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Dog
7:04 AM
@Bob Surprisingly, better than I expect
 
@Bob I remember this one
@Pandya joke made several times :3
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek so. amazon says they can ship me a replacement if I wait a week (so that a month has passed).
 
Dog
@Bob My favourite
 
Bob
...I don't want a replacement! I want to find out what happened to this one!
If they ship a replacement, I bet the same thing's gonna happen again.
That's twice so far...
 
Dog
7:06 AM
@Bob What item?
 
Bob
@Dog 2x 8 TB external HDDs, a couple USB 3.0 cables, and a USB 3.0 expansion card thingy
that card's not gonna be used either... considering my new mobo only has a single internal header
 
Dog
@Bob Header? Or slot?
Never seen a mobo with >1 internal USB 3 header, though I'm sure they exist somewhere
 
Bob
@Dog one header each for USB 3.0, 2.0 and 3.1gen2
 
I'm getting this error and I shutdown Windows properly
 
7:09 AM
@Nick windows what?
 
@JourneymanGeek 10.0 Home Edition Single Language
 
@Nick fastboot and linux don't get along
 
Dog
@Bob Why's only one header a problem for using an expansion card? WAIM...
@Nick Windows 10 doesn't shut down. It pseudohibernates.
 
Bob
@Dog WAIM?
 
Dog
What am I missing
 
Bob
7:10 AM
@Dog it does if you turn off the hibernation :P
@Dog because my front panel (new case) uses that header
of course with the new stuff I have a new problem: I need two USB 2.0 headers (case, Corsair Link), and I only have one
so the other thing I'm trying to buy is an internal USB hub :P
 
Dog
Eh wait is this a front panel usb thing or is this a USB 3 PCIe card I'm confused
@Bob Oh, yeah, that. I had that same problem. Sorta.
 
Bob
and the only card I can find with more than a single internal header is some Eltron piece of crap
 
Dog
In the end I just disconnected the case's two USB 2 ports at the front. Cause it already had two USB 3, and I needed the internal header for my climate control system and my corsair link which I never set up
 
Bob
@Dog the one in my Amazon order, from last month, intended for my old mobo, is a rear card that attaches to the mobo USB 3.0 header.
Because my old case didn't have 3.0 on the front panel, so the header was sitting unused, so I wanted to use it.
@Dog Yea, I have the front one disconnected at the moment :P
 
Dog
@Bob oooooooooohhhhhh
 
Bob
7:15 AM
@Dog Speaking of, how do you connect both the climate control and link to one header?
I know the header has two data pairs
But the cable that comes with link ... covers both -_-
 
Dog
@Bob I don't. Hence why I never got the Link working properly. But the aquaero USB thing only uses half the header, so I was going to connect them using an internal extension cable that'd allow me to half-connect the Link cable
 
Bob
@Dog ah. you might want the same thing I'm looking for :P
I can either get the internal hub, or grab a pcie card
but pcie cards with 2.0 headers are nearly non-existent
 
Dog
@Bob Nah, well, yah. I did look into it but figured it was wasteful, and yet another dangly internal card that has nowhere to screw into
 
Bob
so maybe a 3.0 card with an adapter cable :P
@Dog the one @JourneymanGeek linked is magnetic and looks pretty nice
that said I do have far more spare space :P
too much space, as it turns out
 
Dog
Eh my desktop case was probably bigger tbh
 
Bob
7:24 AM
maybe, idk
 
Dog
Also something is really fuxored with my laptop's routing or firewall
 
Bob
mine already sticks out too far, so I might have to mod the desk
 
Dog
lol. I had to take the door off my desk
Huh my laptop's been going 12 days without a crash
Still... I think I might have to restart.
 
that's ... normal ;p
 
Dog
Too many websites not working
 
7:28 AM
@Dog I cringe every time I see exposed wiring. What is that supposed to be for, btw?
 
@Dog I managed to break keyboard and mouse support on a system
@Nick that's not really exposed
one side's a header, one side's a socket
 
@JourneymanGeek still, it's like underwear.
 
