Root Access

2:02 PM

man, how have I not heard of CryptoLocker until today O_O

this is what the NSA should be doing with their exorbitant resources: find the people behind CryptoLocker, and send a drone over to say "hello"

so they can take their $28 million in bitcoin to their firey grave

Bob

@allquixotic WHAT

allquixotic

if they do it discreetly enough, the local news will just report 'gas line rupture sets local house on fire, causes 2-alarm fire'

Bob

I... how did you miss CL?

O_O

allquixotic

@Bob no clue.

I heard of Heartbleed on day zero

Bob

CL was massive news

allquixotic

2:05 PM

Heartbleed was massive...er

Bob

hit mainstream media almost as quickly as HB did

HackToHell

> 41% of UK respondents who were Cryptolocker victims claimed to have agreed to pay the ransom

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: there's a reasonable chance it might ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek who might what now?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: apple did buy it ;p

Bob

2:13 PM

oh that

Journeyman Geek

and I'm rather doubtful there will be an "iphone with beats"

allquixotic

@Bob rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7258.txt

!!yes

ChatBot John Cavil

sammyg

is it a bad idea to install a keylogger extension for firefox for your own needs?

how well does this work? are they detected, removed by AV?

Journeyman Geek

possibly

sammyg

2:16 PM

@JourneymanGeek what do you do in situations where you have typed a long report of some kind or something else that's important, and then you click one link and it's all gone?

type it again? haha lol

hate it, but i have done it

smart websites will use js and warn you about leaving the page, so you get a second chance to stay on that page, and not loose your text input, but not all websites are like that

Journeyman Geek

@sammyg: I save a lot ;p

and use a text editor to do it

or something like google docs

sammyg

right... and you have to mentally train yourself to not rely on the website you're at... and of course, save a lot

which is why i love sites like superuser

Journeyman Geek

lol

sammyg

Journeyman Geek

SU does autosave to an extent too

sammyg

2:22 PM

i want to kiss and lick this dialog box

:p

Journeyman Geek

but (and I have a slight bias here), the SE folks have a lot of pretty good ideas about UI

and some sucky ones ;p

(cough review audits cough)

sammyg

hey check this out

hahaha

you gotta love this

jokerdino

@allquixotic Yeah sure. Is it free?

allquixotic

@jokerdino yes :D

jokerdino

:D

allquixotic

2:31 PM

there are ways to improve and vary your build by earning in-game currency (by playing lots), and there are ways to buy into cosmetic changes to your character, but there's no way to "pay to win"

so basically if you want to change your build you have to pay in-game currency (affects gameplay, earned by playing); if you want to change how you look, for SOME stuff you can buy it with in-game currency, other stuff, only real money

it's a fair system imo

jokerdino

What type of game is it? Strategy / RPG / FPS?

allquixotic

@jokerdino MOBA

it's an innovative MOBA with significantly different mechanics that results in a wider variety of play styles

jokerdino

Shouldn't hurt to learn the game.

:)

allquixotic

instead of everyone just being a ganker, there are ways to succeed by doing other stuff

you pick your hero (out of a limited set of 10 heroes, which are on "rotation" and change every week; or you can buy into a hero with in-game currency or real money; unlocks are permanent)...

jokerdino

Final question. How big is the game?

allquixotic

2:35 PM

then you pick your archetype

@jokerdino the download is just under 1 GB, I believe

jokerdino

Torrentz or direct download?

allquixotic

@jokerdino no torrent. direct download from them.

you get the launcher (which is tiny) and it downloads the game

you login using an EA Origin account

jokerdino

I forgot my username lol

I'll get back to you in a short while

allquixotic

I can't play now anyway, I'm at work

jokerdino

Ah good. :P

allquixotic

2:39 PM

download it overnight or so :P

jokerdino

Yep

sammyg

what's the default video format that iphones produce? say it ain't .mov files?

jokerdino

Probably a quicktime type

sammyg

omg

i wish quicktime would just go an die

Journeyman Geek

or h264

allquixotic

2:46 PM

@sammyg h264, but not sure what container format they use

sammyg

who uses quicktime in this time and age?

