Root Access

@Bob ovh.co.uk/black-friday?

:-D

Actually think it might be time to move back to OVH

Oh double RAM only for servers in Canada? Wtf

@FMLCat Huh, OVH has a cloud desktop thing?

@FMLCat Only the HOST range, too (Xeon-D IIRC)

30% off all soyoustart servers, if only any of them came with hybrid storage

@FMLCat if only any of them were in stock

oh wait that was kimsufi

:O ozbargain.com.au/node/344408

I can get a local Note8 for ~AU$930

tempted

That's not terrible availability

Could actually get two SYS servers, one with SSD and one with HDD for less than I'm paying now, and just NAS them together

@Bob Apparently Note 9 might finally have the fingerprint sensor back in a sensible position again but the tech still won't be ready for the S9

@Bob Also there's only a £5 difference, meh.

Odd, it's $14 difference on OVH.au

12:50 AM

1:27 AM

@Bob what's your preferred mobile browser?

1:41 AM

@Bob piwik is actually kinda nice

Actually has better information than google analytics

@FMLCat Firefox

Used to use Opera Mobile, stuck around on 12.10 for a while after they dropped Presto before switching to Firefox ~ 2013-14

:(

I miss the old opera

Cool

2:13 AM

> Once a long time ago a developer was known for announcing his presence on IRC with a simple, to the point 'Moo'. As with cows in pasture others would often Moo back in greeting. This led to a certain range of cow based jokes.

2:27 AM

Moo

ººW

chat.stackexchange.com/…

2:41 AM

theverge.com/2017/11/22/16691794/…

Fools!

> Late Wednesday night, TechCrunch reporter Josh Constine pleaded to tech billionaires to purchase local ISPs near FCC chairman Ajit Pai's home and slow down his Internet speeds.

Glorious!

@JourneymanGeek :D

That. THAT. is.... not the best part @MichaelFrank

> One of the responders to that tweet was Matthew Prince, co-founder and chief executive of Cloudflare, who said:
I could do this in a different, but equally effective, way. Sent note to our GC to see if we can without breaking any laws.

You mean this bit?

THAT. Is the best part.

@eastdakota @JoshConstine Did ya'll see this? It's the sweetest of irony. It's art https://twitter.com/dumbfook/status/933497474479779840

Tweeted by novelistparty on November 23, 2017 at 8:01 PM in reply to eastdakota

haaa

2:50 AM

yup

3:11 AM

... looks like my DX orders are going to get seriously split up

o.O

well I kinda have 2 items sent in one shipment. I have 6 items over 2 orders so...

at least 3 packages?

3:36 AM

So... I am about to get back to PowerShell development. Astaroth makes an incredible environment for development if it were not for the Ryzen segfault issue, but that primarily affects C/C++ development and not PowerShell or other interpreted languages.

Should I use the PowerShell ISE, or get Visual Studio Code?

considering the ISE is deprecated?

also, you don't really need (or have) an "incredible" environment

I'm leaning towards VS Code...

you need ... Windows, a keyboard, and a monitor

even Windows is arguable now

I guess I'm going with Visual Studio Code.

There's an official PowerShell add-on.

like, if you can run a modern web browser, you can run powershell no problem

heck, even if you can't run a modern web browser

3:38 AM

lol

that said, while powershell is nice for some automation tasks, its syntax stinks

it's got a great framework and environment. it's got nice cmdlets. it's not a nice language

3:56 AM

Nov 18 at 18:51, by bwDraco

(for an idea of what the current setup looks like)

Right (primary): Dell S2417DG. Left: Acer H226HQL.

4:15 AM

Window transparency for Visual Studio Code: marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=s-nlf-fh.glassit

(might be of interest because I use 85% opacity for console windows)

4:40 AM

...wow. I save a file with a .ps1 extension and the PowerShell Integrated Console magically appears in the VS Code window!

@bwDraco Do I see alien ship operator control panel?

lol

That's EVGA Precision XOC (graphics card overclocking tool) on the left.

And what's that reversed pentagram on the left? Are you a freemason?

That's the seal of Astaroth, the demon after which the system is named.

System?

