaks' usb HID if you wanted to do it with a generic keyboard, or a keyboard you can hardware remap (which is actually not uncommon) or a keyboard you can software remap (which is thankfully common)
 
hmm I need a device that translates it because I am unfortunately reluctant to switch keyboards
 
3:54 AM
seee
You'd need something that 'speaks' usb HID if you wanted to do it with a generic keyboard,
which is what this is ;p
if its a laptop keyboard, eh, there's gotta be something or you can go mad with AHK?
or switch layouts and... just type
 
@JourneymanGeek I am on a mac
that is the problem
yeah ahk works perfect on windwos
on mac its a pain in the but
I did this several years ago and because mac switched how it works internally
I have to redo the karkabiner configs
and I hate using mac except for occasional things
the best idea I have been able to come up with
is quite literally control the mouse and keyboard through a windows computer
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Another day, another GrowlToToast update :P
 
oh maaaan
@Bob I need to fix up the linux box at some point, get all the downloads done and rebuild it ;p
 
the dvorak isn't the issue
its the modifier keys on the mac
 
@William ahh. at zis point, I think SU or SR would be of more help than chat
 
4:01 AM
SR?
stackoverflow?
 
software recommendations
 
yeah I want that rabbit whole with macs and they basically said vnc
 
hmm
If you just need keyboard and mouse...
what was that called
synergy might work
there's old open source versions still floating around
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek It does non-English now! :P
 
once I get over my current bout of mehness ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Also, the new installer has one more step (plugin install) than I'd like but otherwise it's turning out to be pretty solid :D
shit
I should've made 2.0.3 2.1 instead
how2version
bit late now lol
 
@Bob which is slightly funny considering the state of non development of GFW
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek lol I had to work around one of their bugs already
stray nul characters are bad
 
I'm debating moving the notification system to matrix
navi can handle the linux end
 
Bob
4:08 AM
I don't know how this became my most popular github project, but ... here we are :P
 
now, if I had something that would toast the contents of a message on matrix to windows, no need for replies... ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :P
(tbh Toaster could probably be reused and/or split into its own project)
 
Advantages would be 1) This will work fairly securely outside a lan
2) matrix is under active development, and we're not working with a dead project forking an old FOSS version of a ... I don't even know if growl on mac is still a thing...
 
Bob
otoh I cbf figuring out the matrix protocol :P
 
@Bob wouldn't need to?
there's libraries for .net
 
4:11 AM
Synergy is a really good idea thank you
night guys. We are living in the matrix.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek you'd need some understanding of the protocol even if you use third party libs
 
Bob
the nitty gritty syntax details aren't as important as the general flow
 
Oh well ;p
 
Bob
if you have no idea when a mesage comes through, how to react, etc., you can't do much
that's assuming any lib is a fairly thin wrapper... if it's heavily abstracted, that just shifts the requirement to understanding the lib
 
4:17 AM
anyway, I still need to set up the download box again, finish up downloading my TV show backlog, and rebuilding the thing
 
Bob
lol
 
 
2 hours later…
5:54 AM
Jon Stewart Finds a Home for Brooklyn’s Lost Subway Goats nyti.ms/2N3JFrx lol
Two very baaaaad boys.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:06 AM
@Dog wuuuuuuuuuuut
 
\o/
The headband covers I bought work on both my FA003TI and my M50x \o/
 
7:52 AM
morning
@Dog that's old news
 
 
1 hour later…
9:21 AM
is it?!
/me wants infos
 
9:52 AM
o/
 
WHADDUP @Pseudohuman WHADDUP MY BOT
 
@rahuldottech I do not understand.
 
@Pseudohuman hi
 
@abcd
 
9:53 AM
@Pseudohuman help
 
@rahuldottech I do not understand.
 
@Pseudohuman listcommands
 
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@Pseudohuman asm
 
@rahuldottech €44.73 ($51.51) (ASM | Euronext Amsterdam | August 20, 2018)
 
9:55 AM
@Pseudohuman Literotica
 
@rahuldottech Failed to parse response
 
@Pseudohuman xyz
 
@rahuldottech R^3
 
@Pseudohuman lenny
 
title | Lenny
network | CBS
air dates | September 10, 1990 to March 9, 1991
episode running time | 30 minutes
seasons | 1
episodes | 15
 
9:56 AM
What is this bot
@Pseudohuman o_o
 
O | d | o
O | f | o
o | h | o
O | n | o
O | t | o
 
Wtf
NOTHING MAKES SENSE
 
It's @JennaSloan's bot and we have no idea why it is here :p
 
@JourneymanGeek clearly
@Pseudohuman longliverussia
 
@rahuldottech I do not understand.
 
9:57 AM
well this is cool
 
!!is @Pseudohuman not broken?
 
@rahuldottech But of course
 
@rahuldottech I do not understand.
 
@rahuldottech Doubtfully
 
dude can you find somewhere else to test your bot?
 
10:06 AM
Halp no internet
Any DSL gurus know what 'timeout waiting for PADO packets' is likely to signify?
A bit of phone googling says it's something about not getting a reply from past the street fibre cabinet
There's an unanswered SU question about it too
 
10:35 AM
On phone to tech support- guy I got seems knowledgeable and on the ball, which is great for front line home internet tech support!
 
10:49 AM
@bertieb The exchange hates you.
Basically your router sent the PADI, and it never recieved the PADO
The Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet (PPPoE) is a network protocol for encapsulating PPP frames inside Ethernet frames. It appeared in 1999, in the context of the boom of DSL as the solution for tunneling packets over the DSL connection to the ISP's IP network, and from there to the rest of the Internet. A 2005 networking book noted that "Most DSL providers use PPPoE, which provides authentication, encryption, and compression." Typical use of PPPoE involves leveraging the PPP facilities for authenticating the user with a username and password, predominately via the PAP protocol and less often...
 
Poor bertie Billy-no-mates
Apparently there is a "major incident" at my cabinet
And it should be repaired in one and a half hours ago
Totally unlike BT to breach a repair estimate~
Going to take a wander and see if I can find the cab
In the meantime, cat:
..wait, no image upload on mobile?
Bleh, fails even when I request desktop site
 
@bertieb give it a good kick
The cabinet, not the cat.
 
Lol
Either that, or the BT engineer... XD
Found the engineering team! (2 of them)
Must be pretty major to have two on the job
(One to swear and one to supervise)
 
11:15 AM
@bertieb is it raining?
normally its water ingress into the cab
 
@Burgi Nope, might have been at 4AM when my connection went down tho!
 
have a wander down the street and see if the BT engineers are using a sponge to mop up the water from the bottom of the cab
 
Hehe! If I could post an image I'd show you what they're doing
Could always ask them
But don't want to bother them when they're working on getting me (and other folks maybe) back online
 
@JourneymanGeek I need some quick advice. I need to run a win7 VM (I need a 32-bit environment for some software) I have an ISO, but I need a recommendation for the most lightweight VM software
 
11:53 AM
@rahuldottech eh. Most of them are heavyish. I just tend to run virtualbox
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm on a heavily metered network
 
Most of the other stuff is expensive (vmware player is no longer a thing IIRC) or won't run on windows
 
Can't afford a large download
 
qemu is tiny but its performance is crap
 
I'll give it a shot, if it doesn't get the job done then I'll get virtualbox. Thanks
 
11:55 AM
also I donno if there's a current GUI
 

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