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Bob
2:18 AM
quiet day
 
2:51 AM
quite
 
 
3 hours later…
5:33 AM
blah
people need to stop thinking they can comment on my blog for mod issues
 
 
2 hours later…
7:12 AM
@JourneymanGeek you has a blog?
 
yup
journeymangeek.com
 
Whhhhhat
it's not even like it's associated :O
 
Its on my profile ;p
but but
shrug There's proper channels for such things
 
yeah
I have a link to my youtube channel in my profile tho :P
 
._. Over a post I deleted 4 years ago
 
7:18 AM
:D
 
7:36 AM
ah joys
so the guy who started before me, sayin that cat5 cable won't do 1Gbps
my senior, saying 'yes it will'
the theroetical vs the actual
/me gets the popcorn
 
You talking Cat5, or Cat5e?
 
Cat5.
ollllllllld cables
but technically, can do 1Gbps
and in this case it's just patching from a port to the switch, maybe 2m max
 
7:54 AM
shrug try it? ;p
 
welp, not my problem
I'd either try it, or find a cat5e
But i swear he spends more time talking about problems than actually working on them.
 
8:26 AM
morning
 
Sup @Burgi
/me has them tired eyes
thanks to my 3:30am wake up call
oh lord
someones dumped binaries of C.P. into the bitcoin blockchain.
This is why the world can't have anon.
 
8:43 AM
> No they can't
They are only tested for 100mhz so can only carry 100mb
Cat 5e is 350mhz
big, big difference
/me sighs
technically they can, I say
> Category 5 cable is used in structured cabling for computer networks such as Ethernet over twisted pair. The cable standard provides performance of up to 100 MHz and is suitable for 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX (Fast Ethernet), and 1000BASE-T (Gigabit Ethernet). 10BASE-T and 100BASE-TX Ethernet connections require two wire pairs. 1000BASE-T Ethernet connections require four wire pairs. Through the use of power over Ethernet (PoE), power can be carried over the cable in addition to Ethernet data.
Wikipedia agrees.
/me goes back to sleep.
 
> We were let down by our network provider, Zayo, which meant we let our customers down. For that I am truly sorry.
We saw a ‘perfect storm’ of incidents on Thursday including a hardware failure on the north west section of Zayo’s network, a fibre break on their north east section, and our phones going down. We alerted Zayo to the hardware failure at 9.40am and if they had repaired it within their agreed SLA then the resilience in the network would have meant the fibre break on Thursday afternoon would have had no impact on services. Sadly, that wasn’t the case.
hmm...
 
9:00 AM
So your provider doesn't have resilience? ;/
Not sure how a SLA would of saved them, if two things broke
Ah I do see now, after re-reading.
But still.... meh
 
Does anyone use Visual Studio Team Services with TFS and also use the Code Search extension:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vsts/search/code/code-search?view=vsts

because I'm having some trouble with it saying:

"There was a problem processing your request.
Unexpected error in search service."

If I keep opening new tabs in incognito windows in Chrome, eventually the request goes through. It doesn't work if I keep opening the tab in a normal Chrome window.

(Sorry if this is not the correct place to ask)
 
is TFS self-hosted?
 
Yes.
Sorry, I got distracted by the XKCD linked on the right.
 
9:17 AM
hmmm... you might get a better response on Server Fault
 
That does sound like the right place. Thanks
 
> I am currently working with a highly reputable Software House in the West Midlands who are looking for a Permanent Front End Developer to join their growing team. The company has over 650 clients Worldwide and you will have an influential role to play by writing all of the business code.
@Burgi move down here :P
    The company has over *650 clients* Worldwide

    by writing *all* of the business code.
hmmm, can't emphise it?
 
so not a FE dev but a full stack
 
:D yeah
 
9:39 AM
@djsmiley2k you put it in a code block; formatting doesn't work in a code block
nor does it work on multi-line messages (except for quotes, maybe)
 
I r dumb with the formatting here
@allquixotic ah ok
 
> .
*test*
 
nope, doesn't work in quotes them
then(
ffssfsfsfs
 
only works on single lines
 
I tried quotes first, then code, lol
Ah well, point made ;)
thanks @allquixotic
> Tesla's defense coincides with a report from San Francisco, California, ABC affiliate KGO-TV in which Huang's brother, Will, claimed that Walter had complained to his Tesla dealer about how his car swerved unexpectedly several times when passing the area where the accident eventually occurred.
defaq
if you knew your car had problems with a specific area... surely it's then, if not always, that you're going to have your hands on the wheel?
 
