Root Access

bwDraco

01:19

reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6nd6iq/…

Michael Frank

01:31

@NotAdminDave store.steampowered.com/app/652980/Loading_Screen_Si

Rahul2001

02:45

@ThatREDACTEDGuy :)

Journeyman Geek

03:40

PSA: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/292011/… comment flags have been massively simplified...

Rahul2001

05:02

Hello!

@JourneymanGeek cool!

Journeyman Geek

05:18

Testing a projector at work :p

bwDraco

I still can't wait to build that new PC.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco u lucky boi

I won't get a new PC till I start earning myself

That's... Like 6 years

Avery

> something you know, something you have

stares at her pgp smartkey, whispers 'is this you'

Well actually pgp smartkeys don't qualify for nist's mf crypto device because no nonce etc

U2F only qualifies SF

Can still get aal3 with u2f and password though

Rahul2001

06:12

My digispark rubber ducky isn't working on all Windows 10 machines with USB 3 properly

OH AND GUESS WHAT

I HAVE A DESKTOP SERVER NOW

OH AND GUESS WHAT

Journeyman Geek

'desktop server' ._.

So a desktop used as a server? ;p

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek yes. Had laptop previously

Journeyman Geek

ah, that's cool

what spec?

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek 3rd/4th gen i7 (I'm not sure), 4gigs of ram

Should be good enough?

Journeyman Geek

rofl

that's pretty much as good as my daily driver.

Rahul2001

06:18

@JourneymanGeek ...

Ah

Journeyman Geek

I have more ram of course

Yeah, It will ~~cut~~ ~~kill~~ do quite nicely

Rahul2001

There's a minor problem though

It doesn't have a WiFi card

Journeyman Geek

That is half the fun

Rahul2001

Will have to use this old usb thing for now

Journeyman Geek

ehhhh.

that's probably PRETTY minor a problem

My PC before the current one was from a dumpster ;p

Rahul2001

06:20

@JourneymanGeek but the usb thing doesn't perform spectacularly... Average speeds

Journeyman Geek

ehh. wifi sucks

Rahul2001

Average for India, that is

@JourneymanGeek I'll see about getting Ethernet to the room

Rahul2001

07:18

Someone help me out here

This extension cord only has two wires

When I attach a plug to it, I leave the terminal for ground empty?

Cc @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

ehh, yeah

Just make sure you have live and neutral correct.

well on a 2 pin, dosen't quite matter I suppose

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek huh. isn't ground important if I'm going to be running PCs off of it?

Bob

@Rahul2001 ... ... ... typically I would say "if you have to ask, you PROBABLY shouldn't be doing this"

Rahul2001

@Bob I've fixed plugs before

But I was caught off guard here.

Bob

I'm ... hoping you clamp it properly

Journeyman Geek

07:24

The earth is there in case there's a leakage

Bob

also attaching a 2-wire to a 3-prong plug is a bad idea, generally

Journeyman Geek

so if there's a ton of current getting pumped through there it blows the fuse

Bob

@JourneymanGeek actually any appliance that expects an earthed connection is generally not double-insulated, so... without the earth, incorrect contact = live case = poof goes the human

it's a pretty important "in case"

Journeyman Geek

lol. I've gotten shocked before. What dosen't kill you hurts like a redacted

and earth cables are also there for fire safety

Bob

you see plugs without earth because those go to double-insulated appliances

Journeyman Geek

07:25

also @Rahul2001 that plug looks bloody dodgy

Bob

@JourneymanGeek naw, fire safety is handled by the neutral and the fuse

strictly speaking, earth is not so important if you have an RCD on that circuit

but... india

I'm not convinced RCDs are a thing there

Rahul2001

The extension cord allows three pin plugs, but itself doesn't have ground!

Bob

@Rahul2001 that is what we like to call illegal

unless you have an RCD/GFCI on that circuit (or socket) - IIRC that's an acceptable exception

(it replaces the earthed case with low-current fast-trigger detection of leakage)

there's a name for those plugs btw!