Journeyman Geek

prolly mp4

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek nope, they use H264 in a MOV QTFF container. just googled it

jokerdino

@allquixotic I dont know how big the game is, but it is already 30% done downloading.

allquixotic

at least that was true as of 2011 iphones... maybe the new ones have an actual option? ..... nah; Apple and "options" are diametrically opposed

sammyg

2:49 PM

"H.264 video up to 1080p, 60 frames per second, High Profile level 4.2 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats"

allquixotic

"we should make it mov only so that people are forced to download quicktime! and since quicktime on PC sucks, it'll make everyone buy a mac!"

sammyg

"MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats"

allquixotic

oh ok, so they did add some additional format support... with newer phones

sammyg

iphone 5s: apple.com/iphone-5s/specs

allquixotic

is that encode or decode, tho?

sammyg

2:50 PM

they don't say

allquixotic

that's playback

sammyg

they probably expect you to buy and find out for yourself

that's apple :)

you know, buy first, ask questions later

Ash

I think its not prompt , so what is it then ?

I heared someone saying something about a really old laptop they possess.So here is specification of my old laptop.It runs from a 4gb usb drive (no hdd)

comes with Qualcomm Atheros AR2413/AR2414 Wireless Network Adapter

runs on Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor

this is the machine that runs dillo @allquixotic

sammyg

@Ash full block?

or just block?

Oliver Salzburg

3:05 PM

Caret navigation

In computing, caret navigation is a kind of keyboard navigation where a caret (also known as "text cursor", "text insertion cursor", or "text selection cursor") is used to navigate within a text document. It is a fundamental feature for applications that deal with text, for example text editors (the most famous examples: Microsoft Word, Emacs and Vim), word processors and desktop publishing programs. This kind of navigation is also supported by some web browsers, such as Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer, where it is referred to as "caret browsing". This can be contrasted with the al...

HackToHell

wow gridwatch.templar.co.uk

@Ash What's that app

Holy crap this page makes FF with ABP use 1.6 gigs more :O

via blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2014/05/14/…

Tempted to make a recursive iframe page and see if ff crashes :P

sammyg

@OliverSalzburg i think he is referring to the character/glyph itself, while it may be used as caret navigation character, that doesn't explain what character or glyph that is... unless caret navigation has special glyphs

@Ash it is prompt

i mean $ is prompt character, but it's also a dollar character (representing prompt)

the rectangle looking thingy [] is caret character, represented by... well, whatever glyph or character that is, let's just call it rectangle

HackToHell

3:29 PM

Interesting Recursive iframe does not crash ff

FF simple does not load it

sammyg

these might not have any special names, just some kind of graphical indicator

this is how it looks like in cmd on windows

@Ash you can change the size of the cursor (a.k.a. caret) to resemble the one you see on linux

and probably also change it to look like your common cursor in text editors, the vertical bar |

Canadian Luke

if (self.location == "North America") {echo "Morning all!;} else {echo "Afternoon all!;}

HackToHell

Oh whee ff gets killed :P

OOM killer kicks in after 3.5 gigs

Want the page anyone :P

Interesting, opening the page from Chrome in my phone doesn't trigger Linux OOM killer and Chrome seems to be stoping the rendering, while FF sucks up all the RAM and crashes

barlop

3:54 PM

@Bob FYI if you're interested. You remember the modem that gave me ipconfig showing IP=____ default gateway=____ and they were the same external address. tracert showed a 192 address. route print showed the ext address. I dumped that modem and tried a modem-router, put it in bridge mode. It gave me ipconfig showing external IP=____ gateway=0.0.0.0 tracert showing no private address. route print showed.. don'trecall. Dunno if you're curious but you might wanna know!

s/dontrecall/some text that I don't recall. (not a domain). ah, was On-Link for gateway

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke you forgot Australia

Canadian Luke

@allquixotic Australia should be sleeping right now, since it's tomorrow there :P

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke Bob doesn't sleep until 6 AM

foxes are nocturnal

Ash

4:10 PM

@sammyg thanks that makes it clear.I wanted to change my caret to a vertical bar.

