Root Access

12:10 AM

@allquixotic One of my favourite movies is Lord of War.

Touches some great points about the trafficking of arms and how irresponsible nations are/were when they pull out of warzones without a good exit strategy.

Journeyman Geek

2:02 AM

That's a little too disturbing

allquixotic

4:02 AM

@bwDraco yes

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I wouldn't be surprised if you could get spares for that

its a remarkably standard design. It looks just like my dodgy chinese torchlight

Bob

4:21 AM

@JourneymanGeek it costs like $15 off fasttech :P

"tactical flashlight" is like "gaming motherboard"

possibly worse

bwDraco

lol

Well, when it comes to flashlights, there's a huge amount of variation in quality. You generally need to spend at least $60-80 to get anything worthy of the "tactical" moniker.

Bob

uh, no?

"tactical" is ... meaningless

bwDraco

I don't quite see it as such, but it's an oft-abused term nonetheless.

Bob

also feels like one of those cases where price really does not imply quality

just the branding and a feature list

and here I am actively looking for lights without a strobe because it's annoying as all hell and pretty useless for a torch

the one advantage over a cheaper torch is it might have a buck-boost driver where the cheaper one is probably linear. but that also adds to the bulk, and linear is pretty efficient with typical battery and LED voltages

bwDraco

4:43 AM

flashlight.nitecore.com/ILLUMINATION/E/EA11 - 1xAA, takes both 14500 Li-ion and regular alkaline/NiMH AA cells.

Needs an IMR cell for best performance, but will work with pretty much any AA-sized cell.

Rahul2001

5:18 AM

I've just been told by someone to ask them out in Shakespearean.

LookAtMyLifeFFS

Journeyman Geek

5:36 AM

@bwDraco on the other hand, you're essentially trying to replace a piece of glass

bwDraco

The problem is that the head is deformed. The bezel will not unscrew.

Journeyman Geek

.... This is where adam savage would literally break out a bandsaw...

and ow that's a pricy flashlight

... that said I carry one from daiso, cause ironically I need a flashlight that's not actually too bright for work...

bwDraco

A round piece of glass wouldn't fit there. I'm not going to bother at this point. It isn't going to be trivial to fix no matter how you look at it.

Journeyman Geek

heh

I just took apart a broken bread maker ;)

If its broken, taking it apart isn't going to render it any less usable?

bwDraco

It's just not worth it.

I don't have the sort of tools needed to perform this sort of repair anyway.

Journeyman Geek

5:46 AM

hah

The most important tool is an analytical mind

all the rest can be jerry rigged

bwDraco

The unit turns on. I could try to remove all the glass shards and replace it with some appropriately-sized cover made of polycarbonate, but again, I don't have the tooling to do this.

Anyhow, it's already been replaced with a brand-new light, and will just try to be more careful not to let anything like this happen again.

Lesson learned.

Anyway, good night.

allquixotic

6:14 AM

@Bob my ThruNite TC12 has strobe but I've never accidentally activated it

I use it on "Low" setting 99% of the time (out of Nitelight, Low, Medium, High and Turbo) and even for whole room illumination by standing it up on its end and pointing it at the ceiling for sometimes hours

never burned down the state of charge of the 18650 to <20% despite extensive use

it's suffered chest-high drops to concrete with only cosmetic damage

Journeyman Geek

> After some trial and error, they found that by mounting a large can filled with milk onto the underside of each wing tip of their fighter planes, attaching a stirring shaft to a wind-driven propeller, and then undertaking a training sortie at 30,000 feet, they could supply 100 servicemen with a helping of ice cream every day, whilst simultaneously provoking the Japanese to waste a few shells trying to bring them down.

bbc.com/news/business-40610570

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Boris_yo

I have Poweramp and Google Music apps on my smartphone. I use bluetooth earbuds and found that a lot of times its controls would work with Google Music app than Poweramp (which is what I don't want).

Is there a way to make Poweramp primary app when it comes to controlling it through bluetooth earbuds?

allquixotic

6:35 AM

@Boris_yo No

the bluetooth implementation on Android is embarrassingly fragile and doesn't give users any control whatsoever over anything

the only way to prevent Google Music from stealing headphone controls is to disable it or kill it

Boris_yo

@allquixotic Hmm. Thanks. I just used Google Music for specific tracks that I would occasionally listen to while most of the time I would use Poweramp for different songs.