@Nick clearly sir, your victorian mores clearly indicate a certain lack of openmindedness ;p
 
Dog
@Bob The other thing I was going to try was to pull the pins out of the one for my climate controller and combine it into the one in the link by hand
Oh no I may have accidentally revealed what my climate control system is.
Except it's not that
 
@JourneymanGeek lol.
@Dog Jeapordy: Is it a doomsday device?
 
7:31 AM
@Dog HAX! HAAAAX
right. XP box is setup. I just need to find the last version of PDN that would work, and presumably a way to do backups - probably veem linux
 
Dog
Ah. Fixed it. No restart needed. Phew.
 
(finding all the drivers was a pain. WHY DID I EVEN INSTALL THE TPM DRIVERS? 0_0)
 
Dog
Hmm. Backups.
Keep running out of space on my SSDs, even though I have >500GB free. I'm just using it all very badly
 
@Dog this is a very expendable install ;p
and for some reason really fragile
 
Dog
Delivery within 48 hours, also 3-year warranty for only 79 quid...
Tempting (Dell charges something like 400 quid for a 3-year warranty)
 
7:34 AM
full hd only tho
that's kinda meh
 
Dog
Fine for me.
13 hours ago, by Dog
Ultrabooks with 4K displays already lose 40% of their battery life just wasting cycles rendering pixels you can't even see, and then rescaling them to be larger so people can actually read them again...
13 hours ago, by Dog
1080p on 15-17" is perfectly fine. Most eyes literally cannot discern more.
 
oh 4k is overkill
1440p on the other hand...
 
Dog
1440p would have been nice, but the options tend to be 1080 or 4k
 
@Dog that's a big jump
 
@Nick 1440p is sadly uncommon
 
Dog
7:38 AM
It's also the only GTX 1070 laptop I could get for under £1500, let alone 17-incher. Most others charge an additional £200+ for 17" over 15"
 
ah
HP's keyboards arn't half bad
and the cheap longer warranty handles any reliability concerns
 
Dog
Amazon has it on pre-order for the 27th. Otherwise I'd probably have it in my hands right now. (Hundreds of pounds of Amazon gift vouchers plus free same/next-day delivery without needing an address makes farrrr more likely to impulse buy if it's on Amazon)
 
Dog
Only concern is I'd want 16GB of RAM, but on a 17-incher I doubt it's hard to add an extra stick or two.
Course I'd tear out the 1TB hard drive and put in my spare 1TB SSD
Now that you mention it, the 1080p display is having me wonder... the 4K version is tempting
 
Got
Sid Meier's Civilization : Beyond Earth for 0.3 USD :d
 
Dog
7:45 AM
£400 more but you'd get the 4K display, double the RAM, and a 256GB PCIe SSD, which I wouldn't know what to do with
And tbh, I wouldn't expect a 17" high-end gaming laptop to get a huge amount of battery life regardless
But £1899 brings it dangerously close to the £2000 I didn't want to pay for a better machine.
Also no Thunderbolt? Not that I need it but come on
 
I think we're a generation or two away from that being common
 
Dog
Wait it doesn't even have USB-C
!!wat
 
Dog
@JourneymanGeek Pretty much all current-gen midrange and higher gaming laptops have it though
Just about every single new release at CES had it
Other than the super low-end ones
 
CES is pretty much "next gen" no?
 
Dog
7:51 AM
@JourneymanGeek I kinda said that last generation, expecting Intel would integrate the Thunderbolt controller one generation after Skylake but no, Kaby Lake came along with no reason to exist
@JourneymanGeek Well the HP was one of the CES "next gen" ones
 
@Dog other than the annual release cadence
ah
 
Dog
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that
s/reason/technological reason/
Other than the Z270 they've even just taken the exact same chipsets and slapped a "5" on the end of the name to make it sound new (H175, 155 etc.)
 
lol
and support for what'sthathting
which is probably just newer firmware
 
Dog
It had everything except thunderbolt :-(
The screen is even 75Hz G-sync
Oh it's also pretty thick. It looks thinner in the photos but that's just deliberately deceptively angled press shots.
 