4:44 AM

The desktop.

I've mentioned Astaroth enough times in this room that you probably should know.

I have been away.

Didn't notice.

Do you use virtual machine?

Oct 17 at 21:21, by bwDraco

So guys... After all this talk about Astaroth over the last few months, I think I will finally be able to put the dream PC together next week, just in time for Assassin's Creed Origins. This is my first fully-custom PC build, and it will be a very high-dollar build (~$3,500), though Mother will reimburse me for a substantial portion of the cost so this isn't an issue. I'm comfortable working with the guts of a PC, but again, first build. What do I need to know before I start building?

Brand new desktop.

@Boris_yo Hmm? I've been playing with VirtualBox a bit.

@Boris_yo pcpartpicker.com/user/FieryDragonLord/saved/pRCqsY

@bwDraco Just need a kind of "sandbox" because I will be surfing various websites and rating them.

Care to expand upon this?

Don't want to catch malware and viruses on my main system.

4:46 AM

Anti-malware project?

Contributing to search algorithm improval project.

Sadly, I might not be able to help you here. I've been rather busy lately.

@bwDraco Think Samsung 250GB SSD will get down to $69 this Black Friday or later?

So... any hints on PowerShell?

@Boris_yo The lowest price I see right now from a major retailer is US$89.99.

(Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB)

@bwDraco Does VirtualBox have Windows XP or 7 is also available?

4:58 AM

@Boris_yo It'll run these operating systems as guests, but you need to supply your own license.

@bwDraco Exciting isn't it? I would build PCs for entire life if it was a paid hobby...

The best job is a high-paid hobby. - Henry Ford

XKCD

No horse has yet managed the elusive Quadruple Crownâwinning the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness, the Belmont Stakes, and the Missouri Horse Hole.

lol

Took a bit of customization, but looks nice.

5:27 AM

looks unusable

@bwDraco As guests? How will it limit me?

@Bob What virtual machine software would you recommend if I want to run Windows 7 on it and try to recreate experience as close as to running it outside of virtual machine?

My configuration:

i5 2.6 MHz Core Duo
8GB RAM
Intel HD
250GB SSD

s/MH/GH/

You'd probably want more RAM and storage. This is a bit confusing, but the processor also seems rather old.

@Boris_yo How much are you willing to pay?

Do you have a processor model number?

I think he means a dual core core i5 rather than a c2d ;p

5:41 AM

2.6 GHz suggests a mobile processor. Which generation?

also worth looking at what you're trying to do

you can run, say a linux install off very little

Dual-core i5... probably a mobile (type U) part, judging from the clock frequency and core count.

I'm not sure this sort of processor would work well for virtualization.

Yeah, you can run VMs on this sort of hardware, but you might not get an optimal experience.

It'll work just fine.

The only question, as far as which piece of software you want to use, is how much you are willing to pay for it.

If you're willing to pay for a commercial solution... VMware Workstation Pro is on sale for Black Friday, though it will still cost you $150 (regular $230).

Well, regular price is $250 (though I'm seeing a $230 street price).

Otherwise, VirtualBox will do just fine and generally delivers very good performance on modern hardware.

(I started out with Windows Virtual PC when I was in high school but quickly took up VirtualBox)

vbox's biggest failings are poor graphics support and questionable stability

vmware is the de facto standard paid solution

hyper-v is probably good too

5:57 AM

...also had experience with Hyper-V, both client and standalone server, though I've had more than a few issues with the hypervisor causing problems with networking on the host machine.

VirtualBox is normally pretty stable in my experience, though I did have one case of a host crash (not sure if this is the fault of the hardware or the hypervisor).

Yeah. Their graphics needs work.

@bwDraco i5 2520M

@Boris_yo Ah. That will do some light-duty virtualization work.

@Bob Are there better than vbox and free?

I remember few years ago I had VmWare and it was free...

You should be able to achieve what you want, but I'd suspect you're going to be limited by the amount of memory on your system.

@Boris_yo There's a basic, free version called VMware Workstation Player.

@bwDraco huh, thanks. didn't realise there was a sale :P

6:01 AM

It'll only run one VM at a time and is missing some of the more advanced features, but has the same higher performance and better OS support as the Pro version.