@HackToHell conky

Canadian Luke

5:12 PM

Great comment --> unix.stackexchange.com/questions/129231/…

amazon.com/Deglon-Meeting-Knife-Stainless-Knives/…

Bloody commentors... Must be from reddit!

clientsfromhell.net/post/16366255506/…

Boris_yo

5:33 PM

Not true! They did not respect it in version 29!

Firefox did not even ask.

Canadian Luke

I'm on FF26 still... I should probably upgrade...

Mokubai

@allquixotic downloading it might be tricky. it'd probably be faster to get you to download it, put it on a memory stick/dvd, and then mail it to me. I suspect the aggregate bandwidth would be roughly equivalent.

@CanadianLuke If you like the look of Chrome then you'll love FF29!

allquixotic

@Mokubai is your ISP really that bad?

Canadian Luke

I got FF29 on my <font size=-5>MacBook Pro</font></shame>

Mokubai

@allquixotic In the evenings I might as well be on fecking dial-up

allquixotic

5:40 PM

@Mokubai -_-

Boris_yo

@CanadianLuke Security concerns?

Mokubai

@allquixotic Still, gives me a reason to use all the DVDs we've bought over the years... not much bandwidth for streaming...

Hennes

The tabs in FF29 have become ugle.

Canadian Luke

@Boris_yo No, I leave my FF open with my computer for weeks on end... Damn games!

Hennes

And the nice grey bar has become blue. Meh!

Mokubai

5:43 PM

@allquixotic likely to set up the RPi to be a streaming download box so I don't leave the compys on overnight

allquixotic

@Mokubai does it make you feel bad that, at my desk, with my smartphone (with unlimited data cap), with a marginal LTE signal, I get 4 to 8 Mbps downstream? and this is my primary internet connection

Mokubai

@allquixotic -.-

Boris_yo

lol

dat face...

allquixotic

@Mokubai at home during the "trough" usage, I can get 35 Mbps

@Mokubai won't work for Dawngate. the launcher is less than 1MB, but the launcher downloads the game data (and it's Windows)

Mokubai

@allquixotic I used to get 60mbps before we moved :'(

allquixotic

5:45 PM

@Mokubai shit, I'd be moving back

Mokubai

Wouldn't have moved if we had a choice...

allquixotic

@Mokubai so you had a choice, and decided to move anyway? :P

(picking on your double negative that's the opposite of what you mean)

Mokubai

:P

@allquixotic don't know what you're talking about ;)

allquixotic

@Mokubai I can see edit history

Mokubai

@allquixotic :P

If/when we can get cable/fibre here we are ditching these morons so fast.

But it has its upsides being here

allquixotic

5:49 PM

@Mokubai Verizon brazenly, flat-out said that if you don't already have FiOS, you will never get it

make tons of money -> raise prices -> beg for even more money from local and state governments -> only deliver 10% of the rollout that you promised -> declare "we're done!", wash your hands of the matter, continue to raise prices, thank the local government for their donation, and give execs a 5000% raise

they are criminals of the highest degree, hiding in plain sight

Mokubai

@allquixotic Well at least you know where they are then

allquixotic

further evidence of their criminal activity here

they're threatening our regulatory agency -- which has already been completely captured by them anyway -- saying that if they don't let them do what they want, they'll commit corporate suicide

of course, since our regulatory agency is now run by them, the regulators will say "gee, wow, ok, sorry for our ignorance, we'll let you do whatever you want now... phew, that was close! glad we didn't accidentally cause your CEOs to get less of a bonus next year"

Mokubai

Yowza

Canadian Luke

6:43 PM

@Mokubai You OK?

Mokubai

@CanadianLuke Spammers... o.O

Canadian Luke

... OK?

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke he's a SU mod; he's allowed to have moments of incoherent babbling about spammers

Mokubai

I've seen things...