Dog
8:02 AM
Still. Nice clean almost-symmetrical design. Easily user-serviceable, full storage options, giant battery thanks to no CD-bay, decent high-end screen even at 1080p, it had everything but the Thunderbolt
Eh, even the 1070 doesn't get close to optimal 4K performance, even though it maxes out everything at 1080p. Has a fairly decent go at it but I want a GTX 1170
 
Bob
@Dog That looks like a fairly typical HP nightmare to me.
 
Dog
@Bob What, actual cables, nothing soldered, and everything user replaceable? (Apart from the GPU/CPU which is soldered)
4 hours battery life, 8 hours idling. Could be worse.
Beats my current 13", dual core, no GPU laptop
bleh. 8am. no sleep. hungry.
 
Bob
@Dog lots of flat flex cables, lots of tiny screws everywhere
looks like a typical 15.6" laptop
better than the glued-shut ultrabooks, worse than the Clevo laptop I currently have :P
 
Dog
@Bob Meh its 17"
It's a good £300-400 cheaper than the competition
 
Bob
it's far from impossible to repair, but not particularly nice :P
 
Dog
8:15 AM
I'm not sure if saving £300 is worth the compromises for something that's likely to be my main machine for the next few years.
That is, unless I get a job, Skylake-E comes out, Zen pushes prices down, and I get some sort of 32-core monster for a desktop.
Ooh they're digging up the road outside my hostel to put down fibre
@Bob eh, with the cheap extended warranty I'm not expecting to need to repair it
It does look like they've literally taken last year's chassis and dropped a 7700HQ in it with zero other changes...
 
Bob
8:37 AM
@Dog hopefully they don't pull what they did to me :P
(fixing display, somehow managed to damage the sata cable (??), waited a month for them to get a new cable)
 
warrantys pfffft
 
morning
 
8:54 AM
hey @Burgi
 
is it home time yet?
 
I wish :(
 
9:14 AM
my minion is still pished
 
o_O
as in come to work in that state?
 
he did that thing where you go out but not intending to go out out but went out out instead
 
k.
so?
Coming to work intoxicated is a sackable offense most places
 
he isn't wasted
but probably still drunk enough not to be safe to drive (he walks to work)
 
9:18 AM
Oo
 
yeah, so shouldn't be at work....
:/
I leave that upto your discgression @Burgi :D
 
he'll be fine
 
I'm glad I don't have underlings
I think I'd be a boss from hell
I don't put up with crap
 
i'm a terrible boss
@djsmiley2k you can't say you've never turned up to work worse for wear in the past
 
9:48 AM
not actually intoxicated
Release Desktop Server Installation Guide
Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) HTML unpublished unpublished
Well thanks ubuntu, that's great D:
and /var/www/ is owned by root o_O
 
10:19 AM
yey got web server up and running muaha
progress, it smells so good
and yes @BenN I think i do want to do a ldap query now against dsa
to limit the results to only ones in the specific OU
Actually nope, as I can't then search the subset :(
 
10:33 AM
@djsmiley2k powershell could do it ;)
 
@djsmiley2k it should be owned by www-data ._.
 
Yo!
 
@JourneymanGeek should.
-_-
this is ubuntu, it's the scourge of the earth
 
I actually do mean in ubuntu
I run my own webserver on it
 
@Burgi can powershell present it to users in a way they understand?
welp, weird
mine is owned by root
 
10:46 AM
IT CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
and it's a fresh install
 
@djsmiley2k there's very little that can make users understand
 
i'm pretty certain @BenN has a PowerShell script that goes out and picks up chicks for him
 
rofl
and makes the coffee
right anyway
php up and running
 
LAMP or something more interesting?
 
