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12:01 AM
Night
 
Woof?
!! Doooooooog
 
Ave
12:20 AM
blegh I hate arch irc
Someone used he to refer to me, I kindly corrected them, their response? "I abide by Rule 30"
rule 30 being this (one definition is not very sfw)
whenever I go to #archlinux I end up having an argument
it's a huge mess
I wish xtraeme didn't disappear...
 
@ToxicFrog dude. Language.
The be nice rule is in play, even when other folks are not nice
 
12:36 AM
@allquixotic you awake?
I managed to run ILO2 on Java on IcedTea on FF 52 ESR on Fedora (phew)
Theres a prompt of someone editing Grub on Nano, is that you?
 
@Ave TBH I default to that unless I can singular they or Know better
That response tho
Not cool
 
Ave
@JourneymanGeek I don't mind people getting it wrong at first, but when I correct them and they still use he or say something like that, that's rude.
 
@JourneymanGeek sorry. Thought that was about interactions within the channel.
 
@ToxicFrog not really
And we can politely disagree with people
@Ave Yeah it is
 
Solution: migrate #archlinux to matrix!
That'll solve everything~
That was funnier in my head
 
Ave
12:45 AM
I literally went there because synapse was outdated on repos and I wanted to talk to maintainer to ask why
 
@Ave which definition? I didn't know that was a rule till today.
 
Ave
@CircusCat the one with "GTFO" on it.
It's not a "rule", it's a 4chan meme about "rules of internet". Most commonly known for Rule 34, which is, in more sfw terms, "if something exists, there's adult content based on it".
 
Hah, latest matrix version is GDPR changes
 
Urgh. What is it with seedy men on the internet
 
12:48 AM
GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR
 
> GDPR Support:
> [7 bullet points snipped]
 
"I feel the need to demand nude photos from someone whose name I don't even know because my penis thinks louder than my brain"
!!s/GDPR/cats/
 
@CircusCat cats Support: [7 bullet points snipped] (source)
 
!!s/GDPR GDPR /TBG Licks Cats!/g 44780316
 
@CircusCat CATS GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR (source)
 
Ave
12:49 AM
!!s/GDPR GDPR/Cats Cats/
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil Here's the Cat Protocol you wanted earlier, @CircusCat
 
@Ave @CircusCat CATS Cats Cats GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR GDPR (source) (source)
@CircusCat CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS CATS (source)
Server error (status 500) occured (message probably too long)
3
 
!!s/Cat P/Dog P/
 
@bertieb @ChatBotJohnCavil Here's the Dog Protocol you wanted earlier, @CircusCat (source)
 
Ave
poor bot
 
12:50 AM
roar
 
You all killed John! Happy now?
 
Server error (status 500) occured (message probably too long)
 
Ave
speaking of gdpr
 
!!ping
 
Ave
I just got this email
 
12:51 AM
@bertieb pong
 
Ave
 
@CircusCat TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!TBG Licks Cats!GDPR (source)
 
Is Cavill now just 500-ing randomly?
Oh, edits, I see
 
Ave
more spam
 
@bertieb Yeah edits get notified as a new message
 
12:52 AM
@CircusCat I don't lick cats, they lick themselves quite well without needing my assitance.
@Ave Oh no they got her too! Those damn GDPR spammers!
 
Ave
Best part? GDPR violates marco civil.
 
HA HA HA HA
 
Ave
And 5651. turkish law
 
@Ave Best part? Brazilian "Cyber crimes" division is basically a division of "someone said something on facebook".
 
Ave
I mean we could interpret the "delete stuff when you don't need"'s "when you don't need" as "when the local laws stop requiring you to keep it"
but I won't keep deleted user info for a year. Probably.
 
12:56 AM
I don't think I've seen a single Brazilian reference to GDPR. As far as I can tell, we're all ignoring it.
 
Ave
best part? IANAL.
and neither is she. And we can't afford to get a lawyer or a DPO.
 
Best part? Knowing my employers, a few monts? years? from now I'll receive a memo "implement it in 3 days on all our 23214325435t58367rtureytiureytiuyertiuy4iuy5iu43y5iuyuirytiuyrgiuyfiuyuighfkjhg9‌​99999 sites"
 
Ave
So we're just going hyper paranoid and following GDPR in a very strict way yet leniant way.
 