9:53 AM
americans....
and a californian no less
they can't help themselves when it comes to suing people
 
10:19 AM
Just one family from Brazil - must be @ThatBrazilianGuy since there is only one family from Brazil
 
interesting
 
smething weird going on with these routers
shows no dhcp leases
yet devices have dhcp
from the correct pools
 
11:18 AM
@allquixotic lol
that was fun
we had a fire - not a fire - fire! fire alarm
 
11:37 AM
I don't get it though
why doesn't the car slow down when it doesn't know wtf to do
and start flashing lights and sounding alarms going beserk
 
11:55 AM
Hmmm
I'm in the mood to write some code
I wonder if I could finally make that website that'll take advantage of the Kindle e-ink screen D:
need it to display Temp / Other things
But I hate doing web stuff :d
 
12:12 PM
@allquixotic This site makes my potato freeze
For quite literally the first time since I was hired we're working on a site I'm proud of.
It's nearly launched, in fact it is live but with no content.
I'd show you guys but ahem SOMEBODY might have performed the wrong command in the server and erased the conf file with the DB credentials...
...five minutes before closing time yesterday.
(Nothing that a db reset command won't fix)
(and a great reminder of the importance of backups)
(and that includes backing up your db credentials)
 
12:44 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy you've got backups, right? ;)
:D
/me goes away
 
@djsmiley2k The source code is all gitified, the prod code is all scripted and dockerized, and the content was inexistent, so all is fine. (I'll have to recreate a handful user accounts). We'll very surely implement a file and db backup at another location as the next thing we'll do.
 
=)
Sooooooooooo
I have some urls, which display a page, which creates a graph (on the same page). I then have to take a screenshot of said graph and insert it into a word document.
Sooooo I'd like to just display the 8 images on a single webpage, instead of 8 tabs
The graphs are svg's
infact, it's all within a Div with the class of 'ResourceWrapper' - wasn't there some nice way of just displaying only that class?
yey my virtualbox network is broken again :(
 
1:23 PM
hmmm i fixed it in a bodge, way, I might try and fix it properly in a bit.
It'd be nice if I could have every office vlan on my machine ;D
But I'm usnure how windows is going to feel about 10 vlans...
 
2:20 PM
lol love it
 
2:35 PM
ffs
we get given a super strict deadline to build this website, so we say "keep it super simple so we won't have to build a million different templates" but the CEO turns around and says "make it whizzy! but you can't have more time"
 
So...
Trends in computing.
I keep hearing about the cloud and everything as a service, and people are moving away from traditional computing systems.
It looks like the big theme is that people are caring less about the hardware they're using and more about the experiences they can get. If X device can run Netflix/browse the web/run office apps/play game ABC/etc., the specific hardware used isn't truly relevant anymore. What matters is that they can get that experience wherever they want.
 
@bwDraco I tend to refer to that as machines becoming appliances
and well
most people are happy with their walled gardens and not having to worry about the little things
 
People care about being able to do what they need to do and nothing more.
 
Don't we all? ;p
Just that we need/want to do more
 
Enthusiasts like us will always be there, and high-end gaming machines are actually a growing segment. But for the average consumer, specific hardware specs and features are becoming irrelevant.
What I'm seeing is, "this machine has a 7th Gen Core i3 processor, great, it'll handle 4K Netflix."
It's no longer a matter of "device must support features 1, 2, and 3, CPU has clock frequency of at least 1.5 GHz, system has at least 4 GB memory, hard drive/SSD has at least 10 GB free, blah blah blah".
 
2:52 PM
One rarely looks at the horsepower of their blender ;)
 
This is what's driving the move to the cloud and away from the traditional PC. Good enough is good enough.
 
3:07 PM
@JourneymanGeek hehe
I do, but I'm weird.
 
3:21 PM
But Will It Blend™ another blender?
 
@bertieb Asking the important questions I see :)
 
@djsmiley2k "Phew! Blender dust! Don't breathe this..."
 
Further question: if your blender could blend another blender, could you use Blender to render that blender blending a blender?
 
Marble dust man, as a kid, that captured my imagination
@bertieb Afterwards, you'd surely need to go on a bender...
 
3:32 PM
Or the other way!
A post-bender blender
So if you went on a bender would you still be able to use Blender post-bender to render your blender blending another blender?
(man, keeping the words straight is touch)
 
If your name was Bender could you use Blender post-bender to render your blender blending another blender?
(semantic satiation is really beginning to set in)
 
TIL there's a phrase for that.
 