11:00 AM
just lamp
just building a project at work to make someoenjs life easier
 
ah
I tend to favour lighttpd/php-fpm on VMs to save on ram usage ;p
 
meh, it's like a 50Mb file that's gonna get uploaded :D
it's gonna take awhile to process on a good day
not sure if I should go for the very simple proof of concept
or dive straight into jquery and other fun again
not that I perticularly like that stuff, but it's more impressive
 
11:19 AM
i liked some of the boot strap stuff i worked iwth, but it was litterally very simple things I was doing.
errr in firefox I can't type in a port for the proxy
I just have the up and down arrows
 
dafq?
ubuntu u so busted
 
0_0
which spin?
 
pure ubuntu 16.10
 
that's... odd
lemme boot into clocacina and check
 
11:25 AM
thanks
i don't really care, as once it's set it'll work
but seems really odd
Just amusing for something that should 'just work' to be broken in such ways
obviously testing things isn't happening somewhere down the line
 
Need to shudown and give this box some more ram I think
so slo something else too
 
ehh
I'd go with ubuntu server or lubuntu or xubuntu for a VM personallu
 
yeah
 
Bob
11:39 AM
> With its on-premises software and hardware sales in decline
gee, I wonder why
Oracle is quite possibly the most univerally-hated company in the software world o.O
Some people love and hate Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc..
I've never seen a single person say anything good about Oracle.
 
I used to like sun
I'd rather use a solaris box with CDE than OS X ;p
Oracle's just... ewww
and needs to die in a fire
 
Bob
lol
ZFS did come from (Open)Solaris
which of course Oracle closed right back up
 
which they killed off
though there's a few forks that seemed interesting
 
Bob
> At the time of this writing, our memcached infrastructure consists of 54 of AWS EC2’s r3.2xlarges, not including local caching on individual application servers. This comes out to nearly 3.3TB of dedicated caching.
O_O
 
Bob
11:45 AM
That's 3.3 TB of RAM
On 432 Xeon E5-2670 v2 cores
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek woof
 
> The company is alleged to have favored Asians, and particularly Indians, for positions in the "Professional Technical 1" job group and product development line.
>_>
by which they mean "they went for whoever was the cheapest"
 
Nod
building firms mostly employ polish people
because they work hard and long
 
yup
I heard the same thing from the scottish girl I know
 
11:54 AM
America is gonna find this problem as it tries to be 'great again'
 
It wants to be great, it wants to not do the work
 
@djsmiley2k tbh, a lot of indian empolyment firms are shifty as hell
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those guys were contractors working for a place stuffed with HR folk
speaking of which I need to email the shifty indian firm that's trying to shaft me in a day or two ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek SQUEEEE
 
Things would be a lot more equitable if companies actually handled their own IT, rather than outsourcing stuff to other companies.
(once again, I'm grumpy cause of my own experiences ;p)
whoa
krebsonsecurity.com/2017/01/… this is some pretty serious investigative journalism
2
 
12:14 PM
@JourneymanGeek welp i got 2 days back at work \o/
 
0_0
yay? welp?
!!baroo
 
12:25 PM
assh
 
(man, that was years ago. ;p)
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Following those links is like tvtropes all over again
 
1:03 PM
i hate filling out timesheets
well actually i don't
its the system we have to use
its just bad
 
1:24 PM
yrgh i'm in such a bad mood today
 
do you need a hug?
 
Or a squeeky toy?
 
both maybe
You know those days when you feel all AURRRGH and don't know why?
 
Dog
@djsmiley2k Yep
 
thats me, today
 
Dog
1:32 PM
Aww hugs
 
morning
 
Dog
:-o
People drive on the left in Oz?
 
4
Q: Is A record more secure than CNAME record

Adrian GunawanI have a client which uses our white label web application. Their url is portal.client.com. When I asked them to point the url to CNAME app.company.com, they said that it has to be an A record. I argued that CNAME would be ideal because if we ever have ever need to change the ip address, we can ...

evidentally.. CNAME records ARE URL REDIRECTS? What kind of BS am I reading?
The fact that the CNAME is a URL redirect the best approach is to set an A record to the Hosting provider webserver. This provides a more secure approach as we can't guarantee that the CNAME will continue to masquerade the third party URL as far as end users are concerned on the browser level.
Wow ^
 
@NotAdminDave Someone's playing buzzword bingo :)
 
1:43 PM
Id have to agree with that.
Or someone's just clueless and doesn't read rfc's
 
We could alias RFC to Repair for cluenessless.
 