That cycling annoys me...

Dave

7:06 AM

Hi @JourneymanGeek, do you have some experience with power line adapters?

Journeyman Geek

Oddly enough yes

Dave

I thought so. I'm puzzled with an issue I have. Everything works fine. I change the router and no longer do the power adapters work upstairs... Wifi works up stairs, powerline adapters work down stairs... I don't see how the router can have anyh impact here...

Have you ever experienced anything like this?

Journeyman Geek

Hm. Not really. What flavor of home plug

?

Dave

Solwise I think. They have been stable for a few yearsl The only thing whcih has changed is the router

So yesterday, all works fine. Change router. Now I only have pwoerlines downstairs... :S

Journeyman Geek

hmm

200, 500?

Dave

7:10 AM

500

Journeyman Geek

also, not working how?

ah! There's a very nice tool for troubleshooting sub gigabit powerline stuff

Dave

Not working - doesn't connect. In one of the rooms we have a media player. Direct to power line adapter. Now it can't detect the LAN. Switch the media to wireless and it can detect the LAN. Back to wired and again, no detection of LAN. Also the router does not detect any of the upstairs devices...

Journeyman Geek

hm, amber or red connection blinkenlighten?

Dave

All green on the device connected to router. The downstairs one blinks amber but works. Let me go and check up stairs

Bob

@JourneymanGeek and a hammer!

Journeyman Geek

7:14 AM

@Bob in this case... maybe a bandsaw

Bob

@allquixotic my current one is a 3/5 mode. I keep it on the 3-mode group (low/med/high)

the 5-mode group is low/med/high/strobe/SOS

a lot of cheap lights only have the 5-mode

Dave

@JourneymanGeek, both pwerline adapters are the same. All 3 green lights, no blinking... It's such a strange issue.

Journeyman Geek

hm.

Means the powerline stuff's fine

curious

there's a unmaintained bit of software called powerline monitor which would be handy for signal troubleshooting...

Ramhound

speaking of powerline

Dave

I will try, thank you so much for talking with me about this..

Morning/afternoon Ramhound

Ramhound

7:19 AM

I am getting 70 MB/sec on a 100 MB/sec connection due to a brand new router :$

I was getting 30 MB/sec

then sub-100 KB/sec

(yeah not entirely sure what happen)

bufferbloat is gone too :$

granted I spent $400 on the bloody thing, but, yeah worth it

Just wish I could find the switch...

Dave

I have found powerline adapters to be very hard to debug, due to so many factors. I'm convinced that when 2 of our house hold appliances are on (like a microwave and washing machine) our speeds drop massively

Journeyman Geek

oh

that's actually correct

Basically anything with a large motor will mess up your powerline stuff unless you've got a better grade of it or the device is filtered somehow

I've been debating replacing my homeplug backbone with mesh wifi... kinda ironically

(or stringing up cable)

Dave

yes, I'd like to run cables but not sure if we're moving on or not though.... The decisions..

Journeyman Geek

yeah, homeplug is "nice" there

in my case I'd want to do it right and doing trunking is a pain

Bob

@allquixotic it's possible to an app (headset control apps do this) to steal the BT inputs and then forward it to a specific app IIRC

Journeyman Geek

7:31 AM

ethernet cabling I'm fine with at this point. Well, other than the parentals freaking at the 1000 foot box of the stuff

Dave

ha ha ha ha

Bob

@JourneymanGeek hacksaw works fine. but so does a hammer - just pretend it's a nail ;)

Journeyman Geek

heh

Ramhound

well that's stupid

Journeyman Geek

I actually prefer to end up with a usable product

Bob

7:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek hammer it back into shape!