Other ideas beginning to creep in: if you can install netBSD on a toaster you could install Blender on a blender; using Splenda to revivify yourself post-bender, working as a (fat) renderer... but I think I'll quit while I'm still ahead
@djsmiley2k I actually had to look up Blender (the renderer) there to make sure it actually was called that because I'd used the word too many times -_-
Is it just me or does Blender the Renderer sound like some nineties rip-off of Sonic the Hedgehog ?
More ideas: you could be doing this blender blender rendering on the forest moon of Endor, followed up by watching Ender's Game and playing Hideo Kojima's Zone of Enders
(I'll admit if isn't really 'quitting' if I keep listing ideas, but they have to go somewhere...)
 
3:48 PM
@Burgi The eternal struggle between light and darkness devs and marketing.
Wait. You work for a marketing agency, right? Doesn't that makes you... the enemy?
 
probably
 
Bob
@bertieb "no"
 
@bwDraco if you move to the cloud and the cloud goes down, how do you keep working?
2
 
Bob
Because the Blender UI is like a case study of how not to UI
I'm not sure anyone capable of using it is fully sane.
 
@Bob Ahh, but if your name was Bender you might not be considered fully sane (He's been to the HAL Institute at least 2 or 3 times :P)
 
4:17 PM
lol @ "how not to UI"
"How should I not UI?"
 
cya guys
 
@Burgi Oh is that a zen question?
 
no
its a genuine question that people who move their entire businesses into the cloud cannot answer
 
"The cloud was inside you the whole time!"
 
if you are a one-man band or small company (up to 10 staff), cloud hosting makes a little bit of sense
 
4:36 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy That picture annoys me on many levels. Random height people all over the place. They seem to have specifically put short people next to tall ones.
 
5:19 PM
@Burgi The cloud should be treated like building an expandable extension to your house
you don't move out of your house into the extension, do you
 
@djsmiley2k a hybrid model, yes. completely agree, but a lot of organisations market it as an all or nothing thing
 
yup
whicvh is dumb]
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy very representative of El Trumpo state of mind
 
keep you files and login/connectivity services local then move email and archiving to the cloud
 
5:36 PM
ugh.... a huge dilemma....
 
Check out some of my photography here! rahuly.ga/l/#15227764145700
 
its james corden being hit in the face. the downside is it has james corden in it...
 
(don't open if you're on a metered connection - website is sorta heavy)
 
who is the girl in the yellow top?
 
@Burgi ex-friend. Why?
 
5:38 PM
just wondered if she was one of the many ex-girlfriends
 
@Burgi Nah. She was my best friend. Till about a month ago, when out of the blue she decided that she wanted nothing to do with me.
She won't speak to me anymore. I still don't know why, she won't tell me.
 
she fancies the arse off you and you won't go on a date with her
 
@Burgi ehhh
idk
 
lol
 
Girl in blue top in front of mountains is ex-gf. And current best friend
 
5:40 PM
dude its obvious
 
49 and 52 lol
 
@Burgi Nah. She isn't interested in me in that way, and vice-versa
 
So 2.1 has been crying for like an hour after we woke him up
eventually i sit at the computer with him, wondering wtf to do
 
@djsmiley2k weirdo-wearing-my-specs and lego-minifigure?
 
I hit play on RHCP - Can't Stop.
 
5:41 PM
@djsmiley2k Search YouTube for cartoons, obv
 
He's instantly mesmerised
how does music do this
@rahuldottech it's the same guy xD
 
lol
 
@djsmiley2k lmaoo
 
Now Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man
still works
 
@djsmiley2k born metalhead
 
5:43 PM
luk @ me #hottie
 
@Burgi well that's right
he likes Avatar and 5finger death punch
 
@rahuldottech you need to let @Ave know that there are more semi-naked photos of you online ;)
 
Ave
#illegal
 
@Burgi These aren't semi-naked, and I'm pretty sure @ave has... other distractions/interests :P
 
Ave
but yeah now that we're posting pictures
 
5:45 PM
@Ave *waits in anticipation*
 
Ave
.
@rahuldottech shh no leaking
 
@Ave :))
Also, reading c++ on kindle?
asdffgujhn
 
Ave
C on kobo
 
#PDFsFTW
 
Ave
(it's a parody of this)
 
5:46 PM
@Ave AHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Ave
there's also a variant of that
where I dab on the book
 
r u dabbing
 
Ave
yes
 
5:50 PM
:L<
 
@Ave is that you?
 
