Root Access

8:06 PM

@tereško That could be ~~hilarious~~ scary, instant alcohol poisoning... drunk then dead.

clonk click

/me warily eyes computer

@allquixotic: Err, I can't remember what their "test server" IIPs are, but you could always ping my host: vs2.qasdfdsaq.com

@al

Oops

@allquixotic: Online are based in Paris so compared to OVH, the latency from US is probably about 6ms higher compared to OVH Roubaix, and about 10ms lower than OVH Strasbourg. No idea what it's like vs. OVH Canada.

Probably at least 60ms higher than Canadia.

Bob

8:22 PM

@Leathe I just don't think I have the time to deal with reinstalling all my crap right now :\

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq ouchie

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic: Everything across the atlantic has a minimum of 60ms, the speed of light only gives an absolute minimum of 40-50ms :(

I believe the next-gen transatlantic cable just going live now, supposedly the "fastest ever" is rated at 56ms from landing point to landing point.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I'm at a minimum of some 200ms RTT across the Pacific Ocean :P

qasdfdsaq

I remember when I was last in China (probably nearly ten years ago now) we had a 2500ms RTT to the UK

Bob

Yay speed of light.

370ms RTT to Hetzner

Lilienthal

8:31 PM

Question: I was looking into how to swap keyboard keys in Windows for a troublesome application. I found [this classic]((http://superuser.com/questions/36920/how-can-i-remap-a-keyboard-key)) ("How can I remap a keyboard key?") which covers permanently remapping keys. Upvoted answers all boil down to the known Registry Hack for swapping them or GUIs that automate that, requiring a reboot.
I wanted a solution that will let me activate and deactive the remapping at-will and without rebooting. Ideally I wanted a solution that can recognise processes. I ended up starting AutoHotkey again and fig…

Bob

230ms RTT to Wholesale-Internet based in ~mid USA.

280ms RTT to OVH Canada

Lilienthal

Looks like I fucked up the links, hang on.

Bob

350ms RTT to your Online.net server.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob: In your case the difference between all the European providers would probably be moot, 370ms vs. 380ms is not going to be noticeable

Bob

@Lilienthal Chat multiline doesn't like formatting.

Lilienthal

8:33 PM

Yeah it looks like it.

qasdfdsaq

So yeah, an extra 70ms from Canadia

Lilienthal

Well the links still work at least.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Except theirs is (was?) more of an artificial chokepoint/lack of bandwidth, not speed of light/cable length restrictions.

qasdfdsaq

(See what I did there? American => America, Canadian => Canadia hurr durr)

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I'm just kinda disappointed we always seem to go through the pacific - going through the SEA-ME-WE cable would probably be closer in terms of distance to Europe.

qasdfdsaq

8:35 PM

You based in AU?

Bob

@Lilienthal You can try asking "How can I remap a keyboard key depending on the active process" and link to the old question with a brief explanation of why the answers are not suitable for you.

@qasdfdsaq Yea. Sydney.

Lilienthal

Yeah that was my plan, I just wanted to check that it was sufficiently different. Not all sites treat dupes equally. :)

Bob

@Lilienthal To some extent it depends on who sees it, and how you respond to the dupe accusation in the comments.

Some of our users like closing as dupe. Others will listen to explanations of why the original is not suitable.

If you want a stronger argument - propose the new question on meta.su first, then you can just point to that in the comments.

qasdfdsaq

Honestly in that case it probably wouldn't be any faster the other way round. I typically see around 350ms to SE Asia (HK, Indonesia, etc.)

Although Japan is faster, about 170ms from UK

I'm still waiting for the day they invent subspace (faster than light) communication

Bob

@Lilienthal However, if you already have a self-answer, consider just adding it as an answer to the existing question.

Lilienthal

8:42 PM

@Bob Yeah good point. I probably won't write the question up today but I'll see about posting it on meta first. To be honest, I think I can safely make the argument for a separate question since I'm swapping Space and Enter, which is really not something you want to have active persistently. :)

Bob

Unless you specifically want more/better answers to your question.

Lilienthal

That was the idea.

An answer suggesting AutoHotkey was in fact posted on the original: superuser.com/a/807160/151383

Except it's pretty low quality and doesn't actually tell you much.

qasdfdsaq

No idea what the question was but +1 for AutoHotkey

Bob

@Lilienthal In that case, you have a stronger case -- you want to remap keys temporarily.

Dunno about the second question you linked, though.

Lilienthal

Additionally, the answers given in the first question are about remapping keys, the reg key doesn't allow swapping keys IIRC.

Though I'd probably still title the question remapping if I get round to posting it.