Ramhound

ASUS is using a self-signed certifate for the https on the otouer

Dave

Sorry @JourneymanGeek, do yo uhave a link for the pwerline monitor tool? I can't find it :~(

Ramhound

except I can't "install" the certificate ebecause I cannot save it

Journeyman Geek

I was thinking cutting a slice, then using that to wrench it open

Bob

@Ramhound that's fine... they can't have unlimited lifetime on a CA cert

Ramhound

7:34 AM

well its a root

self-signed root

Journeyman Geek

forum.ethernetovercoax.eu/index.php?topic=126.0 this is the link I have

Ramhound

but I would like to install the cert so I don't get an error everytime

Journeyman Geek

... its broken :(

Bob

@Ramhound all self-signed certs are roots

Dave

Indeed. Never mind. I will keep looking :)

Ramhound

7:35 AM

Well

Bob

@Ramhound eh... would work fine in Firefox I think, since it does its own cert infrastructure (NSS)

Chrome and Edge rely on Windows' cert store

which might have funny requirements

Ramhound

Yeah, which is what I am trying to install to

anyways

Journeyman Geek

web.archive.org/web/20160401123457/http://… works @Dave

Ramhound

In my infrastructure I have a self-signed root which then creates other certificates

so not all self-signed certificates are root CAs

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oh boy discourse.tt-rss.org/t/collapsing-special-category-by-default/…

@Ramhound those other certificates are not self-signed if they're signed by a different certificate (the root)

Ramhound

7:37 AM

True

Bob

it might not be a well-known root cert, but the certificates it signs are not self-signed by definition

Ramhound

they are signed by the root CA which is self-signed :$

Bob

@Ramhound I think all roots are self-signed. some are also cross-signed for greater compatibility

Journeyman Geek

ow

Bob

but the signature of a root is meaningless anyway

@JourneymanGeek hm?

Ramhound

7:38 AM

yes, its just a matter of trust

Journeyman Geek

@Bob yeah. classic fox

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oh, the "oh boy" was more the response

"no need to be pissy" ohhhhhhhhhh boy

Journeyman Geek

ah

lol

Bob

*grabs popcorn*

Ramhound

just realize I was wirelessly connected lol

oops

Journeyman Geek

7:41 AM

oh

@Bob asked a question on my UEFI/USB annoyance

Dave

Thanks @JourneymanGeek, that didn't quite work due to path issues but I found the equivelant for Solwise... Fingers crossed!!

Journeyman Geek

@Dave that's vaguely universal. And much better than anything else

Dave

:D

Journeyman Geek

still dosen't feel like connection/connection quality issues so its not likely to be of that much help

Dave

Yes, the only thing I can think of is if the 2 adapters upstairs are some how not forgettingh previous settings or similar. I guess I could swap 2 adapters aroun d

Bob

7:46 AM

@JourneymanGeek I can't actually write an answer to that -_-

I mean. I can try to walk you through it. But it requires a wee bit of experimentation.

Ramhound

So talk about overkill: netgear.com/support/product/gs808e all I have connected to it is my pc and a vonage modem :$

although in the future I suppose it will come in handy (provided I get a pc with 2 nics)

alright this sucks

so apparently my intial tests were all wireless

I think my powerline adapters kicked the bucket

Journeyman Geek

ow

Ramhound

reason: I am getting 100 kb/sec again :$

it's either the adapters or the cables...

Journeyman Geek

you are not using those silly 4 wire cables, right? ;p

Ramhound

hmmm

no

Bob

7:55 AM

@JourneymanGeek soooo, do you have time to try out this method? :P

Ramhound

cat 6 I believe

but my connection took a hit again, even on wireless, this makes no sense

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hm, ought to, But I'm hoping there's something simpler

also, I'm looking at getting the brix working and just yanking the drive, assuming it does secureboot.

Its just kinda dumb that it does this ._.

Ramhound

alright, it was just cox's speedtest that's stupid

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well, this is the generic method :P

@JourneymanGeek or, wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob it isn't actually secureboot at fault here

Bob

7:59 AM

@JourneymanGeek ya, but that gets you a SB VM

Journeyman Geek

its just a relevant thing, since I need the shim on the ESP on the correct drive

Oh?

ohhhh

Dave

Fixed so I will share. I'm not sure if this true of all pwerline adapters but the instruction was `Click on the Privacy tab (via Option in PPU7 upgrade), and then press the
Use Default (Public Network) button.
This will set the HomePlug back to its original Private Network Name.`

So I've done this with the utility to resert the private network name and I've finally seen the devices on my LAN

@JourneymanGeek, if the above helps / is useful :)

Thank you agian for the help, it's nice to know it's finally resolved

Journeyman Geek

hm, that's strange...

