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12:31 AM

> Two bits walk into a bar and join their 6 friends for a Byte.

3

(from the Intel 404 page, software.intel.com/sites/default/files/319433-015.pdf)

hmmm

could of made a joke about them only getting a nibble

So VSCode is fun.

It launches, then sits there not responding.

It's probably trying to access the internet or something.

That Brazilian Guy

s/a bar/the RAM/

\o/

@ThatBrazilianGuy 4 of their friends went home, the rest stuck around for a nibble?

That Brazilian Guy

QBasic Nibbles (1990) [PC] [MS DOS]

FFS where does that memory came from

It was a QBASIC program lost amongst the DOS 5 or 6 files

That a GORILLAS.BAS

QBASIC Gorillas

I literally hadn't thought about it in decades

12:39 AM

:)

hmmmmmmmm

batch file to make zip from a directory...

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A: Batch file script to zip files

No external dependency on 7zip or ZIP - create a vbs script and execute: @ECHO Zipping mkdir %TEMPDIR% xcopy /y /s %FILETOZIP% %TEMPDIR% echo Set objArgs = WScript.Arguments > _zipIt.vbs echo InputFolder = objArgs(0) >> _zipIt.vbs echo ZipFile = objArgs(1) >> _zipIt.vbs ...

How does this get the directory name to zip?

@MichaelFrank How many cores on the system?

Known Electron bug is it stalls for a few minutes (!!!) if run on a single-core machine. Probably an almost-livelock somewhere.

That Brazilian Guy

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lol

@Bob 2C/4T

@MichaelFrank Oh. Weird.

12:43 AM

Yea, I have a feeling it's trying navigate the proxy and just straight up fails.

@ThatBrazilianGuy lol

rubber ducky is working well for me today

@Bob So I figured out that it locks up the moment I hit Ctrl+P

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lol

rubber ducky is working hard today ;)

@MichaelFrank That does file searching.

Filename searching.

@Bob Yea, it's comes right after a minute.

Probably just this shitty work laptop struggling under load.

12:59 AM

Hmm

or it's searching an etwork drive or something that is no longer connected, by default

why does ctrl p not print, you know, like the convention?

Who prints code?

@MichaelFrank If it's a huge folder (tree) and a HDD that could be it.

@Bob I literally haven't loaded a file into Code yet.

Though usually it doesn't search the tree until ... you actually start typing :P

@MichaelFrank o.O

That ... is weird.

Report a bug on github?

They'll at least help you diagnose

OMG. 5 minutes after I clicked New File it's now opened a new file.

3 times.

1:03 AM

@JourneymanGeek dog goes quack? :P

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@Bob woof woof ~~whine~~ quack?

Yo, can anyone help me with my home network?

I want to connect my printer network to my home router one

Maybe? I'm feeling kinda bored right now, so if it's not interrupting other conversations...

Any idea?

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We can probably rubber duck it? ;p

1:05 AM

@MathCubes Describe your current network setup first...

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@MathCubes you need to start my describing your network

Every "router" involved, how they're currently connected together (which ports), which IP addresses are used...

I mean, the simple answer is "plug them together. with a cable." but you kinda need to give us more info for any more detailed response.

My printer is a HP, in oder to print you need to be connected to its wifi. The problem is to order to do that you need to disconnect from my router network and therefore lose access to a internet connection

My router is a TP link

I was woundering how can I connect its network to my router

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could you connect the printer to a network directly?

chances are you'd need to log into the printer to do the settings

No, in a different room

Yea I look but isn't helping

You want to take a look though like teamviewer?

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1:08 AM

"isn't helping" how?

@MathCubes Printer model?

Looks like your printer hosts its own AP (infrastructure mode).

You'll want to see if it's possible to get it to connect to an existing network (client mode)

HP LaserJet Pro M201dw NPI14885F 192.168.223.1

Router: TP-LINK Archer C9

@MathCubes Not planning to, also please delete that message :P

Ok

Ah yes LaserJets

1. get the HP client

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1:12 AM

even if someone connected, if they connected to the printer, they'd disconnect, no?

Got it

2. disconnect the laptop (or other wifi containing hardware) from the network it maybe on

@djsmiley2k Surely you mean LaserJest.

I am connect though Ethernet and wifi to my printer

3. run it, it should 'scan' the wifi

4. once it's connected, you can configure the printer, and tell it to connect to your own wifi

1:13 AM

After I disconnect it from its WiFi, It looses it connection to it

(I know this as I end up doing it like weekly, for one of our clients.)

Did

@MathCubes So, you won't see the Networking tab on the web UI if you're directly connected to it (wifi direct) apparently. See h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04323325, page 38

But it doesn't print

@MathCubes ew, something not right there...

