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9:03 AM
Should we be discussing religion? ;p
I use PHP apps cause its almost the lowest common denominator you can run stuff on
 
@Psycogeek Haven't been using my cordless drill for almost 2 years. It uses NiCADs. Do they require usage once in a while like lithiums do to not have their performance degraded?
 
and a lot of stuff that I like's in PHP
 
Turns out getting a girl is tougher than installing moodle...
 
and its easier/cheaper to find/pay for *amp hosting than say python or windows
 
9:05 AM
@Boris_yo Did you keep the batteries disconnected?
 
Thes solar chargers. How safe they are being charged under the sun with lithium battery inside?
@DavidPostill Yes.
 
@Boris_yo That's good.
 
Leaving lithium cased and under the sun sounds like an accident waiting to happen...
 
@Rahul2001 Hmm. "getting a girl" may be part of your problem. They are not commodities ...
 
@DavidPostill I realise that... I used the wrong words :(
 
9:12 AM
@Rahul2001 How you say things is important. It affects your subconscious. Some people would say it also has wider effects ...
 
I...
Uh
 
gods below, another one has overdosed the political correctness
 
@tereško It's got nothing to do with political correctness. It's about thinking/being in a more harmonious way. More to do with philosophy and belief systems than being PC. It's hard to explain exactly what I mean ... "you are the words you speak" comes close.
 
9:43 AM
@DavidPostill i am lead to believe that there are websites where you purchase them
its a service industry
 
:D
 
@Burgi <splorf>. You now owe me a bunch of screen wipes as well as a beer! :)
 
also, @Burgi "purchase" and "rent" is not the same thing
only places where selling people is an industry is in some african and some middle-eastern countries
 
@tereško people trafficking is not restricted to the countries you mention ...
 
@Burgi I believe the term is ladies of negotiable affection...
 
9:52 AM
@JourneymanGeek and in some places not restricted to real ladies ... ;)
 
@DavidPostill for variable values of 'real'
 
what is going on here?
 
Not that I have any personal experience of this ...
 
I believe we're reaching the point where the animaniacs go "Good night kids"
 
@arda we are corrupting younglings
 
9:54 AM
@DavidPostill true. But in the the rest of the world it is illegal/
 
and I'm in a slightly arkward position. ;p
 
@Burgi can't corrupt me! Try @Rahul2001
 
(there might be a few transfolk on the network, so... be aware we do want them feeling safe etc. )
 
strange how meaning of "safe" has changed
 
@tereško Gentle reminder over the whole hitting people over the head ._.
 
9:58 AM
@JourneymanGeek Hmm. Point taken. But I don't see anything said that might offend anyone that may or may not be in the room. We were talking in about situations that actually exist in real life in some places.
 
@DavidPostill Well, it feels like its in humour - I know a guy whose ex girlfriend is a guy, and I know a few FTM folk online so... I might be a little more sensitive about it than most
 
@JourneymanGeek I'll shut up then.
 
Sorry to be a bit of a wet blanket, but this is one of those topics that could go downhill fast
 
@tereško Didn't change much. It now includes mental health and self harm too.
 
Uh... I just came into a WiFi zone again and this is not the conversation I was expecting...
 
10:02 AM
In this case "Is this going to make people who might walk in comfortable in a bad way?"
@Rahul2001 your timing is impeccable.
 
@JourneymanGeek I've realised that time and time again over the past few weeks...
 
@Rahul2001 or its really bad
 
Let's all not discuss anything gender, religious or politically related. Someone is sure to be offended. Have I missed out any other contentious topics?
 
@DavidPostill I think it was the particular tangent
 
godaddy's DNS management system is so confusing
 
10:05 AM
@DavidPostill php
 
and they claim to have made it easier!
 
I don't like telling people what to/not to talk about. I do have a certain responsibility to go "hey, this could go wrong" when it does.
 
@arda it also includes now "safe from contradicting opinions"
 
@tereško I'd note - I never told people "don't talk about this" - I pointed out why I felt I didn't feel the current tangent wasn't appropriate, as any user has some right to. I think it was the conjunction of topics that was troublesome for me.
 
@tereško contradicting opinions can impact mental health pretty severely considering everything they have to go through. Let's stop discussing.
 