Cheater plug

A cheater plug, AC ground lifter or three-prong/two-prong adapter is an adapter that allows a NEMA 5-15P grounding-type plug (three prongs) to connect to a NEMA 1-15R non-grounding receptacle (two slots). They are needed to allow appliances with 3-wire power cords to plug into legacy ungrounded (two slot) receptacles found in older buildings. The use of such an adapter avoids the need to replace receptacles, but is potentially hazardous if the grounding tab is not connected to electrical ground. A safer and more reliable alternative identified in the US and Canadian electrical codes is to replace...

actually, that makes me wonder

@Rahul2001 do you use MCBs or old-timey fuses?

Journeyman Geek

From experience - India uses a mix of pre war british plugs and europlugs in theory

and mostly oldschool fuses

Rahul2001

@Bob MCB

Journeyman Geek

07:31

@Rahul2001 seeing what I've seen, ehh, this seems dodgy as hell

Bob

@Rahul2001 hm, not bad. do you have an RCD anywhere?

they're usually either a single shared one, or each MCB can be combined with an RCD (so each circuit has their own)

Journeyman Geek

I don't like anything I see.

Rahul2001

@Bob this?

Bob

@Rahul2001 An RCD looks like a MCB with a test button on it (usually). do you have a photo of the fusebox/panel?

Journeyman Geek

Wires seem rather thin (granted I'm used to UK style overengineered wiring), colour codes look unusual,

Rahul2001

07:33

@Bob uploading ...

@Bob ^

@JourneymanGeek WTF IS THIS!?

No ground, wires a tenth of a millimeter thin!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Rahul2001

No insulation!

Journeyman Geek

Seeing what I've seen this ~~seems~~ is dodgy as hell... ;p

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek dammit, I don't think I have funds for a decent extension chord... This was lying around

Bob

@Rahul2001 looks like MCBs with no RCD

I'd not connect an earthed device to a 2-wire on those circuits, personally

Rahul2001

07:38

@Bob yeah.

@Bob Hm, okay

Let's see if I can get a decent extension chord

Bob

@Rahul2001 looks like typical chinaboard :P

I like the (pricey) Xiaomi boards

nice thick copper bars

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@Rahul2001 tbh I'm looking at this from a safety-first Australian perspective

perhaps it's normal for India, idk

Journeyman Geek

And we use british style wiring here

British Plugs Are Better Than All Other Plugs, And Here's Why

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Rahul2001

@Bob Well, I want safety too! ;P

Journeyman Geek

07:41

(also, I've gotten an actual shock and BOY did it hurt)

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek ow

@JourneymanGeek seen that

slhck

08:07

@bwDraco Thanks for filling it out! Just curious: why did you assume I support net neutrality? (I do, I'm just not aware of where I excplicitly stated that.)

Rahul2001

08:26

@slhck You didn't, the questions just seemed to kinda pertain to that topic

slhck

@Rahul2001 Ah. Well, yeah, the research kind of sits in between ISPs and video providers. As an ISP, you want to be able to manage traffic in a way that makes all users equally happy – especially on mobile networks –, and as a video provider, you don't want the ISP to know what your users are consuming, or interfere with your own video streaming algorithms.

ISPs like “we can be much more than dumb pipes”

Bob

08:45

@JourneymanGeek I did that twice. Once while plugging something in, once while playing with a disposable camera flash capacitor

the cap hurt worse

DavidPostill

09:00

@JourneymanGeek @Bob @Rahul2001 If you think there is a possibility you might be shocked then make sure it is the back of your hand that will be shocked and not the palm side. An electric shock makes your muscles contract so if the shock is to the palm side you can't let go. If the shock is to the back of your hand the reflex is to make you hand jump away from the shock. :)

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill haha

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Of course it is better to test for a current first :)

Journeyman Geek

I'd rather a test pe.