@Boris_yo if you don't need snapshots and are using it non-commercially, I think vmware player is stll free

@bwDraco 8 GB is fine

@Bob I will be doing independent contractor work... Sounds commercial?

Might need to read their terms what they assume under commercial use.

That would qualify as commercial use.

@Boris_yo If you're getting paid for it, that is commercial.

> VMware Workstation Player is free for personal non-commercial use (business and non profit use is considered commercial use).

The full EULA is here vmware.com/au/download/eula/universal_eula.html

wait the non-commercial use is section 6.8 here vmware.com/content/dam/digitalmarketing/vmware/en/pdf/product/…

6:16 AM

VirtualBox's core package is open-source but the extension pack requires a paid license for commercial use ($50 per named user or $1,000 per socket). Unfortunately, the minimum order quantity for named-user licenses from the Oracle Store is 100, though you may be able to get a single license from a reseller (sans support, but allowing commercial use).

I'd probably go with VMware Workstation Pro at this point.

> Error encountered while creating user profile

gee thanks vmware

such a descriptive error message!

@bwDraco Thanks. Maybe I should pick Intel 250GB SSD that I use for cloning my main laptop, back it up and install W7 on it and operate on my second laptop? It currently has HDD, 4GB of RAM and is slow.

If you have no other planned use for the laptop and have means to protect against a virus spreading through your network, that might be a good idea.

(e.g. if possible, put the test machine on its own VLAN)

@Bob Thanks. That's what I was looking for.

@bwDraco VLAN? You mean virtual zone or something which is enabled in router settings?

I have NOD32. I wonder if it's enough to be protected if I surf a lot of random websites...

@Boris_yo No security solution is bulletproof. For stuff like malware research, I'd recommend having multiple layers of security, most critically to ensure that the system is isolated in the event it gets infected.

6:34 AM

@bwDraco Yeah. It just sits there so I think why not use it. It's W10 and SSD will make it way faster with it's 4GB of RAM. I will try cloning it onto Intel SSD first and see how it goes.

You might need another Windows license.

I had side-effects of cloning on Intel i330 and 535 SSDs on my main laptop. Will see how it goes with secondary laptop. Samsung SSD cloned flawlessly though.

@bwDraco Nope. Same configuration, different storage drive. Will need to phone and transfer license.

Oh, okay. You're just transferring data to an SSD on a system with an existing license.

@bwDraco Yeah and there is no need to do above process. However if I was installing from zero I would have to follow that process. I did it once on W7 machine that I had motherboard replaced.

Called automatic number, written down new license and W7 has activated!

I expected to talk with 3rd country representative but Microsoft even cut their costs there.

@Boris_yo If it's on your Microsoft account, the process should be easier: support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/…

6:40 AM

You mean I can register licenses on my Microsoft account?

Is it free to create account?

Is it US-only?

account.microsoft.com

7:01 AM

@bwDraco I don't think you can register OEM license there.

I also think yo u can't register retail license you bought offline.

Wait a sec. If you're using a Microsoft account to log into your computer, the license should be linked to your account.

Hmm...

May 17 '15 at 6:29, by DragonLord

I really just wish they would tie keys to Microsoft accounts so that this wouldn't happen.

Turns out they did implement this, after all!

(though not as flexibly as I wanted; you still can't reassign license seats arbitrarily, though reactivation after a hardware change is greatly simplified)

allquixotic

7:53 AM

Well, that’s a thing: there’s no Amazon app natively for Apple TV, but I can stream Amazon Prime Video at 1080p and great quality via AirPlay to my Apple TV connected to my new TV :D

So now I can watch anything on my TV that I could watch on my iPhone

Gotta love 802.11ac - the first actually good wireless standard

Nov 18 at 2:09, by Bob

@bwDraco Meh. Use the mobo. Didn't you get a high-end Asus board?

So... I've delegated case fan control to the motherboard.

Also fixed the speed control issue with the liquid cooler (turns out it wasn't delivering a full 12V to the pump)

9:19 AM

o.O

@JourneymanGeek ozbargain.com.au/node/340725