10:09 AM
@JourneymanGeek Point taken.
 
and sigh
much too much chat drama today.
 
shrug
 
@JourneymanGeek yes, and I pointed out that "safe" these days can mean anything you want it to mean
@arda if a contradicting opinion can cause a mental breakdown, that person should be seeking professional help instead of hiding from "evil opinions"
 
do you group FTP details by site/customer then by server type (dev/staging/live) or by server type then list the sites?
 
10:24 AM
@Burgi Thank you for changing the topic. However, I don't understand your question ...
What do you mean by "FTP details"?
 
@tereško let's stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
So-chatbot pls
 
@arda agreed
 
@DavidPostill in filezilla you can list all the FTP access details for sites you deal with
 
10:30 AM
@Burgi Ah. So you are asking for an opinion? This is a polling question? :)
My answer, therefore, has to be neither. I don't use filezilla. FireFTP is good enough for me :)
 
i know, they are off-topic but....
 
@Burgi Not here. Opinions are allowed as long as the question is not about gender, religion, politics or PHP as people may or may not be offended. Filezilla does not appear to be in any of those categories.
 
site001
          |------- LIVE
          \------- STAGING
site002
          |------- LIVE
          \------- STAGING
OR
LIVE
|----- site001
\----- site002
STAGING
|----- site001
\----- site002
 
@Burgi the former makes more sense to me
 
thats what i was thinking
 
10:36 AM
unless your live and staging servers need different versions of server side software
 
@Burgi Wait, you use FTP? Ewww.
 
but then they would be different servers
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy SFTP
 
but the principle is the same
 
10:38 AM
@Burgi the former keeps stuff together
 
@JourneymanGeek Why would that make a difference?
 
the latter makes sense if live and staging were different servers
 
I feel more comfortable with SSH, scp and rsync
 
@DavidPostill ^
 
they are different servers
 
10:39 AM
then they would end up being different servers
@Burgi ugh. I forget, you'd dump everything on a san no?
 
@Burgi @JourneymanGeek But each entry is independent. The tree is only a way of arranging entries. It has nothing to do with how they are configured.
 
I'd still go option 1 then tho
 
Boy, it is so hard to keep up the pace after a month away from the gym, when you was already badly out of shape to begin with...
 
ah
then it wouldn't matter?
but I think it makes sense to be able to pull up a single customer as a single branch on a tree
 
@JourneymanGeek That makes sense.
 
10:41 AM
What @DavidPostill said. It's only an organizational choice
@JourneymanGeek yep. Grouping by project or client makes sense
I need a new avatar
> Opinions are allowed as long as the question is not about gender, religion, politics or PHP
LOL
 
option 1 it is
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Please don't google "that brazilion guy image" for inspiration :)
 
o.O
 
@tereško I don't want to continue bit quick note on my previous statement. Se is a network of people from different countries, ages, races, sexual preferences and genders. It is a safe zone. There are people who might be getting harassed or joked about irl or online, however I don't think that we should contribute to it.
I for one, had moments where I got pretty depressed after getting spammed "terrorist" online (I live in middle east) and going to stack chat and discussing normal stuff really helped me feel better. If I had same stuff happen in SE, my mood would probably get worse.
 
@DavidPostill you know I'll have to do this, don't you?
 
10:48 AM
@ThatBrazilianGuy lol
 
@arda my stand is if something might be as such, its better to let people know, politely, rather than let things explode.
I know for a fact one of our (not very regular) users is MTF
 
And this is precisely why I kinda brought up the whole thing
Two? That's twice as many as I'd thought
 
I'm not saying who, because although she don't actively hide it, she doesn't actively discloses it openly either
 
Two?
That's two more than I knew about.
 
10:51 AM
So it's a deeply personal issue and how she deals with it is up to her
But yeah, you never know how something you consider "just an opinion" and mention casually might be perceived by someone near you
Although I also worry about being too PC
 
Which is why I'd rather people understand why I'm not comfortable with the direction the topic took, over just mod-fiating it.
 
Like that South Park episode where they keep removing stuff from Christmas out of fear of offending cultures, and in the end it's just people standing still in plain clothes
3% battery and gym time up, bye peoples
 
11:19 AM
@arda strange. Since lot of people from Turkey, say that they are part of Europe.
 