I'd rather a test pen

DavidPostill

See how this guy is using the back of his hand?

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill ah yeah

DavidPostill

09:05

And continuing the theme with some music:

Van der Graaf Generator "Killer"

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Rahul2001

@DavidPostill oooooh

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'd rather a proper contact multimeter. Test pens are notoriously unreliable.

@DavidPostill Yea, I don't usually go testing bare wires with my hands :P

Rahul2001

09:33

Oh hello, you're alive

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Rahul2001

11:04

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

Friend just made this:

I'm laughing my ass off

Yes, that's my shirtless pic -_-

Okay, not really for this site

Bob

o.O

Rahul2001

11:24

Should I cool it or should I blow? 🎶🎶🎶

Journeyman Geek

Um yeah

djsmiley2k

/me wibbles

i don't know whats occuring

Journeyman Geek

No shirtless pics unless you're a dog

djsmiley2k

getting ready for 1 yr old bday tomorrow

Journeyman Geek

especially if you're a minor.

or female

or human

Rahul2001

11:33

@JourneymanGeek haha k

djsmiley2k

:(

Rahul2001

wtf

@JourneymanGeek but... abs!

djsmiley2k

:D

DavidPostill

:38793847 Oh dear. Now I've seen it I can't forget it. I've deleted it for you :/

Rahul2001

Okay, got a decent power strip

DavidPostill

11:44

@Rahul2001 We've had enough stripping in here for one day thank you ;)

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill ;D

sorryu

DavidPostill

12 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

No shirtless pics unless you're a dog

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill lol

DavidPostill

Journeyman Geek

12:14

@DavidPostill .... pretty sure that pun is worse than anything I've seen here ;p

DavidPostill

12:28

:)

@JourneymanGeek Are you going to punish me for my bad punchlines? ;)

Journeyman Geek

wonders if one can find a rolled up newspaper the size of a large skyscraper.

DavidPostill

hahahahaha

Rahul2001

12:48

@JourneymanGeek networking help!

If I use a 22 meter long Ethernet cable with a regular router for internet and stuff, is it likely to work okay?

djsmiley2k

... yes

ethernet cat5 is good upto 100m iirc

Bob

13:24

@Rahul2001 depends. what's the cable rated to, and is it actually properly constructed/rated?

@djsmiley2k I've found that assuming cat5(e) is... not reliable

Rahul2001

@Bob cat5e

Bob

> is it actually properly constructed/rated

Rahul2001

Will go get the jacks put from a shop right now

Bob

I've seen far too many "cat5e" cables that don't live up to their rating

including one that only had two pairs in it...

Rahul2001

Expensive and we'll made cable, I know that

Bob

13:27

basically, try and find out

Rahul2001

@Bob Schneider Electric

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Make sure the jacks are put on correctly and the cable is tested afterwards.

Journeyman Geek

if you're putting on jacks, you've already added one possible place for people to mess up

(I make cables at work. they... are a bit of an art to do right.)

DavidPostill

13:43

@JourneymanGeek Exactly.

@Rahul2001 You need to make sure you have the right tools

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill dosen't necessarily need to be a keystone jack

You can just plug either end. Still need tools tho

scp-wiki.net/scp-3709

(not a creepy one ;p)

DavidPostill

firefold.com/tools/hand-tools/punch-down-tools

Bob

@JourneymanGeek they were ... pretty easy :P

Journeyman Geek

Opposable thumbs, hands ext...

try doing it with paws...

DavidPostill

Complete instructions with nice pictures

Journeyman Geek

13:53

We have a bunch of these at work

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill will do :)

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Does that tool do the punchdowns as well as stripping the cable? ;)

Journeyman Geek

....

I'd kick you if I could. I would.