@Bob going to use the brix to do this for now

since there's no other system drive, it should deal with the clobberyness

DavidPostill

8:36 AM

@Rahul2001 You might find lingojam.com/englishtoshakespearean useful then ;)

Rahul2001

8:51 AM

@DavidPostill Haha:

Love looks with the heart, not with the mind, and therefore, Cupid is blind.
The minutes hath spent with thou art the happiest timeth of mine own life, thee maketh me v'ry joyous
Shall thee beest mine own girlfriend?

I think this is overly cheesy :P

Journeyman Geek

erf

It boots on the brix and not my other machine

in1t3r

9:10 AM

shim is easy enough to setup thank to the Matthew Garret

djsmiley2k

@Dave I've not read the backlog

but did you try to set a different encryption key, and then add extra devices after?

djsmiley2k

9:34 AM

jackdanie.,ls

heh

cannot type today :(

Rahul2001

10:19 AM

Rahul2001

10:49 AM

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DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 ?_?

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill 🄾_🄾

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DavidPostill

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Rahul2001

12:58 PM

//merge $_GET and $_POST into $_DAT

$_DAT=array_merge($_GET,$_POST);

//do htmlspecialchars on every value of $_DAT
function _clean(&$value) {
  $value = htmlspecialchars($value);
}
array_walk_recursive($_DAT, '_clean');
print_r($_DAT);

Avery

that reminds me

Rahul2001

I'm going to be dealing with both POST and GET data and am using this block of code to merge them into a single array and then sanitize all keys with htmlspecialchars

Avery

I should move away from php

Rahul2001

Does anyone see any security issues with this?

@Avery Meh. It has its issues, but I like it

Oliver Salzburg

1:23 PM

@Rahul2001 So IIRC $_GET is the query part of the URL and $_POST is the body if the request carried one

I don't see any reason why you would want to merge those into a common set

Especially if you place importance on either section in other parts of your application

In $_DAT you have the potential to have a parameter, that was originally passed (and validated) as a query argument, to be overridden by an identically named argument from the request body

This can have security implications

Bob

@OliverSalzburg seems like a nice way to open yourself to certain attacks. Some actions should be POST-only

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg because this is for an API and data can be requested by both POST and GET

Bob

@Rahul2001 then that's a broken API

Rahul2001

@Bob meh, how so?

Oliver Salzburg

Additionally, I don't see why you would want to invoke htmlspecialchars on either section so generically

Bob

1:27 PM

with the whole idea of RESTful APIs, GET and POST (and PUT and ...) have special meanings

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg because the value is stored and then displayed

(in a browser)

Bob

GET specifically retrieves values without modifying anything

POST submits values

the distinction is actually significant

Oliver Salzburg

@Rahul2001 Then you do it when you display it, not when you store it

Bob

if a GET request can result in data being modified, that's unexpected behaviour and a giant pitfall trap

Rahul2001

Hm. Fair enough, okay

Bob

1:29 PM

in the other direction, accepting POST where you really mean GET is just weird and largely pointless

Rahul2001

@Bob it's really other way around, actually

Bob

@Rahul2001 accepting GET where you really mean POST is dangerous

Rahul2001

@Bob doesn't that depend on how the data is used?

Bob

@Rahul2001 if you really mean POST, then the data will be used to modify something

if GET modifies something, your API is broken

Rahul2001

@Bob huh. Why though?

What's wrong with a GET request modifying stuff?

djsmiley2k

1:31 PM

post requests don't acche

cache

sigh, can'tr type

Bob

@Rahul2001 because that's not what GET means

djsmiley2k

hense the 'you're trying to refresh/view a page which had post data on it, do you wish to resubmit the page?'

Rahul2001

@Bob lol okay

Okay, got it

Bob

(that said, a POST request can submit data through the querystring, even if that's atypical - the distinction is the verb used)

djsmiley2k

a get, will never return anything else other than the thing it returned the first time, hopefully.

Bob

1:32 PM

@djsmiley2k it could - if, say, the question list is updated...

djsmiley2k

*hopefully :P

Bob

@Rahul2001 more practically, it used to be the case where e.g. Google would delete parts of a website because some dumbass had a /delete endpoint that accepted GET requests

crawlers will blindly follow links with GET

(more recently, IIRC Google tries to be smart and will submit some POST forms, but IMO that's actually broken-ish behaviour)

djsmiley2k

amen

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob It's to provide reCaptcha with sample data of robots ;D

Bob

@Rahul2001 see also:

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Q: Why shouldn't a GET request change data on the server?