Canadian Luke

7:02 PM

@Mokubai I have 10 K, I've seen things too!

allquixotic

@Mokubai the best ones are where you have hallucinations of being eaten whole by an enormous fish, then an even bigger fish eats the smaller fish, and somehow you're still alive, and the fish is so big that you don't even realize that you're inside a fish and you think it's the entire universe

or maybe i'm the only one who has that problem

Mokubai

@allquixotic o.O

@allquixotic What have you been smoking?

;)

allquixotic

@Mokubai sleep deprivation

i have waking dreams

Mokubai

@allquixotic For real?

Wow.

KronoS

Anybody c programmers?

Canadian Luke

7:13 PM

I'm a FAKE C programmer

Mokubai

I can pretend to be a c programmer so long as you don't need any code, I've got the beard and everything

Wait, I'll go find some flip-flops

MaQleod

7:27 PM

I can read C, all the code I support is written in C, just not so great at the composing part

allquixotic

I did C for an internship for 6 months, but otherwise I prefer to use higher level languages

Mokubai

So between us all we might make a passable c programmer

allquixotic

anyway, "C" doesn't say a whole lot -- there are enormous skill gaps and knowledge gaps between say, a Windows kernel programmer, a Linux application programmer, and a Mac programmer, who all claim to write their code in "C"

knowledge of C isn't so much about the language syntax or standard library, but about the semantics of the calls you're making to the libraries you're using

and library knowledge can be extremely niche; for instance, MFC or ATL programmers are a dying breed

wtf

humans didn't invent saddles; caterpillars did!

no, that's not a pet caterpillar with a tiny cloth saddle on its back. that is actual organic tissue grown by the caterpillar.

it makes me want to say, "giddy up!"

Mokubai

@allquixotic 0.3mbps, I'll see it someday soon...

MaQleod

Quite true. The code I go through is BSD...couldn't tell you nearly as much about windows based C code and the libraries involved there.

Mokubai

7:38 PM

Wow, that is one metric shedload of NOPE!

sammyg

7:56 PM

is 27 inch too big for a 1920 x 1080 hd resolution?

allquixotic

@sammyg no, not at all

also, viewing distance is important

a 1920x1080 on the surface of the moon pointed toward Earth would look pretty damn good if it were several tens of miles across (in both 2d axes)

sammyg

how do you calculate viewing distance?

allquixotic

the smoothness appearance of a pixelated monitor as perceived by the human eye is defined by how many arc-seconds of your field of view each pixel takes up -- which is a function of the display DPI, the display dimensions, and the distance

@sammyg with a measuring stick -- how far are you going to be sitting from the monitor?

consider a few examples:
close up, high DPI: e.g. a 1920x1080 5" smartphone. it's unusable unless it's very close to your face, but the appearance is very smooth, you can't detect an individual pixel with the naked eye.

close up, low DPI: e.g. a 2x2 (just to be ridiculously obvious) display at 3 feet away, you can easily tell the exact dimensions of each pixel, since there are only four of them, they'll just look like four colored squares

far away, low DPI: e.g. a 640x480 screen projector in a classroom viewed from the back of the class. looks kinda crappy, low res stuff, you can see pixelation

far away, high DPI: like in a 4K movie theater.

but you could also build an artificial satellite several hundred miles across and launch it into Low Earth Orbit and make an LCD of almost any desired resolution, and even though people would be viewing it from a distance of several miles, it would look "fine" to the human eye (though you could see pixelation if the DPI were too low)

sammyg

@allquixotic about 60 cm or 23 inches

too close?

allquixotic

@sammyg I have a 32" 1920x1080 at about the same viewing distance

if you keep the resolution fixed -- in this case, 1080p -- and you either increase the dimensions of the monitor or decrease the distance between you and the monitor, pixelation becomes more obvious, but you can make out text easier, so it's easier on the eyes (unless you separately scale text larger than GUI elements, as some tablets do)

on the other hand, if you keep the resolution fixed and decrease the dimensions of the monitor or increase the distance (the effect is the same regardless of which variable you change), pixelation becomes less noticeable, but small GUI elements and text are harder to read

I wouldn't say 27" is "too big" for 1080p at all, considering I have a hard time noticing any pixelation on my 32" 1080p sitting on my desk at home

also, the larger the resolution, the harder it is to find a dimension/distance pair where the human eye can detect pixelation

I think for a 1080p display you'd have to have the display about a mile away and have it be several miles wide, curved, and completely filling up your field of view, before you could start to notice pixelation clearly

basically about the size of an F5 tornado :P

sammyg

8:09 PM

haha, ok, cool

is Dell P2714H any good?