"right to erasure"
 
@Ave Good luck finding a Brazilian lawyer that understands cyber law how to right-click.
 
Ave
12:59 AM
also @ThatBrazilianGuy how's the protests affecting rio?
the trucker one.
 
Ave
it took luna 3 hours to get home today and UFPE apparently sent a message to profs to not do anything about absent students tomorrow.
 
A couple hours ago the biggest news show on the country commented on how Our Dear Leader tried to "call them to reason" but they were "so stubborn"...
@Ave We don't have those but in a week we had three two separate cases of people being abducted by robbers on our campus ^___^
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
 
Ave
wtf
 
And a fire nearly started today
/o/ YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
 
Ave
I just got notified that UFPE just cancelled all morning classes for tomorrow and the classes later into the day may also be cancelled.
I'm loving the memes about the protest tho
 
Wait what happened to BTC in 2018?
 
s/BTC/gas prices in Brazil
 
Ave
nothing. The prices of gasoline prices went up a lot especially today as truckers are protesting by closing down roads etc, and people are flooding gas stations.
 
Ah, that's the joke I see
 
1:07 AM
What happened? They got rid of Dilma who was SO EVIL MAKING THE PRICES 0.5 USD PER LITER, so now Our Dear Leader made the economy so great it's 1.5 USD per liter.
Anyway I'm going to eat and netflix
Bye and have a nice night everyone
 
Ave
We're at 1.36USD here
 
> Erro de lente.
Tente novamente após ligar e desligar a câmera.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Still cheaper than the UK
 
Ave
@CircusCat people in brazil earn significantly less than people in UK
 
@bwDraco What are you doing with a Brazilian camera?
 
1:08 AM
$1.6 here.
 
lol
 
@CircusCat IIRC 80% of Brazil earns 200 USD per month
I have better stats somewhere but I do remember it's jaw dropping
Min wage is about 250 USD / month
 
Ave
list of dying countries:
- turkey
- brazil
- <more>
 
I'd import him into the country but something something immigration law
 
> Objektif hatası.
Fotoğraf makinesini kapatıp açtıktan sonra yeniden deneyin.
 
Ave
1:13 AM
*kapatıp
*açtıktan
:thumbsup:
 
Yeah. The Turkish alphabet is a bit confusing with the ı.
 
Then something about marriage fraud and how immigration limits are there because something. Ask the tories.
 
Ave
best part? i key on turkish keyboard is ı
capital i is İ
capital ı is I
and that breaks so many systems
@CircusCat I'd rather not live with the fear of being deported. If I get into somewhere, there will be no fraud involved.
 
Then I'm like, at least take in all the refugees then the tories be like
!! No
 
@CircusCat That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
1:21 AM
And then I'm like, gods sake we've got basic humanitarian obligations to these people and then tories be like yeah but middle class white folk who are completely misinformed about the reality of the situation are all NIMBY about it
And them I'm like, well duh that's why we pay YOU as politicians to make informed decisions on behalf of the public that they are ill equipped to make. And then tories be like
 
lol
 
Which is why we don't vote for tories in Scotland. Because we're better cats people
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy there's only one view of KVM over IP, so of course it's me :P
I was dozing
 
With the amount of money that's wasted on pointless political posturing (read: spewing lies in the media to win votes) they could literally feed a million Brazilians. I'm not sure for how long, but it would be for at least a day.
 
I already did a defrag to change from zstd to lzo compression but I'm not sure how to fix the error I'm getting on boot
 
1:30 AM
 
Then again the amount they spend on political campaigning in the US is way worse, they could feed 'em for at least a year
If I won the lottery I wouldn't feed a million brazillians for a year though, I'd feed one brazillian for a million years
Mostly because I wouldn't be able to afford to feed a million brazilians for a year on a typical lottery winnings
 
1:49 AM
github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/3239 @Bob gotta update my image :D
updating to 0.30.0-rc1
 
2:01 AM
Ahh. You can haz GDPR compliance
 
!!taytayboom
 
2:48 AM
!!info taytayboom
 
@CircusCat Command taytayboom, created by Michael Frank on Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:25:39 GMT
 
Well colour me surprised. Doubly surprised in fact.
 