Ave
yes
why?
 
not what i had in my head
 
@Burgi her gravatar is basically what she looks like
 
i figured
 
5:52 PM
@Ave That you?
 
Ave
@Burgi in a good or a bad way?
@ThatBrazilianGuy yes
 
@Ave you are pretty and you will break many boy's hearts ;)
 
@Burgi or girls*
 
same thing
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy pliz rate my fotos rahuly.ga/l/#15227764145700
 
5:53 PM
I think it's girls, IIRC.
 
hence the breaking of many boys hearts
 
I thought our resident heartbreaker was @rahuldottech
 
true
 
Ave
@ThatBrazilianGuy yes, I'm a lesbian
 
5:55 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy I still maintain that title, excuz mi
 
@rahuldottech Don't be silly, @ave is a happy yellow egg.
3
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy lol
 
#AveTheOmlette
3
 
Ave
@rahuldottech excuse me but did you see my polycule recently?
 
Du Fromagge
 
5:56 PM
@Ave oh yes.
that was... intense
 
@Ave ugh you kids and your many strange relationships!
 
@Burgi lulziez
 
@Ave It's... Growing. Spreading. Like a nest. I see it now... If only it was not too late.
 
Ave
@Burgi I mean
@ThatBrazilianGuy as it grows it becomes harder to maintain and people start falling off
so it doesn't grow lately
mostly internal changes etc
and oh god today 3rd month anniversary with person on left on the image
we had 5 months on april first with the one on bottom of image
 
speaking of weird relationship happenings, sunday night my GF went to bed before me and was so out of it that when i went to bed i woke her up and she looked at me in such a weird way and said to me "where am i?" then a few seconds later she said "who are you?"
 
6:01 PM
@Ave did it expand?
 
Ave
@Burgi what happened after that?
 
@Burgi DID U DRUG HER
 
it was the look of utter confusion that was so cute
 
Burgi then came back to his house.
 
lol
 
Ave
6:03 PM
@jokerdino yes. Someone left us a while ago, and someone is new.
 
idk y but im typin so weirdly today but i gues ill keep it up for a while its weird but i lyk it
 
@Ave Person on the.left? But all I see is a human and a Kindle. Which one is you? The Kindle? ;P
 
Ave
@ThatBrazilianGuy I mean on use.elixi.re/i/l8s.png
 
@Ave nothing between person on extreme left and extreme right?
 
@rahuldottech she drugged herself because of a cold
 
6:03 PM
@Burgi aw
@Burgi ah
 
which she gave to me btw >:(
 
Ave
@rahuldottech no. they are long time friends etc
person on right wants it, dunno about person on left
 
@Ave she pounced on me and snuggled close mumbling weirdness
 
Ave
@Burgi cute.
 
@Burgi PSYCHO BURGI CONFIRMED OMG
 
6:05 PM
:D
 
@Burgi u make me jealous
 
@rahuldottech swap you momentary cuteness for a hideous cold
 
what's the count @rahul?
 
I mean... I've not been actively looking for a relationship because 12th grade basically decides your future in India ... but I think I'm open to flings
 
You already have a gf, now all you need is some cough medicine and a house.
 
6:06 PM
@jokerdino It's weird. IDK what to count and what not to count now. IDK.
 
@rahuldottech everything
 
Count Dracula.
 
@rahuldottech first, they say 10th, then 12th, then college, then work, then marriage, then kids, their 10th....
 
@rahuldottech pfffft, india is growing. you'll find your niche buying up british companies like all the other indians
 
I'm learning English because my gf's English
it has been fun
 
6:08 PM
afk, food
 
@jokerdino You're... Learning English? Huh?
 
1. ah ah ah, 2. ah ah ah, 3. ah ah ah
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Going slow
 
phew
 
sup @bwDraco
 
6:16 PM
Cleaned both toilets and bathroom sinks in this house, as well as the range hood.
Used an unbelievable amount of Formula 409.
And paper towels :P
The range hood. By golly.
All that oil :\
 
meh oil aint so bad
a pain to clean tho!
 
Ultimately, it's housekeeping. Whether you like it or not, you have to do it.
I tend to do it while my parents are out of the house so I can do it undisturbed.
 