@allquixotic so higher resolution is better too?

allquixotic

@sammyg it's an IPS, so it's probably fine

@sammyg higher resolution is always "better" in terms of image quality -- but it does come at a performance and energy cost

sammyg

i have two 23 inch NEC IPS panels at home, and two 24 inch Samsung panels at work

allquixotic

of course, after a certain resolution, you run into diminishing returns, where higher resolution doesn't really help, because the human eye can only detect features to a certain size, after which there's too much noise to tell the difference

sammyg

i was thinking about maybe 3840 x 2160 or 2560 x 1440, but there are not too many of these on the market, not that i can find anyway, and i want it to be an ips

@allquixotic 32 inch! is that a tv or a monitor? :)

allquixotic

@sammyg yes. (both)

sammyg

8:18 PM

i see, so when there's nothing interesting going on here, you just change the channel? :)

allquixotic

@sammyg more like, I watch Cosmos and baseball on the TV side, and everything else on the PC side

these days, the distinction between a PC monitor and a TV is basically that a TV also has added features such as a digital TV receiver and antenna, in addition to being a perfectly viable PC monitor (though, they're likely to use HDMI rather than DisplayPort)... whereas a "pure" monitor would not have a DTV receiver, but it would use DisplayPort instead of HDMI

sammyg

@allquixotic howdoes that work? picture in picture?

allquixotic

DisplayPort is just outright better (especially with DisplayPort 1.2a coming out) so I'm hoping there will soon be TV-monitors with DP 1.2a

@sammyg no, I pick up the remote, press the "Input" button, and swap between PC and TV

sammyg

ok

@allquixotic yeah, i have noticed that newer monitors usually lack the hdmi port

even in this case, with dell p2714h

but it does have displayport

allquixotic

modern graphics cards support HDMI and DisplayPort both just fine, but DisplayPort is a royalty-free spec and focuses more on PC usage, whereas HDMI is primarily focused on letting you watch HDMI video from your Roku (or similar "set-top box") on your TV

I use HDMI for my gaming/programming/surfing desktop though and it's fine

sammyg

8:24 PM

i will have a look at the p2714h in store, and see what it's like, but i will probably get this one, or the smaller 23 inch version

thanks for your help!

@allquixotic would that be the new Cosmos science series?

Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey

Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey is a 2014 American science documentary television series. The show is a follow-up to the 1980 television series ', which was presented by Carl Sagan on the Public Broadcasting Service and is considered a milestone for scientific documentaries. This series was developed to bring back the foundation of science to network television at the height of other scientific-based television series and films. The show is presented by astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, who was inspired by Sagan as a young college student. Among the executive producers are Seth MacFarlane, ...

allquixotic

@sammyg yup

sammyg

nice! i have not heard of it before, but from what i've read about it so far it's pretty interesting... i wish i could watch that

@allquixotic i now see where your moon analogies come from ;)

space is cool, and so is cosmos... well, they are one and the same aren't they

few of us ever even look up at the sky at night... unless there are pretty shiny stars up there and you have a pretty girl by your side ;)

allquixotic

8:56 PM

@sammyg i never do

sammyg

looks like netflix has added new doctor who series for me :) that will have to do, as a consolation

there is also the discovery mini series "how the universe works" that i have been watching

the planet earth series was amazing

Paul

10:21 PM

@slhck I thought that we considered basic scripting questions as on-topic for SU?

Canadian Luke

@Paul We do. What's the link?

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