Avery

that's not the dog way to do it

Rahul2001

Lol

DavidPostill

13:57

@JourneymanGeek It was actually a (heavily disguised) serious question.

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek used those in the past. Don't have one though

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill but yeah, it strips down the cable cuts it and punches down ethernet plugs...

DavidPostill

14:19

FuzzyBoots

14:53

Heh. Speaking of Backups... I have a Seagate Backup Plus 5 TB harddrive to back up my 2 TB harddrive. I figured it would be more than enough, but I'm getting messages saying I'm at 90% capacity. I suspect that what might be happening is that Windows and Seagate are both backing up data. Should I turn off the Windows backup and just let Seagate handle it?

DavidPostill

@FuzzyBoots Vote to Close as "Opinion Based". You need to provide more information and probably ask a question on the main site (Super User)

FuzzyBoots

Ah. I figured it would be a fairly simple question and, as Opinion Based, was more suited to chat.

BAYMAX

I am getting black patches when i open some new tabs or some times automatically in my Chrome browser?

any solution to this ?

will be very much helpful!

Rahul2001

15:26

@BAYMAX old machine?

Try a more lightweight browser.

That happens when machine is low on resources

djsmiley2k

15:40

@JourneymanGeek I have one in my shed for some odd reason

I've only ever made liek 5 cables

and it wasn't used then :D

Bob

@DavidPostill it's a crimper

Rahul2001

16:46

Guys!

Live joint screening of The Iron Giant in an hour or so here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/58631/…

Avery

17:06

not a fan of scifi.se, but thanks.

Rahul2001

17:37

Guys!

Doing some investigation into a scammer here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/38797087#38797087

Read transcript, feel free to drop in

(cc @ave)

djsmiley2k

19:39

wow

put my case back on pmy pcx

Rahul2001

20:39

@bob @all now that I have server set up, I can run the chatbot if you wish... I'll enjoy doing so :)

Non-headless or headless whichever

That REDACTED Guy

@Rahul2001 Reading now, live investigations like these are really cool

satibel

@NotDog the sorcery is made with unicode/chat formatting abuse.

Good night people.

Rahul2001

@ThatREDACTEDGuy the guy ended up not giving me the actual URL

That REDACTED Guy

He gave it to @Avery

Rahul2001

@ThatREDACTEDGuy ah cool

Avery

20:49

I have it~

Rahul2001

I should go to sleep, have class in a few hours, but my sister isn't letting me

Wonderful life, this

That REDACTED Guy

@Rahul2001 You don't have your own room?

Rahul2001

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I don't, no. Ever since parents got separated we've been living in a small construction of just two rooms

And am at grandparents' house tonight anyway

That REDACTED Guy

@Rahul2001 Been there. For 20+ years. It sucked. (not having my space or privacy, or a room)

@Rahul2001 Wait, you have classes ON SUNDAYS?!

Rahul2001

@ThatREDACTEDGuy chem coaching in the morning for a couple of hours

Sis wants me to sleep outside without air conditioning

37°C

Fun.

That REDACTED Guy

20:53

@Rahul2001 37 at night? Oh, how lovely.

Rahul2001

@Avery cool. Let me know if you find something interesting

allquixotic

github.com/dotnet/corert/issues/4168

Rahul2001

21:11

@ThatREDACTEDGuy how'd you manage?

I need sleep, man

And she won't let me get any

allquixotic

@Rahul2001 TWSS

Rahul2001

@allquixotic -_-

That REDACTED Guy

22:09

@Rahul2001 Manage what? Not having a room when I was younger, or sleeping on a hot weather without A/C?

The former, poorly. The latter, never even tried in a long time. I think the warmer I've seen in recent years at night was 35 ~ 37 C and it's either air con the entire night, or two fans and lots of baths.

bwDraco

22:54

weee. Father's desktop is getting the Windows 10 Creators Update.

William

23:43

Do you guys know any deals like the $1 annual recurring dollar deal for .xyz number domains

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