All over the internet, I see the following advice: A GET should never change data on the server- use a POST request for that What is the basis for this idea? If I make a php service which inserts data in the database, and pass it parameters in the GET query string, why is that wrong? (I ...

djsmiley2k

1:35 PM

heres a test

make a page with both

submit one, refresh the page

now submit the other, refresh the page

note the difference.

This obviously only shows you the user pov difference, but it kinda makes it obvious too

?get=giveBob$1 vs ?post=giveBob$1

One will refresh endlessly and give bob all my moneys

the other will ask you to reauthenicate

Bob

@Rahul2001 the verb used makes a difference in the action taken, too. e.g. on an API, GET on /files might return a list of files, while POST on /files might add a new file

now, I'm talking HTTP verbs

there's a good chance PHP does something stupid and creates $_GET out of querystring params on a POST request

idk PHP

yup, of course it does

lolphp

compare ASP.NET, which exposes QueryString and Form. compare Express (Node.js), which exposes query and body.

PHP's misnamed it. so, yea, you should be checking the HTTP method used via $_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'], but treat $_GET as query string (valid on POST) and $_POST as a form-encoded body, and ignore the stupid names PHP gives the vars because they don't have to match the actual HTTP method used

Rahul2001

2:17 PM

@Bob whoop so much

Bob

@Rahul2001 hm?

Rahul2001

@Bob nup, nothing, thanks...

Bob

o.O

djsmiley2k

2:52 PM

that moment when you've whisked the cheese cake mixture by hand so much, that it's now too thick to actually whisk anymore, and you need to mix in the lemon :O

Boris_yo

3:03 PM

I have occasionally new tab opening in Chrome and there are all kinds of ads.

Computer has Avast antivirus installed.

What's the best way to get rid of ads.

Avast says it's protecting but does not do job well.

djsmiley2k

if it's windows, use mse

but now youre infected.... malwarebytes is normally pretty good

Avery

3:49 PM

I'd just nuke the whole drive

djsmiley2k

well yeah

Boris_yo

Nuke? No thanks. I don't want to reinstall Windows.

djsmiley2k

erm

some times its the only way

u have backups, right@?

Crushing 1500 sheets of Paper with Hydraulic Press

►

Avery

installing windows is simple

good luck reinstalling arch though

Rahul2001

4:04 PM

Uh... pirates are using prezi to distribute keygens? prezi.com/3_um7cvpuqwq/…

Avery

you should probably not link that

Rahul2001

OK WOT: lcamtuf.coredump.cx/switch

@Avery uhm

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k The computer in question is not mine. The owner does not practice backups.

Avery

4:21 PM

today in ludicrous css:

(I'm going to make the bottom layer 100%)

djsmiley2k

i don't get it?>

is that eaiser to use?

I've often asked about changing stuff to make youtube suit me better, but my god it seems like incredibly hard work

Avery

I can see much more messages, and no space is wasted

djsmiley2k

which is just lame, considering the idea was that the web should provide information, and the user should be able to choose how it's formatted.

@Avery erm, where?

Avery

hm?

djsmiley2k

where is the extra space?

Avery

4:32 PM

give me a minute.

djsmiley2k

I mean, I already use porkchat, so maybe that's why I don't see the difference

hmmm

you've still got the border in front of the usernames on the left for example. I'd nuke that

and the huge border between messages and the starlist, nuke that too

a 1px border works

Avery

the left side is fitting to the longest username

djsmiley2k

I still wanna make something that turns all browser images into just hyperlinks, with a popup preview

Avery

though I'll see if I can just trim names

djsmiley2k

I wonder how much of a username we really read...

3 chara maybe

I have this problem on IRC, my brain stops reading after a few

Avery

4:36 PM

pictures usually say more than names

though they're kinda important for pinging

djsmiley2k

yah

Avery

5:15 PM

this is pretty much all I can do to make it compact

Avery

5:27 PM

Modified a bit to allow stars

rahuldottech

5:39 PM

'lo

Ben N

Hi!

rahuldottech

I'm trying to sort out my main and sock accounts with new naming

DavidPostill

Hahahahahah roflmao

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill huh?