@tereško Turkey is in Middle East, Asia and Europe. If you'd ask to me to pick one, I'd pick asia or middle east (only a relatively small part of our lands is on europe). Some (inc. me) considers turkey in middle east, some don't. I used "middle east" because that's why those people harassed me.
 
middle east is part of asia, and I do believe more of it is in asia than europe
@arda see, if anyone did that here, I'd have to kick their ass.
 
so apples or oranges...?
 
@Burgi vaguely
 
I find it hard to believe, that anyone would harass you because you wrote in your SO profile, that you are from Turkey
 
11:30 AM
We're all fruit made of meat after all
 
@JourneymanGeek nope, we are eukaryotes
... though, you can identify as peach, if you really want to
 
@tereško @arda Didn't say they they were harassed on SE because of their profile.
51 mins ago, by arda
I for one, had moments where I got pretty depressed after getting spammed "terrorist" online (I live in middle east) and going to stack chat and discussing normal stuff really helped me feel better. If I had same stuff happen in SE, my mood would probably get worse.
"If I had same stuff happen in SE, my mood would probably get worse." suggests the harassment happened elsewhere.
 
So, a group of people found him on the Internet and started calling him "terrorist" for no other reason than writing that he's from Turkey.
I'm somewhat sceptical.
That would be like suddenly people attacking as being part of alt-right
 
11:48 AM
what the fuck...
our catch-all address has deleted itself from AD....
 
Hired new admin recently?
 
nope
 
12:04 PM
Back with my beloved WiFi... ;P
@tereško You clearly don't have a ton of experience with 4chan...
 
Powerstript caught fire before...... OK, I did not anticipate that when answering....
I think the problem is with the power strip. It has caught on fire before when too much power was used from it. Maybe the metal bars in it have too much resistance. I will replace it, and report back. — MrChips 6 hours ago
 
Bob
@Burgi O365?
 
yes
 
Bob
O365 doesn't officially support catch-alls, but there's a hack to route it -_-
 
i say catch-all i mean group mailbox for all our web invoices/services etc
 
Bob
12:17 PM
Catch-all hack still works :D
 
@Rahul2001 so, you think 4chan picked his name at random and started attacking .... sound legit
 
@tereško I don't think 4chan picked his name at random and started attacking... I just think that the internet can be very harsh to certain people for the stupidest of reasons...
 
we have web@company.tld which is a group mailbox
 
I can certainly imagine a pissed of person on the internet calling someone a terrorist if he is from the Middle East as an insult
 
Bob
12:22 PM
speaking of, work is moving to O365 next month
 
all our support emails, invoices and related emails go to it
it has somehow removed itself from AD
 
Bob
so I'll hopefully be going from ~111 MB to a nice big 50 GB mailbox
 
@bob does your company do technical support?
one of our directors keeps telling us to use a company in australia for all our tech support needs
in other news my penguin has the following question:
> what do penguins wear to the beach?
 
@Rahul2001 that was kinda my point: he couched his statement as if "people started harassing me for no reason" ... which is why I said that I am somewhat skeptical
 
12:38 PM
@tereško Well maybe he meant "no good/sensible/justifiable reason"...
 
maybe
 
@Burgi A beakini
 
@DavidPostill flipper flops
 
@DavidPostill AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!learn peeeeeenguin <> i.stack.imgur.com/CjrVE.jpg
 
12:50 PM
@Burgi Please enter some output
 
damn
 
As far as I know there are no penguins present who may or may not be offended by that image.
 
!!help
 
@Burgi Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
@Burgi remove the space after <>
 
12:56 PM
@Burgi Command peeeeeenguin learned
 
yay!
!!peeeeeenguin
 
one day i am going to film my minion doing his chair dancing
 
A buit late, but I would go for option #2. I want to be able to reboot a Staging / testing / Acceptance server to make sure things work.
Best not have any production on the same server.

Though I guess once could use VMs.
@bob: Why not mail yourself some nice backup .pst files?
 
@Burgi I'm almost tempted to not add that to my blocklist ...
 