1:13 AM

> If you are already using the product and you wish to change the way it is connected, use the
Reconfigure
your
HP Device
shortcut on your computer desktop to change the connection. For example, you can
reconfigure
the product to use a
different
wireless address, to connect to a wired or wireless network, or change from a
network connection to a USB connection.

to connect to a wired or wireless network,

Yes. Use the "Reconfigure your HP Device" tool.

yasssss

Thanks, it works

1:30 AM

Hahahahahaha

Ooooh man. The company that looks after our networks is 'HOTCUTTING' our internet connection. They originally scheduled it for Tuesday at 8am local time, but I don't work on that day so I can't be on site to verify the work.

They come back saying "Okay we can reschedule for next Tuesday at 9am"

..

someone doesn't understand 'i don't work tuesdays'

Yea, right???

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@MathCubes prolly worth putting it as a question at this point so people can answer + the next guy with the same problem can find it ;)

lol

soooooooo

now the hard/weird bit

You probably know these guys... Orange Business Solutions.

1:35 AM

remove the oldest file if there's more than 2

Oh yeah

too big to do anything right

@djsmiley2k what are you doing and why aren't you using PowerShell

writing a batch script

and because powershell is hard, and I might not have access to it anyway

"powershell is hard", says the guy who's doing funky batch script manpulations

PowerShell would definitely make your life easier here

It's on every modern Windows system, and if there's an execution policy in play, just launch powershell.exe from a batch file and supply -executionpolicy bypass

@BenN lol, I've played that game before... execution policies are the dumbest things

But then corporate wants them because "security" (theatre)

1:41 AM

They really are

hmmm my package has been "in transit" for almost two weeks and hasn't reached the "leaving origin" point.

Even if powershell.exe is blocked from starting, just write a quick .NET program that loads System.Management.Automation.dll and poof, PowerShell

@BenN "Oh, I downloaded the scripts from the internet but I can't run it because it's remote? copy/paste/save I wrote this."

lol

2:40 AM

!!tumbleweeds

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2:53 AM

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Viciously sweet!!

3:46 AM

ok that was weird

clicked onto my open su tab

in newest questions it shows '1 question'

i click

that's the only question on the whole site

D:

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Yeah, we answered everything. We can pack up and go once that's answered.

(Prolly just a glitch)

4:45 AM

:)

yeah, was really odd looking ;)

ya know how sometimes you're in a shop after closing time

you walk up and there's just the one cashier, waiting..

5:00 AM

floof

5:14 AM

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Q: Looking for a messaging service with api that lets me fan out messages to multiple users at once

I want to offer a service to users so that I can disseminate messages which will be "fanned out" (sent to multiple users at the same time. Ideally the features would include: offers an api to integrate in my development environment offers a web application to use within a browser offers mobile...

android web-apps api chat message-broker

Is it me, or are they asking for the bcc option in email? XD

Hey quick question

What's a light weight Linux distro I can throw on to a VM just to practice some command line and shell scripting? I would prefer a minimal GUI desktop

I've tried Tiny Core Linux but it freezes up in VMware and I want something easy to get running

ubuntu server?

debian

take your pick really

centos,

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@northerner I think someone was playing with alipine.

5:32 AM

@JourneymanGeek hi :P

Yea, alpine is really lightweight, but it's not your standard GNU/Linux.

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@northerner how light is light tho?

It's built around Busybox and musl

(instead of GNU coreutils and glibc)

@JourneymanGeek Yea that's a good point. If you want a light GUI, grab Lubuntu. LXDE is light and pretty good.

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yup

@JourneymanGeek not super light, 10GB space

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really?

5:35 AM

@northerner You ... need more specs than that. Disk space is easy: almost all Linux distros will fit under 1 GB, plus whatever you install on top of it.

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Yup

But you need to consider: CPU, RAM, graphics performance

Primary spec: easy to learn on

(graphics really falls under how 'modern' your machine is; any GPU including the integrated one within the last 5 years would be fine)

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lubuntu fits. I'm running it on decade old machines ;p

5:37 AM

@northerner Let me be clearer. What's your CPU model? How much RAM do you have? What else will you run on the machine at the same time as the VM?

8GB, Core i5-2500, web browsing, email

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@northerner full install of lubuntu 32 bit is 3.4gb

Ok, with VT-x, you can assign 2-4 cores to the VM (shared), no problem.

RAM, I'd say give it 2 GB min for some breathing room. Lubuntu itself would be happy with that. Kubuntu would also work pretty well. (more practically, I'd say 512 MB min for LXDE and 1 GB min for KDE).

If you run more things, give it 4 GB RAM.