Bob

8:44 PM

Sometimes, if the new question is significantly better (more general, etc.) we might consider closing as dupe in the opposite direction.

Especially since I think we probably have multiple similar AHK questions -- if you can make yours more like a canonical question that'll help.

Lilienthal

Yeah, the second question I linked has only one answer and is specific to using AHK. In fact the answer mentions other software ("You may need to try a different macro software (AutoIt, PhraseExpress, Macro Express)") so each one of those could probably be an answer on the new question.

Bob

@Lilienthal There's not much point expecting answers with multiple tools when one works just as well.

Only if that one tool doesn't actually work for some given case.

Otherwise, it's better to just ask the specific question of how to do X in that tool if you need it for other reasons.

Lilienthal

Wouldn't the goal of a canonical question be to have multiple approaches and avoid the "when all you have is a hammer" syndrome?

Bob

True.

Lilienthal

A single-use tool allowing automatic process selection and a simple GUI for key swapping would probably be preferable for many users over the powerful but not very user-friendly AHK.

Bob

8:49 PM

Should first check to see how many similar Qs there are.

Lilienthal

I just don't know of any that exist.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Yea, way to break out understanding of Physics :P

qasdfdsaq

Someone just schooled me on what "cool for the summer" means. I'm not sure what's more broken. Our understanding of physics, or society at large.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq See, the restriction there isn't distance.

Cool for the... what?

qasdfdsaq

Demi Lovato - Cool for the Summer (Official Video)

►

^^ that

(Posted to indicate that it's a contemporary pop song, not to indicate that you should watch the video - you really ought to not)

Lilienthal

8:58 PM

So does it actually mean something or is it just the name of a song?

Bob

o.O

qasdfdsaq

You... don't want to know

Bob

lol

doesn't that apply to every other pop song?

Michael Frank

Ugh... waiting for Win7 to recreate a profile on login is painful...

qasdfdsaq

Taylor Swift tends to be mostly P.G. still

Err, non PG

U rated? I dunno how ratings work outside this country

Michael Frank

9:00 PM

@qasdfdsaq Pretty much is there isn't swearing, it's all ages.

qasdfdsaq

^^ yeah, that

Michael Frank

Unless it's considerably explicit content.

qasdfdsaq

"Suitable for all ages as it is free of profanity, sexual content and violence"

Speaking of, is this channel meant to be "family friendly" or adults-only?

Michael Frank

stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/73265031/…

Steve Gibson literally spoke about this a couple months ago!

@qasdfdsaq Work friendly.

Bob

@MichaelFrank In other words, refrain from posting NSFW images and otherwise we mostly won't care.

Some overzealous flaggers who'll flag just about any profanity, though.

qasdfdsaq

9:04 PM

Well in that case, "cool for the summer" supposedly means sexual experimentation with same-sex friends during the summer holidays...

Yes, that is what the kids call it these days.

Michael Frank

@qasdfdsaq I didn't expect that... but I can't say I'm not suprised.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq As I said -- just about every other pop song.

allquixotic

yeah, oneboxing NSFW stuff is generally frowned upon, but other than that..

What's oneboxing?

!!no

9:07 PM

^

@qasdfdsaq Where a message is rendered as anything other than text.

qasdfdsaq

Ah. Thanks.

Lilienthal

Yeah I just looked up the lyrics.

Hah.

Genius link

qasdfdsaq

@Lilienthal: Don't you feel your life is so much more enriched now?

Bob

9:08 PM

@qasdfdsaq I've seen kids dancing (on stage) to rather questionable lyrics at street fairs.

Not sure if anyone else noticed.

Example: Give Me Everything (Pitbull song)

Lilienthal

@qasdfdsaq I sure do. I mean I used to wonder which seat I should take and how I should give people my number as well.

qasdfdsaq

Do you mean "Pitbull - Give Me Everything"? (There isn't a song called "Tonight")

Lilienthal

Pop songs truly have the answer to everything.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq yea. I no good with names

qasdfdsaq

Yeah especially the inspirational ones telling us Yesterday was Thursday, tomorrow it is Saturday!

Or do you mean " Enrique Iglesias - Tonight"

Hint: The lyrics for that one go "Tonight I'm f***** you"

DavidPostill

9:10 PM

He he. I was just about to answer a question and realised I already answered the duplicate over a year ago ;)

Bob

@qasdfdsaq That's probably close enough.

qasdfdsaq

To be fair those are unusually bad examples. Not all pop music is like that.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq No true Scotsman? :P

qasdfdsaq

>_>

Lilienthal

0

Q: Remapping keyboard keys for specific applications

I want to be able to remap keys for specific applications so that those keys can execute macros. I don't want the remap to be global. What are the best programs for this?