1:03 PM
i'll have forgotten about it by dinner
 
Changing the subject again, it looks like I will be recapped today :)
19
A: Save the output of command in file MS-DOS 1.x

DavidPostillIt seems that [COMMAND]>[FILE] does not work in the early versions of MS-DOS. I am using MS-DOS 1.25 and the above expression gives the statement invalid argument That is correct. What you want to do is not possible in v1.25. Command redirection (along with many other improvements) was ad...

HNQ
 
I've only ever reached the limit thrice...
 
@Rahul2001 I'm aiming for the Legendary badge ...
 
@DavidPostill Ooooh ;)
 
@Rahul2001 I've got 70. Its more luck and tenure than skill ;p
 
1:09 PM
> Its more luck and tenure than skill
 
@DavidPostill are the cat macros that much of an issue?
 
I agree
 
I can talk to dog about it and/or mindjail them
Its brought up enough that other mods are concerned
 
@Rahul2001 Only 2 people on Super User have it. And neither of them is @JourneymanGeek :)
 
LOL
Seriously though, luck is, to a certain limit, responsible for rep and badges
 
1:12 PM
200 rep a day is either a hot question or bounties
 
Hmm :)
Simple Definition of tenure

: the amount of time that a person holds a job, office, or title

: the right to keep a job (especially the job of being a professor at a college or university) for as long as you want to have it

law : the right to use property
 
@DavidPostill the longer you're here, the longer you have to have collected repcaps ;)
So I'm using tenure here in the sense of the former
 
@JourneymanGeek What? Not an issue. I just choose to block them (and all other silly pictures). Remember I have a limited monthly download, otherwise I probably wouldn't care at all ...
 
@JourneymanGeek Some images in the past have been a bit oversized ...
 
1:19 PM
yeah, giant gifs? ;p
 
@rahul: Repcapping a can be amaimed for. Look for questions with simple problems and supply even simpler answers.
Everybody seems to understand the answer, goesd 'yeah, that is what I would have done' and upvotes.
Do not write nice long extensive techincal answers with diagram and external references.
I have expect to recpcap if I post an answer with 'did you try turning it off and on again?'
 
@Hennes or go for bounties
works for harry
@Hennes I go for caliberated sarcasm ;p
 
I think I should write an answer for 'How do webservers work because mine does not and I made this configuration error' and then self-answer it.
And do that for quite a few topic which keep getting asked over and over
 
Having said that I believe the caaaaaaaaaaaaaat and doooooooooooooooooog posts are annoying for some regulars. A simple hello/good evening/whatever might be more acceptable.

Unfortunately any such hints have disappeared into a black hole or have prompted mooooooooooooooooore such posts.
 
1:24 PM
ahh, true
 
I agree, a !!caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat between a regular and sensible conversation can be disrupting...
 
@JourneymanGeek Who is one of the 2 people who have legendary ....
 
@DavidPostill Yeah, but he only goes for bounties, and I sometimes feels he dosen't get things.
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm not disagreeing :)
 
1:29 PM
I never know the answer to the bounties :(
 
@Rahul2001 sometimes neither does he. ;p
 
is donald trump running for indian president too?
 
My strategy is to answer questions that I am able to answer in the best way possible. If the question ends up on HNQ and I get more votes that is a bonus. So far I've never managed to figure out in advance which questions actually end up HNQ. This one happened overnight while I was asleep. It was a nice surprise to see so many upvotes this morning ...
 
1:36 PM
When you have a nasty problem yourself, find nothing on it online, then take the time to solve it and put up a self-answer. Those generate shitloads of rep over time ;P
 
:-)
 
@OliverSalzburg Yeah, but don't usually repcap ...
 
@DavidPostill If you get enough of those answers, you repcap every day ;P
 
@OliverSalzburg Maybe I should change my name to Jon Skeet ;)
 
lol
 
1:39 PM
The other day a guy on Stack Overflow seemed really pissed because I gave him an upvote only, instead of the accept
Because he doesn't get anything out of upvotes, as he repcaps every day anyway
What a world :P
 
@OliverSalzburg Oooer. Bizarre.
 
This isn't true either: youtube.com/watch?v=QlI5yArLvLU
 
Fellows! quick question
0
Q: Can I make a ext4 bootable usb?