DavidPostill

@rahuldottech People admitting to having socks is funny. I didn't realise it was you at first :)

rahuldottech

5:42 PM

@DavidPostill lol, see profile

Most people here know (I think?)

DavidPostill

@rahuldottech Of course I did. But you changed your name and it confused my brain.

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill ah lol okay

PSA: @Rahul2001 is now @rahuldottech, and will be using @2rahuldottech while in school

Avery

make it have a better name, imo

something like rahulatschool etc

rahuldottech

@Avery any ideas?

Ah

Avery

would fit with the "rahuldottech"

rahuldottech

5:50 PM

Well.

Okay, done

PSA: @Rahul2001 is now @rahuldottech, and will be using @rahulatschool while in school

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djsmiley2k

6:19 PM

@Avery that is better, tbh

I don't understand why it matters...

unl;ess your school comp[uterrs aren't safe

in which case....

zed

Hey guys. I accidentally removed grub from my ubuntu packages. I do not have a CD or a USB at hand, but I do have a partition in my SSD that I can write the ISO onto. How can I make that partition bootable?

The partition is FAT

djsmiley2k

o_O

to make something bootable, use fdisk?

zed

I have my mac OS running on it still..

So I used dd to copy the ISO onto the partition, but it doesn't show on the boot menu

djsmiley2k

you need to add it

zed

How so/

?

EFI?

djsmiley2k

6:24 PM

Dunno

zed

hah, that's the question!

djsmiley2k

I have no idea how you 'boot' a iso D:

if only.... there was

3

Q: Boot ISO from HDD from UEFI?

I have a Windows 8 To Go Entreprise HDD, which boots both on BIOS and UEFI systems (I'm wondering how that's done, because I need that too). Now, I see the HDD I use for that windows is an MBR HDD, it consist of a 350 MB FAT32 partition which holds the booting file to boot the second, NTFS parti...

boot usb iso-image uefi efi

zed

I'm going for this one: rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi

Avery

6:39 PM

mark the thing bootable

zed

7:11 PM

Doesn't quite do it

AnArrayOfFunctions

7:28 PM

Well in EFI you can go to the EFI Shell from the bios

Anyhows does any of you guys know anything about OS X

AnArrayOfFunctions

7:44 PM

0

Q: OS X Snow Leopard doesn't seem to have a way for me to change the input sources

From the tutorial from here - System Prefs -> Language & Text, and select the “Input Sources” tab but I don't seem to have the "Input Sources" tab - any ideas why?

macos keyboard snow-leopard

DavidPostill

@AnArrayOfFunctions Why are you dumping your questions here?

AnArrayOfFunctions

Well I figured you could help

Avery

@AnArrayOfFunctions use the search bar on system preferences?

AnArrayOfFunctions

But anyway I seem to have mistaken the menu :D

I've solved the problem

DavidPostill

@AnArrayOfFunctions Please don't do that. It is like spamming.

Avery

7:54 PM

> Meet Lena. She will guide us through this document, because the seriousness of a scientific document in the area of computer graphics can be measured by the number of times Lena appears in it. She truly is the Mona Lisa of image processing.

this is golden

DavidPostill

You should at least wait until people have had time to read your question on apple.stackexchange.com. You didn't even ask it on SU.

rahuldottech

8:09 PM

Dad emailed :/

:'[

DavidPostill

:(

@rahuldottech hugs

Burgi

8:32 PM

@rahuldottech mark him as spam

DavidPostill

@Burgi Hmm. That's a bit of a cruel response ...

Avery

I have my dad marked as spam

he calls me so often and has nothing good to say

AnArrayOfFunctions

Any ideas what is the keyboard layout that replace the backtick tilde `~ with backslash vertical bar \|

DavidPostill

8:56 PM

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Q: Italian keyboard: entering the tilde (~) and backtick (`) characters without changing keyboard layout

Here is what the layout of an Italian keyboard looks like: As you can see, the curly braces, which are absolutely necessary to write code in any of C, C++, JavaScript, Java, Objective C, and others, appear in purple in this picture. This is because while the other characters can be seen visual...

keyboard special-characters characters

@AnArrayOfFunctions Next time make use of Google and search for "keyboard layout with backslash instead of tilde". The above answer is the first result.

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