Foiled again.

Michael Frank

9:12 PM

Why do we not have a Migrate to Ask Different option?

qasdfdsaq

Then again there are also worse examples... "Rack city b*** rack rack city b****"

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank Because SU is configured to allow 5 migation options and the most common targets were chosen.

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill That makes sense! Thanks.

DavidPostill

0

Q: Suggest another stack exchange site while closing

While reviewing close votes some times there are some questions like this which could belong to another stackexchange site like http://gaming.stackexchange.com/ Can there be a feature to allow such questions to be migrated to sites that are not in the migrate to list ?

feature-request

@MichaelFrank "Each site can have up to 5 migration targets, 1 of which must be that site's own meta. All of Super User's migration targets are currently in use. Gaming.SE used to be an option, but we found that Android.SE was getting more migrations (manually made by moderators) than Gaming was even with Gaming as a default option, so Android was added as a default and Gaming was taken out."

qasdfdsaq

Interesting. Is that still valid today? I don't recall ever seeing a single Android question on SU

DavidPostill

9:18 PM

@qasdfdsaq That's because they all get migrated ;)

qasdfdsaq

Well, I see a lot of spam and crappy questions before they get flagged or deleted so I'd presume I'd have come across at least one Android question before it gets migrated...

DavidPostill

Apart from the 1,069 still there. superuser.com/questions/tagged/android

qasdfdsaq

Oh well, guess I just wasn't paying attention

DavidPostill

Questions about electronic devices, media players, cell phones or smart phones are off-topic (except when they interface with a computer)

qasdfdsaq

What about Android devices that are marketed as a "pocket computer"?

Lilienthal

9:21 PM

> an electronic machine that can store and work with large amounts of information

(God chat markup hates me)

DavidPostill

Don't go there. We have meta discussions already about whether a smart phone running android is a computer or not.

Lilienthal

How is it even a discussion though? It's obviously one! :)

qasdfdsaq

I guess those dual-mode Android + Windows desktop tablets confuse things even more

DavidPostill

I said don't go there ;)

-4

Q: Is a modern phone not a computer?

Re the FAQ: If you have a question about... computer hardware computer software and it is not about... electronic devices, media players, cell phones or smart phones, except insofar as they interface with your computer ...then you’re in the right place to ask your question...

discussion faq-update-request

Lilienthal

Also

How is that entire problem not resolved by replacing "computer" with "desktop computer"?

qasdfdsaq

9:23 PM

x86 elitists!

Lilienthal

Hah

DavidPostill

"The distinction is there for a good reason.

Yes your fancy phone has CPU right? So you'd expect the Linux kernels for ARM would probably also be the same right? Well they aren't, which causes all sorts of unexpected differences between phones running the same version of Android, because beneath that nice GUI things aren't the same at all.

Furthermore, those things are hidden behind proprietary code that's different between ARM fabs, chipsets and generation. Yes it has a CPU and memory, but it also comes with GPS, a quadband for the phone signal and several other components that we may or…

@Lilienthal You want to make laptops off-topic? ;)

qasdfdsaq

My laptop has a number of ARM chips, a quad-band 3G modem, GPS, speakers, microphone, camera, battery, SIM card slot, and so forth...

DavidPostill

"the only right answer is gadgets should get their own SE-site to which the only other right answer is the gadgets SE-site failed, hard. So there you have it, end up discussion"

qasdfdsaq

Even merely the mention of ARM makes it clear this is all architecture-discrimination plain and simple.

Lilienthal

9:27 PM

@DavidPostill Of course, they are the devil's invention! Me and my compatriots at the Neo-Luddite Computer's Liberation Front for the Ethical Treatment of Non-Mobile Systems are strongly opposed to CPU Equality.

DavidPostill

129

A: Please vote on proposed changes to our policy on tablet computers

Allow appropriate tablet questions Vote for this option if you believe we should allow tablet questions, but shouldn't actively encourage iOS or Android questions. We would update our FAQ to mention all the relevant sister-sites: Unix, Ubuntu, Apple and Android as great places to ask questions a...

qasdfdsaq

Is there a SE dedicated to Mac?

DavidPostill

The people voted for by a very large margin.

Michael Frank

@qasdfdsaq Ask Different is

Lilienthal

Tempted to say "[ ] Superuser [ ] Tablet / pick one" despite not even being part of this community. :)

DavidPostill

9:29 PM

@qasdfdsaq @MichaelFrank said "Why do we not have a Migrate to Ask Different option?"