LinuxGeekIf yes,how can I do ? It will be really helpful if someone answers. I use rufus for creating a bootable usb. i am stuck in the grub rescue mode with no way other than installing again but since I cannot enter into Bios, I am planning to boot from the grub rescue windows using the ls function Gr...

this sound more of Linux and suitable in U&L
can we report?
 
A bootable drive does not necessarily run linux...
 
fair point.
 
Bob
1:49 PM
@Burgi nup. well, for our own software, but not generic support
 
WTF? We're human too!
Also, our government changes every four years... The decisions taken half a century ago are not likely to be taken again...
 
Bob
> We're human too[citation needed]
Until you prove otherwise, I'll continue assuming you're a dog :P
 
I don't mind :P
 
@Bob @Rahul2001 from the future ;p
 
@Bob woof?
@AzkerM it's on topic here. So no migration.
 
1:58 PM
@DavidPostill That is true, but I'm not really in the mood for arguments at the moment
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek you around for sr/steam? :P
 
@Bob dogsitting in the car. I think today is a bust.
 
Bob
lol
 
@JourneymanGeek Please be careful. The word "bust" might offend somebody who may or may not be present and who may or may not actually have or want to have a "bust" or not.
 
Yea, @JourneymanGeek, there might be women in here!
 
2:06 PM
@DavidPostill I'm not sure if that's meant to be sarcastic or not...
 
@Rahul2001 I'm not either.
 
@DavidPostill What the actual shit..
 
2:26 PM
awkward silence is awkward
So, who is #1 for rep in Root Access?
I mean, in Root Access, who is #1 rep on Super User
 
journeyman?
 
beaten by @DavidPostill AGAIN
 
2:31 PM
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A: Windows 10 Jumplist pinned server items lag?

var firstNameTry backing up the files from your NAS. Afterwards, delete them from the NAS, open them on your local computer, and save them directly to the NAS from their respective programs (i.e. Excel). Unpin the Jumplist shortcuts, pin the new files, and you should be good. If all goes well, you're done. E...

Is my answer marked as solution?
 
@Burgi timing is everything ;)
 
i come across so many question in the 1st post queue and i think "hey i can answer this!". i check it and @DavidPostill has already answered and written an answer a million times better than i was going to do
 
lol
I had a really good answer when I first started
With images and everything
Would've gotten all the babes upvotes..
 
@Burgi When I finally manage to get a job the playing field will be more level ...
 
Then I found out I can't post images until I've got X rep
 
2:35 PM
i think you are the fastest rep gainer of 2015
 
who
Postill? Maybe.
 
yes, he is
 
@Burgi And 2016 :)
 
that deserves a badge
 
2:37 PM
@Burgi lol
 
IDK man
PIMP_JUICE_IT is doing pretty well
 
@Burgi
#93 year rank
+491 change
2,101 total reputation
1,742 year reputation
 
Having started 10mo ago
 
@PIMP_JUICE_IT is #11
 
@Burgi Is #2 for the quarter ...
 
2:39 PM
Yes, but he started 10mo ago
Has really made a name for himself, having started <1y ago
 
i was unemployed for a month....
is @PIMP_JUICE_IT your sock puppet @varfirstName?
 
@Burgi I have a very tiny violin somewhere.
 
But he let me have the rep on this bounty: superuser.com/questions/1100772/…
 
@DavidPostill what i mean is got a huge boost when i was unemployed hence #2 for the quarter
 
2:42 PM
roar
 
@bwDraco ROAARRR
 
@Burgi that helps to an extent if your motivated
 
@Burgi Ah. So that explains my huge rep then. It must be because I've been unemployed since mid 2013 ...
 
@DavidPostill yeah... <.<
sorry :(
 
I would much rather have a job ...
 
2:46 PM
this is typically better, yes
 
Hey, @JourneymanGeek you're #1 in this room for SU rep
 
Unless Wil drops by ;p
 
Yea, true
Wilhil?
 
I also suspect I've been around a bit longer than many of the folk here.
 
right?
 
2:50 PM
yup
 
Wait..
@DavidPostill You use MS-DOS?
 
> Why is my herbal alchemist not included in the boost strength stamina titles?
title of an audit review
 
@varfirstName Not recently :)
 

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