That leaves the rest for your host and web browser.

ok thnx

@northerner Put it this way. With your specs you can run pretty much any Linux distro you want in a VM.

@JourneymanGeek eh... no such thing as a "full install", and 3.4 is far more than what you actually need.

"full install" just pulls in a bunch of default packages you'll probably never use.

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5:43 AM

@Bob default? the amount my actual install is? ;p

I did suggest building off of minimal ;p

Heck, if you really wanted to reduce HDD space usage, you could compile a slimmer kernel (discarding 99% of the drivers because they're specific to hardware you'll never see in a VM)

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oooh

dosen't ubuntu have a specific spin for that?

@JourneymanGeek ubuntu-cloud, maybe?

> MAAS is Metal as a Service

wat

Canonical pls

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lol

cloud-images.ubuntu.com

but yea I think a practical light desktop install is like 100 MB kernel, 300 MB supporting, leaving 600 MB for the DE

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5:49 AM

tho, probably no gui on them

wouldn't be too hard to install, say, openbox

or twm + a terminal

@JourneymanGeek eh, imma try it

gimme a min to get the server up :P

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lol

1 hour later…

7:03 AM

@JourneymanGeek try.vulpin.com/gotty/248/0v1pjsgo

base image, 300 MB

well, 330 MB

add 410 for the kernel (:O)

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0_0

hmm

no lxde package

oh there it is

O_O

1.1 GB of dependencies

that's... not minimal

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Might as well go for openbox or twm

unity-control-center

yea uh

I'm sure I can get a slimmer LXDE install up

-_-

the lxde package is full of bs

@JourneymanGeek 258 MB

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7:08 AM

TWM is too different

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twm is literally "how little can we throw atop X and still call it a window manager"

@JourneymanGeek LXDE shouldn't be this big

I'm pretty sure half those dependencies aren't needed

@JourneymanGeek lxde-core is a bit lighter :P

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github.com/neurite/debian-setup/wiki/Minimal-LXDE ? ;p

(debian but close enough)

> www.google.com.au’s server DNS address could not be found.

O_O

@JourneymanGeek "minimal" => already pulls in lxde-core

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@Bob hm. that is a meta package ain't it.

7:17 AM

@JourneymanGeek da

I'm installing lubuntu-core for the hell of it now

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(I shoulda made that joke earlier but...)

@Bob funny thing is I'm probably more comfortable with a shell these days...

other than the pesky need for X for the RSS downloaded on qbitorrent (and nothing else works as well)

welp

errors!

...

sigh

@JourneymanGeek it's only 323 MB with --no-install-recommends

for lubuntu-core

damn recommends

compare 810 with

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this sounds eerily like one of the watchdogs 2 plotlines arstechnica.com/business/2017/05/…

1 hour later…

8:49 AM

morning

@JourneymanGeek is that you on your recent military thing?

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Naw, it's old

I did mopp4 training when I was conscripted

9:41 AM

my girlfriend has wrapped herself up in the duvet like a burrito

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pretty much

@JourneymanGeek qbittorrent-nox ? Web interface; no X needed :D

i thought she might have woken up naturally by now but i was wrong

i might have to start cooking breakfast to wake her up

(or equally, run xpra and connect to the X server (remotely, over ssh, etc) when needed)

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9:49 AM

@bertieb no rss feed support.

not gotten xpra working yet

@JourneymanGeek Oh, really? I thought it just changed the frontend; could swear I've seen RSS feed stuff in -nox...

WinSwitch have repos for xpra, if package management is your sorta thing

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@bertieb if you can find it, let me know

Ah hmm, no RSS as you say

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ya, I have it installed on fedora

I just switch inputs on the monitor to add stuff

Just the watched folder stuff

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9:52 AM

it works automagically otherwise

Fair enough!

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yup

I must just be going senile

They say the first thing to go is memory, and after that the next thing to go is memory

10:03 AM

@JourneymanGeek RSS support in webUI has been a requested feature for a number of years now:

github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/453

(oh, no github oneboxing)

Someone started work on it but gave up

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@bertieb yup

I actually only really need a way to add stuff

but of course, the RSS feed list isn't a plain text file ._.

There must be something that grabs the relevant info from RSS

(well, apart from qbittorrent :P)

Someone in the GH issue mentions flexget

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@bertieb also I have a bunch of rules for downloads

Seems a bit overkill though

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granted, the really complex ones are no longer useful (they basically filtered a common keyword search down to something very specific)

@bertieb oh, I also have it send a notification to my desktop (over gntpsend/growl for windows) + a IM over matrix/riot to my phone

10:10 AM

@JourneymanGeek Aye, I can appreciate the value in having a configuration that works as intended and needs minimal intervention!