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill To be fair, it doesn't define what the SE does. :P

DavidPostill

apple.stackexchange.com/tour

Ask Different is a question and answer site for Apple enthusiasts and power users.

allquixotic

funny thing is, although I'm very happy with the operation and performance of my iPhone 6S+, I don't consumer myself an Apple enthusiast or power user :P

Michael Frank

What I meant, is that "Ask Different" doesn't give much of a clue as to what SE those words apply to.

DavidPostill

22

Q: Please change name of site from "Apple" to "Ask Different"

The new "mobile" template, among other things, replaces the site logo with the name of the site in text. However, the Stack Exchange engine still thinks that this site is called "Apple", which results in users visiting Ask Different on their iPhones being served a page that looks nothing like Ask...

bug status-completed design mobile

qasdfdsaq

9:34 PM

Thanks. I've added it to my blocklist.

/j

Lilienthal

Going to check if the top-voted Q&A on there is:
Q: What is wrong with my X?
A: Nothing, it just works.™

DavidPostill

In addition to being too short, just calling our site "Apple" would probably result in some trademark issues.

qasdfdsaq

"Windows on ARM questions would not be permitted, but Windows 8 on x86-64 hardware would be allowed"

SEE! x86 elitists!

And not even just x86 elitists, x86-64 elitists!!

Lilienthal

I was disappointed.

allquixotic

x86-64 elitism is the best architecture elitism there is :P

qasdfdsaq

9:36 PM

Itanium > ALL

Bob

@DavidPostill funny you should mention that (see Android, Windows Phone stack exchanges)

Lilienthal

You people have obviously never heard of SPARC which I, incidentally, liked before it was cool.

qasdfdsaq

SPARC was ever cool?

DavidPostill

They don't sue like Apple Corps did

Apple Corps v Apple Computer

Between 1978 and 2006 there were a number of legal disputes between Apple Corps (owned by The Beatles) and the computer manufacturer Apple Computer (now Apple Inc.) over competing trademark rights. The High Court of Justice handed down a judgment on 8 May 2006 in favour of Apple Computer, but the companies did not announce a final settlement until 5 February 2007. == History of trademark disputesEdit == === 1978–1981Edit === In 1978, Apple Corps, the Beatles-founded holding company and owner of their record label, Apple Records, filed a lawsuit against Apple Computer for trademark infri...

qasdfdsaq

Last I heard modern SPARC chips run excessively hot

No, wait, that was IBM POWER

Lilienthal

9:39 PM

It's the ultimate hipster architecture or so I've been told. I'm recalling tremendously boring people at Uni trying to outperform the fools compiling *nix from source by doing the same on SPARC instead.

DavidPostill

And Apple Inc en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq I wonder what kind of cooling solution IBM's z/Architecture chips need. The latest gen is several (8+, IIRC) cores on a package, with multi-way SMT per core, and up to 5.5 GHz.

Lilienthal

@DavidPostill "Error: Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon.
Please try again in a few minutes." I think you broke Wikipedia.

allquixotic

they use a fab process that's generally keeping up with the previous gen of Intel's premium fab (the one that makes the best desktop CPUs)

DragonLord

@Lilienthal No repro.

qasdfdsaq

9:42 PM

Dunno about the Z, have a rough idea of the POWER8's though.

allquixotic

hoo, there appear to be multiple issues with "the interwebz" right now

Michael Frank

@DragonLord They did say 'temporary'. ;)

allquixotic

enjin.com is down

DragonLord

I've seen WMF errors like this before, though.

DavidPostill

LOL. Works fine for me ;)

qasdfdsaq

9:42 PM

Anyone remember the ol' Silicon Graphics workstations that were so popular in the early 90's?

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq @JourneymanGeek has one!

Michael Frank

@allquixotic That's what I was thinking!

Some ugly purple thing, right?

allquixotic

Blue

and yes, it's enormous

DragonLord

Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation error

The common "Wikimedia Foundation error" message (WFEM) is sometimes called a "server error" but might be caused by a recent edit which a user made to the current page being displayed. The message is an indication that the webpage being processed for display could not be completely formatted within the time allotted, typically 60 seconds. It rarely indicates that there is a fatal problem with an actual file server at the Wikimedia Foundation, which has been preparing the webpage. === Template limits cause WFE error === During 2009 into 2012, some very slow templates, when used many times per page...

qasdfdsaq

Pah. I used to play a wireframe flight simulator game on those

Who cares about the box, the monitors were HUGE for the day.

allquixotic

9:45 PM

hmm, Incapsula, Enjin's CDN, appears to be "fully operational"

which is odd because last time Enjin's own servers were down, you would get an Incapsula error page

now I'm just getting a timeout

qasdfdsaq

Have you tried... turning it off and back on again? ducks

allquixotic

Yes. I closed the tab and reopened it. That reboots the server, right? </NaiveUser>