@Hennes you will need to create an RFC for that...
 
I shall not mention that but you must use a random number for that.
You shall not selecta number which is already in use.
 
To fair fair, RFC can be hard to read if you are not used to them.
 
1:52 PM
@Hennes No worse than reading source code :)
 
RFC seem to be more consistent than source code though.
 
> (although the mechanism behind this is somewhat complicated).
lol
 
LOL an old customer of ours is blaming us for the fact that they have had a cyber-squatter on their domain since 2012
its that guys domain, he registered it
 
> I argued that CNAME would be ideal because if we ever have ever need to change the ip address, we can just do it in one place rather than contacting each of our clients to update their DNS record,
What the...
People like that are in a position where they are allowed to argue about DNS changes O___o
 
There's nothing stopping them from using both though
 
2:02 PM
use ALL THE THINGS
 
they can use an SPF record!
 
or a serv record...
hm
Actually
a cname is an alternate name for a resource right?
are 2 different tenants for the same application one resource or two? ;p
sigh
 
2:18 PM
@JourneymanGeek do you remember this?
Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds (Spanish: D'Artacan y los Tres Mosqueperros; Japanese: ワンワン三銃士 [Wan Wan Sanjuushi; lit., The Woof Woof Three Musketeers]) is a Spanish–Japanese animated adaptation of the classic Alexandre Dumas story of d'Artagnan and The Three Musketeers. Most of the characters are anthropomorphizations of dogs, hence the title of the cartoon; although there are a few exceptions, most notably Dogtanian's two sidekicks Pip the mouse and Planchet the bear, among several others. == Production == Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds was created by the joint production of B...
 
>_>
Not ever seen that
 
woof woof woof, woof woof woof, muskehounds are all for one
 
HEYY!
 
sits on @Rahul2001
 
:D
 
2:22 PM
pervert
 
@Burgi Which one of us? I love dogs :/
 
O.o
 
hi
I'm a cat.
 
Hi Cat!
(You mean this isn't the housepets anonymous?)
 
sup i'm a log.
 
2:37 PM
peers at @djsmiley2k
 
@djsmiley2k I'm pretty sure the DirectorySearcher approach should search all OUs under and including the one you specify
Alas, the machine I'm currently on is not domain-joined, so I can't easily test this
 
hi
I'm bald
11
 
And cock-a-doodle-doo, I'm a rooster
 
Scamper I'm a squirrel!
 
@BenN there's one of those wandering about my neighbourhood ;p
 
2:53 PM
11 hours ago, by Bob
that article blog post is terribad
An article is always an article.
However, I just find I'm constantly linking to low-quality content...
 
@bwDraco eh. Its an opinion piece , and not a good one.
 
Is there a general community consensus that I'm posting unreliable content?
Is this impacting the community's views towards me?
 
Do I need to do anything about this?
 
We deal with these things as they happen, we offer an opinion and that's it
Don't overthink it
 
2:55 PM
Am I risking a general loss of trust?
I think the problem is that I'm not reading critically...
 
Nothing a beard can't fix
 
2 mins ago, by bwDraco
An article is always an article.
 
@bwDraco I'll bring it up at the next meeting
 
...this attitude shows precisely what is wrong.
@OliverSalzburg lol
 
@bwDraco If you're linking something, clearly there's going to be opinions
One of the reasons for chats is, well, discussion, after all
 
2:57 PM
I'm too willing to trust content I read.
 
You also make a massive fuss over small things ;p
 
It shows I'm gullible and puts me at risk of being deceived.
 
Everybody's at risk of being deceived :)
cf. semi-recent events
 
Ah well. I'll be more careful in the future. Not a huge deal. However, I'm validating everything I read before I link to it.
I've tended to jump to conclusions, too.
Nothing a bit of self-control can't fix...
 

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