Bob
what colour is surprised?
 
@Bob You use the British spelling for Colour in Australia?
Color me surprised!
Well actually no, I guess Australia does retain a lot of British influences.
 
Bob
@CircusCat most of our spelling is closer to BrE than AmE
 
2:56 AM
Apr 7 at 15:22, by bwDraco
This has led me to feel that American English per se is not a globally accepted language.
 
Bob
we do take a few words from AmE, though. and make up a bunch of our own.
 
@Bob Good!
I suspected as much when I realised your driving and plugs and stuff are closer to the british ones too
It's almost as if there used to be some sort of ex-British colony there or something. Unlike America.
 
Bob
imagine that
a British colony?
didn't know such things existed
@CircusCat we don't, however, use gaol :P
well, not anymore... I think it was still used through the 80s, maybe 90s
(and in more formal language? :S)
 
Damn Brits, trying to turn the whole world into their colons.
 
Well, @CircusCat, American English isn't the English most English-speaking countries use.
 
2:59 AM
Get it? Colons? Colon-ising?
 
American English had diverged dramatically from British English by the early 1800s while British English continued to spread throughout the world via the British Empire.
 
Bob
@bwDraco "dramatically"
maybe "dramatically" means something different in American English? :D
 
Ultimately, like it or not, American English per se is not a globally accepted language.
 
Wow bob, I din't realise you were part of the Matrix
 
ah
Man...so up todate. They even block dead sites
 
3:30 AM
> The Court also weighs a number of additional factors including whether blocking would place an unacceptable burden on the shoulders of ISPs, whether the blocking demand is technically possible, and whether it will be effective.
Hey at least there's a sanity check.
If only they had the sense of making those checks in the UK when implement shite like the compulsory "Adult filter"
(The answer to all 3 was "No" oddly enough)
 
TBH I find censoring of profanity by altering spelling to be kinda silly.
 
heh
@CircusCat the UK adult filter is... something special
I mean, needing to buy a physical code off a newes vendor?
 
 
4 hours later…
7:29 AM
@CircusCat is reddit filtered yet?
@JourneymanGeek yah
I knew you'd be disappointed, but I was angry :/
Not an excuse, just the facts. Sorry (to you, not them).
Also most of the mods who are external to the room, just don't seem to understand any kind of humour :/
And also have a lot of problems disengaging after whatever it was, was dealt with
PoTUS got mentioned, it all kicked off over flags. Then it was over
Mod stuck around for at least 1/2 hr, threatening lots but not actually doing any de-escalation of the situation (which at this point was no longer a situation, but just regulars poking fun at a broken system).
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@bwDraco did you finish building furniture?
 
Got more work to do tomorrow.
 
I always find it amazing how when Ikea can make instructions that are so easy to follow, some places still make DIY stuff that's almost impossible to actually build correctly.
o_O. what on earth you building?
 
@bwDraco Didn't you say you were going to be like an hour ago? lol
 
@djsmiley2k Mostly shelving and cabinets for several different locations in the house. Would prefer not to go into detail.
 
sure
Ah lots of things,
the only big things I've built that took more than a day was a bed frame I had to adapt
 
7:41 AM
@djsmiley2k FWIW, I'm honestly disappointed that some users take to political discussion so poorly. Any semblance of civility goes right down the drain as soon as I try to bring up a somewhat interesting political topic.
I did not actually see the flags, but IMO they were unwarranted.
Going forward, I'm going to have to abstain to politics generally.
Perhaps discussing political systems in general would be okay, but naming specific politicians would be a no-go.
!!s/to p/from p/
 
@bwDraco Going forward, I'm going from have to abstain to politics generally. (source)
@bwDraco Going forward, I'm going to have to abstain from politics generally. (source)
 
Bleh.
 