That said, flexget does seem to have a plugin for qbitorrent integration; but that might just be non-nox version and back to square one :P (can't tell)

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its non nox

but but

I can already add individual torrents on the webui

Yeah...

the system requirements for steamOS are steeper than i thought they would be

@Burgi One skynet / two skynets?

4!

10:19 AM

Heh :P

i'm just going to go with ubuntu

@JourneymanGeek Just for completeness, someone in this issue is using the -nox version; but I suspect a working configuration is worth more to you than futzing to get rid for X :P

@Burgi Oh, @Bob can help with Ubuntu :P

@bertieb nono, you ask @jokerdino if you need help with ubunut

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@bertieb getting xpra running is probably going to be easier than getting rid of X ;p

@bertieb on the other hand, I don't really need to add feeds that often

I have maybe half a dozen active feeds now?

(last I tried Steam on crunchbang it didn't work because ~~$RAISINS~~ $REASONS, gave up and dual booted instead- now running pci passthrough via vfio)

@Bob It was more given your recent experience... you could say what to avoid :P

@JourneymanGeek Heh, trudat :P

10:23 AM

@Bob Do you mean Ubootu?

@bertieb I would say avoid installing it :P

~~Heh~~ lqtm :P

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@jokerdino while you're here...

askubuntu.com/users/682655/user682655 snack on a spammer.

Snacked.

Data recovery for a friend on an ancient Dell machine (ca 2002) done; casualties: the case (probably, why did they make em so hard to get into), and my ~~driving~~ typing finger

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(my good deed for the day)

10:34 AM

o.O

2002? What, did it catch fire?

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lol

naw, more likely exploded

@bertieb ooh, those are the bad old days

granted consumer dells never got much better

I just realised I don't really have any way to read PATA drives :S

Well, maybe chuck a livecd into that old P4 and hope it still boots

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lol

@Bob Hah! :P It would have easily done, assuming dust is flammable... (huge wads of the stuff)

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I think my old pc can, other than the dead monitor

@bertieb dust can explode

10:36 AM

A dust explosion is the rapid combustion of fine particles suspended in the air, often but not always in an enclosed location. Dust explosions can occur where any dispersed powdered combustible material is present in high enough concentrations in the atmosphere or other oxidizing gaseous medium such as oxygen. Dust explosions are a frequent hazard in underground coal mines, in grain elevators, and other industrial environments. On the other hand, they are also commonly used by special effects artists, filmmakers, and pyrotechnicians, given their spectacular appearance and ability to be safe...

@JourneymanGeek The drive (which is still spinning at the moment while recovery verifies) is drowning out music here somewhat

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sounds about right

@Bob Cheap USB adapter- I have an old one that does SATA as well; but it chokes on big drives for some reason

@bertieb turn down the music, you don't want to scare the drive :P

Shouting in the Datacenter

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data recovery or do you need that old thing running?

rofl. I WAS ABOUT TO DIG THAT UP!

10:37 AM

@Bob Oh, hey... that sounds fun :P

O_O that video's from 2008?

man, time flies

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@Bob someone linked it to a question a few years back

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Q: How vibration sensitive are hard disk drives?

I've gotten my hands on a seriously cheap laptop grade 2.5 inch drive. I'm intending to use one on a desktop that doesn't have 2.5 inch bays as a boot drive. While I know there are adapters available, I know its fairly common with SSDs to simply velcro/tape the drive somewhere. I'm wondering if I...

@Bob Wait what? Vibration from shouting maybe?

Ahhh

He said, not watching the video through to the end

In which it says exactly that

I'm, uh, gonna go over there → for a while

grabs coat

wtf? how is it now my fault for letting her sleep in?

> her

> my fault

Well, there's your problem

:P

10:48 AM

:)

In any case, bank holidays are made for sleeping-in!

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lol

apparently everyone is ._.

@Burgi You were supposed to wake her with breakfast in bed? ;p

11:04 AM

maybe

afk - popping to shop - hope it's open as it's a bank holiday ...

WATCH youtube.com/watch?v=EzQpkQ1etdA

URGENT

LIVE

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11:28 AM

flags as ~~spam~~ awesome

aww, no 4k?

11:55 AM

@Rahul2001 What KSP mod is that?

@bertieb huh?

@Rahul2001 Just a joke about Kerbal Space Program :D

Uh, okay :P

Seriously impressive stuff though

What a time to be alive

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1:07 PM

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"We TOLD you it was hard." "Yeah, but now that I'VE tried, we KNOW it's hard."

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1:49 PM

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2:47 PM

@JourneymanGeek hi kitty

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@tereško or use LTE

@allquixotic Or pretend to have LTE (in fact it is 2G)

s/talk to each other/read a newspaper/

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