6:35 PM
yup
my wife is sooo bad at it most of the time :/
 
7:05 PM
uhoh
everryone quiuck, type!
hide this
 
7:33 PM
Anyone know how to get the error code from the Printing_admin_scripts as a variable, without editing the original script? %ERRORLEVEL% always seems to return 0
 
@CanadianLuke nope D:
 
Dang... Made myself a kick-ass Powershell script to remove the old print queues and drivers... And I'm trying to format the log to be useful (instead of the default output -.-), but the .vbs scripts don't use error levels!
 
ok now it's making more sense
so you run 'printing_admin_scripts' and it returns 0?
 
Right
Even if I use gibberish for variables
 
thn nope
the script is reporting it finished ok
 
7:38 PM
It echos an error out (i.e. 80041002 means not found)
 
you can't gain insight beyond that
 
other than maybe checking the output, and deriving an error from it
 
Guess it's gonna look like garbage output then
Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.812
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Unable to delete printer driver KONICA MINOLTA 554eSeriesPCL Error 0x80041002 Not found
Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.812
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Unable to delete printer driver KONICA MINOLTA 754SeriesPCL Error 0x80041002 Not found
 
if no output = no error
then maybe it's a bit easier
 
7:38 PM
And yet, errorlevel == 0
 
can you check for a printers existance, before calling to delete it?
instead of just blindly trying to delete every printer ever?
or redirect the output as you don't care about it anyway?
 
Then I'm running the script many times. There's an array at the top that the SysAdmin should fill out to delete only the selected printers
One sec, I'll pastebin it
 
should hahah
What's wrong with running a script many times?
for each of this array, do x
 
It goes through and runs the commands correctly, but the output is useless when you have multiple printers
 
If ($LASTEXITCODE -eq 0x80041002) {
    Write-Host "$_ does not exist" | Out-File -Append -FilePath $DebugLogLocation
} else {
    Write-Host "$_ driver removed" | Out-File -Append -FilePath $DebugLogLocation
}
so you're never setting an error code here for example
 
7:46 PM
Right, but $LASTEXITCODE always equals 0... No matter what
The .vbs scripts are located in %WINDIR%\System32\Printing_admin_scripts\en-US on all Windows 7+ computers
Those scripts, which I need to interact with, are not exiting with codes other than 0
 
run it with no arguements?
 
Try it on your computer
 
ah ok
so you never get If ($LASTEXITCODE -eq 0x80041002) { being true?
I can't test it haHA
C:\Windows\System32\cscript.exe //H:CSCRIPT
C:\Windows\System32\cscript.exe //H:CSCRIPT
ffs
CScript Error: Can't change default script host.
@CanadianLuke how do i echo out the $lastexitcode on cmd?
 
8:06 PM
34
A: ERRORLEVEL inside IF

Jim DavisTry using setlocal enabledelayedexpansion at the start of your batch file, and !ERRORLEVEL! inside your IF. This seems to work for me: @echo off setlocal enabledelayedexpansion dir nul echo %ERRORLEVEL% if .1.==.1. ( urklbkrlksdj - not a command echo %ERRORLEVEL% echo !ERRORLEVEL! )

seems it's a weird bug/known issue
> 07/11/2001
> It is very difficult to use CSCRIPT.EXE in command files, because CSCRIPT.EXE sets ERRORLEVEL to ZERO for both script syntax errors and for un-trapped object errors (for example, ADO errors).

Therefore, when calling a script with code such as the following:
Yup, cscript is a pos. thanks microsoft.
 
8:53 PM
OK, so I see the links you posted, but I don't follow how I can use that in Powershell
 
 
2 hours later…
10:47 PM
@CanadianLuke Might it be easier to check whether the output text of the VBS script contains that error code?
 
11:04 PM
Hmmm... I'll give that a go!
 
Wow... talking with HP support using their chat system. The guy is asking me to reply, but the reply box is gone.
 
11:20 PM
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Q: My ISP just told me I have a "NAT public IP address" and not "Dynamic public.." ... Is this even legal?

Luka MilosevicI can't use my PS3 and I can't port forward, and the customer support just confirmed that their DHCP server is actually giving me an address 10 other people are using (NAT). They said they have too many customers and not enough IPs so they NAT their customers, wtf? Can they really do this, what c...

Carrier-grade NAT breaks things in unexpected ways.
 
11:33 PM
@BenN I tried, but I'm not getting any further... See here
 
11:59 PM
@CanadianLuke Does prnmngr.vbs even return the error you're looking for when used normally?
 

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