I think we get what you mean. :)
 
7:56 AM
morning
@CircusCat that is the house of lords
 
8:42 AM
It's just one of those subjects you can't discuss without it becoming heated
 
@djsmiley2k well... Most mods who hang out here totally have less blunt tools at our disposal. Knowing all you guys is a big start as does knowing the context of chat.
And well I don't just follow through on these incidents with the mods involved to keep you guys or the mods happy.
 
9:01 AM
Sure. i get that
As I said, I'm sorry for any trouble it's caused you.
 
morning
 
user226528
9:20 AM
Hi, guys :)
 
user226528
Oh, wait. Wrong room. Never mind.
 
9:32 AM
I guess it is
 
9:43 AM
@djsmiley2k here I have the benefit of treating chat as a long term project. Sometimes though you gotta make a spot decision - then worry about how people will react
 
Sadly it is so.
 
My approach to dealing with it is to go "Hey, so this thing got flagged - I actually do think its borderline"
unless its a troll situation - or yanno, something obviously bad
And even I mess up at times
(and I don't count that pesky need to sleep)
 
there is a poster in Wolfenstein of a space dog
 
> In doing so they release energy. That energy powers the Sun, and we hope that local, slightly smaller versions might someday supply electricity.
slightly smaller? XD
 
heh, that's the part that bothers me the most about the first game
it gets easier when they're robots but killing actual dogs, maaan
ITS IS NOT FRITZ FAULT! HIS OWNERS ARE TERRIBLE PEOPLE!
 
10:23 AM
i've just got the helicopters
 
GET TO DA CHOPPA
 
 
1 hour later…
11:35 AM
Good morning to whoever slept better than me
(I'm guessing this means everyone. In case you slept worse than me, my condolences)
 
if you are having issues sleeping, Dr @Burgi prescribes a bottle of Chilean Red Wine to yourself
then you will have trouble waking up
 
@CircusCat Well I can get a decent meal for USD 4 (not awesome but decent enough). Then 4 million USD would feed a million Brazilians for a day. Less money if you bought in bulk and my prices include a restaurant operational costs diluted in the price.
@Burgi I already have trouble waking up every day, and also trouble getting to sleep. All I'm missing is the wine!
 
i rest my case
 
11:51 AM
@ThatBrazilianGuy I have a 1 yr old.
 
@djsmiley2k I prescribe a bottle of red wine
to be administered liberally to either the child or parent
or is that how you ended up with a child in the first place? ;)
!!xkcd 674
 
12:25 PM
@Burgi Broken hand? Memory lapses? Family issues? Disemployment? Depression? Irregular sleep? Raging alcoholism? Dr. @Burgi's red wine will cure you!
 
@djsmiley2k interesting story, but that's too political for me to say anything more about it in here, sorry (as much as I'd like to)
 
@allquixotic Do you guys have a secondary chatroom to discuss political stuff, like Arqade has This is Fine?
 
@allquixotic hahah, indeed.
@Nzall seems lame to me :/
We have a backup
after all, that's our room topic ! :D
 
@Nzall We're in the process of implementing an alternative chatroom on Matrix (see our pinned star)
But AFAIK it's not for discussing political stuff
 
it's not explicitly for political stuff, but I don't think it's anti-political either
it just has, let's say, a higher threshold of tolerance
 
that's cool @Burgi
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy the last one sounds like the bite of the dog that bit you
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I read 'Disemployment' as 'Disembowelment' and was like 'Woah, that's some good wine!'
 
@djsmiley2k I dunno, maybe they're just not used to us being so much funnier than any other channels in here. Or just more tolerant.
 
12:56 PM
@Burgi Don't honestly know. It's a frequently misrepresented image on the internet that I used for comedic effect.
 
@CircusCat speaking of, you planning to Enter The Matrix? :P
you're my favorite kitty cat besides my RL one (and me, of course; cats love themselves)
 
Awwww
Allq and circus... Under a server... R E M O T I N G
 
> Annoying ADS
they actually admit their ads are annoying
 
Truth in advertising?
 
@JourneymanGeek nice pun
 
1:14 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm thinking bulk, and importing from cheaper countries. You can get a reasonable restaurant meal for $2 in some parts of Thailand, for example, and I bet the raw materials are like, $1. When you have a million units to build, the cost of hiring a shipping ship is also reasonable.
@CircusCat Oh, that is, not is that. Duh I'm half awake, nvm.
@allquixotic Yes, once I get my arse around to figuring it out.
 
@CircusCat :D
you thinking to do it the Hard Way with your own homeserver, or just quick and dirty?
 
I've been off the brain suppressing drugs for a week, so I'm lucid, but that doesn't mean I can process complicated technical tasks like clicking buttons on a website just yet.
 
ahh :P
yeah, clicking buttons is hard
 
@allquixotic When you only have paws, and no fingers, which counts as a disability by the way! But don't have disability adapted computer peripherals... :-(
Oh hey Riot isn't what I think it was
 
lol
 
1:18 PM
(In Ingress, Riot was a huge, global, and illegal data harvesting platform used for cheating and stalking/harassing players, among other things... kicked off a huge scandal late last year)
 
wow
 
Oh, can you change usernames in the matrix?
Or do I have to pick one and stick with it forever
 
you can change your display name, but not your login name
fortunately that's all you need to be able to continue your reputation as TOWMN
 
Close enough.
 
1:23 PM
Oh fer fucks sake, 80% of my inbox is GDPR shite again today
OK I think I did the thing.
I did a thing, and now I have yet another tab in my browser window dedicated to the numerous IM platforms I'm on.
 
\o/
 
@CircusCat Enable web notifications and (if they built the thing right) you don't need a tab
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Eh, I like to keep a tab for each messaging platform anyway.
I don't like how clicking web notifications in Chrome opens up a tab to the site giving the notification in a seemingly random space in a seemingly random window.
 
wait what
web notifications work without keeping the page open?
 
@djsmiley2k Facebook invented them, to use as a backdoor into your mind even when you don't have it open.
 
1:37 PM
@djsmiley2k "Sorry, you need Flash to play this"
 
Blasphemy!
 
I'm looking over r/windows and r/windows10 and there are too many complaints about problems and hard to uninstall bloatware games
some people mention that there are allegedly improvements under the hood in 10 over 7
just thinking about it makes my head hurt
 
bloatware games such as?
i'm surprised windows doesn't do any kind of compartmentalisation akin to docker now, when installing stuff.
So you wanna gete rid of something, you nuke the entire container.
 
apparently you have to first install them and fully update before you can completely uninstall
but the next update it happens again
what's interesting is that according to all these comments in each of these threads, there are people who say it never happens for them, or they can uninstall these things just fine on the first try
 
1:47 PM
lets play a game of 'did that kernel upgrade go very very wrong?'
 
what's with that inconsistency
 
The answer is YES \o/
 
Bob
*shrug* I never look at the program list so I never see the stub entries in the first place
 
can't get back into my server. Awesome.
 
Bob
like, the last time I looked at the program list was probably in Vista :P
 
1:48 PM
how do you do things then?
 
Bob
winkey => start typing to search
 
amen.
 
so you get to see the list still, in that case
 
nope
 
Bob
nup
 
1:49 PM
not if you type faster than it searches
 
how so
 
well, I never!
I'm still on 7 so idk how 10 works
maybe it puts the cursor into that search bar on the taskbar on winkey
oh programs list
 
welp... NK is back to being weird
 
I didn't realize it's not just what you see when you hit winkey
yea I haven't browsed All Programs thing for ages
but I do have all the most used apps pinned in the start menu list
a lot of complaints about how search works too
wonder if there's a 3rd party fix for that
gotta hire a new bin soon
that reminds me this morning I saw a garbage can on fire literally
these cigarette butts are way too powerful
 
1:54 PM
🔪
Called 'Honcho'
 
some lipstick emoji? it's too small I can't see
 
🎏
tis a knife.
 
oh I thought that was a ciggie
 
👀
Apparently the windows emoji keyboard has a bunch of odd cat ones
 
do you guys happen to know if there's a non-root way to give phone apps permissions to fake data sources and settings?
like if some app wants access to camera, calendar, contacts, etc, just sandbox it with no data to steal
I've seen many root methods but is there official android functionality for that yet?
maybe in the latest versions
 

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